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The Robot Professor

kaizokunami writes "From Wired News, we learn that a Japanese professor has created an android of himself that he uses to 'robot in' to classes. According to the article, 'It blinks and fidgets in its seat, moving its foot up and down restlessly, its shoulders rising gently as though it were breathing. These micromovements are so convincing that it's hard to believe this is a machine -- it seems more like a man wearing a rubber mask.'" More from the article: "'I want to check whether students, as well as my family, can feel my presence through Geminoid,' says Ishiguro, who seems perfectly at ease with his new twin. Geminoid already has a palpable gravitas that comes across when chatting to Ishiguro through the android, and one hesitates to even poke the machine's rubbery hands and cheeks."

136 comments

  1. automated grad student by dan14807 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Grad students are now obsolete.

    1. Re:automated grad student by rockytriton · · Score: 0

      FINALLY Someone came up with a way to make more asians!

    2. Re:automated grad student by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you. I haven't had that good of a laugh all day. You just saved my wife from a beating to improve my mood!

    3. Re:automated grad student by DJCacophony · · Score: 2, Funny

      "You are a threat to you graduating. Prepare to be destroyed."

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    4. Re:automated grad student by plover · · Score: 2, Funny
      With my luck, next class I take I'll end up with a robotic grad student standing in for my robot professor.

      And it'll probably have a damn thick accent, too. *breep*-*breep*

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  2. Let me be the first to say... by BigWhiteGuy_27 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Domo arigato, Professor Roboto!

    1. Re:Let me be the first to say... by vancondo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ..he is the modern man, with parts made in japan.

      no, wait a minute... He's Kilroy!

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    2. Re:Let me be the first to say... by masterzora · · Score: 1

      What the *hell*? How is this insightful in any way, shape, form, and/or fashion?

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    3. Re:Let me be the first to say... by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

      Because it's slashdot. Hell, most of them still think Zonk is an intelligent editor!

    4. Re:Let me be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because funny doesn't give karma anymore. That's why.

  3. I can see it now... by Cherita+Chen · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I can see it now, the building catches on fire, and some poor fireman/policeman/samaritan gives his life or lung trying to save a freaking robot...

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    1. Re:I can see it now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would think the cables running out its ass would be a clue...

    2. Re:I can see it now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      This is Japan we're talking about...

    3. Re:I can see it now... by kfg · · Score: 1

      Could happen. In my neighborhood a man actually risked his life running into a frickin' tornado to save what turned out to be a Cabbage Patch doll.

      KFG

    4. Re:I can see it now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now what would be REALLY touching and moving is to see a robot fireman run into a fire to save a burning robot.

    5. Re:I can see it now... by snard6 · · Score: 2, Informative

      No... no... no... you've got it all backwards. It's the robot that ends up going into the burning building to save the fireman/policeman/samaritan!

  4. Now professors by ZenKen · · Score: 1

    don't need to show up to class to teach like students don't need to show up to learn....

    1. Re:Now professors by kfg · · Score: 3, Funny

      In future degrees will be awarded on the basis of library fines.

      KFG

    2. Re:Now professors by Nesetril · · Score: 1

      they are doing that already at Harvard. except they are using parking fines.

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  5. Palpable gravitas.... by MarkByers · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have been looking for an android with a palpable gravitas for a long time. I hope it is fully functional.

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    1. Re:Palpable gravitas.... by GundamFan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Stop being so damn funny, some of us are at work and now look like crazy people.

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    2. Re:Palpable gravitas.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think it's 'palpable' in the way you think it is.

    3. Re:Palpable gravitas.... by nebaz · · Score: 0

      Ever been modded 50% overrated and 50% underrated without acutaly being rated?
      Yes

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    4. Re:Palpable gravitas.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Palpable gravitas'?? Who talks like that?

    5. Re:Palpable gravitas.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never palpated a gravitas before. I hope it's not like having anal sex with the android while it's lecturing, which would be appalling. Er, especially if the professor didn't know it was happening.

  6. This is pretty confusing.. by DarkFalconOfTheWestF · · Score: 1
    it seems more like a man wearing a rubber mask.
    Kinky... Now where is my Cherry 2000!?
  7. Time for by zymano · · Score: 2, Funny

    Robot Supermodels.

    1. Re:Time for by Charmless1 · · Score: 1
      oblig movie quote:
      Lisa: "You guys created me, I didn't come from anywhere. Before you started messing around with your computer, I didn't even exist. By the way, you did an excelent job. Thank you"
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    2. Re:Time for by xtracto · · Score: 1

      omg-i-want-one

      OMG Robot ponnies!

      I for one welcome our new Robot Professor Overlords!

      (sorry, I am not good for this)

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    3. Re:Time for by timeOday · · Score: 1

      Seriously, I can't think of any other role in society that would be more easily performed by a robot! The job description is simple: walking manequin.

  8. So this Japenesse professor is actually... by SageMadHatter · · Score: 1

    ...Dr. Noonien Soong?

    1. Re:So this Japenesse professor is actually... by FusionDragon2099 · · Score: 1

      KHAAAAN!

    2. Re:So this Japenesse professor is actually... by Hotawa+Hawk-eye · · Score: 1

      Close. Ricardo Montalban was Khan Noonien Singh (aka Khaaaaaan!), Brent Spiner was Dr. Noonian Soong (Data's creator).

  9. Just not a fan of such humanoid robots by pembo13 · · Score: 1

    For some reason I am not a fan of humanoid robots. Ghost in the Shell is cool to watch, I just don't want to live in such a world.

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    1. Re:Just not a fan of such humanoid robots by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 4, Funny

      blasphemy! I've always wanted a female invisible naked assassin robot to be a reality!

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    2. Re:Just not a fan of such humanoid robots by neonprimetime · · Score: 1
      So, which would you prefer run around the earth?
      • Humanoid Robots
      • Cloned Humans

      Because they're both coming, and IMHO either way it's going to suck.
    3. Re:Just not a fan of such humanoid robots by pembo13 · · Score: 1

      I would rather none, but I do see the benifits of the technologies that would make them possible.

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    4. Re:Just not a fan of such humanoid robots by Cervantes · · Score: 1

      blasphemy! I've always wanted a female invisible naked assassin robot to be a reality!

      Personally, I'd rather the female naked assassin robots weren't invisible. Because of both the "naked" part, and the "assassin" part.

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    5. Re:Just not a fan of such humanoid robots by kalirion · · Score: 1

      I'm assuming you wouldn't want to live in such a world because of the cyborgs, which play a FAR greater role in the GitS world than the humanoid robots do. The professor's robot wouldn't be a cyborg unless there was an actual brain transplant involved.

    6. Re:Just not a fan of such humanoid robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Because they're both coming, and IMHO either way it's going to suck.

      Well, I'm coming because they suck!

  10. Uncanny Valley by condition-label-red · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder where this fits on the Uncanny Valley curve?

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    1. Re:Uncanny Valley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About the same place your comment does on unfunny alley, asswad.

  11. STNG by PetriBORG · · Score: 2, Funny

    But is this robot professor... fully functional? Alternitively, in other news half of slashdot realizes that they can make their very own girl robot...

    Ow! My eyes! The goggles, they do nothing!

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    1. Re:STNG by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      I've had several educators at college act like a robot; Maybe all we need to do is hook some type of biometric device on to these un-educators and let a professional take them over.

  12. Hair styles by zoloback · · Score: 1

    So he creates and android that looks exactly like him, looks upon his creation and does not realize that he needs a change of style?
    I personally would have made myself taller, a little more athletic, and heat vision is a must.

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  13. Evil Twin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    who seems perfectly at ease with his new twin

    Sure, he may be at ease with his 'twin' now, but little does he realize that it's actually all part of its nefarious plan for world domination. Soon he will be disposed of, and his identity taken over...
    1. Re:Evil Twin? by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      No, first there will be some cases of mistaken identity, which usually leads to an episode where the professor goes on 2 dates at the same time, and has his android fill in for him and.... Oh wait, maybe that was an episode of Three's Company or something.

  14. How do we get to be teacher's pet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do we give the professor a disk with a jpeg of an apple on it?

    1. Re:How do we get to be teacher's pet? by cno3 · · Score: 1

      No, but if you plug in an iPod you can download the answers to next week's exam.

  15. I for one.. by Rorian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    welcome our new android lecturer overlords?

    Seriously, something like this must destroy students concentration.. It certainly seems to take away the human side of teaching.

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    1. Re:I for one.. by onlysolution · · Score: 1

      I think the point of this robot was to allow the human side of teaching to be projected remotely. Something like this, if the professor can get the robots look and actions farther towards the right of the uncanny valley, will hold a student's attention far better than a video-conference type setup and allow a single professor to be in multiple places at once. Doesn't seem like a bad idea at all.

    2. Re:I for one.. by Chemisor · · Score: 1

      Do you seriously think that TAs actually have a human side?

    3. Re:I for one.. by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1
      Do you seriously think that TAs actually have a human side?

      Of course we do! We have lots of laughs making fun of the stupid crap undergrads put on paper. We even post the funnier ones on the wall in the graduate assistant office.

    4. Re:I for one.. by really? · · Score: 1

      Hyenas laugh too, that does not make them human. ;-)

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    5. Re:I for one.. by Rorian · · Score: 1

      No, I don't. However, at least they have the politeness to core dump only in the mens room.

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  16. Impaired Human by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Interesting! While the android is in deed very similar looking to the actual guy it does give off the aura of not beeing "entirely there"! It reminds me of the "look" of a paraplegic or of someone who has suffered a stroke. I don't mean this to be insensitive, its just that it is interesting that the best attempt at artificial life resembles a human who has sufffered from some sort of trauma.

  17. This is really great, but... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...the shit's going to hit the fan when the guy dies and the robot decides to seek revenge on the guys that made fun of him in college, leaving the dimwitted clones of one of the revengee's children to seek out help from their grandfather's crack team of adventurers.

    1. Re:This is really great, but... by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

      "Bar-ba-ra! Bar-ba-ra! Use the English Bone China cup! And if it's not hot enough, I'll throw it on the floor!"

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    2. Re:This is really great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this a reference to a movie or something?

    3. Re:This is really great, but... by Atario · · Score: 1
      Is this a reference to a movie or something?
      Yes.
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  18. Impressions mean alot by general+scruff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is something about the gaze of an intelligent person that can't be replicated. I'm wondering if this might have some subconscious effect on the students. I'm sure it would be alot harder to keep eye contact with a creation like this. And from there who knows what the complications would be.

    Does anyone else think they would have a hard time learning from and listening to an object that didn't exude intelligence, even if in the background it was being controlled by a highly intelligent individual?

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    1. Re:Impressions mean alot by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      Does anyone else think they would have a hard time learning from and listening to an object that didn't exude intelligence

      I've had to learn from quite a few professors that don't exactly exude intelligence, so I'm not sure this really changes anything. If anything, they absorbed it.

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    2. Re:Impressions mean alot by Slightly+Askew · · Score: 1
      Does anyone else think they would have a hard time learning from and listening to an object that didn't exude intelligence, even if in the background it was being controlled by a highly intelligent individual?

      Yes. I always find my attention wandering during those State of the Union Addresses.

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    3. Re:Impressions mean alot by timeOday · · Score: 1
      You are restating the article:
      Ishiguro said he wants the robot to have sonzai-kan, or presence. His group will try to quantify the elusive quality that makes people sit up and take notice, and figure out how it can be captured and transmitted.
      But how do you know the gaze of an intelligent person can't be replicated?
    4. Re:Impressions mean alot by IorDMUX · · Score: 1

      I wish to coin a phrase: "The Wizard of Oz Effect". ... Now I just have to write a paper about it.

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    5. Re:Impressions mean alot by DamnStupidElf · · Score: 1

      There is something about the gaze of an intelligent person that can't be replicated. I'm wondering if this might have some subconscious effect on the students. I'm sure it would be alot harder to keep eye contact with a creation like this. And from there who knows what the complications would be.

      The only thing necessary to fix the "gaze" is object tracking, especially tracking other eyes. The most telling sign of intelligence is in eyes that look into your own. We recognize it in our fellow humans as well as animals. The only other good fake for intelligence is to make the eyes respond to quick movements and loud noises, and tracking new objects as they enter the line of sight for a short period, then returning to the object of interest. Probably looking at someone speaking to the android would be the most appropriate response. To avoid staring people down, it just needs a politeness filter. Make eye contact for 2.3 seconds, avert eyes to another object for 4 seconds, return gaze to eyes for .7 seconds, avert, etc. There are all sorts of non-eye enhancements to be made concerning involuntary muscle movements and slight body adjustments. Making the android keep its own balance while sitting and moving its arms around would probably fix that problem, instead of rigidly mounting the android to a base.

  19. not an intelligent robot by escay · · Score: 3, Informative

    FTA it looks like the actions and movements of the android have to be entirely controlled by humans using motion sensors. The android apparently is incapable of reading any kind of inputs (visual/aural) and processing and acting on them (the eyes/ears are for purely cosmetic reasons and nothing more, i believe). This is purely a controlled mechanical robot, not an intelligent auto-responsive robot - and though it's a neat proof of concept, I wonder what its real world applications could be?

    1. Re:not an intelligent robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. It's not an android; it's a puppet.

    2. Re:not an intelligent robot by poser101 · · Score: 1

      FTA...

      But why bother to build robots that look like humans? Ishiguro views machines as good vehicles to learn more about human nature. He combines engineering with cognitive science with the aim of making very humanlike robots, which can be used as test beds for theories about human perception, communication and cognition. He calls his approach "android science."

      "A robot is a kind of simulator for expressing human functions, especially the cerebellum or the muscles," says Norihiro Hagita, director of the ATR lab that developed Geminoid. "It's a kind of ultimate human interface."

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    3. Re:not an intelligent robot by onlysolution · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That is is because it is not an really meant to be an intelligent, autonmous robot. It is a telepresence device that has automatic fidgeting and breathing capabilities to allow it to appear more human.

    4. Re:not an intelligent robot by timeOday · · Score: 1

      Somebody says that about virtually every story with the word "robot" in it, which makes me wonder if those making the observation are working with a nonstandard definition of the word. In this case, I think you're mistaken - I get the impression that at least the autonomic actions, like breathing, tapping a foot, and shifting in the chair, run automatically. Quote: "it runs on semiautonomous motion programs." I doubt he's wearing a sensor that conveys the precise timing of his breathing.

    5. Re:not an intelligent robot by nasch · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I wonder what its real world applications could be?
      Telepresence. How effective it would be is in question, but the guy could lecture his class (and answer questions, etc) from hundreds of miles away, presumably with much greater "fidelity" than videoconferencing. Obviously this isn't cost effective now, except for the fact that he was going to build the robot anyway, but who knows how cheap it could be in the future.
    6. Re:not an intelligent robot by Cheapy · · Score: 1

      Doesn't respond to input? Must be controlled by some unseen entity?

      It'd be perfect for a RoboPolitician!

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    7. Re:not an intelligent robot by curebox · · Score: 1

      Well, the actions and voice could be recorded and played back. A honed version could be used as a head of state replacement during public addresses to avoid assassination attempts. Futurama, anyone?

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  20. Personality Simulations by Puff+of+Logic · · Score: 1

    Not bad, for a first step. Of course, he should really be working on a beta-level personality simulation such as those described in Alastair Reynolds' series of books (Revelation Space et al). With that achieved, he wouldn't even have to be involved in teaching students. Now that is a solid technological goal!

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  21. Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by kabocox · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I bet this thing would do a better job than some of the professors that I've had. What's really funny, is that general ed. teachers may find themselves out of work as one of these teachs an entire class prerecorded material. The only negative is that it can't answer questions, but then again most teachers don't answer questions. They would just need to fill it with verbal outputs all saying, "find the answer yourself." If these were cheap enough, I could see them replacing some highschool teachers and some college either general ed or freshman level courses. I saw one post about super model versions next. Well, you know this is crafted after a teacher most wouldn't pick. They'd most likely pick a super model or atleast a very attractive person to use as the model for these things if they went into production.

    1. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      What the fuck is the point of that?

      Why sit in a class and listen to a recording while staring at some Chuck E Cheese prop when you could sit at home and read the material 10 times faster?

      Are we so hung up on this obselete and ancient system of "lecture" that we would stoop to such levels?

      Get it through your head everyone! Sitting in a lecture is the antithesis of learning! College is a highly inefficient way to learn as a result of this.

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    2. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by mugnyte · · Score: 1


        Um, they have teachers like this. It's called a "book on tape", or equiv. Skip the Disney rubber face BS.

        That said, the learning process should be much more interactive with a mentor that that. If you're not able eto dialog with your prof., then you may be in the wrong class. (Maybe you're talking to a mannequin?)

    3. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 2, Funny
      Sitting in a lecture is the antithesis of learning! College is a highly inefficient way to learn as a result of this.
      A lecture is a method of transferring words from the teacher's paper to the student's, without passing through the brain of either.

      One of my lecturers told me that at one of the few lectures I attended. All the time I thought i was lazy, I was just being efficient.
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    4. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 1

      I could picture it in tec support. Just make it choose randomly from "Try turning it off & on again", "have you tried searching google" and "RTFM!!!".

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    5. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      Nice. :P

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    6. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by plover · · Score: 2, Funny
      Um, they have teachers like this. It's called a "book on tape", or equiv. Skip the Disney rubber face BS.

      Or if it makes you more comfortable, play the book on tape through a Teddy Ruxpin. Same difference.

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    7. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by Rudisaurus · · Score: 1
      I saw one post about super model versions next. Well, you know this is crafted after a teacher most wouldn't pick. They'd most likely pick a super model or atleast a very attractive person to use as the model for these things if they went into production.
      They already have. She's called Repliee Q1Expo.
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    8. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by houghi · · Score: 1
      They'd most likely pick a super model or atleast a very attractive person to use as the model for these things if they went into production.


      I am afraid you are right. Not only is this a model, it will become a role-model as well. Unfortunatly we live in a time where looks are more importand then anything else.

      I have seen an "ultimate makeover" where a (kindergarten?) teacher got the makeover. Now this was no makeover due to some extreme disforming. Nothing a bit of makeup, a new hair and clothing style and an attitude change could handle.

      For me this teacher is telling the kids: No matter how hard you try or what you know or do, unless you don't look great you are worthless.

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    9. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      Are we so hung up on this obselete and ancient system of "lecture" that we would stoop to such levels?

      Yes.

      You have to jump through hoops in order to get a piece of paper so you can get a job and jump through more hoops.

      It's either that or Display Adaptability(tm) and find your own way to make a living.

      I do find it both sad and amusing that you need to mostly sit still in order to get a piece of paper that will convince your employer that you're dumb enough to sit still for their bullshit.

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    10. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by GWBasic · · Score: 1
      I bet this thing would do a better job than some of the professors that I've had. What's really funny, is that general ed. teachers may find themselves out of work as one of these teachs an entire class prerecorded material. The only negative is that it can't answer questions, but then again most teachers don't answer questions. They would just need to fill it with verbal outputs all saying, "find the answer yourself." If these were cheap enough, I could see them replacing some highschool teachers and some college either general ed or freshman level courses. I saw one post about super model versions next. Well, you know this is crafted after a teacher most wouldn't pick. They'd most likely pick a super model or atleast a very attractive person to use as the model for these things if they went into production.

      Actually, I think we'll see these in fast food restaurants and any other establishment where cheap labor is desirable. After all, they speak English, are clean, and show up on time.

    11. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by kabocox · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think we'll see these in fast food restaurants and any other establishment where cheap labor is desirable. After all, they speak English, are clean, and show up on time.

      In the long term maybe, it all depends on cost. I'd be mixed replacing "low end" jobs with machines like these since then we'd need to find/create more "low end" jobs to replace them. If you actually could replace 90-98% of current human jobs with machines, then what would 98% of the population end up doing? I'd think that machines could never become "cheaper" than actual human labor. That's more a gut feeling than anything else. You'd find out the pros/cons of machines fairly fast though. Take ATMs. My wife and I prefer them 98% of the time to dealing with a human teller. We could do the same exact thing at McDonald's having an ATM with all the choices at the Drive-Thru and in store where a small key is despensed, where you unlock your food when it is ready. You could have either machines or people prepare the food, but you've just taken the human interface from the fast food process. I'd much rather push a few buttons rather than speak to a human fast food teller. I think the LCD displays showing what you've ordered have been the best fast food invention of the past few years. I don't mind removing humans from alot of processes, but let's remember that we still need jobs ourselves at the end of the day. Let's hope an automated AI compiler could replace most of our entire software industry.

    12. Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... by GWBasic · · Score: 1

      I really have no problem replacing humans with machines. It typically frees us up to do more leasurly careers. Take a look at the farming and automobile industries. Besides, no business is a charity.

  22. But can this RoboProfessor... by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    ...detect your Crackberry that has all the test answers sent to you remotely by your friends?

    If so, that would be an ingenious invention.

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  23. Don't trust this guy by Da_Biz · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want to check whether students, as well as my family, can feel my presence through Geminoid.

    Sounds like this guy is using The Force to suit his evil purposes.

    1. Re:Don't trust this guy by pjgeer · · Score: 1

      I don't believe a bit of it. What geek hates to go to class, especially when you've got the best gadget of all, a robot? "So I could stay home", yeah right you charlatan.

      I might be convinced if he reports that the robot stood in for him during a go with the missus so he could recompile Gentoo.

  24. That's straight-up dope, foo. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dupe article.

    Fo'shizzle.

  25. So we've gone from artificial intelligence... by jpellino · · Score: 1

    ... to artifical schizophrenia, in just a few short years.

    What wonderful times we live in.

    Seriously, though - if this thing can wait for the cable guy, he should sell a million of them.

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  26. I'd be careful by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Funny
    That android looks pissed in *every* photo. You know, if it started a rampage, the only way to disable it is to crush it in a hydraulic press, or melt it down. I'd guess they haven't prepared a bubbling pool of molten slag - just in case.


    And those grad students need to take better care of themselves - look at the acne on the guy in the last picture! He's giving even the most ardent mom's basement-dwelling /.ers a run for their money!

    1. Re:I'd be careful by ozbird · · Score: 1

      That android looks pissed in *every* photo. You know, if it started a rampage, the only way to disable it is to crush it in a hydraulic press, or melt it down. I'd guess they haven't prepared a bubbling pool of molten slag - just in case.

      Relax, it's Japan - they have ninjas.

  27. next step by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of Old Japanese Male College Professor robots, can we get Young Blonde Female College Student robots? Because I'd, uh, be willing to, you know, test out the functionality.

  28. I wish... by screeble · · Score: 1

    For the past two days I have been remotely participating in a Siemens hiQ 4200 operations and maintenance course. Although I can hear my fellow students over VoIP and view the presentation over a slideshow I'm finding that I miss the simple interaction of person to person communications. It's been very easy to get distracted by e-mail and things that are happening in real life. I've been thinking that there should be a video feed to go along with the audio and text presentation. Even a simulated instructor would be better than the way delivery is going on here now. Of course, the droning on about ssh sessions and unix administration might have something to do with why I'm having trouble keeping focused.

  29. Not impressed. by MaWeiTao · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To be completely frank, I think this robot is a waste of effort. The thing is completely dependent on human input which means they might has well just have the actual guy sitting there in front of people. Even if they were recording a number of preset facial expressions it will never be truly convincing because it wont be able to call on the nuances of human emotion.

    A robot doesn't look alive simply because its eyes wander around the room. If the intent is to guage human reaction to the thing I think they're going to find the response is exceedingly negative given how mishapen and disturbing the robot looks.

    It's not like this is anything particularly unique either, it just happened that this guy used his own face as a model. Although, I suppose this guy's work isn't surprising given the amount of research and development Japanese put towards consumer products. I predict that will be the ultimate application we'll see for this work.

    I'd be impressed if they were developing AI which mimicked human reactions. If the thing could learn by watching people and apply those observations for its own use in interactions.

    1. Re:Not impressed. by David_Shultz · · Score: 1
      I'd be impressed if they were developing AI which mimicked human reactions. If the thing could learn by watching people and apply those observations for its own use in interactions.


      This robot is not an exercise in AI -it is an exercise in robotics. Your lack of enthusiasm stems from the fact that you are interested in a different domain. To put the article in a more positive light, this story is a sign of the times. Maybe it doesn't demonstrate a completely new and incredible breakthrough (in fact it definitely doesn't), but it does represent a number of things: people are thinking of new and interesting uses of robotics technology; people are creating complicated robots on a whim (ie I felt like having a replacement in class to save time so I made one); robotics is in a state where humanlike movements can be readily recreated.

      You might not be interested in this robot because it doesn't learn, but you are talking about a completely different domain. Aren't you at least interested in the fact that, once the abilities you are interested in are fully developed, we already have a working body to plug them into? Furthermore, we don't need to make the robot fully autonomous for it to have interesting cognitive abilities -the robot could be made to do certain cognitive activities on its own. For example, the professor, working remotely, clicks on an object in the robots visual display -a pen, let's say. The robot then has its computer vision kick in -notices the object is a pen, then its grasp-pen procedure kicks in. This is blending the cognition of the professor with that of the robot. It leaves the decision making and high level planning up to the professor, who initiates the action with only a click*, then the robot engages in the lower level cognitive acts. Cool, right? Well, we already have all the technology to make this a possibility. But, you need the robot to plug it into first!

      *with a click, is basically how our mind works. We pick a location in space, and then consciously decide to grasp for it -the rest is an unconscious grasping protocol directed at that region in space -you don't have to consciously control your action, you jsut think about what action you are doing and where.
    2. Re:Not impressed. by Mathus · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind this design is not a way to "replace" the professor with something that acts autonomously. It is built to be a tele-commuting way to do your job. I for one think it would be great if instead of driving to work each day I could just step into a "VR room" (patent pending) and it would activate an android in my office to mimic my every move. If it could provide feedback such as sight and sound and I controlled its every move I could do my job from house. If you can eveuntaully make the able to walk and balance it would replace workers taking risk in "high-risk jobs such as having firefighters putting on VR suits to do thier job. They get the feedback and make all teh desicisions, they just don't have the risk of losing their life if something goes bad. Now I would not reccomend human controlled androids in security situations because you do not want your police officer or soldier hijacked by a hacker, but as a danger unit for bomb diposal, fires, or search and rescue this would be great.

  30. The Future by bigtimepie · · Score: 1

    I have seen the future, and it is robot pr0n!

  31. Robot professors by CtrlPhreak · · Score: 1

    This is something new? Obviously you never took engineering at Penn State, we've got loads of them, just step into a classroom. The administration swears they're human but I'm not believing it...

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    1. Re:Robot professors by BCW2 · · Score: 1

      They cloned them from the ones at New Mexico State in the early 80's.

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  32. avatar by rucs_hack · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Aside from improving his android's lip synchronization and developing autonomous control of eye gaze, Ishiguro wants to start interacting with students through Geminoid."

    Which makes this an avatar. He provides the essential interactive elements which would make it appealing to students (he seems to hope).

    Psychologists may find something interesting here, being the way humans relate to this 'once removed' human presence.

    When I was a kid in australia we had some friends who lived a long way away in the outback. Their kids attended school by Radio sometimes (perhaps all the time, I don't recall, this was over thirty years ago). A teacher who had a local presence might be an interesting extension of that basic idea. It's virtually the same thing as radio in this context, but more advanced.

    What might be good is to use such a device to interact with people who are severely disabled. A system capable of translating the teachers actions into stimuli useful for the particuler student would have a lot of advantages. That way one teacher could interact with a class full of students with varying needs, where their own version of the Avatar translates to their needs.

    1. Re:avatar by KURAAKU+Deibiddo · · Score: 1

      Your post reminded me of a movie I'd seen, although it took me forever to remember the title so I could reference it on here. (Thank you, keyword search.)

      The Japanese film Hinokio is about a reclusive wheelchair-ridden boy whose father builds him a robotic avatar which he can control from his room, which he uses to attend school, etc. [Wikipedia has a longer summary; I'm trying to stay spoiler-free.]

      I thought it was a fairly interesting film, and if the technology is there for a robotic-avatar teacher, perhaps someday there will be robotic-avatar students.

  33. The State of the Art meets the Art of the State by NetSettler · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let me guess--the only clues that it's a robot are that it has a permanently painted on smirk, its eyes don't seem quite focused, there's a square access panel on its back (the door to which makes a visible outline even over a suit jacket in debates), it gets tired late at night when its battery runs down, it is overly touchy-feely with German diplomats and bald people, ... and, of course, it requires a human to operate it from an "undisclosed location".

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    1. Re:The State of the Art meets the Art of the State by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's a perfect match for the next presidency of the United States! :)

  34. Apologies to Wernher von Braun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think Asians won't be obsolete for a while, if only because we can mass-produce them using unskilled labor.

  35. But it's not autonomous, right? by sean.peters · · Score: 1

    Perhaps I misread TFA, but my impression was that this was really some sort of telepresence. How does it save you any time, if you have to be wired up to some control system for the robot to make all these lifelike motions, and you have to pay attention to the meeting to be able to speak intelligently if called upon? You might as well just be physically present.

    It would be different if there was travel involved - then you would at least save the time of going to the meeting. But for local events, this seems like overkill. It's just a very expensive form of telecommunting.

    Sean

    1. Re:But it's not autonomous, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and tfa says that the school in which he lectures is an hour's drive away.

      mystery solved.

    2. Re:But it's not autonomous, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps I misread TFA
      Perhaps you didn't Read The Fucking Article at all. Why have you claimed otherwise?

      "it runs on semiautonomous motion programs" - Meaning many mimicing actions are autonomous. Sure, a telepresence is still required.

      "Ishiguro, whose job is teaching at Osaka University, an hour's drive away" - An hour each way sounds like travel to me.

      "open up a market of remote androids for hire -- rent a robot in Paris or Pago Pago"

      Anyway, this is a research area. He's done it for his own reasons, which are stated in TFA.

  36. The point of the robot... by Vellmont · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think a lot of people are really missing the point of what this robot is supposed to do. There's a lot of comments about how the robot itself isn't autonomous and has no intelligence. That's not at all the role that the robot is supposed to fill.

    The robot is supposed to simply project the presence of the professor remotely. Obviously we can do that to some degree with just a two way television hookup, but it's not like being in the room. You can't point at students and interact with them through a flat display. You can't change where the camera is pointing, and the students don't really know what the professor can see.

    I think the biggest thing that this robot is missing is "gaze". If you ask me, the single distinguishing feature of presence is making eye contact. As someone pointed out, it doesn't look like there's actually any cameras in the eyes of this robot, so the actual professor can't see what the robot is "looking" at. If the robot could have gaze, reproduce facial expressions, and even replicate hand gestures, I think that would go a long way to having remote presence.

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    1. Re:The point of the robot... by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      "You can't point at students and interact with them through a flat display."

      Sure you can. Just see where the student is in the room and point at that imaginary location. The viewing class will figure it out. Oh, call the student's name.

      "You can't change where the camera is pointing, and the students don't really know what the professor can see."

      That's even a more of a "sure". Have a joy stick.

      It's done all the time now.

      Just what is the need for a remote "presence" greater than a large screen with a camera mounted on top? It's not like this will actually "fool" anyone.

  37. Sealab 2021 by jwocky · · Score: 1

    Stormy: okay, so what if i put my brain in a robot body, and then there was a war between robots and humans, which side would i be on?

    Debbie: humans! you still have a human brain

    Sparks: but the humans would discriminate against you. you cant even vote!

    Marco Rodrigo: man, we better not have to live on reservations, that would really chap my caboose!

  38. Hey Professor... by spun · · Score: 1

    What's another word for pirate treasure?

    [voice= Twiki's Girlfriend]
    Well I think it's Booty Booty Booty!
    [/voice]

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  39. Yes, but... by daemonc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does it dream of electric sheep?

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  40. Ummm... by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    ...there really isn't a whole lot of difference between what he's done and the classic Animatronics pioneered by the conservative state Disneyland in California. In other news, I posted my reasons for why I think humanoid androids are a dead end and they apply just as well here.

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  41. Related? by westcoaster004 · · Score: 1

    Is this "Robot Professor" in any way related to "Video Professor"?

  42. Are there any video clips? by antdude · · Score: 1

    Are there any videos clip of this android in action?

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    1. Re:Are there any video clips? by se7en11 · · Score: 1
      Here's a small 17 second clip that appears to be the same thing.


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    2. Re:Are there any video clips? by loljews · · Score: 0

      Before you listen to any more drivel by 'AntDude [slashdot.org]', take a look at who you're dealing with: http://pbx.mine.nu/antdude.jpg [pbx.mine.nu]. The abortion in the center is 'AntDude'. I won't even get into discussion about him listing his 'sex' as 'female' on his SHITTY 'blog' (aqfl.net [aqfl.net]). This faggot has nothing better to do than sit on the internet and spew worthless garbage. He's the new LostCluster [slashdot.org] when it comes to posting utterly worthless tripe. Not to mention his submitted stories! Every single one of his last 10 or so submissions have been tagged as 'lame' or 'slownewsday'. Why does taco even bother posting his shit. Maybe he gets some tiny deformed chinese cock up his taco ass in exchange for some linkspam with google ads? Do the world a favor and never reply to comments from ANTDUDE and mark him as a FOE [slashdot.org].

  43. Don't forget to turn it off by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Have you ever gone to a lecture where the speaker forgets to turn off his wireless mike and then does or says something embarassing like for example taking a bowel movement in the bathroom while the entire lecture hall listens in?

    Now imagine "roboting in" from home to give your lecture, then forgetting to turn it off before you did something else you might do in your home. Maybe burst out into a Numa-Numa rendition, Starwars fight with your dog, or spank the monkey.

    I'm sure it will happen when these "presence" avatars become ubiquitous.

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    1. Re:Don't forget to turn it off by Ambush+Commander · · Score: 1

      No, but I've had it happen in a theater context (actors are playing video games in the back room, but the mikes aren't off so it's broadcasting into the auditorium).

  44. It's a Bloody Puppet by se7en11 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the Artcle's picture section:

    "A Geminoid operator wears motion-tracking lip markers. When the operator moves his mouth, Geminoid's lips make the same movement. A speaker inside the android lets the robotic double be heard."

    And best said by one of the comments below the picture section:

    "It's not even an android. It's all puppet and that all it is. If you have to have an operator in a back room running the thing, it doesn't even qualify as a robot, much less an "android"..... Oh, and Jim Hensen is dead, so his opinion doesn't matter. Mark Cannistraci"

  45. Be more realistic by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
    Does he (the robot) hit on female students?

    Is he (the robot) good enough to only hit on the really hot ones (infrared sensors)?

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  46. So what are you going to do about it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just don't want to live in such a world.

    You might not have many choices. Apart from suicide, of course. I really don't recommend that. Why not try to come to terms with the age we live in?

  47. Kiln people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Forget robot selves to do my bidding, I want Kiln People.

  48. It _can_ answer questions. by Spaceman40 · · Score: 1
    The only negative is that it can't answer questions,...
    The article notes that it's not pre-recorded, it's live. The ultimate form of telecommuting.
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  49. Why not use Super Dave Osborne? by Microsift · · Score: 1

    He's the best avatar ever.

    If you don't get it you're not watching the right show

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  50. Strange -no one ever mentioned "Pacem in Terris" by smalgin · · Score: 1

    A book "Pacem in Terris" by S. Lem is actually quite comprehensive on a matter of remotely controlled androids. ______________________ So... no mod points in this thread

  51. The salvation for all married couples by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finally, we can all go golfing while our android puts up with our wive's nagging! The best of both worlds!

    1. Re:The salvation for all married couples by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget 'and our wife can get it to last more than five minutes and actually get some satisfaction instead of spending all day reading romance novels and getting personal time with 'her little friend'. :)

  52. Could be useful for people with disabilities by cybernanga · · Score: 1

    None of the comments so far have mentioned this, but I just had a thought. In several cases of "paralysis", the brain is still sending out messages, but either the muscles have atripohed, or the nerves have been severed, or have deteriorated. Could this "Robot" not be used in such cases? Obviously, a lot of work will have to go into the "Brain -> Robot" interface, but I think that it could be useful. There is a story I read somewhere about a young man, who can move a mouse pointer on screen using just his mind, haveing undergone an implan operation. If the tech can be worked out, many people would appreciate it, as it would allow them to lead a fuller more active life than just sitting in a bed/chair. Coupled with an ambulatory body, and at least one functioning arm, I think this should be seriously persued.

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