I said nothing stupid, suffer no delusions and didn't backpedal one step. As far as bigotry, there was nothing even like it in my postings let alone sub human.
I mean seriously, how was I "cornered"? I wasn't. In response to somebody else's question I gave my reasoning for opting not to vote for a person based on those he chooses to surround himself with. Apart form the fact that that wasn't addressed to you, you apparently didn't even bother to inform yourself what the post was about before posting an ignorant trolling response
It's really sad how annoying and pathetic you wingnuts are. I mean is lying all you're truly capable of?
Are you saying that it is right that OJ got away with it? OJ was charged with murder. The fact that he got away with it was a failure of the prosecutors, not a political agenda. Political agendas are what I'm saying is driving the attacks on the Prez. Pointing out that it was OK when others did proves that point. Try to keep up!
Except that it was never ok when others did it. That's the deep flaw in your reasoning. That's why what you're saying does boil down to saying that since somebody got away with something before nobody can be held responsible for the same thing now. Making up shit does nothing to aid your point. Your strawman skills are pathetic.
Do you have no sense of history?
No, I don't have no sense of history.
Did you not see the presidential limo being pelted with snowballs on the way Bush's first inauguration?
So your point is that the media was throwing snowballs? Good one. Those were citizens of this country expressing their disapproval of the president. That's a good thing.
Bush won every single count, recount, public recount, private recount and even won after the rules kept changing to favor Al Gore.
Wrong, Bucko. In a full statewide recount (which is really the only thing that should have even been attempted) Gore won. Bush won more of the various crappy recounts that Gore was going for, but in the full statewide recount, Gore won. That's a fact which you're welcome to look up. Alternatively you can keep spouting bullshit. Now, Gore never requested that because he was trying to pull a bullshit move as opposed to trying to ascertain the actual will of the people as represented by the ballots they cast, which is an example of a completely fucked up attitude and would form the basis of an argument. You didn't choose to do that. You chose to lie about basic publicly available facts instead. That says a lot about you and the position you're feebly trying to defend.
went downhill from there until Sept 2001.
Yes, due to his increasingly obvious incompetence and his contempt for America and the American citizens.
Of course, we know that Bush got favorable ratings for about a year after 9-11, but then it went back to where it was on 9-10 and has dropped ever since.
Indeed. That is the disapproval of the people for a leader who has demonstrated no positive qualities whatsoever. That is *in spite* of the complete ass kissing and blatant *selling* of the war by *all* of the major media outlets.
The Iraq war has been one of the most successful operations in history. The Iraqi war is unpopular because of the media's reporting of it.
No, that's not the case at all. The initial invasion was quite "successful" in the same way you'd be successful if you tried to kick a crippled kid in the face. Largely it is due to the deeply dishonest and downright treasonous manner in which he sold what was, is and will remain nothing but a hare brained scheme for world domination as laid out in the 2000 PNAC document "Rebuilding America's Defenses". That document even included the idea of misusing an attack on America to mislead the American people into the attack. So, sorry, but you are dead fucking wrong about that. Some of us are actually informed and don't rely on the bullshit complicit US media. Nice job repeating idiotic wingnut talking points though. Do you get a gold star for that or something?
Before the war, the chant was "Al Qaeda is not in Iraq".
Which was true.
Now that Al Qaeda is in Iraq, the chant is, "We are in a civil war".
In the first place, the whole "everything is al queda" bullshit is getting pretty tiring. Al queda was nothing but a loose confederation of a few small groups. Bush decided to turn them into his Goldstein and you bought the bullshit hook line and sinker, my little sycophantic friend. Bush engaged in a massive campaign of brand awareness for al queda, and so plastering the name all over is quite useful
You dislike the Republican party right now and think that they at least had some dignity in the past; you know a candidate for the Republican party that actually DOES stand for what you want, and because he is running on a Republican ticket he has a chance of winning. And you refuse to vote for him?
I can't vote for him yet because I'm not a Republican and these are the primaries. He doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting the Republican nod because he does have some integrity, so I'll never have the chance to vote for him anyhow. That said, even if he did get the Republican nomination I wouldn't vote for him because he'd be running as a candidate for the party that most diametrically opposes his views. Now before trying to debate that point, keep in mind, "actions speak louder than words"
Look at it this way. Say you were a buddy of mine and through some bizarre set of circumstances and through no fault of your own you ended up needing a place to stay for a little while. All else being what it is, I'd happily offer to let you stay at my place. That would be similar to the situation if Ron Paul were running as a Libertarian. To make that situation similar to Ron Paul running as a Republican, we'd have to throw in that you have a number of other people with you who you can or will not separate yourself from. You won't accept any offers for a place to stay unless all of you can stay together. Now, these people that you have chosen to ally yourself with have a long track record of being thieves, liars, mass murderers, anti-American religious extremists, and generally demonstrating no redeeming characteristics whatsoever.
In that case, sorry, but I have a family to protect. When you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas and you have chosen through the company you choose to keep to make it impossible for me to help you out because, while you might not wish harm on me and my family, your friends who you chose to associate with have hurting me and my family (and community and country etc etc etc) as more or less your only goal.
That is the current situation. That is why I would refuse to vote for any Republican. I never even lived in a time when the Republicans were not the uncontested *biggest* government party. I've certainly never seen a Republican party that had *anything* worthwhile to offer anyone except for hate mongering religious extremists and already massively profitable corporations who don't need the help but demand to rob me to get it anyhow.
Additionally, voting for a Republican after the last 5 were criminal scum would be an exercise in idiocy. Doing the same thing that many times and still expecting different results is way too insane for my tastes.
You can't let on Prez do it and then hammer the next,
OJ got away with murder so nobody else can ever be convicted of it. That's a great example of the stellar reasoning skills we've come to expect form you.
Sorry, but this Prez has not gotten a fair shake since his inauguration. He can't take a shit without the press bitching that he soiled a toilet bowl. I know it's modern group-think to bash Bush, but I'm not a sheeple kinda guy. I tend to think for myself.
What color is the sky on your planet? Bush had the easiest time with the press of probably any president. It'd only after years of constant fuckups, corruption, and general sleazebaggery that they even started to pretend to ask hardball questions and we're still not getting an honest assessment of him in the press.
Seriously dude, save your idiotic nonsense. We were all here the last 7 years and we've all seen it happening. You aren't going to fool anyody but an already fooled fool with that tired old line of bullshit.
Groupthink is what you're engaging in right now. Go and spout that shit in some wingnut echo chamber and keep your ignorant groupthink to yourself. Or just kill yourself. You'd end up doing something positive that way and I don't see it happening any other way given that you've proven yourself to be a liar a fool or both with that asinine comment.
when there is evidence that he has committed high crimes and misdemeanors. I know we're all pissed off about it, but it's not illegal to play politics. Remember, the American people re-elected him well after we all already knew his way of governing.
In the first place, there is a mound of proof of a large number of high crimes and outright acts of treason. Secondly, whether or not the American people idiotically reelected the cowardly treasonous scum is entirely irrelevant. That's why we're not a democracy because democracy is an idiotic system. Even in a Republic, your argument might mean something, but in a Constitutional Republic, which is what America is, it doesn't fucking matter what the American people ask for when it goes against the constitution unless an amendment is passed. That's true in theory anyhow.
In practice, idiots will keep working to fuck themselves and everyone around them as we see happening in America now.
Otherwise, it looks more like a, "You did it to our guy, so we're doing it to you. Nyaaaah!"
I suspect that that's part of the reason they pissed away so much cash and any integrity they ever had to pin *anything* on Clinton. They knew they were going all out for treason in a few years and wanted that sort of idiotic excuse to use for their moronic constituents to avoid getting executed as every member of this administration has earned in spades.
But why didn't he say anything BEFORE?! Same thing with Colin Powell and the Army generals.
Because Colin Powell is a worthless piece of shit with no integrity? Morons thought he had some which is why it was his job to try and sell those idiotic lies.
What happened to the Republicans of old? When exactly did they turn into what is in power now?
Is this seriously not really fucking obvious to you? It was 1980 when the Republicans rejected Barry Goldwater (Republican) in favor of Ronald Reagan (fascist). They'd already fallen pretty far (Nixon's treason and Ford's folly), but that was their chance to save their party. They chose instead to brutally rape it in the ass until it was dead.
There's really nothing particularly complicated or even non-obvious about it.
I like cutting of taxes, but, it has to go with smaller govt. spending too!! I want a candidate that is for that, that fiscally conservative, slightly liberal socially....and most of all, respects and honors the Constitution.
Vote Libertarian then. They're the only party that believes in anything of the sort.
Seriously, if you're asking these sorts of questions now then you've obviously never put any thought into it at all. This shit ain't new and it ain't difficult to figure out with an hour of research tops.
Ron Paul is a Libertarian who runs as a Republican, but I personally wouldn't vote for him if he did win the Republican nomination (ha! the douchebag republicans booed him at the debate for stating simple facts and cheered Giuliani for spouting idiotic lies. That's the state of that party in a nutshell right there) as that would lend support to the Republicans. As I'm not a fan of big government I'm certainly not voting for the party of biggest government. However, if you can stand to vote Republican, Ron Paul is the only one who believes in *any* of the things you say you do.
This is another reason why free trade is not fair.
That statement might be true, but that has nothing to do with any of the reasons for it. That's because you're not really talking about free trade. You're talking about very much unfree trade. If there were anything even close to free trade, then we would be paying $2.00 for a pair of Nikes.
So while you have a handy catch phrase it's totally inapplicable in this situation. Well, unless you redefine "free trade" to mean "what politicians and business 'leaders' call free trade in order to fuck you".
More often than not, decisions which are good for business are good for the American people if those decisions lead to more products or more uses for existing products.
True as far as it goes, but nothing anything like that happens too often around here. Mostly things touted as "good for business" are good for some particular business but bad for everybody else.
Things like trying to give the oil companies multi billions of dollars in free money when they're already getting record profits, or farm subsidies, DMCA, or various other crap like that is sold as "good for business" when it quite obviously isn't true in general are the rule rather than the exception.
So you are correct, but few things sold that way are actually that way.
It would only be bad faith if the company (or you) continued denying the problem for a prolonged period after the facts all came to light.
A prolonged period like a year and a half? These issues existed prior to the initial launch.
the point is, that they had a issue, they have admited it, and have extended a "fix" (extended warranty) to customers to show good faith..
That is *not* showing good faith and that's not why they did it. They did it to avoid a massive class action lawsuit and bad publicity. They only admitted it *after* they were caught lying about it for well over a year. That is not in any conceivable way shape or form "good faith".
it's not like London isn't the second most perverted city in the western world (SF probably #1).
I doubt SF beats London. London has a metric assload more people and in SF, people let their freak flag fly. Not much repression there, which leads to a lot of pervertedness. Plus, the Brits are total perverts anyhow. I know. That's why I married one;-)
You can thank modern day Libertarian/lasseiz-faire inspired politics courtesy of the powerful and wealthy elite.
Twaddle. The powerful and wealthy elite despise Libertarian/Laissez-faire policies. They like corporate welfare aka fascism. Anything where there is socialized cost but privatized profit: military, prisons, oil etc. they love. Competing in a fair market? That's the last thing in the world they want.
Mises and Hayek argued against the fascist direction we were taking for a long time, but nobody wanted to listen to them. None of our current "free" trade policies are either anything of the sort, nor are they anything which was supported, promoted, or in any way justified by the people you're trying to blame. They were the ones screaming out warnings about where we now are the entire freaking time.
Now, that said, I don't agree with everything they ever said, but you're dead wrong about what they even did say.
MS have really impressed me with the way the handle most of the issues (with a few noted exceptions which any large company will have). Although they tried to supress the fact that they were having issues, they have now admited it, and in good faith. They extended the warranty to show good faith, not because they were obligated to, or had to....
If they initially lied about the issue and worked to cover it up, then *nothing* they subsequently do can be considered "in good faith". They tried to scam people, got caught over a massive design failure, and are now doing damage control.
Good faith would have been noticing the issue first and working to ameliorate the damage they caused. Going into damage control mode after being caught lying is not in any way "good faith".
It's amazing the shit people will willingly lap up these days. Truly bizarre.
I was gonna post an angry retort, but the irony is you've got all the anger here. I can't respond to hate.
Not when it's entirely justified and backed up by the entirety of human history and most especially the evil history of your religion.
Of course you have no right or reason to be angry about a fucking thing. You're the one supporting terrorists, murderers, and various other vile scum. I'm angry about your support for such pure evil, but that's a good thing. It means I have integrity and a conscience.
Sources? I see these claims often, but haven't seen them actually backed up with hard facts and findings of Courts. Wishing it were so does not make it so.
If you've tried so hard to avoid the facts that you haven't even seen them, then your ignorance is truly monumental. Bush's lies have been proven so all over the place. What we have yet to see is anything backing up his statements. Try actually looking for yourself instead of repeating the idiotic lies of politicians.
You're the only one wishing for something totally insane: An honest politician. The truly sickening part of your delusion is the fact that this one is a multiply proven liar. Keep dreaming, idiot.
If you'd like to discuss rationally and without vitriol, great. If you'd like to continue hurling invectives and insults, I'm out...
Sorry, ignorant fools repeating the lies of traitors don't permit a rational discussion. I'll stick to the invectives and vitriol. It's all you scum seem to either understand or believe. The most corrupt government in our history proves that quite well as well as the total degeneration of political discourse. You're just being the mouthpiece for a pack of cowardly treasonous scum, so there's no point in treating you as if you were a rational human being, hell you're not even a decent one given the criminal atrocities you are defending.
You don't know me, so how can you claim this? I don't aid evil in anyway whatsoever. But I'll gladly take the ignorant fool title. I do not know it all and I'm totally okay with that.
You have the same hate inside you that causes the very thing you are supposedly against. Your intolerance and bitterness is different from religious intolerance and hate in what way?
It's different in that I don't have thousands of years of history of mass murder, torture, genocide, eradication of knowledge, oppression, enslavement and lies. What I dislike does have exactly that. Your extremist moral relativism is nonsense. All things are not equally good or equally valid. Pity you've failed to learn that basic fact. You are, in fact, defending all of those things against basic decency. That is a totally disgusting position to be in and your nonsense beliefs to the contrary you are doing no good at all by defending such blind ignorance who's only lasting result has been hatred and sickening atrocities.
Beliefs don't make the world spin, actions do. And your actions are pretty hateful and intolerant, posting some pretty hurtful, albeit ignorant, statements.
Twaddle. Hurtful, maybe, but only if you're desperate to keep buying bullshit. Ignorant? Hardly. You're desperate to believe idiotic nonsense, so you'll ignore reality. I have no such desperation. I can look at the evidence (or complete lack thereof which is the case for all religion), and make conclusions based on that. You are incapable of doing so on this topic because you've begged the question from the beginning. That is ignorance. Knowing the facts and knowing that religion doesn't pass even a basic sanity check is a realistic position. Believing idiotic bullshit is true solely on the basis that you want it to be true is ignorant.
Maybe one day you'll realize that this type of approach to people, belittling them and attacking their beliefs, is not wise. It doesn't serve man and it doesn't serve you. Seriously, what have you accomplished? Have you opened my eyes to some truth I did not know? Not in anyway. You basically just said "you believe that! hah, you're an idiot". Not exactly a well founded argument sir.
Well, maybe your douchebag associates will realise that torturing and murdering people solely because they have a little basic common sense and refuse to blindly buy into your bullshit is not wise either. Sorry, Sparky, but you have thousands of years of atrocities to make up for before you have anything approaching a leg to stand on. I demonstrated many examples of how full of shit your religion is. You're an idiot for believing it in spite of all the evidence being to the contrary, not just for believing something so silly.
I didn't ever have any hope of convincing you through reason. You're religious. Your beliefs are beyond reason, you didn't start believing them due to reason, and reason won't pull you out of that hole. As it is, shame, contempt, and disgust are really the only things that might help. Rational thought and argument, you are immune to in this respect.
Sorry, but my country is under assault by sicko Christian fuckers who are so fucking blinded by hatred that they can't stand to live in a free society yet too cowardly to move to Saudi Arabia where they already live under their ideal system. When that type of result keeps coming out of religious lunacy, it's time to start acting sane. Belittling you as the ignorant fool and defender of ignorant hatred which you have proven yourself to be is really about the least I can do about the problems caused by your vile brethren.
Try dealing with the fucked up situation your ignorant bullshit always causes first before whining like a little bitch about how *you* are so fucking repressed.
Now when I teach firearms safety, I have the student teach me back and I question the reasoning for each rule just to verify as much as possible that they understand and to force them to do extra consideration. The mindset when working with dangerous technology needs to include the foresight into what could go wrong. Understanding the context of each safety rule is very helpful.
And then you shoot them in the hand to make sure it really sticks;-)
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I said nothing stupid, suffer no delusions and didn't backpedal one step.
As far as bigotry, there was nothing even like it in my postings let alone sub human.
I mean seriously, how was I "cornered"? I wasn't. In response to somebody else's question I gave my reasoning for opting not to vote for a person based on those he chooses to surround himself with. Apart form the fact that that wasn't addressed to you, you apparently didn't even bother to inform yourself what the post was about before posting an ignorant trolling response
It's really sad how annoying and pathetic you wingnuts are. I mean is lying all you're truly capable of?
Are you saying that it is right that OJ got away with it? OJ was charged with murder. The fact that he got away with it was a failure of the prosecutors, not a political agenda. Political agendas are what I'm saying is driving the attacks on the Prez. Pointing out that it was OK when others did proves that point. Try to keep up!
Except that it was never ok when others did it. That's the deep flaw in your reasoning. That's why what you're saying does boil down to saying that since somebody got away with something before nobody can be held responsible for the same thing now. Making up shit does nothing to aid your point. Your strawman skills are pathetic.
Do you have no sense of history?
No, I don't have no sense of history.
Did you not see the presidential limo being pelted with snowballs on the way Bush's first inauguration?
So your point is that the media was throwing snowballs? Good one. Those were citizens of this country expressing their disapproval of the president. That's a good thing.
Bush won every single count, recount, public recount, private recount and even won after the rules kept changing to favor Al Gore.
Wrong, Bucko.
In a full statewide recount (which is really the only thing that should have even been attempted) Gore won. Bush won more of the various crappy recounts that Gore was going for, but in the full statewide recount, Gore won. That's a fact which you're welcome to look up. Alternatively you can keep spouting bullshit. Now,
Gore never requested that because he was trying to pull a bullshit move as opposed to trying to ascertain the actual will of the people as represented by the ballots they cast, which is an example of a completely fucked up attitude and would form the basis of an argument. You didn't choose to do that. You chose to lie about basic publicly available facts instead. That says a lot about you and the position you're feebly trying to defend.
went downhill from there until Sept 2001.
Yes, due to his increasingly obvious incompetence and his contempt for America and the American citizens.
Of course, we know that Bush got favorable ratings for about a year after 9-11, but then it went back to where it was on 9-10 and has dropped ever since.
Indeed. That is the disapproval of the people for a leader who has demonstrated no positive qualities whatsoever. That is *in spite* of the complete ass kissing and blatant *selling* of the war by *all* of the major media outlets.
The Iraq war has been one of the most successful operations in history. The Iraqi war is unpopular because of the media's reporting of it.
No, that's not the case at all. The initial invasion was quite "successful" in the same way you'd be successful if you tried to kick a crippled kid in the face. Largely it is due to the deeply dishonest and downright treasonous manner in which he sold what was, is and will remain nothing but a hare brained scheme for world domination as laid out in the 2000 PNAC document "Rebuilding America's Defenses". That document even included the idea of misusing an attack on America to mislead the American people into the attack.
So, sorry, but you are dead fucking wrong about that. Some of us are actually informed and don't rely on the bullshit complicit US media. Nice job repeating idiotic wingnut talking points though. Do you get a gold star for that or something?
Before the war, the chant was "Al Qaeda is not in Iraq".
Which was true.
Now that Al Qaeda is in Iraq, the chant is, "We are in a civil war".
In the first place, the whole "everything is al queda" bullshit is getting pretty tiring. Al queda was nothing but a loose confederation of a few small groups. Bush decided to turn them into his Goldstein and you bought the bullshit hook line and sinker, my little sycophantic friend. Bush engaged in a massive campaign of brand awareness for al queda, and so plastering the name all over is quite useful
You dislike the Republican party right now and think that they at least had some dignity in the past; you know a candidate for the Republican party that actually DOES stand for what you want, and because he is running on a Republican ticket he has a chance of winning. And you refuse to vote for him?
I can't vote for him yet because I'm not a Republican and these are the primaries. He doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting the Republican nod because he does have some integrity, so I'll never have the chance to vote for him anyhow.
That said, even if he did get the Republican nomination I wouldn't vote for him because he'd be running as a candidate for the party that most diametrically opposes his views. Now before trying to debate that point, keep in mind, "actions speak louder than words"
Look at it this way. Say you were a buddy of mine and through some bizarre set of circumstances and through no fault of your own you ended up needing a place to stay for a little while. All else being what it is, I'd happily offer to let you stay at my place.
That would be similar to the situation if Ron Paul were running as a Libertarian.
To make that situation similar to Ron Paul running as a Republican, we'd have to throw in that you have a number of other people with you who you can or will not separate yourself from. You won't accept any offers for a place to stay unless all of you can stay together. Now, these people that you have chosen to ally yourself with have a long track record of being thieves, liars, mass murderers, anti-American religious extremists, and generally demonstrating no redeeming characteristics whatsoever.
In that case, sorry, but I have a family to protect. When you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas and you have chosen through the company you choose to keep to make it impossible for me to help you out because, while you might not wish harm on me and my family, your friends who you chose to associate with have hurting me and my family (and community and country etc etc etc) as more or less your only goal.
That is the current situation. That is why I would refuse to vote for any Republican. I never even lived in a time when the Republicans were not the uncontested *biggest* government party. I've certainly never seen a Republican party that had *anything* worthwhile to offer anyone except for hate mongering religious extremists and already massively profitable corporations who don't need the help but demand to rob me to get it anyhow.
Additionally, voting for a Republican after the last 5 were criminal scum would be an exercise in idiocy. Doing the same thing that many times and still expecting different results is way too insane for my tastes.
Does that answer your question?
You know, it's a sad state of affairs when a hate filled screed like yours gets modded "interesting".
It's much more of a statement on the sad state of affairs that you can't counter the facts so you just whine like a little bitch about how I'm mean.
You can't let on Prez do it and then hammer the next,
OJ got away with murder so nobody else can ever be convicted of it. That's a great example of the stellar reasoning skills we've come to expect form you.
Sorry, but this Prez has not gotten a fair shake since his inauguration. He can't take a shit without the press bitching that he soiled a toilet bowl. I know it's modern group-think to bash Bush, but I'm not a sheeple kinda guy. I tend to think for myself.
What color is the sky on your planet?
Bush had the easiest time with the press of probably any president. It'd only after years of constant fuckups, corruption, and general sleazebaggery that they even started to pretend to ask hardball questions and we're still not getting an honest assessment of him in the press.
Seriously dude, save your idiotic nonsense. We were all here the last 7 years and we've all seen it happening. You aren't going to fool anyody but an already fooled fool with that tired old line of bullshit.
Groupthink is what you're engaging in right now. Go and spout that shit in some wingnut echo chamber and keep your ignorant groupthink to yourself.
Or just kill yourself. You'd end up doing something positive that way and I don't see it happening any other way given that you've proven yourself to be a liar a fool or both with that asinine comment.
when there is evidence that he has committed high crimes and misdemeanors. I know we're all pissed off about it, but it's not illegal to play politics. Remember, the American people re-elected him well after we all already knew his way of governing.
In the first place, there is a mound of proof of a large number of high crimes and outright acts of treason.
Secondly, whether or not the American people idiotically reelected the cowardly treasonous scum is entirely irrelevant.
That's why we're not a democracy because democracy is an idiotic system.
Even in a Republic, your argument might mean something, but in a Constitutional Republic, which is what America is, it doesn't fucking matter what the American people ask for when it goes against the constitution unless an amendment is passed. That's true in theory anyhow.
In practice, idiots will keep working to fuck themselves and everyone around them as we see happening in America now.
Otherwise, it looks more like a, "You did it to our guy, so we're doing it to you. Nyaaaah!"
I suspect that that's part of the reason they pissed away so much cash and any integrity they ever had to pin *anything* on Clinton.
They knew they were going all out for treason in a few years and wanted that sort of idiotic excuse to use for their moronic constituents to avoid getting executed as every member of this administration has earned in spades.
But why didn't he say anything BEFORE?! Same thing with Colin Powell and the Army generals.
Because Colin Powell is a worthless piece of shit with no integrity? Morons thought he had some which is why it was his job to try and sell those idiotic lies.
What happened to the Republicans of old? When exactly did they turn into what is in power now?
Is this seriously not really fucking obvious to you?
It was 1980 when the Republicans rejected Barry Goldwater (Republican) in favor of Ronald Reagan (fascist). They'd already fallen pretty far (Nixon's treason and Ford's folly), but that was their chance to save their party. They chose instead to brutally rape it in the ass until it was dead.
There's really nothing particularly complicated or even non-obvious about it.
I like cutting of taxes, but, it has to go with smaller govt. spending too!! I want a candidate that is for that, that fiscally conservative, slightly liberal socially....and most of all, respects and honors the Constitution.
Vote Libertarian then. They're the only party that believes in anything of the sort.
Seriously, if you're asking these sorts of questions now then you've obviously never put any thought into it at all.
This shit ain't new and it ain't difficult to figure out with an hour of research tops.
Ron Paul is a Libertarian who runs as a Republican, but I personally wouldn't vote for him if he did win the Republican nomination (ha! the douchebag republicans booed him at the debate for stating simple facts and cheered Giuliani for spouting idiotic lies. That's the state of that party in a nutshell right there) as that would lend support to the Republicans. As I'm not a fan of big government I'm certainly not voting for the party of biggest government. However, if you can stand to vote Republican, Ron Paul is the only one who believes in *any* of the things you say you do.
Good one. :)
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Seriously, I've been married 5 years and I don't get the stereotype either
This is another reason why free trade is not fair.
That statement might be true, but that has nothing to do with any of the reasons for it.
That's because you're not really talking about free trade. You're talking about very much unfree trade. If there were anything even close to free trade, then we would be paying $2.00 for a pair of Nikes.
So while you have a handy catch phrase it's totally inapplicable in this situation. Well, unless you redefine "free trade" to mean "what politicians and business 'leaders' call free trade in order to fuck you".
More often than not, decisions which are good for business are good for the American people if those decisions lead to more products or more uses for existing products.
True as far as it goes, but nothing anything like that happens too often around here.
Mostly things touted as "good for business" are good for some particular business but bad for everybody else.
Things like trying to give the oil companies multi billions of dollars in free money when they're already getting record profits, or farm subsidies, DMCA, or various other crap like that is sold as "good for business" when it quite obviously isn't true in general are the rule rather than the exception.
So you are correct, but few things sold that way are actually that way.
Bah, I previewed that one too... Previous post should say "break".
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Nah, you were correct assuming that the coffee cup was moving toward you initially
I tried the Yahoo client and agree with BanjoBob that for me at least, is worse than MMJB.
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I think this sentence following your laundry list of problems with MMJB really says it all
I've been married almost nine years and have a healthy sex life as evidenced by my five kids.
;-) Granted that beats the /. average by a handy margin, but still...
Ahhh come now. That's only proof that you had sex 5 times over 9 years
It would only be bad faith if the company (or you) continued denying the problem for a prolonged period after the facts all came to light.
A prolonged period like a year and a half? These issues existed prior to the initial launch.
the point is, that they had a issue, they have admited it, and have extended a "fix" (extended warranty) to customers to show good faith..
That is *not* showing good faith and that's not why they did it. They did it to avoid a massive class action lawsuit and bad publicity. They only admitted it *after* they were caught lying about it for well over a year. That is not in any conceivable way shape or form "good faith".
it's not like London isn't the second most perverted city in the western world (SF probably #1).
;-)
I doubt SF beats London.
London has a metric assload more people and in SF, people let their freak flag fly. Not much repression there, which leads to a lot of pervertedness. Plus, the Brits are total perverts anyhow. I know. That's why I married one
Funny farms. admit him. forcibly if necessary. (just leave the K-9 unit at home if he does a runner)
;-)
Heck, just put the dog in a pretty dress and you'll catch him a lot quicker
You can thank modern day Libertarian/lasseiz-faire inspired politics courtesy of the powerful and wealthy elite.
Twaddle.
The powerful and wealthy elite despise Libertarian/Laissez-faire policies. They like corporate welfare aka fascism. Anything where there is socialized cost but privatized profit: military, prisons, oil etc. they love. Competing in a fair market? That's the last thing in the world they want.
Mises and Hayek argued against the fascist direction we were taking for a long time, but nobody wanted to listen to them. None of our current "free" trade policies are either anything of the sort, nor are they anything which was supported, promoted, or in any way justified by the people you're trying to blame. They were the ones screaming out warnings about where we now are the entire freaking time.
Now, that said, I don't agree with everything they ever said, but you're dead wrong about what they even did say.
MS have really impressed me with the way the handle most of the issues (with a few noted exceptions which any large company will have). Although they tried to supress the fact that they were having issues, they have now admited it, and in good faith. They extended the warranty to show good faith, not because they were obligated to, or had to....
If they initially lied about the issue and worked to cover it up, then *nothing* they subsequently do can be considered "in good faith".
They tried to scam people, got caught over a massive design failure, and are now doing damage control.
Good faith would have been noticing the issue first and working to ameliorate the damage they caused.
Going into damage control mode after being caught lying is not in any way "good faith".
It's amazing the shit people will willingly lap up these days. Truly bizarre.
Good thing I'm a free man and you can't do a thing about it then huh?
I have no interest in forcing anything on anyone.
The weird thing is, you insist you know me. You don't sir.
I know what you're defending and what that says about you. That's all I've claimed.
I was gonna post an angry retort, but the irony is you've got all the anger here. I can't respond to hate.
Not when it's entirely justified and backed up by the entirety of human history and most especially the evil history of your religion.
Of course you have no right or reason to be angry about a fucking thing. You're the one supporting terrorists, murderers, and various other vile scum. I'm angry about your support for such pure evil, but that's a good thing. It means I have integrity and a conscience.
Sources? I see these claims often, but haven't seen them actually backed up with hard facts and findings of Courts. Wishing it were so does not make it so.
If you've tried so hard to avoid the facts that you haven't even seen them, then your ignorance is truly monumental.
Bush's lies have been proven so all over the place. What we have yet to see is anything backing up his statements. Try actually looking for yourself instead of repeating the idiotic lies of politicians.
You're the only one wishing for something totally insane: An honest politician. The truly sickening part of your delusion is the fact that this one is a multiply proven liar. Keep dreaming, idiot.
If you'd like to discuss rationally and without vitriol, great. If you'd like to continue hurling invectives and insults, I'm out...
Sorry, ignorant fools repeating the lies of traitors don't permit a rational discussion. I'll stick to the invectives and vitriol. It's all you scum seem to either understand or believe. The most corrupt government in our history proves that quite well as well as the total degeneration of political discourse. You're just being the mouthpiece for a pack of cowardly treasonous scum, so there's no point in treating you as if you were a rational human being, hell you're not even a decent one given the criminal atrocities you are defending.
You don't know me, so how can you claim this? I don't aid evil in anyway whatsoever. But I'll gladly take the ignorant fool title. I do not know it all and I'm totally okay with that.
You're defending ignorance. That's pretty fucking evil.
You have the same hate inside you that causes the very thing you are supposedly against. Your intolerance and bitterness is different from religious intolerance and hate in what way?
It's different in that I don't have thousands of years of history of mass murder, torture, genocide, eradication of knowledge, oppression, enslavement and lies.
What I dislike does have exactly that. Your extremist moral relativism is nonsense. All things are not equally good or equally valid. Pity you've failed to learn that basic fact. You are, in fact, defending all of those things against basic decency. That is a totally disgusting position to be in and your nonsense beliefs to the contrary you are doing no good at all by defending such blind ignorance who's only lasting result has been hatred and sickening atrocities.
Beliefs don't make the world spin, actions do. And your actions are pretty hateful and intolerant, posting some pretty hurtful, albeit ignorant, statements.
Twaddle. Hurtful, maybe, but only if you're desperate to keep buying bullshit. Ignorant? Hardly. You're desperate to believe idiotic nonsense, so you'll ignore reality. I have no such desperation. I can look at the evidence (or complete lack thereof which is the case for all religion), and make conclusions based on that. You are incapable of doing so on this topic because you've begged the question from the beginning. That is ignorance. Knowing the facts and knowing that religion doesn't pass even a basic sanity check is a realistic position. Believing idiotic bullshit is true solely on the basis that you want it to be true is ignorant.
Maybe one day you'll realize that this type of approach to people, belittling them and attacking their beliefs, is not wise. It doesn't serve man and it doesn't serve you. Seriously, what have you accomplished? Have you opened my eyes to some truth I did not know? Not in anyway. You basically just said "you believe that! hah, you're an idiot". Not exactly a well founded argument sir.
Well, maybe your douchebag associates will realise that torturing and murdering people solely because they have a little basic common sense and refuse to blindly buy into your bullshit is not wise either.
Sorry, Sparky, but you have thousands of years of atrocities to make up for before you have anything approaching a leg to stand on.
I demonstrated many examples of how full of shit your religion is. You're an idiot for believing it in spite of all the evidence being to the contrary, not just for believing something so silly.
I didn't ever have any hope of convincing you through reason. You're religious. Your beliefs are beyond reason, you didn't start believing them due to reason, and reason won't pull you out of that hole.
As it is, shame, contempt, and disgust are really the only things that might help.
Rational thought and argument, you are immune to in this respect.
Sorry, but my country is under assault by sicko Christian fuckers who are so fucking blinded by hatred that they can't stand to live in a free society yet too cowardly to move to Saudi Arabia where they already live under their ideal system. When that type of result keeps coming out of religious lunacy, it's time to start acting sane. Belittling you as the ignorant fool and defender of ignorant hatred which you have proven yourself to be is really about the least I can do about the problems caused by your vile brethren.
Try dealing with the fucked up situation your ignorant bullshit always causes first before whining like a little bitch about how *you* are so fucking repressed.
Now when I teach firearms safety, I have the student teach me back and I question the reasoning for each rule just to verify as much as possible that they understand and to force them to do extra consideration. The mindset when working with dangerous technology needs to include the foresight into what could go wrong. Understanding the context of each safety rule is very helpful.
And then you shoot them in the hand to make sure it really sticks