This is the exact attitude I am talking about, (and yes I was about 90% to unlock when the NGE hit) just because they fell slighted doesn't mean they are justified in trying to spoil everyones fun.
Really it is SOE and LA's fault... they created an alpha class and made it "hard" to acheve and imposible to balance. At this point I think Star Wars (in a marketable form) can't be an MMO because the simple truth is that everyone (or nearly) wants to be a Jedi, Star Wars is about Jedi and Jedi have abilities greater that average people.
Well I found my solution to the problem (quiting), honestly I feel sorry for those who can't move on.
I quit, not because of the game changing (it was kinda fun if you gave it a chance) I quit because of all the bitching from my fellow players. In the end it became impossible to have a fun play session without having to deal with mass protests or hate-spam in the local channel (why these people didn't just quit I don't know).
The other thing that got to me was the so called "Elder Jedi" who made it there "job" to abuse anyone who respeced into or started a new jedi because they didn't earn it. I think the "alpha" class is a big part of what lead to the downfall of SWG.
There is no way of knowing for sure but Google does produce things (like gmail and gcalender) and is not simply a black hole that money comes out of (how investment profesonals fall for that I will never know). I know that I trust a company that doesn't hinge there busness model on energy futures trading (what is that anyway?) more than one who's busness I understand (essentaly advertising).
That's a point... I have only used it (the wired one) in the store. I guess I just don't see the point... then again the first thing I do when I buy a Mac is buy or retask a logitech mouse to go with it.
Forgive me, but would you mind explaning who it will harm? I am sure there is someone who has a very specific situation with which and image based installer is incompatable but I can't think of it.
That's interesting, it could be argued that EQ was the first big MMO to expand the market, perhaps this is an indication of a trend in the market. Many have started that WoW was the "mold breaker" you refer to, I would guess that in a few years games will be negativly compared to WoW just like EQ.
It's funny, there is evidence that the market is reaching a saturation point as we speak. Having said that if WoW players suddenly start an exodus (due to say a disapointing expansion) there will be quite a few gamers relativly new to MMOs and looking for there next fix. If I had to guess I would say that many of these new MMO teams are trying to be done in time to catch some of Blizzards cast offs (if my friends are any indication I would wager that quite a few WoW players are geting the itch to try something new).
It's a smart move on the part of these developers even if the game hasd no staying power, even "unsucessful" MMOs are extremely profitable in the short term and involve almost no loss when they shut down.
Oh it's simple really... all they have to do is require that there is an Xbox360 networked to every vista computer if the user wants to use file and print sharing.
You may laugh but I wouldnt put it past them.
I never said that GW was totaly original. (They have developed a rather complete lore for both of there Game worlds, but I understand the "anything I don't like is stupid" attitude so I will let that go.)
All I am trying to get across is that no matter how you look at it when you examine the facts Games Workshop did not and could not have copied Blizzard and it is a documented fact that Blizzard was inspired by Games Workshop products.
I sware if I hear that the Tyranids are a copy of the Zerg one more time I am going to start kicking people in the shins.
Listen... Blizard... Fanboys... Blizard was heavly "inspired" by Games Workshop products (That have been around since the '70s and '80s) not the other way around. That doesn't make Warcraft and Starcraft "not good" it just makes them not at all origonal.
Yeah you are probably right... At least with ATI you can buy the name brand cards (built by ATI) and know that it will have good warenty support and a low chance of defects.
Is there any one (or two) nVidia based card manufacturers that you trust? I, as you can see, have been bad at picking winners so far.
This will likely put a functonal end to the Intel processor + Intel chipset + ATI Video card systems I like to build.
It wouldn't be so bad if every nVidia based product I have ever tried to use hadn't been DOA.
Well... at least I can still stick with Intel chipsets... there is no way I am using a third party northbridge/southbridge I don't care if I can't use SLI.
Wow, that is perhaps the most insightful thing I have ever read about the MMOG industry.
It is a shame when the game you are currently playing starts down that path (I have been lucky so far with CoH).
Ahh yes but where they (Blood Elves) compatible with Holy magic?
My point is only that they are shoehorning this change in to pasify the player base, all MMOs do this and it saddens me when it happens.
Perhaps... but then again I know enough people who strongly advocate the game to imply it at least had a soul at some point and heavy handed game balance changes with no respect for the established game world story or "fluff" as some call it is high on my list of ways MMOGs can lose there souls.
If the game still appeals to you feel free to play it... I will likely never touch it if this is how the developer choses to go about changing there game.
One little thing... to me the eletist buttholes are the ones I don't consider worth playing with.
Is it in turn eletist to say that I only really want to play with people who are fun to play with not the "full timers" who tend to suck the fun out of everything.
and I saw this comming... this is a sad day for creativity in gaming.
Just making everyone identical is not a good way to balance a game.
If WoW ever had a soul it has officaly lost it.
That is not the kind of complaining I am talking about.
I am with you, I have little time to play and try to get maximum enjoyment from it, the whineing in SWG is of another nature... imagine if 14 of the 16 people (these being your 8 hour plus "vetrans") in that SOCOM game instead of playing sat around and repeated "this game used to be better I want it to be like it was" over and over.
To put it another way:
A man walks into a doctor's office and says "It hurts when I play SOE MMOs." The doctor after a moment of thought replys "Don't play SOE MMOs."
That's great, 30 bucks to go play with all the whiny babies in SWG again... Thanks but I'll pass.
The only way they could ever "save" SWG would be to find a way to make the people worth playing with outnumber those who are not worth playing with, if they could do that the state of the gameplay would be highly irrelivant.
Apple makes an OS that is very good for portable computing especaly when used as a secondary machine.
Plus while they charge a bit more than market they make up for that with design and included fetures not often found on the sub $1500 range (oviously talking Macbooks here).
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This is the exact attitude I am talking about, (and yes I was about 90% to unlock when the NGE hit) just because they fell slighted doesn't mean they are justified in trying to spoil everyones fun. Really it is SOE and LA's fault... they created an alpha class and made it "hard" to acheve and imposible to balance. At this point I think Star Wars (in a marketable form) can't be an MMO because the simple truth is that everyone (or nearly) wants to be a Jedi, Star Wars is about Jedi and Jedi have abilities greater that average people. Well I found my solution to the problem (quiting), honestly I feel sorry for those who can't move on.
I played through the NGE also.
I quit, not because of the game changing (it was kinda fun if you gave it a chance) I quit because of all the bitching from my fellow players. In the end it became impossible to have a fun play session without having to deal with mass protests or hate-spam in the local channel (why these people didn't just quit I don't know).
The other thing that got to me was the so called "Elder Jedi" who made it there "job" to abuse anyone who respeced into or started a new jedi because they didn't earn it. I think the "alpha" class is a big part of what lead to the downfall of SWG.
That's great... now the queston is; if you are already a customer would the product block this mail and if so is that blackmail?
There is no way of knowing for sure but Google does produce things (like gmail and gcalender) and is not simply a black hole that money comes out of (how investment profesonals fall for that I will never know). I know that I trust a company that doesn't hinge there busness model on energy futures trading (what is that anyway?) more than one who's busness I understand (essentaly advertising).
That's a point... I have only used it (the wired one) in the store. I guess I just don't see the point... then again the first thing I do when I buy a Mac is buy or retask a logitech mouse to go with it.
Forgive me, but would you mind explaning who it will harm? I am sure there is someone who has a very specific situation with which and image based installer is incompatable but I can't think of it.
I don't see how this is funny... that is what they are going to do.
It's there... you have to lift up ou index finger and then click to "right click", it's a pain it use.
That's interesting, it could be argued that EQ was the first big MMO to expand the market, perhaps this is an indication of a trend in the market. Many have started that WoW was the "mold breaker" you refer to, I would guess that in a few years games will be negativly compared to WoW just like EQ.
It's funny, there is evidence that the market is reaching a saturation point as we speak. Having said that if WoW players suddenly start an exodus (due to say a disapointing expansion) there will be quite a few gamers relativly new to MMOs and looking for there next fix. If I had to guess I would say that many of these new MMO teams are trying to be done in time to catch some of Blizzards cast offs (if my friends are any indication I would wager that quite a few WoW players are geting the itch to try something new).
It's a smart move on the part of these developers even if the game hasd no staying power, even "unsucessful" MMOs are extremely profitable in the short term and involve almost no loss when they shut down.
Oh it's simple really... all they have to do is require that there is an Xbox360 networked to every vista computer if the user wants to use file and print sharing. You may laugh but I wouldnt put it past them.
I never said that GW was totaly original. (They have developed a rather complete lore for both of there Game worlds, but I understand the "anything I don't like is stupid" attitude so I will let that go.) All I am trying to get across is that no matter how you look at it when you examine the facts Games Workshop did not and could not have copied Blizzard and it is a documented fact that Blizzard was inspired by Games Workshop products.
Well yes... but this is the internet.
I sware if I hear that the Tyranids are a copy of the Zerg one more time I am going to start kicking people in the shins.
Listen... Blizard... Fanboys... Blizard was heavly "inspired" by Games Workshop products (That have been around since the '70s and '80s) not the other way around. That doesn't make Warcraft and Starcraft "not good" it just makes them not at all origonal.
Yeah you are probably right... At least with ATI you can buy the name brand cards (built by ATI) and know that it will have good warenty support and a low chance of defects.
Is there any one (or two) nVidia based card manufacturers that you trust? I, as you can see, have been bad at picking winners so far.
This will likely put a functonal end to the Intel processor + Intel chipset + ATI Video card systems I like to build.
It wouldn't be so bad if every nVidia based product I have ever tried to use hadn't been DOA.
Well... at least I can still stick with Intel chipsets... there is no way I am using a third party northbridge/southbridge I don't care if I can't use SLI.
Wow, that is perhaps the most insightful thing I have ever read about the MMOG industry. It is a shame when the game you are currently playing starts down that path (I have been lucky so far with CoH).
Ahh yes but where they (Blood Elves) compatible with Holy magic? My point is only that they are shoehorning this change in to pasify the player base, all MMOs do this and it saddens me when it happens.
Perhaps... but then again I know enough people who strongly advocate the game to imply it at least had a soul at some point and heavy handed game balance changes with no respect for the established game world story or "fluff" as some call it is high on my list of ways MMOGs can lose there souls.
If the game still appeals to you feel free to play it... I will likely never touch it if this is how the developer choses to go about changing there game.
One little thing... to me the eletist buttholes are the ones I don't consider worth playing with.
Is it in turn eletist to say that I only really want to play with people who are fun to play with not the "full timers" who tend to suck the fun out of everything.
and I saw this comming... this is a sad day for creativity in gaming. Just making everyone identical is not a good way to balance a game. If WoW ever had a soul it has officaly lost it.
Stop being so damn funny, some of us are at work and now look like crazy people.
That is not the kind of complaining I am talking about.
I am with you, I have little time to play and try to get maximum enjoyment from it, the whineing in SWG is of another nature... imagine if 14 of the 16 people (these being your 8 hour plus "vetrans") in that SOCOM game instead of playing sat around and repeated "this game used to be better I want it to be like it was" over and over.
To put it another way:
A man walks into a doctor's office and says "It hurts when I play SOE MMOs."
The doctor after a moment of thought replys "Don't play SOE MMOs."
That may be true... but the only MMOs I have heard of having this problem are SOE manged ones.
And the pure negativity of SWG is by far the worst gameing experince I have ever had. I wish I had quit sooner.
That's great, 30 bucks to go play with all the whiny babies in SWG again... Thanks but I'll pass.
The only way they could ever "save" SWG would be to find a way to make the people worth playing with outnumber those who are not worth playing with, if they could do that the state of the gameplay would be highly irrelivant.
Apple makes an OS that is very good for portable computing especaly when used as a secondary machine. Plus while they charge a bit more than market they make up for that with design and included fetures not often found on the sub $1500 range (oviously talking Macbooks here).