'defined "user Products".. anything that goes in the home. So business-style rack appliances.. can Tivo-ize at their leisure.. This seems....messy, and a huge potential hole'
'Products that are commonly used for personal as well as commercial purposes are consumer products, even if the person invoking rights is a commercial entity intending to use the product for commercial purposes', rationale.pdf
'what if the third party you make a deal with isn't in the business of distributing software?'
Well then they won't be liable for selling any infringing code will they !!
'none of it -- not one word -- is dedicated to selling the journalist on the quality of Microsoft's products'
RickRussellTX
'they know that.. that he wouldn't be interested in hearing about'
Maybe it's because they know thay can't sell the product on merit. It shows they spend more time on spinning the issue and FUDding the opposition than actually writing code. Which explains the lack of quality in the product.
'Waggener Edstrom, reported it would meet with "a lot of editors" regarding MS-DOS 5.0 in 1990, and:.. 'informally' plant the bug of FUD in their ears'
'After seeing the original article, I contacted Lenovo and they said the same thing'
I just contacted Lenovo on 08705 500 900, 1, 1 regarding hardware warranty and they said there would be no change in the warranty as long as I didn't change the hardware. He did say that if I altered the recovery partition then I would be responsible for the software changes. Fair enough.
Obviously if the one-button solution is altered they can't supply telephone tech support on the software. But then If you are capable of installing Linux you can most certainly make your own recovery partition.
was Re:Lenovo said the same, also Dell in-home service
Having people come round to your home, post images and sneering references to your religion does not constitute WAY oversensitive. You yourself, are a prime example of what's wrong with online forums.
Ahh, I see, Mozilla uninstaller used to delete your entire harddrive if you selected to install in C:\ and not choose the default installation directory.
From: emacsuser To: Rob Malda Subject: posts stuck in pending.. -------
To: emacsuser From: "Rob Malda" Subject: Re: posts stuck in pending..
'all stories are now basically permanently on 'pending'. they are forever available for other users to inspect...' -------
From: emacsuser To: Rob Malda Subject: posts stuck in pending..'
'Like for instance where are Zonks or kdawsons pending recent submissions that I can inspect..', ------- To: emacsuser From: "Rob Malda" Subject: Re: posts stuck in pending..
'yeah we'll work on fixing it... but we've totally rebuilt the submissions code & process, so its a bit off for now' -------
Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Monday March 26, @10:11PM Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Monday March 26, @10:56PM Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Tuesday March 27, @03:54AM Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @01:50PM Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @02:31PM Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @03:11PM Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @03:53PM Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @04:29PM Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @05:09PM Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @05:50PM Posted by kdawson on Monday March 26, @11:41PM Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @01:04PM Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @01:45AM Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @02:49AM Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @05:01AM Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @07:45AM Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @10:33AM Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @12:37AM
'There were stories about how Mozilla's uninstaller would delete your entire harddrive based due to exactly that option.. What would happen is that people would install Mozilla to "C:\"'
What stories, where did you see these references to Mozilla deleting the C:\ directory? Well with Firefox 2.0.0.3 unless you select Custom, then it installs to C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox. Selecting Custom and C:\ and this msg pops up. Even under Win98 it still won't allow you to install to C:\
'You don't have access write to the installation directory
Click OK to select a different directory'
'manned spaceflight will come to an end with the end of the ISS'
The trouble is that an Astronaut in a spacesuit can't actually do a lot. For an example, put on a pair of boxing gloves and try and wire a three pin plug.
--
Malda: why are my posts stuck in pending for ages..
'they do something similar for a second.. and even act like it's their ground philosophy'
Now that they have figured out that they can't kill open source through the pollution of open standards, they pretend to engage with it so as they can steal back mind share and subvert it from the inside. To the general public MS = computers, so it would odd that advances were happening elsewhere the MS wasn't involved in. Gets Microsoft and Open in the same sentence, get it. Watch out for a joint Open Source company + MS conference. Oh, wait..:)
'we at Microsoft believe that we have to enable those open standards'
'One strategy is to jump on the Java bandwagon and try and take control of the class libraries and runtime'
'Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Lets move on and steal the Java language'
'Outlook will not run propedy on top of GroupWise 5.1 because it uses/expects unknown MAPI calls/parameters. We have asked our normal Microsoft contacts for assistance in getting this to work.. We have been unsuccessful at getting the additional information to add support for Outlook in our MAPI service providers'
'If the application is written in Java, the Microsoft Virtual Machine for Java will be the default VM'
was Re:Programming whiz?'We go nuclear and release our own WBT spec, press release with our own OEMs, and directly counter the Intel spec'
Innovating Iexplorer by cloning Netscape..
I think we should have to do even more cloning (esp. LiveScript) of Netscape
Innovating msOffice by stealing features from ClarisWorks..
Our biggest competitor. We should remove all reasons anybody might have for sticking with this product rather than upgrade to Office. What
features do we need to steal?
Ok, I just saw the video. Attacker, victim, third party wireless card, interact with bytecode device driver. Oh and I notice that the video is sponsored by - Microsoft.
But what did they expect to happen. Why didn't they first privately inform Apple and then if no action was taken go public. Two security researchers in search of the glory announce an Apple exploit. The Apple PR dept goes into overdrive and spins the issue. What did you expect from the PR dept of a major corporation - the truth. Welcome to the real world.
'In 2004, financial group HSBC launched an initiative to reduce the cost of supporting 300,000 desktop computers by 20 percent through rigorous standardization. To help achieve this goal, the company deployed Microsoft ® System Center solutions as an integral part of its new environment. Microsoft Systems Management Server 2003 facilitates centralized software deployment, roaming user desktops, and the ability to track software usage to the individual user'
'To date, HSBC has realized an estimated U.S.$50 million to $75 million reduction in annual costs--expected to increase to $100 million by the time deployment of the new desktop standard is finished at the end of 2007
How can you save money by spending it on another system to help you manage a system that is supposed to be easily managed in the first place - Active Directory.
How does the Windows environment have a lower TCO than Linux. Do they have keep the Linux admins in a separate part of the building. Aren't they allowed to admin the Windows boxes. Do they cost more. Do the Linux updates take longer.
'The studies show that the genetically superior corn protects against rootworm'
Won't the rootworm beetle acquire resistance to this trait in the long run. According to this, you have to plant a ring of non-GM corn in order to prevent such a thing, and you still have to use insecticide.
'allowing farmers to produce more grain from the same amount of land'
Can the farmers reuse seeds from their own crop or must they buy new seeds every year. Will non-GM corm be banned as 'uncertified'.
'And what if the studies do show that the corn is harmful to rats if they're fed it exclusively?'
Well it means that feeding them GM corn for 90 days caused organ damage. A human eating lower doses for years is highly likely to get the same results. Assuming my Googling skills are up to scratch, it's to do with the toxin Cry3Bb1 protein introduced into the corn to kill rootworm beetle. It's supposed to be safe for mammals. According to this it is an artificial form of Bacillus thuringiensis also used as an insecticide.
'Neither humans nor cows are raised exclusively on corn, so rat studies have to show a big difference in rat health before any action is taken on them'
Ok, lets feed you exclusivly on GM corn for 90 days and get back to us. Why not include your whole family as well. Ask the family across the street to eat non GM corn as a control
Sorry, never heard of you up to now. This reminds me of the kind of protests we get a certain self appointed commentator regarding OSS zealots and how he has to sleep with a gun under his pillow after criticising 'Linux'. The fact is the big money is in denying global warming and it is those who affirm this that have been pressured into silence.
The function of such alarmist FUD is a cynical attempt to paint your opponents with what you are. It's my disinterested opinion that the 'climate change' isn't happening crowd, realising they haven't a leg to stand on, have resorted to the argumentum ad personam. That is when you can't attack your opponents views attack his integrity.
The pressure for such total information awareness is really coming from the US administration who sees the best defence against the terrorist threat to establish a buffer zone between it and what it sees as the gap, parts of the world where pax Americana can never be established. Of course it's ironic that in the quest for the defence of 'democracy' us here in the core will actually have to give up our own freedoms. And there is a flaw in such a strategy in that the 'disruptive perturbations' won't necessarly stay behide the firewall and uniteral action will shrink the gap.
'As globalization deepens and spreads, two groups of states are essentially pitted against one another: countries seeking to align their internal rule sets with the emerging global rule set.. I dub the former countries the Functioning Core of globalization, the latter the Non-Integrating Gap'
Of course there is another reading of the terrorist threat agenda. That being after the end of the cold war, the US needed a new pretext for militarily occupying those areas of the planet where it has a vital resources. It also gives the state a pretext for spying on its own citizens. To do that you have to get the people scared and keep them scared.
Yes I know there are real terrorists, but we here in the UK have been subjected to acts at least on par with 9/11. Two of the worst were Lockerbie and the attempt to assassinate the entire UK Cabinet. But the gov never saw fit to cancel democracy. How can you defend freedom by giving it up.
I think OSS/GPL offers the best protection for commercial companies. Any closed source company producing a sucessful product runs the risk of it being cloned and given away by you-know-who in the next version of Windows. If you uses someone elses closed developement tools you are always at risk of the upsteam supplier arbitrarily changing the 'licensing' rules or keep changing the formats/protocols in an attempt to keep lockin. Finally you don't really own the product you are trying to sell.
With OSS/GPL you get the benefit of a huge developer community. You take out and give back. You make your money out of selling hardware and support. If the elephant comes after you to 'partner', he can't as there is no product to buy and remove from the ecosystem.. sorry monoculture.
Finally as an end user, once a closed source company has all your records on propriatery formats and your network runs on propriatery protocols, you don't own your own company anymore.
'it should also backup your personal documents to that partition so the user doesn't lose any data'
As on this system, the users data is on a seperate partition. But then important data would be backed up off site. Who would be stupid enough to keep nine months of data on the C: drive with no backups. Well er.. the average home user.
'no manufacturer in their right mind would ever think that a recovery partition would be the solution to their "tech support" and infrastructure problem'
The so called "tech support" offered to the home user is non-existant. Call centers in some third world country staffed by staff with almost two weeks 'training' who read from a crib sheet. Manufacturers only offer real tech support to the corporate accounts, where the real money is.
Offering such tech support is a public relations exercise. But then who really pays for this. Microsoft, Dell or me if I sell a box to a small business. From what I remember from working in a small computer business, we sell them the box and go back in three times in several months to 'fix' it - at no cost. At roughly $200 an hour that would work out at $1,000 worth of free tech support. So basically I buy a PC from Bill and Michael and then go back in and fix it for free. That's one way of getting rich.
'Ultimately, there will be users who will refuse to simply "recover" their system from a partition'
How can you talk someone through reinstalling TCP/IP, who can't insert a CD into the computer and click on 'INSTALL'. Or someone who enters his own phone number into 'dialup networking' and keeps getting busy.
'they will need to setup call-centers prepared to handle Linux problems. They'll need to create tons of help-files for the call-centers to use', Grinin
There's only one thing more futile than phoning a call center, that is working in one. What's needed is a hidden recovery partition that can be activated with a single click.
'Rescue and Recovery is a one button recovery and restore solution that includes a set of self recovery tools to help users diagnose, get help and recover from a virus or other system crashes'
'there has been no discussion of linux or Mac replacing windows, the discussions are about not upgrading to Vista'
He does seem to say he is considering replacing the desktops with thin clients running Google apps on a server. Unless you can get him to publish a msg saying he never said this.
"In an interview, FAA chief information officer David Bowen said he's taking a close look at the Premier Edition of Google Apps.. It takes the desktop out of the way so you're running a very thin client. From a security and management standpoint that would have some advantages."
Why were they considering threatening to cancel Mac Office. Who first proposed threatening to cancel Mac Office.
'The threat to Cancel Mac Office 97 is certainly the strongest bargaining point we have, as doing so will do a great deal of harm to Apple immediately'
'defined "user Products" .. anything that goes in the home. So business-style rack appliances .. can Tivo-ize at their leisure .. This seems....messy, and a huge potential hole'
.. Re:Quick issues
'Products that are commonly used for personal as well as commercial purposes are consumer products, even if the person invoking rights is a commercial entity intending to use the product for commercial purposes', rationale.pdf
'what if the third party you make a deal with isn't in the business of distributing software?'
Well then they won't be liable for selling any infringing code will they !!
was
'My freedom ends at the tip of your nose'
How would you feel if I demanded royalty payments for your Linux desktop that you didn't buy from me.
'they know that
Maybe it's because they know thay can't sell the product on merit. It shows they spend more time on spinning the issue and FUDding the opposition than actually writing code. Which explains the lack of quality in the product.
'Waggener Edstrom, reported it would meet with "a lot of editors" regarding MS-DOS 5.0 in 1990, and: .. 'informally' plant the bug of FUD in their ears'
'After seeing the original article, I contacted Lenovo and they said the same thing'
I just contacted Lenovo on 08705 500 900, 1, 1 regarding hardware warranty and they said there would be no change in the warranty as long as I didn't change the hardware. He did say that if I altered the recovery partition then I would be responsible for the software changes. Fair enough.
Obviously if the one-button solution is altered they can't supply telephone tech support on the software. But then If you are capable of installing Linux you can most certainly make your own recovery partition.
was Re:Lenovo said the same, also Dell in-home service
Having people come round to your home, post images and sneering references to your religion does not constitute WAY oversensitive. You yourself, are a prime example of what's wrong with online forums.
.. Re:This is coming from a chick
was
'Well, specifically, on Slashdot...'
.. Re:Mozilla deletes C:\ ..
Ahh, I see, Mozilla uninstaller used to delete your entire harddrive if you selected to install in C:\ and not choose the default installation directory.
was
From: emacsuser ..
..
..'
..', ..
To: Rob Malda
Subject: posts stuck in pending
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To: emacsuser
From: "Rob Malda"
Subject: Re: posts stuck in pending
'all stories are now basically permanently on 'pending'. they are
forever available for other users to inspect...'
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From: emacsuser
To: Rob Malda
Subject: posts stuck in pending
'Like for instance where are Zonks or kdawsons pending recent
submissions that I can inspect
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To: emacsuser
From: "Rob Malda"
Subject: Re: posts stuck in pending
'yeah we'll work on fixing it... but we've totally rebuilt the
submissions code & process, so its a bit off for now'
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Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Monday March 26, @10:11PM
Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Monday March 26, @10:56PM
Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Tuesday March 27, @03:54AM
Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @01:50PM
Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @02:31PM
Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @03:11PM
Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @03:53PM
Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @04:29PM
Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @05:09PM
Posted by Zonk on Tuesday March 27, @05:50PM
Posted by kdawson on Monday March 26, @11:41PM
Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @01:04PM
Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @01:45AM
Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @02:49AM
Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @05:01AM
Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @07:45AM
Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @10:33AM
Posted by kdawson on Tuesday March 27, @12:37AM
'There were stories about how Mozilla's uninstaller would delete your entire harddrive based due to exactly that option .. What would happen is that people would install Mozilla to "C:\"'
..
.. Re:Not XP's fault (Score:4, Informative)
What stories, where did you see these references to Mozilla deleting the C:\ directory? Well with Firefox 2.0.0.3 unless you select Custom, then it installs to C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox. Selecting Custom and C:\ and this msg pops up. Even under Win98 it still won't allow you to install to C:\
'You don't have access write to the installation directory Click OK to select a different directory'
C:\DOS, C:\DOS RUN, RUN DOS RUN
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was
'manned spaceflight will come to an end with the end of the ISS'
..
The trouble is that an Astronaut in a spacesuit can't actually do a lot. For an example, put on a pair of boxing gloves and try and wire a three pin plug.
--
Malda: why are my posts stuck in pending for ages
'they do something similar for a second .. and even act like it's their ground philosophy'
.. :)
Now that they have figured out that they can't kill open source through the pollution of open standards, they pretend to engage with it so as they can steal back mind share and subvert it from the inside. To the general public MS = computers, so it would odd that advances were happening elsewhere the MS wasn't involved in. Gets Microsoft and Open in the same sentence, get it. Watch out for a joint Open Source company + MS conference. Oh, wait
was Re:MS and standards
'we at Microsoft believe that we have to enable those open standards'
.. We have been unsuccessful at getting the additional information to add support for Outlook in our MAPI service providers'
'One strategy is to jump on the Java bandwagon and try and take control of the class libraries and runtime'
'Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Lets move on and steal the Java language'
'Outlook will not run propedy on top of GroupWise 5.1 because it uses/expects unknown MAPI calls/parameters. We have asked our normal Microsoft contacts for assistance in getting this to work
'If the application is written in Java, the Microsoft Virtual Machine for Java will be the default VM'
he and Allen wrote BASIC for the MITS Altair 8800 by scratch
More like cloned a version of DECUS BASIC Gates obtained from a DEC users group. They wrote it on DEC PDP-8/L at the Lakeside school.
'what exactly was Billy boy so good at'
..
..
..
..
Innovating Windows by analysing the Mac system
'we should be analysing the Mac system as it evolves and improves and innovating what makes sense'
Innovating the NetPC, by copying it
was Re:Programming whiz? 'We go nuclear and release our own WBT spec, press release with our own OEMs, and directly counter the Intel spec'
Innovating Iexplorer by cloning Netscape
I think we should have to do even more cloning (esp. LiveScript) of Netscape
Innovating msOffice by stealing features from ClarisWorks
Our biggest competitor. We should remove all reasons anybody might have for sticking with this product rather than upgrade to Office. What features do we need to steal?
Ok, I just saw the video. Attacker, victim, third party wireless card, interact with bytecode device driver. Oh and I notice that the video is sponsored by - Microsoft.
But what did they expect to happen. Why didn't they first privately inform Apple and then if no action was taken go public. Two security researchers in search of the glory announce an Apple exploit. The Apple PR dept goes into overdrive and spins the issue. What did you expect from the PR dept of a major corporation - the truth. Welcome to the real world.
'In 2004, financial group HSBC launched an initiative to reduce the cost of supporting 300,000 desktop computers by 20 percent through rigorous standardization. To help achieve this goal, the company deployed Microsoft ® System Center solutions as an integral part of its new environment. Microsoft Systems Management Server 2003 facilitates centralized software deployment, roaming user desktops, and the ability to track software usage to the individual user'
'To date, HSBC has realized an estimated U.S.$50 million to $75 million reduction in annual costs--expected to increase to $100 million by the time deployment of the new desktop standard is finished at the end of 2007
How can you save money by spending it on another system to help you manage a system that is supposed to be easily managed in the first place - Active Directory.
How does the Windows environment have a lower TCO than Linux. Do they have keep the Linux admins in a separate part of the building. Aren't they allowed to admin the Windows boxes. Do they cost more. Do the Linux updates take longer.
'The studies show that the genetically superior corn protects against rootworm'
Won't the rootworm beetle acquire resistance to this trait in the long run. According to this, you have to plant a ring of non-GM corn in order to prevent such a thing, and you still have to use insecticide.
'allowing farmers to produce more grain from the same amount of land'
Can the farmers reuse seeds from their own crop or must they buy new seeds every year. Will non-GM corm be banned as 'uncertified'.
'And what if the studies do show that the corn is harmful to rats if they're fed it exclusively?'
Well it means that feeding them GM corn for 90 days caused organ damage. A human eating lower doses for years is highly likely to get the same results. Assuming my Googling skills are up to scratch, it's to do with the toxin Cry3Bb1 protein introduced into the corn to kill rootworm beetle. It's supposed to be safe for mammals. According to this it is an artificial form of Bacillus thuringiensis also used as an insecticide.
'Neither humans nor cows are raised exclusively on corn, so rat studies have to show a big difference in rat health before any action is taken on them'
Ok, lets feed you exclusivly on GM corn for 90 days and get back to us. Why not include your whole family as well. Ask the family across the street to eat non GM corn as a control
was: Greepeace values rats over humans
Sorry, never heard of you up to now. This reminds me of the kind of protests we get a certain self appointed commentator regarding OSS zealots and how he has to sleep with a gun under his pillow after criticising 'Linux'. The fact is the big money is in denying global warming and it is those who affirm this that have been pressured into silence.
The function of such alarmist FUD is a cynical attempt to paint your opponents with what you are. It's my disinterested opinion that the 'climate change' isn't happening crowd, realising they haven't a leg to stand on, have resorted to the argumentum ad personam. That is when you can't attack your opponents views attack his integrity.
The pressure for such total information awareness is really coming from the US administration who sees the best defence against the terrorist threat to establish a buffer zone between it and what it sees as the gap, parts of the world where pax Americana can never be established. Of course it's ironic that in the quest for the defence of 'democracy' us here in the core will actually have to give up our own freedoms. And there is a flaw in such a strategy in that the 'disruptive perturbations' won't necessarly stay behide the firewall and uniteral action will shrink the gap.
.. I dub the former countries the Functioning Core of globalization, the latter the Non-Integrating Gap'
'As globalization deepens and spreads, two groups of states are essentially pitted against one another: countries seeking to align their internal rule sets with the emerging global rule set
Of course there is another reading of the terrorist threat agenda. That being after the end of the cold war, the US needed a new pretext for militarily occupying those areas of the planet where it has a vital resources. It also gives the state a pretext for spying on its own citizens. To do that you have to get the people scared and keep them scared.
Yes I know there are real terrorists, but we here in the UK have been subjected to acts at least on par with 9/11. Two of the worst were Lockerbie and the attempt to assassinate the entire UK Cabinet. But the gov never saw fit to cancel democracy. How can you defend freedom by giving it up.
I think OSS/GPL offers the best protection for commercial companies. Any closed source company producing a sucessful product runs the risk of it being cloned and given away by you-know-who in the next version of Windows. If you uses someone elses closed developement tools you are always at risk of the upsteam supplier arbitrarily changing the 'licensing' rules or keep changing the formats/protocols in an attempt to keep lockin. Finally you don't really own the product you are trying to sell.
.. sorry monoculture.
With OSS/GPL you get the benefit of a huge developer community. You take out and give back. You make your money out of selling hardware and support. If the elephant comes after you to 'partner', he can't as there is no product to buy and remove from the ecosystem
Finally as an end user, once a closed source company has all your records on propriatery formats and your network runs on propriatery protocols, you don't own your own company anymore.
'it should also backup your personal documents to that partition so the user doesn't lose any data'
.. the average home user.
As on this system, the users data is on a seperate partition. But then important data would be backed up off site. Who would be stupid enough to keep nine months of data on the C: drive with no backups. Well er
'no manufacturer in their right mind would ever think that a recovery partition would be the solution to their "tech support" and infrastructure problem'
The so called "tech support" offered to the home user is non-existant. Call centers in some third world country staffed by staff with almost two weeks 'training' who read from a crib sheet. Manufacturers only offer real tech support to the corporate accounts, where the real money is.
Offering such tech support is a public relations exercise. But then who really pays for this. Microsoft, Dell or me if I sell a box to a small business. From what I remember from working in a small computer business, we sell them the box and go back in three times in several months to 'fix' it - at no cost. At roughly $200 an hour that would work out at $1,000 worth of free tech support. So basically I buy a PC from Bill and Michael and then go back in and fix it for free. That's one way of getting rich.
'Ultimately, there will be users who will refuse to simply "recover" their system from a partition'
How can you talk someone through reinstalling TCP/IP, who can't insert a CD into the computer and click on 'INSTALL'. Or someone who enters his own phone number into 'dialup networking' and keeps getting busy.
Last summer, Lenovo agreed to preload Novell Inc.'s SLED 10 (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop) on its ThinkPad T60p mobile workstation.
Then, Lenovo started retreating, and hemming that they really didn't mean that they would offer it pre-installed
Lenovo recommends Windows Vista(TM) Business for business computing.
'they will need to setup call-centers prepared to handle Linux problems. They'll need to create tons of help-files for the call-centers to use', Grinin
There's only one thing more futile than phoning a call center, that is working in one. What's needed is a hidden recovery partition that can be activated with a single click.
'Rescue and Recovery is a one button recovery and restore solution that includes a set of self recovery tools to help users diagnose, get help and recover from a virus or other system crashes'
was Re:still some bumps...
'there has been no discussion of linux or Mac replacing windows, the discussions are about not upgrading to Vista'
.. It takes the desktop out of the way so you're running a very thin client. From a security and management standpoint that would have some advantages."
He does seem to say he is considering replacing the desktops with thin clients running Google apps on a server. Unless you can get him to publish a msg saying he never said this.
"In an interview, FAA chief information officer David Bowen said he's taking a close look at the Premier Edition of Google Apps
Will never happen (Score:4, Informative)
Why were they considering threatening to cancel Mac Office. Who first proposed threatening to cancel Mac Office.
'The threat to Cancel Mac Office 97 is certainly the strongest bargaining point we have, as doing so will do a great deal of harm to Apple immediately'
Email Communications (Score:5, Interesting)