The problem with the theater experience is that is has been very stagnant for the last 20 years or so. Sure the sound is better with THX and the image is better (HD) but that is pretty much it. This is the main problem with both the music and movie industries. They don't know shit about technology. And they don't invest enough money into it to keep people interested. Hence why Apple is making so much money of music they have nothing to do with.
Sounds very similar to Microsoft to me. When you have a monopoly there is only so much forcing you to make a better product. The movie industry is the exact same. I have no problems with the actual content of the movies. Most movies appeal to some niche of people. There are very few movies very single person that sees it, hates (as scary as that sounds). Home media technology is amazing nowadays. A 50" Plasma and a nice sound system is worth watching a movie at home, especially on BlueRay. Watching the BBC Earth series on blueray for the first time blew my mind.
The movie industry needs to spend more time on stuff like 3D movies. Journey to the Center of the Earth and the U2 concert use this new technology as well as Final Destination 4. These experiences cannot be reproduced at home yet. These experiences cannot be pirated.
The industry is approaching the fight with piracy the wrong way. Copy protection will only ever stall the inevitable. Instead the movie industry needs to try out new approaches like the MMO gaming industry is.
ex:
1) Initial product free; pay for online play.
2) Initial product costs money; online is free.
3) Initial product and online is free; play for new/special content.
Why not sell play once DVD's at the same time the movie hits the theaters? They need to be 1 step ahead of the pirates not 2 steps behind.
The discrepancy is probably because of sell-in and sell-thru numbers. This is what we use in the game industry atleast. The studio get profits from sell-in numbers; units that are in stores. Sell-thru numbers on the other hand are units that have been sold to the consumer. Apple is probably using sell-in numbers to make it look like there is a huge demand and that it is a hit. When they say they want to sell 2 million next year, they are really just saying we want that many units sold to the stores. The numbers will soon level out as most stores will be stocked and will stop ordering more, until they have sold out. Then the increase in sell-in and sell-thru will usually be around the same.
I've seen this in couple of students I went to school with. During my CS degree at UT of Austin the CS department started migrating to Java as their primary language. Java is definitely a easier language to learn on, especially with its GUI environments and libraries. That is the main problem however. A couple of friends I kept up with after college had a really hard time picking up lower level languages.
It's much easier to pick up higher level languages when you know the building blocks from the bottom. I wrote all my code in C/C++ in vim. Not using a GUI gave me a good understanding of how code works. Like managing files and linking object files and libraries; using certain flags to enable compiler options. I think once one is familiar with these concepts a GUI is great to become more efficient and not have to deal with such rudimentary task sometimes. But if you never learn these concepts you are losing out.
C/C++ helped me hang myself in college. It was grueling but worth it. I've picked up most languages I've tried pretty easily. I've coded/scripted in C/C++, C#, Pascal, Haskell, Perl, PHP, ASP, HTML, SQL, VB, Bash, MEL, LUA, UnrealScript. It's better to stick the pain out in college than try to figure out pointers and such when you have a job and there are deadlines to meet and the possibility of getting fired if you keep slipping.
Could it at all be possible that christans did not get affended with the video's to such a degree that enough asked for it to be removed. Enough muslims watched the video critisizing islam and decided to complain about it, so google removed it.
Funny how many poeple out there are bitching about the PS3 and they don't even have one. Be a Sony hater whatever, but don't diss the console before you have even played it. All the retards bitching now will change sides once Sony comes out on top again in a few years. Even though I don't like Sony much I give them alot of credit for what they have done with the PS3. A brand new architecture for the CPU and a brand new media player. The Blue-Ray may be ahead of its time but it won't be in 4-5 years when everyone has one. And at that point people with a PS3 won't need to decide what format to buy or what new player to buy they will buy Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray/HD-DVD players will still be expensive for the next few years, so if your a gamer getting a console is your best bet for the money. Also MS doesn't care enough about its uses. They have already killed the XBox and it had plenty of life left in it. MS is a pusher, they push out new technology and force the consumers to buy it. Atleast when Sony made the PS2 they didn't just throw it out the window. They have spend the last 6 yeas improving it and making it smaller. What did MS do? Just like Vista they pushed another console on the consumer, not caring one bit that 90% of gamers can't afford $500 gaming machines. Sony is still behind the PS2, which I give them alot of credit for. They still sell over 200,000 PS2's a week. Thats more then the Xenon. So before you bash Sony atleast give them credit where credit is deserved, weather you like them or not. And if you are going to compare the systems make sure you realize that if a system comes out a year ahead, it going to be more stable than one that came out yesterday. I'm so tried of this pissant shit from the media about the PS3. Both 360 and PS3 are on par with each other (yes I develop on both systems). They both have strengths and weaknesses. Buy the one you like the games for and stop bitching about the other one. If you really dislike something you will ignore it. If you bitch about something, it means you care enough to spend time thiking about it. And if you hate the PS3 so much then why get so riled up about it. Just don't buy it, and let whoever else wants to but it buy it.
I've been through such a course and I think it really taught me a lot. The class was around 25 or so kids, broken up into teams of 5-6. The professor went out to non-profit organizations and looked for software that needed to be developed. All of the non-profit organizations had a representative come to the class and pitch what they wanted developed. The teams would then place bids on three to four of the projects. The bids included a paragraph or so on information about why the team should get to work on the project. The teams would then have to co-ordinate the rest of the project by themselves and their customer. We had to go through 5 major stages and write up formal documentation for each. The stages included Project Plan, Software Requirements Specification, Software Requirement Design, Verification and Validation Plan, Verification and Validation Results. Some of the projects stretched over a few semesters so this would also give some teams experience in working with existing code and not trying to re-write everything. The best thing about the project was that it was actually used. A few projects included creating educational flash games for kids to be played on museums kiosks. I think I really got a lot out of it. You really learn to work in a team. Most will consist of the same set of people. A few will be really into it and will do most of the work. The rest will slack. We also get to fill out a mid-term and final team evaluation. Here's the link to the site, I thinks its been doing for 5 or 6 years now.
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/s2s/
One thing alot of people don't realize is that there is a reason PS2 consoles still sell. It's because it's around 1/5 the size of an original PS2. The new ones are amazingly small. Both Nindendo and Sony improved on thier technology. They don't just throw it away like MS. The DS market is only booming because of the DS Lite. And in another coulple of years there will be another version of the DS. Nintendo is still improving on thier original gameboy. In 5 years the PS3 will be as small as the current PS2 and will still be selling well. The Xenon will still be the same xenon. And it will be thrown out the door just like the Xbox was when MS pushes the next generation of technology onto the market to early.
it's really fun and addictive for about 2-3 months. Then the glory really just dies. The main problem with how the game is setup that as stated above you can only get xp by finishing a quest completely. and all of the early quests are geared for either full grps or lone fighters. try soloing a dungeon as a mage and you'll pretty much end up dead. This then leads to masses of people only playing the dungeons that grant the most XP. but ofcourse playing a dungeon to many time will lead to no xp. overall the graphics and sound is pretty good though. I loved my 3 months i played hard-core but i def. will not pay to play it.
heh bullshit. I work for ea and they have absolutely no idea how to develop software. there is so much cooperate bullshit going on that nothing ever gets done right. they have 300 people working on godfather ! and they still can't ship the dam thing! i'm amazed they can even ship games. if it wasn't for money out the ass and repetitive sports titles they would have died long long ago. the end is coming soon for this project and i guarantee that the whole team will be working 60-80+ hours to get this game out the door.
One interesting thing to note is the pricing of the new HD/Ble DVD's. I imagine they will be atleast $10-$15 more expensive then the current DVDs on sale. Why the hell would any of the movie studios sell DVD and HD/BLu rays for the same price when one offers more than the other. And why would they drop the price of DVD's when it has contorl over the current market. The amuzing thing about this is that HD/Blu keep saying that it will cost the exact same to create the new DVD's. Oh but wait that profit will only go to the movie industry and the consumer wouldn't see a dime. So basically now the movie industry makes $10-$15 more per disc. Seriously with bullshit like that, who can they even wonder y people pirate stuff in the first place. The new rips will just be a 4.5 gig xvid that will fit on a single layer dvd. Fuk both blu-ray and HD. Im sticking to my $0.25 DVDs for another 5 years easy.
"I don't know who we've let down. There isn't a game on 360 that you can't play without a hard drive, so I think that's a good thing for consumers.... So that seems like a win for developers - I'm not sure who's supposed to be disappointed."
Ok seriously want to know who is disappointed about not having an HD included? EVERYONE !@!#@! Its a total lose situation for developers. No developer in thier right mind will create games that need an HD because they don't want to be prejudice against users that don't have one. There are not many games that a user is willing to pump out another $100 for a hd. Now this means that no developer can take advantage of having an internal HD like they could in the original xbox. How is this a win for developers again? If you talk to almost any developer they will tell you the same thing, no hd really suks. Oh, and there is a 360 game you can't play without a HD final fantasy !!@
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There really will only be one major factor in xbox's demise. The Blu-Ray. If MS had waited to get HD-DVD into thier box they might have had a fighting chance, without it they are going to go spiraling down hill. There are two major aspects to this speed, streaming is very slow on current-gen DVD's, streaming on te Blu-Ray is 4x-5x faster. For games like GTA that steam with is invaluable. The second is size. With current get dual layer you only get 7 gigs (2 gigs for MS use only). 7 gigs is not much for a "next-gen" game. At the studio I work at this is a huge concern, since we are streaming the world we only have available to us 4.5 gigs since swaping isn't possible, because it is too slow. Sharders are not the next-gen thing, with mulitple passes being taken for everything, with huge textures. The first couple of years will not make much of a diffrence. But when the majority of developers get used to using the new power, the xbox will lag behind and be lost. The whole "we will go HD later" is a joke as well. No publisher in thier right mind will rls on HD when they know the majority of xbox users have current gen DVD's. Thank fully Sony will not have this problem. Now if Sony would only decide to charge more and make a harddrive mandatory, ms would really be crying. And ofcource there will be a revolution sitting next to eveyones ps3.
I've had a few sharp products over the years, and think they are very good at innovating new products, but the overall quality of thier products is very low. I bought a Sharp laptop a year ago and have had to return it 4 times already to get it fixed becaues of it breaking down on me. I doubt this new laptop will last much longer, and its probably just as easy to somehow mess up the 3D display.
I took a compliers class a year or so ago. We had to make a complier in c using lex/yacc for pascal. We also put in some optimization in it. But or profressor who has been doing this for around 10 years or so alwasy said to never trust a complier for optimizing your code. most don't do a very good job of it. and each complier optimizes stuff diffrently. some even broke code. His comparisons were using gcc, ibm complier, and a couple others, as well as optimizing in the code itself. The optimized code ran better in 90% of the runs.
OH please, don't whine about not knowing how to use a baddass and very powerful editor. juut because you are a lazy ass and don't want to figure out how to quit. and if it took you that lonf to figure it out you don't seem to bright. it would take less than a minute to google vim for cmd and figure it out. And pls don't compare vim to pico, an absolute piece of shit.
Screw FireFox and IE.
Both will lose out in the end to Google's Browser.
Everyone trusts google more than ms and when there is a link for a google browser on google's home page it will take over the market.
A little to late bill.
A couple of million more unsecured computers for hackers to break into and use. A couple million more computers that will be full of viruses and adware. Did MS make videos on how to procect from viruses and ad ware? probably not... And for the three programs only.. what a joke. Obviously this is just another scam so that once a user has become more familiar with computing they have to go and buy another MS procuct so they can have a real functional computer. woohoo way to go MS, leech of the poor as well. They probably even have an if statement that make sure all programs that are installed are MS products!
The funny thing here is that by trying to have more control over customers they are just creating more reason for people to go to the internet to download thier movies. Who the hell is going to want to buy a DVD player than can become unusable because someone on the other side of the world cracked the key that was being currently used? If they really wanted to stop piracy all they would have to do is sell DVD's at $2! Not many people would even consider piracy anymore because of how cheap it was! All they have to do is make it cheaper to buy DVDs than to pirate them. But ofcouse then they wouldn't be making trillions ever year it would only be billions. The other thing Hollywood never seems to realize is that if your eyes can see it, it can be copied! Guess its time to ban all video recording devices as well. And might as well ban PC's too while they are at it. mahahhahahahahah
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Heh. because alot of the time its the guy in the booth making the copy, or the usher that is getting paid shit and doesn't give a fuck..
The problem with the theater experience is that is has been very stagnant for the last 20 years or so. Sure the sound is better with THX and the image is better (HD) but that is pretty much it. This is the main problem with both the music and movie industries. They don't know shit about technology. And they don't invest enough money into it to keep people interested. Hence why Apple is making so much money of music they have nothing to do with.
Sounds very similar to Microsoft to me. When you have a monopoly there is only so much forcing you to make a better product. The movie industry is the exact same. I have no problems with the actual content of the movies. Most movies appeal to some niche of people. There are very few movies very single person that sees it, hates (as scary as that sounds). Home media technology is amazing nowadays. A 50" Plasma and a nice sound system is worth watching a movie at home, especially on BlueRay. Watching the BBC Earth series on blueray for the first time blew my mind.
The movie industry needs to spend more time on stuff like 3D movies. Journey to the Center of the Earth and the U2 concert use this new technology as well as Final Destination 4. These experiences cannot be reproduced at home yet. These experiences cannot be pirated.
The industry is approaching the fight with piracy the wrong way. Copy protection will only ever stall the inevitable. Instead the movie industry needs to try out new approaches like the MMO gaming industry is.
ex:
1) Initial product free; pay for online play.
2) Initial product costs money; online is free.
3) Initial product and online is free; play for new/special content.
Why not sell play once DVD's at the same time the movie hits the theaters? They need to be 1 step ahead of the pirates not 2 steps behind.
The discrepancy is probably because of sell-in and sell-thru numbers. This is what we use in the game industry atleast. The studio get profits from sell-in numbers; units that are in stores. Sell-thru numbers on the other hand are units that have been sold to the consumer. Apple is probably using sell-in numbers to make it look like there is a huge demand and that it is a hit. When they say they want to sell 2 million next year, they are really just saying we want that many units sold to the stores. The numbers will soon level out as most stores will be stocked and will stop ordering more, until they have sold out. Then the increase in sell-in and sell-thru will usually be around the same.
I've seen this in couple of students I went to school with. During my CS degree at UT of Austin the CS department started migrating to Java as their primary language. Java is definitely a easier language to learn on, especially with its GUI environments and libraries. That is the main problem however. A couple of friends I kept up with after college had a really hard time picking up lower level languages.
It's much easier to pick up higher level languages when you know the building blocks from the bottom. I wrote all my code in C/C++ in vim. Not using a GUI gave me a good understanding of how code works. Like managing files and linking object files and libraries; using certain flags to enable compiler options. I think once one is familiar with these concepts a GUI is great to become more efficient and not have to deal with such rudimentary task sometimes. But if you never learn these concepts you are losing out.
C/C++ helped me hang myself in college. It was grueling but worth it. I've picked up most languages I've tried pretty easily. I've coded/scripted in C/C++, C#, Pascal, Haskell, Perl, PHP, ASP, HTML, SQL, VB, Bash, MEL, LUA, UnrealScript. It's better to stick the pain out in college than try to figure out pointers and such when you have a job and there are deadlines to meet and the possibility of getting fired if you keep slipping.
Could it at all be possible that christans did not get affended with the video's to such a degree that enough asked for it to be removed. Enough muslims watched the video critisizing islam and decided to complain about it, so google removed it.
Funny how many poeple out there are bitching about the PS3 and they don't even have one. Be a Sony hater whatever, but don't diss the console before you have even played it. All the retards bitching now will change sides once Sony comes out on top again in a few years. Even though I don't like Sony much I give them alot of credit for what they have done with the PS3. A brand new architecture for the CPU and a brand new media player. The Blue-Ray may be ahead of its time but it won't be in 4-5 years when everyone has one. And at that point people with a PS3 won't need to decide what format to buy or what new player to buy they will buy Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray/HD-DVD players will still be expensive for the next few years, so if your a gamer getting a console is your best bet for the money. Also MS doesn't care enough about its uses. They have already killed the XBox and it had plenty of life left in it. MS is a pusher, they push out new technology and force the consumers to buy it. Atleast when Sony made the PS2 they didn't just throw it out the window. They have spend the last 6 yeas improving it and making it smaller. What did MS do? Just like Vista they pushed another console on the consumer, not caring one bit that 90% of gamers can't afford $500 gaming machines. Sony is still behind the PS2, which I give them alot of credit for. They still sell over 200,000 PS2's a week. Thats more then the Xenon. So before you bash Sony atleast give them credit where credit is deserved, weather you like them or not. And if you are going to compare the systems make sure you realize that if a system comes out a year ahead, it going to be more stable than one that came out yesterday. I'm so tried of this pissant shit from the media about the PS3. Both 360 and PS3 are on par with each other (yes I develop on both systems). They both have strengths and weaknesses. Buy the one you like the games for and stop bitching about the other one. If you really dislike something you will ignore it. If you bitch about something, it means you care enough to spend time thiking about it. And if you hate the PS3 so much then why get so riled up about it. Just don't buy it, and let whoever else wants to but it buy it.
I've been through such a course and I think it really taught me a lot. The class was around 25 or so kids, broken up into teams of 5-6. The professor went out to non-profit organizations and looked for software that needed to be developed. All of the non-profit organizations had a representative come to the class and pitch what they wanted developed. The teams would then place bids on three to four of the projects. The bids included a paragraph or so on information about why the team should get to work on the project. The teams would then have to co-ordinate the rest of the project by themselves and their customer. We had to go through 5 major stages and write up formal documentation for each. The stages included Project Plan, Software Requirements Specification, Software Requirement Design, Verification and Validation Plan, Verification and Validation Results. Some of the projects stretched over a few semesters so this would also give some teams experience in working with existing code and not trying to re-write everything. The best thing about the project was that it was actually used. A few projects included creating educational flash games for kids to be played on museums kiosks. I think I really got a lot out of it. You really learn to work in a team. Most will consist of the same set of people. A few will be really into it and will do most of the work. The rest will slack. We also get to fill out a mid-term and final team evaluation. Here's the link to the site, I thinks its been doing for 5 or 6 years now. http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/s2s/
One thing alot of people don't realize is that there is a reason PS2 consoles still sell. It's because it's around 1/5 the size of an original PS2. The new ones are amazingly small. Both Nindendo and Sony improved on thier technology. They don't just throw it away like MS. The DS market is only booming because of the DS Lite. And in another coulple of years there will be another version of the DS. Nintendo is still improving on thier original gameboy. In 5 years the PS3 will be as small as the current PS2 and will still be selling well. The Xenon will still be the same xenon. And it will be thrown out the door just like the Xbox was when MS pushes the next generation of technology onto the market to early.
it's really fun and addictive for about 2-3 months. Then the glory really just dies. The main problem with how the game is setup that as stated above you can only get xp by finishing a quest completely. and all of the early quests are geared for either full grps or lone fighters. try soloing a dungeon as a mage and you'll pretty much end up dead. This then leads to masses of people only playing the dungeons that grant the most XP. but ofcourse playing a dungeon to many time will lead to no xp. overall the graphics and sound is pretty good though. I loved my 3 months i played hard-core but i def. will not pay to play it.
heh bullshit. I work for ea and they have absolutely no idea how to develop software. there is so much cooperate bullshit going on that nothing ever gets done right. they have 300 people working on godfather ! and they still can't ship the dam thing! i'm amazed they can even ship games. if it wasn't for money out the ass and repetitive sports titles they would have died long long ago. the end is coming soon for this project and i guarantee that the whole team will be working 60-80+ hours to get this game out the door.
One interesting thing to note is the pricing of the new HD/Ble DVD's. I imagine they will be atleast $10-$15 more expensive then the current DVDs on sale. Why the hell would any of the movie studios sell DVD and HD/BLu rays for the same price when one offers more than the other. And why would they drop the price of DVD's when it has contorl over the current market. The amuzing thing about this is that HD/Blu keep saying that it will cost the exact same to create the new DVD's. Oh but wait that profit will only go to the movie industry and the consumer wouldn't see a dime. So basically now the movie industry makes $10-$15 more per disc. Seriously with bullshit like that, who can they even wonder y people pirate stuff in the first place. The new rips will just be a 4.5 gig xvid that will fit on a single layer dvd. Fuk both blu-ray and HD. Im sticking to my $0.25 DVDs for another 5 years easy.
"I don't know who we've let down. There isn't a game on 360 that you can't play without a hard drive, so I think that's a good thing for consumers. ... So that seems like a win for developers - I'm not sure who's supposed to be disappointed."
Ok seriously want to know who is disappointed about not having an HD included? EVERYONE !@!#@! Its a total lose situation for developers. No developer in thier right mind will create games that need an HD because they don't want to be prejudice against users that don't have one. There are not many games that a user is willing to pump out another $100 for a hd. Now this means that no developer can take advantage of having an internal HD like they could in the original xbox. How is this a win for developers again? If you talk to almost any developer they will tell you the same thing, no hd really suks. Oh, and there is a 360 game you can't play without a HD final fantasy !!@
There really will only be one major factor in xbox's demise. The Blu-Ray. If MS had waited to get HD-DVD into thier box they might have had a fighting chance, without it they are going to go spiraling down hill. There are two major aspects to this speed, streaming is very slow on current-gen DVD's, streaming on te Blu-Ray is 4x-5x faster. For games like GTA that steam with is invaluable. The second is size. With current get dual layer you only get 7 gigs (2 gigs for MS use only). 7 gigs is not much for a "next-gen" game. At the studio I work at this is a huge concern, since we are streaming the world we only have available to us 4.5 gigs since swaping isn't possible, because it is too slow. Sharders are not the next-gen thing, with mulitple passes being taken for everything, with huge textures. The first couple of years will not make much of a diffrence. But when the majority of developers get used to using the new power, the xbox will lag behind and be lost. The whole "we will go HD later" is a joke as well. No publisher in thier right mind will rls on HD when they know the majority of xbox users have current gen DVD's. Thank fully Sony will not have this problem. Now if Sony would only decide to charge more and make a harddrive mandatory, ms would really be crying. And ofcource there will be a revolution sitting next to eveyones ps3.
I've had a few sharp products over the years, and think they are very good at innovating new products, but the overall quality of thier products is very low. I bought a Sharp laptop a year ago and have had to return it 4 times already to get it fixed becaues of it breaking down on me. I doubt this new laptop will last much longer, and its probably just as easy to somehow mess up the 3D display.
The revolution looks like it will be comming out as a next next gen console.
I took a compliers class a year or so ago. We had to make a complier in c using lex/yacc for pascal. We also put in some optimization in it. But or profressor who has been doing this for around 10 years or so alwasy said to never trust a complier for optimizing your code. most don't do a very good job of it. and each complier optimizes stuff diffrently. some even broke code. His comparisons were using gcc, ibm complier, and a couple others, as well as optimizing in the code itself. The optimized code ran better in 90% of the runs.
OH please, don't whine about not knowing how to use a baddass and very powerful editor. juut because you are a lazy ass and don't want to figure out how to quit. and if it took you that lonf to figure it out you don't seem to bright. it would take less than a minute to google vim for cmd and figure it out. And pls don't compare vim to pico, an absolute piece of shit.
Screw FireFox and IE. Both will lose out in the end to Google's Browser. Everyone trusts google more than ms and when there is a link for a google browser on google's home page it will take over the market. A little to late bill.
A couple of million more unsecured computers for hackers to break into and use. A couple million more computers that will be full of viruses and adware. Did MS make videos on how to procect from viruses and ad ware? probably not... And for the three programs only.. what a joke. Obviously this is just another scam so that once a user has become more familiar with computing they have to go and buy another MS procuct so they can have a real functional computer. woohoo way to go MS, leech of the poor as well. They probably even have an if statement that make sure all programs that are installed are MS products!
The funny thing here is that by trying to have more control over customers they are just creating more reason for people to go to the internet to download thier movies. Who the hell is going to want to buy a DVD player than can become unusable because someone on the other side of the world cracked the key that was being currently used? If they really wanted to stop piracy all they would have to do is sell DVD's at $2! Not many people would even consider piracy anymore because of how cheap it was! All they have to do is make it cheaper to buy DVDs than to pirate them. But ofcouse then they wouldn't be making trillions ever year it would only be billions. The other thing Hollywood never seems to realize is that if your eyes can see it, it can be copied! Guess its time to ban all video recording devices as well. And might as well ban PC's too while they are at it. mahahhahahahahah