it should have come with a hardware test cd you could run.. im guessing it must be old if youre booting into "OS 9" (sad mac only exists there, and im not even sure it even does on new machines since they only boot X).. it sounds to me, that you either A. need a new hard drive, after all, your mac is quite old. or B. something that can be diagnosed with a hardware test..
don't always trust apple support, they've told me before that the data on my drive was irrecoverable, and it would cost me hundreds to use a lab to get it off, i had the drive sent to my home, i swamped it out, and everything copied over fine.. no troubles at all.
its The iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program is a worldwide program covering repair or replacement of the logic board in specific iBook models manufactured between May 2002 and April 2003
any of those models, are insured for 3 years from their purchase date..
My iBook suffered 4 logic board failures, thankfully, its been running well for about 8 months now.. but i did have to take the hard drive once out after apple had sent me a new drive without back up the old (said it was impossible, i said thats "unpossible!")
at any rate.. it's not fun.. but its entirely doable. torx wrench, and a good system to remember where each screw goes (colored dot stickers are very handy here)..
the first time i did it i was a bit nervous and ended up with a few extra screws, but since learning from my mistakes i would feel bery at ease about doing it now..
it depends on the speeds of the drives and the g4, in this case, the g4 is only 500 mhz, altivec enabled itunes will rip an mp3 192 at about 7.5X, deffinately not as fast as a cd-rom can transfer, unless its a really slow drive.
split that between three drives and its going to be maybe 1.5X tops?
the sawtooth macs came out at the same time, steve announced 500's 450's and 400's, the 400's were Yikes, and as you stated, just a g4 put in the blue and white g3 motherboard.
then of course, it came out that motorola couldnt provide enough 500's, so they had too do a spedd bump (in the sense of slowing down), 450 became the top of the line, 400 in the middle, and 350 put into yikes boards.
i ordered my 450 the day they were announced and apple tried to charge me more for it, but enough people complained that i got the original price quoted, plus another 200 off, and some huge g4 posters.
unimportant i know, just thought i'd comment though
haven't ever tried ripping from multiple drives at once, but it should very well be possible, but on your 500 sawtooth, ripping form three drives at once will be pretty slow. maybe 1.5X tops..
but as for burning, you can use toast. you take the copy you have and make two other copies (AFAIK this is not illegal) open each one and set it to a specific drive.
and on this note, i would assume there it is likely feasible to do something similar with an mp3 ripper, iTunes however, will only allow for one copy to be running at a time.
i believe this was the first 10.2.8 that caused this problem, it was pulld and a revised 10.2.8 was put up the next day, i've been running 10.2.8 since then, not one panic.
er.. It's certainly nice. But is it better than Jaguar ? To be honest, not that I notice.
and then you go and list some of the big changes you like between it and jaguar, the updated finder, filevault, journaling (well, on by default). not mentioning expose, FUS, and all the new junk on the inside..
but then at the end. So overall am I happy with what I got for my 114 in my opinion your review is a double negetive. and i dont have no time to read it.
didnt apple purchase the software which later became known as Finacl Cut Pro from macromedia? it's been a while so my mind isn't to clear on it anymore.. more importantly i'm not sure what my point is, just thought it interesting.
going through the left, and connecting, yes you can browse open copy etc etc, but you cannot do a Find File (cmd F) on one of these drives without mounting them on the desktop first... try it, it wont work (the Find File)
i am aware of that, but once you connect to those servers you still cannot search their drives without manually typing in the IP address and mounting the drives..
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in 10.2 when you wen't to your network browser all shared systems showed up and you could mount them on your desktop, do a cmd F and search all the mounted driveso n the network.. very handy when you connect to some big drives amongst other things.
however, in 10.3 network browsing has moved to the finder, which is very handy to just click on the network icon and all shared computers show up.. the problem begins there.. once you connect to these devices there is no way to do a network search. you can add it as a specific place to search, but it doesn't work. you must physically have the drive mounted on the desktop to be able to do a file search..
but in 10.3, while cmd k does bring up the network browser, it no longer provides you a list of shared devices on the network.. so whereas before the names were listed, you must not know the ip address of the computer you're trying to connect to.. which, for some isn't that big of a deal.. but explaining this to users here at work who haven't even mastered keyboard shortcuts is a serious problem..
now the question remains, is this a "feature" of panther? or is it a bug in pather... to me (and others) it seems like a step backwards in usability and makes panther a hard sell in some network situations.
Another problem affecting a group of users (myself included) involves Sawtooth G4's with upgraded video cards.. these shipped with ATI 128's (and 128 Pro's I think). But many users swapped those cards out for nVidia cards (GeForce 2 mx etc) as these cards could do Quartz Extreme and were relatively cheap.. unfortunately, after installing panther on these setups it wont boot anymore.
The work are some work arounds but they all have draw backs. one fix is to remove all but 256 megs of ram from your computer.. things will return to normal then, but you'll be stuck with 256 megs of ram.. or you for some, you can copy over the old drivers from a previous version of os x, unfortunately you lose QE support then. or, the wisest, stick with 10.2 for the time being.. it remains to be seen if apple will take care of this problem.. i hope they do.
i tried doing the 256 megs of ram thing for a couple days, but it was just too slow, so this morning i went back to 10.2
you can always download the package itself without installing it via software update, which probably isn't want you're looking for, but still worth mentioning
i would assume when working out the deal with apple VT became privy so some knowledge about the release of a g5 xserve.. and rather then wait (till whenever that may be, perhaps apple told them not for a while), they opted for the option available today (or 4 to 5 weeks as the case may be for some users)
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yeah, they wanna make money off the music.. eventually.
right now, the itunes music store is a loss leader (or nearly breaking even) to sell iPods and iPod mini's
which ibook is this?
it should have come with a hardware test cd you could run.. im guessing it must be old if youre booting into "OS 9" (sad mac only exists there, and im not even sure it even does on new machines since they only boot X).. it sounds to me, that you either A. need a new hard drive, after all, your mac is quite old. or B. something that can be diagnosed with a hardware test..
don't always trust apple support, they've told me before that the data on my drive was irrecoverable, and it would cost me hundreds to use a lab to get it off, i had the drive sent to my home, i swamped it out, and everything copied over fine.. no troubles at all.
as stated here and in an above post. you can return apple care
its The iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program is a worldwide program covering repair or replacement of the logic board in specific iBook models manufactured between May 2002 and April 2003
any of those models, are insured for 3 years from their purchase date..
isn't this just as insulting to apples own programers who handed all their new code back to the KDE programmers?
it was a win win situation
My iBook suffered 4 logic board failures, thankfully, its been running well for about 8 months now.. but i did have to take the hard drive once out after apple had sent me a new drive without back up the old (said it was impossible, i said thats "unpossible!")
at any rate.. it's not fun.. but its entirely doable. torx wrench, and a good system to remember where each screw goes (colored dot stickers are very handy here)..
the first time i did it i was a bit nervous and ended up with a few extra screws, but since learning from my mistakes i would feel bery at ease about doing it now..
it depends on the speeds of the drives and the g4, in this case, the g4 is only 500 mhz, altivec enabled itunes will rip an mp3 192 at about 7.5X, deffinately not as fast as a cd-rom can transfer, unless its a really slow drive.
split that between three drives and its going to be maybe 1.5X tops?
the sawtooth macs came out at the same time, steve announced 500's 450's and 400's, the 400's were Yikes, and as you stated, just a g4 put in the blue and white g3 motherboard.
then of course, it came out that motorola couldnt provide enough 500's, so they had too do a spedd bump (in the sense of slowing down), 450 became the top of the line, 400 in the middle, and 350 put into yikes boards.
i ordered my 450 the day they were announced and apple tried to charge me more for it, but enough people complained that i got the original price quoted, plus another 200 off, and some huge g4 posters.
unimportant i know, just thought i'd comment though
haven't ever tried ripping from multiple drives at once, but it should very well be possible, but on your 500 sawtooth, ripping form three drives at once will be pretty slow. maybe 1.5X tops..
but as for burning, you can use toast. you take the copy you have and make two other copies (AFAIK this is not illegal) open each one and set it to a specific drive.
and on this note, i would assume there it is likely feasible to do something similar with an mp3 ripper, iTunes however, will only allow for one copy to be running at a time.
it's possible
the rumors have been around for months
i believe this was the first 10.2.8 that caused this problem, it was pulld and a revised 10.2.8 was put up the next day, i've been running 10.2.8 since then, not one panic.
er.. It's certainly nice. But is it better than Jaguar ? To be honest, not that I notice.
and then you go and list some of the big changes you like between it and jaguar, the updated finder, filevault, journaling (well, on by default). not mentioning expose, FUS, and all the new junk on the inside..
but then at the end.
So overall am I happy with what I got for my 114
in my opinion your review is a double negetive. and i dont have no time to read it.
didnt apple purchase the software which later became known as Finacl Cut Pro from macromedia? it's been a while so my mind isn't to clear on it anymore.. more importantly i'm not sure what my point is, just thought it interesting.
going through the left, and connecting, yes you can browse open copy etc etc, but you cannot do a Find File (cmd F) on one of these drives without mounting them on the desktop first... try it, it wont work (the Find File)
i am aware of that, but once you connect to those servers you still cannot search their drives without manually typing in the IP address and mounting the drives..
in 10.2 when you wen't to your network browser all shared systems showed up and you could mount them on your desktop, do a cmd F and search all the mounted driveso n the network.. very handy when you connect to some big drives amongst other things.
however, in 10.3 network browsing has moved to the finder, which is very handy to just click on the network icon and all shared computers show up.. the problem begins there.. once you connect to these devices there is no way to do a network search. you can add it as a specific place to search, but it doesn't work. you must physically have the drive mounted on the desktop to be able to do a file search..
but in 10.3, while cmd k does bring up the network browser, it no longer provides you a list of shared devices on the network.. so whereas before the names were listed, you must not know the ip address of the computer you're trying to connect to.. which, for some isn't that big of a deal.. but explaining this to users here at work who haven't even mastered keyboard shortcuts is a serious problem..
now the question remains, is this a "feature" of panther? or is it a bug in pather... to me (and others) it seems like a step backwards in usability and makes panther a hard sell in some network situations.
Another problem affecting a group of users (myself included) involves Sawtooth G4's with upgraded video cards.. these shipped with ATI 128's (and 128 Pro's I think). But many users swapped those cards out for nVidia cards (GeForce 2 mx etc) as these cards could do Quartz Extreme and were relatively cheap.. unfortunately, after installing panther on these setups it wont boot anymore.
The work are some work arounds but they all have draw backs. one fix is to remove all but 256 megs of ram from your computer.. things will return to normal then, but you'll be stuck with 256 megs of ram.. or you for some, you can copy over the old drivers from a previous version of os x, unfortunately you lose QE support then. or, the wisest, stick with 10.2 for the time being.. it remains to be seen if apple will take care of this problem.. i hope they do.
i tried doing the 256 megs of ram thing for a couple days, but it was just too slow, so this morning i went back to 10.2
mmmm
low end ibook maxed out with ram
1129 x 130,000 = 146,770,000
gobook max:
4500 x 130,000 = 585,000,000
pretty big difference, even if the did get a hefty discount on the gobook's
thats just money, gobook has an 8 hour battery life they claim, but it also wighs as muh as a cinder block..
won't somebody think of the children!!??
today you spent 5 hours, its only 10:47am when you posted this, perhaps sleep depravation of putting in airport cards at 5:47 am is what happened?
"i spent 5 hours installing airport cards and it still takes 20 minutes to transfer a 17 meg file!"
you can always download the package itself without installing it via software update, which probably isn't want you're looking for, but still worth mentioning
by chance, is she still waiting for a 70 meg file to transfer?
you know, one that would take minutes to transfer on your a600?
perhaps this should be included in their benchmarks from now on, along with installing a copy of acrobat (i hear it's upwards of 20 minutes!)
i would assume when working out the deal with apple VT became privy so some knowledge about the release of a g5 xserve..
and rather then wait (till whenever that may be, perhaps apple told them not for a while), they opted for the option available today (or 4 to 5 weeks as the case may be for some users)
this new variant of the Troll.Mac virus actually had me chuckling to myself at work, give it a funny.
go read osnews.com, its full of posts that actually make me laugh out loud in regards to this subject