Lucky for you and your little bitch country which, let me try a wild guess here, depends on the USA for its defense. I am guessing that because most of the countries that don't are the kind of countries where people are either too poor or too oppressed to be posting on slashdot.
They were the ones who instigated it. They should be charged with inciting a riot and disturbing the peace, if not more.
Yeah, those poor Muslims had no choice in the matter and nobody could really expect them to be responsible for their actions.
Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Yet that is exactly what you are advocating: personal responsibility for everyone except adherents of the Religion of Permanent Offence
What sort of upbringing does one need to take pleasure in causing such utterly unnecessary pain? They got what they wanted and they've already fucked you over, so why take special effort to really rub your nose in it like that?
Agreed, 100%. My 7-series is a gorgeous machine and I am rewarded every time I get in the thing, every time I start the engine, every corner I take...
Running costs are certainly higher with a V8 over a little 4cyl Nissan Bluebird and the car weighs nearly two tonnes so it does eat a bit of fuel. Servicing is also about twice what I used to pay for my old car.
This car valued at $220k new cost me only $30k with 80,000 KMs on the clock and I bought it cash - that's right, I saved up for something I wanted! Not very modern or fashionable of me I know.
If I were wise, I would have bought a house instead of a car, but I reasoned that the age of the V8 is nearly over, I could die tomorrow and I was sick of deferring the rewards of my labour.
no, i want him to douse himself and set himself on fire before he molests any (more?) kids
He does nothing of the sort, but given your lack of critical analysis skills I wouldn't expect you to understand. Glad to have you as judge, jury and executioner, thanks so much. The world's a much better place with your attitude.
Keep thinking with your emotions, don't let intelligence get a look in!
(Oh and look, how sweet - you've been rewarded by a moron with a mod point. There's definitely no shortage of stupid in the Human race.)
The world is full of people like yourself, too mentally weak to parse a cogent argument in a discussion without irrational emotions setting you off frothing. You remind me of the depressingly stupid people decrying a minister's quoted use of the word "niggardly" that flared up where I live a while ago. As I recall, one particularly barbaric individual suggested the minister in question actually be killed for his use of the word.
And you want to douse MindPrison in fuel and set him on fire because you don't understand his argument? No wait, I understand, it's because you somehow honestly believe this to be the solution to a terrible problem you perceive. Amusingly, it's unlikely you'll ever allow yourself to realise that by voicing your 'solution' you're really just letting most normal people know that you're the one with the problem.
The fact is that every rich person feels a poor person is a disposable slave. No rich fuck gives a shit if you even have a weekend off now.
KILL THESE FUCKERS NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
Of course, your purity would shine through even if you found yourself head of a company turning over $200 million a year, right?
I'd like to think *my own* purity would shine through too, but the truth is that money and power typically corrupt human beings. One need only review history for concrete examples.
Humanity, as it is right now, is pretty ugly. Of course, that's our choice...
Why don't you tell that to the poster who suggested nuking South Korea for no reason whatsoever?
He literally wanted to genocide two entire countries just because he is too dumb to tell the difference between a friendly and a mildly hostile nation.
Would glassing an entire nation of people still be considered 'genocide', or is it more likely 'extermination' at that level?
Keep this in mind when voting next time then. How Key gets away with this and the Sky City fiasco is beyond me.
You're dead right. We need to get Helen back from the UN to save us from these horrible, horrible centrists. She's the only one who can help us! Death to all business in New Zealand, and especially extra death to small business in New Zealand, those pesky, greedy capitalist pigs that need to be strung up and strangled by red tape forever!
I don't necessarily disagree with your scenario. Proxy wars do however have the advantage of not getting one's own country targeted by enemy ordnance. Such unwanted attention tends to complicate the matter of maintaining popular support back home.
Even someone like Putin might find that inconvenient in the current political climate and opt for a less direct approach.
So, why exactly are you on slashdot? Ah yes, the general decay of nerdom everwhere into fashionable geekness where you only need to be able to recognize buzzwords and repeat them ad nauseum but have no concrete knowledge or experiential use of those acronyms.
Your frustration that the parent poster isn't turned on by the idea of disassembling their hotel room when away on business is well evident and even vaguely understandable.. but seriously, Icebike's posts are of consistently high quality and often very insightful.
Like the GP I've found myself pulling things apart when bored, however this isn't necessarily everyone's cup of tea! Some people eschew hardware tinkering for software geeking, for example.
It seems to me a touch unfair that you would condemn someone as essentially unfit for slashdot on the basis of such a small thing.
A little late to comment but I found your post inspiring and a wonderful counterpoint to the prevailing attitudes of the young people in the workforce today.
(cue 'youth of today, youth of today..' and 'get off my lawn' comments)
Wow. Have you ever been feed a bag of lies. The foundation of what Jesus taught was that we don't need sacrifice anymore. God freely forgives and we are supposed to do the same. In fact, our forgiveness is tied to us forgiving others. Read the Bible. It makes a lot more sense when you read it and not simply repeat what somebody told you.
I've read the fucking bible (the Bag of Lies to which you refer) and I can suggest many other uses of one's time that does not involve fruitless attempts to decipher an inconsistent, ranty and amoral tangle of half-truths and outright lies designed to empower the clergy above the greater mass of humanity.
And you unbelieveably gullable fucktards swallow it hook, line and sinker.
Oh, and BTW I'm comfortable with the idea of going to Hell for not believing in your brand of Tooth Fairy.
Christianity is simply TOO HIGH A PRICE TO PAY FOR ETERNAL SALVATION.
It's not a side note, it's central to the message. As for saying God can't forgive, that's easily rebutted:
As for your mindless adherence to a book of fairy tales designed to improve the lot of some humans over other humans, that's easily rebutted:
"God's forgiveness is available to all who will come (John 3:16), but for those who will not believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ, there is no forgiveness or remission of sin (Acts 10:43)."
In case you're having trouble figuring out what is REALLY being said here, allow me to explain: "Believe in me or you are FUCKED. I will forgive only those that prostrate themselves on the ground and grovel before me."
Oh, what a loving god you've got there.
Almost as if it was made up by humans.. hmm...
There's none so truly a slave as the one who believes himself to be free. Enjoy your cage, PRISONER.
Yes, forgiveness is taught by the Bible along with many, many other concepts of how to proceed with life.Study the bits in red if you have trouble finding it.
Perhaps he's having trouble finding the bits that have any actual value on the discussion of 'how to proceed with life'?
Maybe shepherds from two thousands years ago don't actually have much to say about life in the 21st century? Ignoring the blood sacrifices of course. Oh, and all the other amoral activities espoused in the bible. But it's still the moral compass of the world, right?
Actually, it is. Forgiveness is exactly what good people do and it's taught by bible and other ancient guidelines. Likewise, you should give people second changes and even more. In real life this can be hard but it's something you should try to do.
First off, why do you mention the fucking bible? What place does the bible have in a conversation about morality? I don't see you holding the bible up for its hypocrisy and innate evil, so does that mean your intention to use it as an example of actual morality?
Oh, and by the way, I'm happy to not be considered a 'good person' by your simplistic yardstick. I have not forgotten Bill Gates' historic behaviour and I continue to be unimpressed with his current behaviour.
I will never forget and because of the 'once bitten twice shy' I believe it is actually counterproductive to forgive people as thoroughly vile as the members of the Gates mob.
I'm not so easily distracted by the pretty shinies Gates is up to right now. You might do yourself a favour by developing some critical thinking skills so you don't live the rest of your life as a fucking rube.
Ah yes, there we go. There's always some do-gooder cunt like you ready to shout "Racist1!!1" whenever the truth is a little bitter for your tastes.
When are you wilfully-ignorant, politically-correct fucks going to grow up? Discussing individual and group behaviours is a valid part of intelligent discourse.
Never fear, free discussion won't be around for much longer while we have vile scum like you to keep us toeing the Party line.
Anyone with a clue missed the stories you linked too. Who reads crap timothy and kdawson approve? Its almost certainly going to be wrong and a load of crap topped with a heaping of editoral opinion just in case you weren't quick enough to realize the story only made it to the front page because one of those fucktards actually believes the bullshit submitted.
Sorry, you lose all credibility by mentioning a kdawson or timothy story.
You're a fine one to talk about credibility, O empty-headed spouter of unreferenced nonsense.
Oh, and I wouldn't go calling people 'fucktards' in your position, as you pretty much epitomise the term.
If you think censorship is evil in all forms, well then go fuck yourself cause that makes you just as much a ignorant fuck as the people pushing filters on everyone. You're an idiot if you can't understand why censorship exists and what benefits (not just the costs) it brings.
You really are an unbelievably arrogant cunt with nothing useful to say.
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Thanks dude, that was a really interesting talk! :)
Lucky for you and your little bitch country which, let me try a wild guess here, depends on the USA for its defense. I am guessing that because most of the countries that don't are the kind of countries where people are either too poor or too oppressed to be posting on slashdot.
Translation: America, FUCK YEAH!
Fuck off, apk.
And what does your feeble straw-man argument have to do with the movie we're all discussing, jackass?
You mean the movie producers?
They were the ones who instigated it. They should be charged with inciting a riot and disturbing the peace, if not more.
Yeah, those poor Muslims had no choice in the matter and nobody could really expect them to be responsible for their actions.
Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Yet that is exactly what you are advocating: personal responsibility for everyone except adherents of the Religion of Permanent Offence
That's fucking nasty, I really feel for you.
What sort of upbringing does one need to take pleasure in causing such utterly unnecessary pain? They got what they wanted and they've already fucked you over, so why take special effort to really rub your nose in it like that?
Very saddening.
Agreed, 100%. My 7-series is a gorgeous machine and I am rewarded every time I get in the thing, every time I start the engine, every corner I take...
Running costs are certainly higher with a V8 over a little 4cyl Nissan Bluebird and the car weighs nearly two tonnes so it does eat a bit of fuel. Servicing is also about twice what I used to pay for my old car.
This car valued at $220k new cost me only $30k with 80,000 KMs on the clock and I bought it cash - that's right, I saved up for something I wanted! Not very modern or fashionable of me I know.
If I were wise, I would have bought a house instead of a car, but I reasoned that the age of the V8 is nearly over, I could die tomorrow and I was sick of deferring the rewards of my labour.
no, i want him to douse himself and set himself on fire before he molests any (more?) kids
He does nothing of the sort, but given your lack of critical analysis skills I wouldn't expect you to understand. Glad to have you as judge, jury and executioner, thanks so much. The world's a much better place with your attitude.
Keep thinking with your emotions, don't let intelligence get a look in!
(Oh and look, how sweet - you've been rewarded by a moron with a mod point. There's definitely no shortage of stupid in the Human race.)
Anyone using them should go home and re-think their lives.
A little over the top, don't you think. Jerk.
It's a quote from The Phantom Menace if memory serves.
Whoops, nearly forgot the ad-hominen: Jerk!
The world is full of people like yourself, too mentally weak to parse a cogent argument in a discussion without irrational emotions setting you off frothing. You remind me of the depressingly stupid people decrying a minister's quoted use of the word "niggardly" that flared up where I live a while ago. As I recall, one particularly barbaric individual suggested the minister in question actually be killed for his use of the word.
And you want to douse MindPrison in fuel and set him on fire because you don't understand his argument? No wait, I understand, it's because you somehow honestly believe this to be the solution to a terrible problem you perceive. Amusingly, it's unlikely you'll ever allow yourself to realise that by voicing your 'solution' you're really just letting most normal people know that you're the one with the problem.
The fact is that every rich person feels a poor person is a disposable slave. No rich fuck gives a shit if you even have a weekend off now.
KILL THESE FUCKERS NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
Of course, your purity would shine through even if you found yourself head of a company turning over $200 million a year, right?
I'd like to think *my own* purity would shine through too, but the truth is that money and power typically corrupt human beings. One need only review history for concrete examples.
Humanity, as it is right now, is pretty ugly. Of course, that's our choice...
Argh!!
Don't mention that damn file, he'll pop up like a little lawn-sprinkler and shower us all with strangely-formatted advice!
That was an interesting read made difficult and tedious due to Scott Barnes' writing style (or lack thereof)
Dude, commas are your friend.
Why don't you tell that to the poster who suggested nuking South Korea for no reason whatsoever?
He literally wanted to genocide two entire countries just because he is too dumb to tell the difference between a friendly and a mildly hostile nation.
Would glassing an entire nation of people still be considered 'genocide', or is it more likely 'extermination' at that level?
No particular horse in this race, just musing..
Keep this in mind when voting next time then. How Key gets away with this and the Sky City fiasco is beyond me.
You're dead right. We need to get Helen back from the UN to save us from these horrible, horrible centrists. She's the only one who can help us! Death to all business in New Zealand, and especially extra death to small business in New Zealand, those pesky, greedy capitalist pigs that need to be strung up and strangled by red tape forever!
I don't necessarily disagree with your scenario. Proxy wars do however have the advantage of not getting one's own country targeted by enemy ordnance. Such unwanted attention tends to complicate the matter of maintaining popular support back home.
Even someone like Putin might find that inconvenient in the current political climate and opt for a less direct approach.
So, why exactly are you on slashdot? Ah yes, the general decay of nerdom everwhere into fashionable geekness where you only need to be able to recognize buzzwords and repeat them ad nauseum but have no concrete knowledge or experiential use of those acronyms.
Your frustration that the parent poster isn't turned on by the idea of disassembling their hotel room when away on business is well evident and even vaguely understandable.. but seriously, Icebike's posts are of consistently high quality and often very insightful.
Like the GP I've found myself pulling things apart when bored, however this isn't necessarily everyone's cup of tea! Some people eschew hardware tinkering for software geeking, for example.
It seems to me a touch unfair that you would condemn someone as essentially unfit for slashdot on the basis of such a small thing.
A little late to comment but I found your post inspiring and a wonderful counterpoint to the prevailing attitudes of the young people in the workforce today.
(cue 'youth of today, youth of today..' and 'get off my lawn' comments)
Wow. Have you ever been feed a bag of lies. The foundation of what Jesus taught was that we don't need sacrifice anymore. God freely forgives and we are supposed to do the same. In fact, our forgiveness is tied to us forgiving others. Read the Bible. It makes a lot more sense when you read it and not simply repeat what somebody told you.
I've read the fucking bible (the Bag of Lies to which you refer) and I can suggest many other uses of one's time that does not involve fruitless attempts to decipher an inconsistent, ranty and amoral tangle of half-truths and outright lies designed to empower the clergy above the greater mass of humanity.
And you unbelieveably gullable fucktards swallow it hook, line and sinker.
Oh, and BTW I'm comfortable with the idea of going to Hell for not believing in your brand of Tooth Fairy.
Christianity is simply TOO HIGH A PRICE TO PAY FOR ETERNAL SALVATION.
It's not a side note, it's central to the message. As for saying God can't forgive, that's easily rebutted:
As for your mindless adherence to a book of fairy tales designed to improve the lot of some humans over other humans, that's easily rebutted:
"God's forgiveness is available to all who will come (John 3:16), but for those who will not believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ, there is no forgiveness or remission of sin (Acts 10:43)."
In case you're having trouble figuring out what is REALLY being said here, allow me to explain: "Believe in me or you are FUCKED. I will forgive only those that prostrate themselves on the ground and grovel before me."
Oh, what a loving god you've got there.
Almost as if it was made up by humans.. hmm...
There's none so truly a slave as the one who believes himself to be free. Enjoy your cage, PRISONER.
Yes, forgiveness is taught by the Bible along with many, many other concepts of how to proceed with life.Study the bits in red if you have trouble finding it.
Perhaps he's having trouble finding the bits that have any actual value on the discussion of 'how to proceed with life'?
Maybe shepherds from two thousands years ago don't actually have much to say about life in the 21st century? Ignoring the blood sacrifices of course. Oh, and all the other amoral activities espoused in the bible. But it's still the moral compass of the world, right?
Actually, it is. Forgiveness is exactly what good people do and it's taught by bible and other ancient guidelines. Likewise, you should give people second changes and even more. In real life this can be hard but it's something you should try to do.
First off, why do you mention the fucking bible? What place does the bible have in a conversation about morality? I don't see you holding the bible up for its hypocrisy and innate evil, so does that mean your intention to use it as an example of actual morality?
Oh, and by the way, I'm happy to not be considered a 'good person' by your simplistic yardstick. I have not forgotten Bill Gates' historic behaviour and I continue to be unimpressed with his current behaviour.
I will never forget and because of the 'once bitten twice shy' I believe it is actually counterproductive to forgive people as thoroughly vile as the members of the Gates mob.
I'm not so easily distracted by the pretty shinies Gates is up to right now. You might do yourself a favour by developing some critical thinking skills so you don't live the rest of your life as a fucking rube.
Racist much?
Ah yes, there we go. There's always some do-gooder cunt like you ready to shout "Racist1!!1" whenever the truth is a little bitter for your tastes.
When are you wilfully-ignorant, politically-correct fucks going to grow up? Discussing individual and group behaviours is a valid part of intelligent discourse.
Never fear, free discussion won't be around for much longer while we have vile scum like you to keep us toeing the Party line.
Anyone with a clue missed the stories you linked too. Who reads crap timothy and kdawson approve? Its almost certainly going to be wrong and a load of crap topped with a heaping of editoral opinion just in case you weren't quick enough to realize the story only made it to the front page because one of those fucktards actually believes the bullshit submitted.
Sorry, you lose all credibility by mentioning a kdawson or timothy story.
You're a fine one to talk about credibility, O empty-headed spouter of unreferenced nonsense.
Oh, and I wouldn't go calling people 'fucktards' in your position, as you pretty much epitomise the term.
So?
If you think censorship is evil in all forms, well then go fuck yourself cause that makes you just as much a ignorant fuck as the people pushing filters on everyone. You're an idiot if you can't understand why censorship exists and what benefits (not just the costs) it brings.
You really are an unbelievably arrogant cunt with nothing useful to say.