As for nuclear power: the first generations weren't all that great. Modern, fourth generation reactors though... I'm all in favor. MUCH better than coal fired plants.
The tax benefits would still apply, but I wouldn't be able to apply them to the Tesla in that case (you can't sell the car for at least 5 years after applying the tax rebate). And the range of the car is an issue. I regularly drive 50 km to get to my work, then drive to another customer 90 km the other way, then back to my home. That's not every week, but it happens at least once a month. I have customers that are 90 km. away that I sometimes have to get to for weeks or months on end. If my car can *just* make that, it will be problematic in winter or when I have to make a detour.
Also, the Nissan Leaf is much more expensive over here. About twice your price. Which really makes it about the same price as a model 3. The secondhand cars I was able to find are around 15k euro, with 90.000km on the meter. Not that interesting. Our secondhand car market is quite different from that in the USA. Most secondhand cars that can drive, get exported to Eastern Europe right away to get a higher price there than they could locally. This drives up prices in the local market.
I understand your analogy, but in what way do you think this model will be shit? The specs already look much better than top of the line cars. Compared to the S, it's shorter. But most of the features of an S will still be on it.
Tesla doesn't have to do the regular "screw the customer" dance that I hated so much when working at Mercedes. They don't have to intentionally make a cheaper car less luxurious in order to justify the overpriced "luxury model". They don't have to avoid putting in a navigation so you have to put down $8000,- for the integrated navigation that's worse than the $100 garmin you buy in the store. They don't have to worry about cannibalizing sales of the model S and model X. Tesla can just sell the model 3 and make it as good as they possibly can, and become a huge car maker in the process because the competition is scared to match it.
The only company with a chance of catching up is Chevrolet and if you look at the Bolt you see the same attitude: it's intentionally made worse than it could be to avoid hitting the sales of their other cars. So if you base your attitude on the long standing practice of other carmakers I understand that. But Tesla is just not in the same position, and has a different strategy. So to assume the model 3 will be any less than the model S except in range and size is an assumption I don't share.
Don't forget that after the USA cars have been delivered, the rest of the world gets it. And they have different tax rules. And after that, if noone is in the queue anymore because all orders stop today, *then* you might get one. Might.
For tax reasons, I'm putting down $1000. That's a bit less in euro's and it provides me with a chance at a company car in my own company, that has no additional "car tax" of 60%, that has a very low "road use tax", that has (due to environmental taxes) just a third of the fuel cost of my current Prius, that will come with a tax rebate of 25% in addition to the other stuff. Oh, and maintenance cost are near zero. And if I drive it as a business car, it will only count towards personal income with 4% of the car's original value as opposed to 25% for regular cars.
So, I'm putting down $1000 dollar which in the worst case I will get just back (Tesla isn't going to go bankrupt when they can get a loan based on 14 billion dollar worth of pre-orders) without interest. In the best case I get what looks like the best car on the planet (*) for half the price of a regular car. That's not a bad opportunity cost at all.
(*) I used to drive a Mercedes when I worked for the company - the model S is a MUCH better car than the Mercedes S-class and Tesla is also much better for its customers.
The basic point is that men do not have the right to walk into the ladies room.
"Yes, that was a huge issue. I remember the day the queue of men wanting to move into the ladies room stretched right around the block. Boy, was I happy when the national guard showed up!"
That will be interesting, because hermaphrodites get surgery to make sure they get a single sex, and that is never at birth, usually a few years later. And even then it's a toss-up whether gender and sex will match because puberty will play merry hell with gender and sex identification even more than in XX or XY adolescents.
Well, in The Netherlands this proposed law is already currently in practice. So let's study the consequences.
1) If you don't report the theft of a phone, don't be surprised if SWAT storms your house. It's happened - people realize they have to report it now. Given the prices on new phones (Apple and Samsung latest model phones are the most popular) this happens almost always. It's also pretty easy to block a phone and it's also mandatory for the phone company to block phones reported as stolen - if they don't, *they're* the ones who are liable for the consequences.
2) It's not a crime to forget to report it and it would be stupid to have that law. What happens now is that you do partially lose the presumption of innocence in that case. Prove you didn't have the phone and you weren't the one to use it. If you'd like to avoid that scenario, better report it. But it has happened, people have been swatted for something someone else did while using their phone (a very rare occurrence btw) and they have always been able to prove it wasn't them.
3) I have yet to see the criminal that reports a stolen phone at the police to avoid being caught. It might happen, but this may also risk inactivating the phone at a very inconvenient time. So I'd like to see even one example of this.
4) Did those laws prevent terrorism in NL? Not a single instance of it. But they did help to trace the people involved pretty fast.
GP answered your question about stolen phones. Kidnapping is a very different and much rarer occurrence. GP thought it through before replying, I fear you didn't.
True. Nothing is as demoralizing and leads to bad performance in class as fast as underestimating kids. It's worse than overestimating them because it's harder to spot.
Chalking Trump 2016 on the sidewalk is something I'd pretty much ignore even if I think it won't end well if he *is* elected. I mean, I can understand a demonstration against Trump. I don't understand a demonstration against some chalk on a sidewalk.
This is what happens if you have confused identity politics instead of putting the working class (aka normal people) in the center of your politics. If anything is bad just because "it makes you feel bad" then there is literally no principle in your politics anymore. Everything is just opportunism and at the end of the day, you're a tool for the person with the loudest voice.
The consume 5550000000000000 kWh, which is 5550000000 GWh. So... either my calculations are off, I misinterpreted something, or it's just a drop on a hot plate.
Yeah, that's a good summary. That user interface was incredibly stupid - and lethal. Pilot error, sure. But a minor error turned into a lethal disaster because the UI made it nearly impossible to do the right thing with just seconds in which to react.
The Brits gave Hong Kong island back to China for a good reason. Shit like this belongs in the 19th century, not the 21st.
I appreciate the sentiment, but this is a pretty bad example.
The British government had a 100-year lease on the property, they did not own it. They tried to extend the lease but the Chinese were pretty insistent that they hand back their property. And since the British Empire no longer existed as such, and the Chinese army, navy and airforce were quite capable of taking the island by force, if necessary, they ground their teeth and handed it over. Lock, stock and barrel. But not before the British government quickly implemented democracy for the first time ever in Hong Kong right before the handover, just to, ah... help the Hong Kong people understand what a Western style democracy actually is. Mind you, they never had the chance to experience it before that time so it was pretty nice they got around to it. Just a pity they did it only after it became apparent they wouldn't actually be able to hold it.
Someday, someone should make a comedy about this. Although I'm not sure the inhabitants will appreciate the humour of it all.
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Now try to detect them through a layer of bone, which is a pretty good insulator, and skin.
Not a problem. The kit includes a drill and a manual for surgical insertion of electrodes in the brain.
I agree. That "human" part really needs more evidence. I saw a movie about her and it certainly looked as if she wasn't human.
Citation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Aaarrgghhhhh....
WEATHER IS NOT CLIMATE!
Please... If we disagree about something so basic, there is no point in having this discussion.
But... you could also be highly ironic, in a post-modern kind of fashion. Hmmm... well played!
When you tell a 22-year-old to turn off the phone, don't ruin the movie, they hear 'please cut off your left arm above the elbow, ...
I really don't see the problem here. When they talk to me all I hear is "whaa whaa whaa whaa".
Now get off my lawn!
I'd pay a good amount of money if this was a kickstarter for a new theater.
I agree on your first two points.
As for nuclear power: the first generations weren't all that great. Modern, fourth generation reactors though... I'm all in favor. MUCH better than coal fired plants.
The tax benefits would still apply, but I wouldn't be able to apply them to the Tesla in that case (you can't sell the car for at least 5 years after applying the tax rebate). And the range of the car is an issue. I regularly drive 50 km to get to my work, then drive to another customer 90 km the other way, then back to my home. That's not every week, but it happens at least once a month. I have customers that are 90 km. away that I sometimes have to get to for weeks or months on end. If my car can *just* make that, it will be problematic in winter or when I have to make a detour.
Also, the Nissan Leaf is much more expensive over here. About twice your price. Which really makes it about the same price as a model 3. The secondhand cars I was able to find are around 15k euro, with 90.000km on the meter. Not that interesting. Our secondhand car market is quite different from that in the USA. Most secondhand cars that can drive, get exported to Eastern Europe right away to get a higher price there than they could locally. This drives up prices in the local market.
Yeah. Good luck driving a 20 year old Diesel into any city in Germany, Sweden, or Holland. You can easily buy a Tesla from the fines alone.
I understand your analogy, but in what way do you think this model will be shit? The specs already look much better than top of the line cars. Compared to the S, it's shorter. But most of the features of an S will still be on it.
Tesla doesn't have to do the regular "screw the customer" dance that I hated so much when working at Mercedes. They don't have to intentionally make a cheaper car less luxurious in order to justify the overpriced "luxury model". They don't have to avoid putting in a navigation so you have to put down $8000,- for the integrated navigation that's worse than the $100 garmin you buy in the store. They don't have to worry about cannibalizing sales of the model S and model X. Tesla can just sell the model 3 and make it as good as they possibly can, and become a huge car maker in the process because the competition is scared to match it.
The only company with a chance of catching up is Chevrolet and if you look at the Bolt you see the same attitude: it's intentionally made worse than it could be to avoid hitting the sales of their other cars. So if you base your attitude on the long standing practice of other carmakers I understand that. But Tesla is just not in the same position, and has a different strategy. So to assume the model 3 will be any less than the model S except in range and size is an assumption I don't share.
Don't forget that after the USA cars have been delivered, the rest of the world gets it. And they have different tax rules. And after that, if noone is in the queue anymore because all orders stop today, *then* you might get one. Might.
For tax reasons, I'm putting down $1000. That's a bit less in euro's and it provides me with a chance at a company car in my own company, that has no additional "car tax" of 60%, that has a very low "road use tax", that has (due to environmental taxes) just a third of the fuel cost of my current Prius, that will come with a tax rebate of 25% in addition to the other stuff. Oh, and maintenance cost are near zero. And if I drive it as a business car, it will only count towards personal income with 4% of the car's original value as opposed to 25% for regular cars.
So, I'm putting down $1000 dollar which in the worst case I will get just back (Tesla isn't going to go bankrupt when they can get a loan based on 14 billion dollar worth of pre-orders) without interest. In the best case I get what looks like the best car on the planet (*) for half the price of a regular car. That's not a bad opportunity cost at all.
(*) I used to drive a Mercedes when I worked for the company - the model S is a MUCH better car than the Mercedes S-class and Tesla is also much better for its customers.
That's the optimists view. The pessimists are looking over their shoulder to see if the ashbin is catching up.
The basic point is that men do not have the right to walk into the ladies room.
"Yes, that was a huge issue. I remember the day the queue of men wanting to move into the ladies room stretched right around the block. Boy, was I happy when the national guard showed up!"
That will be interesting, because hermaphrodites get surgery to make sure they get a single sex, and that is never at birth, usually a few years later. And even then it's a toss-up whether gender and sex will match because puberty will play merry hell with gender and sex identification even more than in XX or XY adolescents.
Score: 2, Troll. Impressive! :) But it should be +5 Insightful. Apparently someone with mod points misclicked something.
Oooh nice. That takes care of ALL environmental issues in one fell swoop! Just boil the drivers! Brilliant! :)
So.. art thou still using the book-of-words thy ealdefæder left thee?
I think you're all seeing this way to much black and white...
And as an aside, your post nicely illustrates the whole stupidity of the "white or black" argument.
Well, in The Netherlands this proposed law is already currently in practice. So let's study the consequences.
1) If you don't report the theft of a phone, don't be surprised if SWAT storms your house. It's happened - people realize they have to report it now. Given the prices on new phones (Apple and Samsung latest model phones are the most popular) this happens almost always. It's also pretty easy to block a phone and it's also mandatory for the phone company to block phones reported as stolen - if they don't, *they're* the ones who are liable for the consequences.
2) It's not a crime to forget to report it and it would be stupid to have that law. What happens now is that you do partially lose the presumption of innocence in that case. Prove you didn't have the phone and you weren't the one to use it. If you'd like to avoid that scenario, better report it. But it has happened, people have been swatted for something someone else did while using their phone (a very rare occurrence btw) and they have always been able to prove it wasn't them.
3) I have yet to see the criminal that reports a stolen phone at the police to avoid being caught. It might happen, but this may also risk inactivating the phone at a very inconvenient time. So I'd like to see even one example of this.
4) Did those laws prevent terrorism in NL? Not a single instance of it. But they did help to trace the people involved pretty fast.
GP answered your question about stolen phones. Kidnapping is a very different and much rarer occurrence. GP thought it through before replying, I fear you didn't.
True. Nothing is as demoralizing and leads to bad performance in class as fast as underestimating kids. It's worse than overestimating them because it's harder to spot.
So basically, the slowest kids in the district determine the pace and content of your curriculum? Good luck. You have my sympathies.
Chalking Trump 2016 on the sidewalk is something I'd pretty much ignore even if I think it won't end well if he *is* elected. I mean, I can understand a demonstration against Trump. I don't understand a demonstration against some chalk on a sidewalk.
This is what happens if you have confused identity politics instead of putting the working class (aka normal people) in the center of your politics. If anything is bad just because "it makes you feel bad" then there is literally no principle in your politics anymore. Everything is just opportunism and at the end of the day, you're a tool for the person with the loudest voice.
See http://www.reuters.com/article...
The consume 5550000000000000 kWh, which is 5550000000 GWh. So... either my calculations are off, I misinterpreted something, or it's just a drop on a hot plate.
Yeah, that's a good summary. That user interface was incredibly stupid - and lethal. Pilot error, sure. But a minor error turned into a lethal disaster because the UI made it nearly impossible to do the right thing with just seconds in which to react.
The Brits gave Hong Kong island back to China for a good reason. Shit like this belongs in the 19th century, not the 21st.
I appreciate the sentiment, but this is a pretty bad example.
The British government had a 100-year lease on the property, they did not own it. They tried to extend the lease but the Chinese were pretty insistent that they hand back their property. And since the British Empire no longer existed as such, and the Chinese army, navy and airforce were quite capable of taking the island by force, if necessary, they ground their teeth and handed it over. Lock, stock and barrel. But not before the British government quickly implemented democracy for the first time ever in Hong Kong right before the handover, just to, ah... help the Hong Kong people understand what a Western style democracy actually is. Mind you, they never had the chance to experience it before that time so it was pretty nice they got around to it. Just a pity they did it only after it became apparent they wouldn't actually be able to hold it.
Someday, someone should make a comedy about this. Although I'm not sure the inhabitants will appreciate the humour of it all.