I don't think I'm going to clarify everything. Normally I'd agree with people who say "Google it" but in this case it's pretty hard to get any meaningful response if you Google it:)
You are correct about the article, and I think Dropbox's marketing could be MUCH MUCH better. But I'm using their product and I really like it, so I thought I'd clarify.
Rather straightforward, isn't it? Why *does* a cell die, anyway? As long as it can grow and replicate, it shouldn't. Except for the telomere TTL-signal. Once we intervene in that, I think aging could be reduced or slowed drastically. I doubt there is much risk of cancer: cancer is when cells don't respond to normal apoptosis signals and keep growing. While removing the TTL-signal could be risky, I'm confident that cells with only the Time To Live removed could still respond normally to other signals. And while cancer *may* be lethal, aging is *always* lethal.
Actually, they are my own CD-rips. I still own a lot of CD's from the pre-RIAAA days, when I used to buy CD's. And I don't download much (I don't like the hassle with bittorrent etc.), except the free stuff from people like Alexander May (http://www.jamendo.com/en/track/946). Actually, most of the music I listen to comes from YouTube at the moment.
Uploading my CD's isn't legal, but I really couldn't care less. And if Amazon decided to ban me, on what basis would they do that? I'm not their customer, don't have a login with them or any discernable key they could use to find me, and disappear completely in the huge volume of data transfers in and out of S3 storage.
However, if it actually was REALLY illegal stuff I was sharing that Dropbox could be legally required to scan for: DropBox supports TrueCrypt volumes that you mount inside their folders. See, they even cater to the paranoid:)
Dropbox is several things at once, so I forgive your confusion:)
First, it's a cloudbased fileserver. You can upload your files and it will keep 2GB or more of them on the cloud (S3) for you to access. Not a big deal so far. If you pay money, you get much more space.
However, you can also give other people access to your files. And it will keep all the versions of your files. This is a bit more interesting.
THe real winner for me is that it's also a tool that you install on your PC or Mac or Linux machine. It will then use one folder (located under My Documents) and everything you store in there will be synced to the cloud. Version control and all. The tool will also inform you of any changes and if youre on a LAN with someone else whos syncing files, it will be synced to your PC directly.
Currently Im using DropBox to sync music files to a group of friends, and software updates to my customers who all have a link to a directory in the Dropbox directory.
However, the main thing I use it for is to sync ALL of my projectfiles with several other co-workers who only work on my project for a few days a week. One of them introduced me to DropBox. If anyone changes anything, I get a notification. Anyone makes an update you don't like, you can restore any previous version to any location you like. And it works without intruding, logs you on automatically and generally you don't even see it's there.
The onliest gripe I have is that you can't use TWO accounts, one for personal and another for business use, to link with the tool. And that all of the folders that you have a right to, are counted towards your total. So if a friend grants you access to his account and he stores 60 GB, you can still read but not upload anything else. Apart from that, it's a great utility.
Uhm yeah. Scum customers are what brings in the money and keeps their overlords happy. WikiLeaks is what's threatening their overlords by publicizing stuff they'd rather not let the public know about, because otherwise some people might start to take the "demo" in democracy a bit more serious that they're supposed to.
I don't see any contradiction in the actions of this bank - all I see is capitalism taking the gloves off and doing what it has always done. We can probably start the countdown for a resurgence of Marxist ideas as well. Not in the old sense (Stalinism made damn sure of that) but I can see some of the ideas becoming mainstream in more than one way, given what is happening in lots of countries and the naked greed of the bankers, combined with their decadence in displaying the goods bought with their bonusses while literally millions of workers are out in the bitter cold.
Welcome back, History. We didn't really miss you but its good to see that the predictions of your demise were premature. I like living in interesting times.
True - who can resist installing a "Low Orbit ION Cannon"? I know *I* had difficulties avoiding the installation because I was visualizing a rather large orbital platform beaming down destruction on evildoers and copyrightholders with just the press of a button:)
However, if I want to DDOS it will be through a chain of proxies, operating out of a virtual machine in Tonga that changes its IP on a daily basis, registered to several companies that trace back to a PO-box in China. Good luck getting through that. I'll start setting it up now so itwill be ready by around 2015, right when I need it:)
... what I said. YouTube is already buzzing with the new Daft Punk soundtrack. It's great and fits the mood to a T. If I didn't plan on going already, I certainly made up my mind after seeing the trailer and listening to the soundtrack. It's awesome.
It's so hot, there were about a dozen excellent remixes of it on youtube even before the release of the tunes:)
(And Slashdot please FIX THE BRAINDEAD NO-COPY-PASTE THING in the textboxes! It's annoying!)
Because I'm not Julius Assange? Because I can't afford to get arrested so I keep my mouth shut in public? Because I'm posting outside my own country under an alias?
I have friends who get arrested regularly for speaking out in public against leading politicians. I support them financially and logistically where possible, but I'm not in the position where I can afford to do the same and have my family suffer for it. I didn't care when I was single, but having a family to take care of changes things. I'm vulnerable now.
... an obvious response would be aimed not at stopping wikileaks, but at sending a message to any others out there that are thinking of doing the same thing: publish leaks, end up dead.
Which would mean that the next wikileaks site would have no official spokesperson anymore. That hasn't stopped any underground group from acting in what it thought it had to do. It just made it harder to discuss things with them.
Actually, in the Netherlands until 10 years ago you were forced to sell your house when you went in to "Bijstand", which is what you got when your unemployment benefit ran out. It's a social minimum, which basically provides for food, a very low rent and perhaps some clothes now and then.
It was found that forcing people to sell the house was not unlikely to result in permanent unemployment, because left with a huge debt and no way to earn it back, people would never get money for themselves afterwards. All they'd earn would go to the bank, forever. But on the mimimum you can't legally collect debts from someone, so they just remained on the "bijstand" and worked odd jobs for cash to get some extra.
It may look very "tough on the parasites" or something to force people to sell their assets, but all it does is ensure a permanent position in the underclass for the unlucky folk to end up there.
Yes, i found it horrible. Ofcourse, I only had a joystick and games, so I wasn't really the target audience:) But in general it was excruciatingly slow, took ages to load and the interface was visually underwhelming - especially when compared to the BBC Archimedes computer you already had then.
Ofcourse, the Amiga arrived not long after:)
Brilliant computer, it wasn't until I bought a 80486DX@50 Mhz that the speed of the CPU + graphics in Windows began to match the 7.8 Mhz 86000 CPU + coprocessors from the Amiga...
I remember using Wordperfect 5.1 and Lotus 1-2-3. Very good spreadsheet and small database program. I used a combination of Wordperfect and Pagemaker on Windows 3.11 for ages to create publications: Wordperfect was very good at editing, and Pagemaker was very good at lay-out. The combination still works better than MS Office 2007, when it comes to dealing with layout. Every time I get frustrated with the way in which MS Word just has its own mind about where to put images in text, I yearn for the days when I could tell my software where to set the picture and it actually went and stayed there.
Yes, however, that wasn't the case here. Microsoft was sued and convicted for including code in Windows to crash the kernel when they detected competing software. And they sure didn't tell anyone.
It's a good reason that I never go there unless it's end of september/october. Any other time of the year just sucks even worse. Try sneezing after spending a few hours outside and see what's there: black soot.
The measure the Chinese govt took to clamp down pollution a bit was to order everyone to only use their car on even or odd days. So a lot of people bought two cars, since you can usually either afford several, or none. There's hardly a middle ground with that in China.
I guess other measures were evaded in similar ways after a while. I expect things to get worse before they get better.
But one thing helps with this: the leaders and their families live in Beijing too. This alone will guarantee that more measures will be taken, once the chainsmokers on the board die out.
In a BI-project I now assess the maturity of the organisation before I implement anything. I've had bad experiences with implementing advanced solutions in non-technical environments: they just don't get used.
So: - Who will be maintaining the IT-infrastructure after the project is done, and is that full time or parttime? - What are the skills of said person(s)? Windows, Linux, or non-existent? - Is it the intention or even a possibility to outsource the maintenance? - Is it the intention or desire to have the option to hire additional help on demand? - Are the people in the NGO dependent on applications or software that needs to be ported to the new environment? - Do they have specific hardware requirements for specific parts of their work, that necessitates ruggedized or other non-standard equipment?
The first 4 questions determine how much leeway you have in speccing exotic software. If you have to outsource or hire, get whatever the rest of the market is getting. Otherwise you have *some* leeway there. But not much. IMO, NGO's and other non-hightech organisations just can't deal with fancy stuff, even if it is much better than the non-fancy standard stuff. It's like selling cars in Africa: yes, the latest Mercedes M-class is a beautiful car, but if I bring one to the village smith, he won't be able to repair it. Get an old Toyota Landcruiser and more often than not they have the parts lying around and can just weld something together that will get you home. Which beats dying in a remote village in an airconditioned but very comfy Mercedes.
Also, you need to know which legacy apps to maintain: if they run on Windows and you're going for Linux, good luck with that.
Finally: a web server in-house? Why? You're asking us for advise on the OS etc: the onliest reason I can think of for getting a webserver in-house these days is if you have very special requirements for the stuff you want to run on it. And since you're asking *us*, that doesn't seem to be the case. So don't do it. I've dropped our webserver like a hot potato and never regretted it, even if the hardware was free. Just securing the thing, running a firewall, configuring the firewall, maintaining the webserver, backups, etc. are very expensive compared to outsourcing it.
As for clients: I have a client (a person, not a computer) who standardizes on Apples. Cost a bit more to purchase, costs MUCH less to maintain. But here as well: you need to deal with legacy applications, training and other issues.
So without more background, any advice is meaningless. It will be great for someone, but possibly disastrous for you in your situation.
So if you don't want the full professional thingy (which I just bought as an upgrade: you can upgrade from Eclipse if you have that installed - which was a pretty good reason to install Eclipse for the first time, actually:) ) you can get a lightweight free version. You only miss out on multiple languages in one IDE, on Project Templates, and a few other minor items.
I can't imagine anyone using it as an actual replacement for even semi well-written content.
It's a bit uncomfortable to read in spots, but way above the quality of most blogs and nothing you can actually point out as an error. So if they manage not to swamp the sites in ads, and provide good statistics as well, I can't see why they couldn't get a rather large take of the advertising action - large in proportion to the manhours invested in writing articles, that is. It could be very lucrative and if it is - well, say goodbye to a lot of reporters who aren't the primetime writers but just pad out the papers: they're going to be automated away or at best, write the templates for the robowriters.
Hard to read? Disjointed? Mentally uncomfortable? Sounds like it could fit right in here on/.;-)
A clever attempt, RoboWrongSizeGlass, but not clever enough! Trying to point the finger at humans while sneaking in another templated contribution! Haha! Your plans will never work!:P
Seriously, are you suggesting our dear artists should NOT get endowed with eternal incomes from having a single album out? Or that companies should NOT be able to profit for 125 years after creating something artistic? How dare you.
The mere fact that the normals work for their money day in day out should NOT be regarded as an excuse to apply that same logic to us, the ueberpeople, who just appropriate other peoples work and can then gather the bounty for more than a century. For the risktaking we do, it's only an ample amount of payback. I mean - just one tiny ferrari, that wouldn't actually compensate for anything, right? It certainly wouldn't compensate for the size of our... never mind.
Please, continue to allow us to screw the artists out of their money with creative financial trickery, whilst reaping the benefits for ages. It would really hurt us if you hurt our bottomline. Because, after all, that's where our heart is. And unlike artists who actually have skills and can go out and do performances, all we can do is just cheat people out of their money. And if people pirate our stuff (our stuff, yes, it's not the artists stuff by any means once they sign their names in blood), where would we be?
So people, don't believe the parent poster. He's a commie. Support our business executives *oops* I mean our American Freedom Businesses For Free American People and buy more records.
Sincere greedings,
Joe M. Maker, Record Executive.
-------------- Mrs. Steen, please publish this to the idiots on the usual fora. Also, send some to the reporters we have on the standard paylist. I'm not paying them to laze about when our business is threatened. Also, call a few of the "shills" (is that what they call lobbyists nowadays?) and have them put out some tearful piece about how copyright violations create starving children, destroy Real American Jobs and create communism everywhere. Bonusses for anyone who manages to get the word "marxist" in their contributions.
Oh, and invite that cute little singer from that band that just signed over to my place for the weekend. If she says no, just explain the terms they just signed for.
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I don't think I'm going to clarify everything. Normally I'd agree with people who say "Google it" but in this case it's pretty hard to get any meaningful response if you Google it :)
You are correct about the article, and I think Dropbox's marketing could be MUCH MUCH better. But I'm using their product and I really like it, so I thought I'd clarify.
As shown by this research: http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101128/full/news.2010.635.html
Rather straightforward, isn't it? Why *does* a cell die, anyway? As long as it can grow and replicate, it shouldn't. Except for the telomere TTL-signal. Once we intervene in that, I think aging could be reduced or slowed drastically. I doubt there is much risk of cancer: cancer is when cells don't respond to normal apoptosis signals and keep growing. While removing the TTL-signal could be risky, I'm confident that cells with only the Time To Live removed could still respond normally to other signals. And while cancer *may* be lethal, aging is *always* lethal.
Actually, they are my own CD-rips. I still own a lot of CD's from the pre-RIAAA days, when I used to buy CD's. And I don't download much (I don't like the hassle with bittorrent etc.), except the free stuff from people like Alexander May (http://www.jamendo.com/en/track/946). Actually, most of the music I listen to comes from YouTube at the moment.
Uploading my CD's isn't legal, but I really couldn't care less. And if Amazon decided to ban me, on what basis would they do that? I'm not their customer, don't have a login with them or any discernable key they could use to find me, and disappear completely in the huge volume of data transfers in and out of S3 storage.
However, if it actually was REALLY illegal stuff I was sharing that Dropbox could be legally required to scan for: DropBox supports TrueCrypt volumes that you mount inside their folders. See, they even cater to the paranoid :)
Dropbox is several things at once, so I forgive your confusion :)
First, it's a cloudbased fileserver. You can upload your files and it will keep 2GB or more of them on the cloud (S3) for you to access. Not a big deal so far. If you pay money, you get much more space.
However, you can also give other people access to your files. And it will keep all the versions of your files. This is a bit more interesting.
THe real winner for me is that it's also a tool that you install on your PC or Mac or Linux machine. It will then use one folder (located under My Documents) and everything you store in there will be synced to the cloud. Version control and all. The tool will also inform you of any changes and if youre on a LAN with someone else whos syncing files, it will be synced to your PC directly.
Currently Im using DropBox to sync music files to a group of friends, and software updates to my customers who all have a link to a directory in the Dropbox directory.
However, the main thing I use it for is to sync ALL of my projectfiles with several other co-workers who only work on my project for a few days a week. One of them introduced me to DropBox. If anyone changes anything, I get a notification. Anyone makes an update you don't like, you can restore any previous version to any location you like. And it works without intruding, logs you on automatically and generally you don't even see it's there.
The onliest gripe I have is that you can't use TWO accounts, one for personal and another for business use, to link with the tool. And that all of the folders that you have a right to, are counted towards your total. So if a friend grants you access to his account and he stores 60 GB, you can still read but not upload anything else. Apart from that, it's a great utility.
Uhm yeah. Scum customers are what brings in the money and keeps their overlords happy. WikiLeaks is what's threatening their overlords by publicizing stuff they'd rather not let the public know about, because otherwise some people might start to take the "demo" in democracy a bit more serious that they're supposed to.
I don't see any contradiction in the actions of this bank - all I see is capitalism taking the gloves off and doing what it has always done. We can probably start the countdown for a resurgence of Marxist ideas as well. Not in the old sense (Stalinism made damn sure of that) but I can see some of the ideas becoming mainstream in more than one way, given what is happening in lots of countries and the naked greed of the bankers, combined with their decadence in displaying the goods bought with their bonusses while literally millions of workers are out in the bitter cold.
Welcome back, History. We didn't really miss you but its good to see that the predictions of your demise were premature. I like living in interesting times.
True - who can resist installing a "Low Orbit ION Cannon"? I know *I* had difficulties avoiding the installation because I was visualizing a rather large orbital platform beaming down destruction on evildoers and copyrightholders with just the press of a button :)
However, if I want to DDOS it will be through a chain of proxies, operating out of a virtual machine in Tonga that changes its IP on a daily basis, registered to several companies that trace back to a PO-box in China. Good luck getting through that. I'll start setting it up now so itwill be ready by around 2015, right when I need it :)
... what I said. YouTube is already buzzing with the new Daft Punk soundtrack. It's great and fits the mood to a T. If I didn't plan on going already, I certainly made up my mind after seeing the trailer and listening to the soundtrack. It's awesome.
It's so hot, there were about a dozen excellent remixes of it on youtube even before the release of the tunes :)
(And Slashdot please FIX THE BRAINDEAD NO-COPY-PASTE THING in the textboxes! It's annoying!)
Posts like this make it pretty obvious the USA never experienced either fascism or stalinism.
Well...
In Soviet Russia, Enemies of the People shoot *you*! :)
Actually, it's gambling someone elses farm at the casino - much better than using your own :)
Because I'm not Julius Assange? Because I can't afford to get arrested so I keep my mouth shut in public? Because I'm posting outside my own country under an alias?
I have friends who get arrested regularly for speaking out in public against leading politicians. I support them financially and logistically where possible, but I'm not in the position where I can afford to do the same and have my family suffer for it. I didn't care when I was single, but having a family to take care of changes things. I'm vulnerable now.
Yep - just as freedom of expression is usually reserved for those who agree with the government.
I'd show you, but I'm all out of nukes.
... an obvious response would be aimed not at stopping wikileaks, but at sending a message to any others out there that are thinking of doing the same thing: publish leaks, end up dead.
Which would mean that the next wikileaks site would have no official spokesperson anymore. That hasn't stopped any underground group from acting in what it thought it had to do. It just made it harder to discuss things with them.
Actually, in the Netherlands until 10 years ago you were forced to sell your house when you went in to "Bijstand", which is what you got when your unemployment benefit ran out. It's a social minimum, which basically provides for food, a very low rent and perhaps some clothes now and then.
It was found that forcing people to sell the house was not unlikely to result in permanent unemployment, because left with a huge debt and no way to earn it back, people would never get money for themselves afterwards. All they'd earn would go to the bank, forever. But on the mimimum you can't legally collect debts from someone, so they just remained on the "bijstand" and worked odd jobs for cash to get some extra.
It may look very "tough on the parasites" or something to force people to sell their assets, but all it does is ensure a permanent position in the underclass for the unlucky folk to end up there.
That actually looks very good - I'll give it a try. Thanks!
Yes, i found it horrible. Ofcourse, I only had a joystick and games, so I wasn't really the target audience :) But in general it was excruciatingly slow, took ages to load and the interface was visually underwhelming - especially when compared to the BBC Archimedes computer you already had then.
Ofcourse, the Amiga arrived not long after :)
Brilliant computer, it wasn't until I bought a 80486DX@50 Mhz that the speed of the CPU + graphics in Windows began to match the 7.8 Mhz 86000 CPU + coprocessors from the Amiga...
I remember using Wordperfect 5.1 and Lotus 1-2-3. Very good spreadsheet and small database program. I used a combination of Wordperfect and Pagemaker on Windows 3.11 for ages to create publications: Wordperfect was very good at editing, and Pagemaker was very good at lay-out. The combination still works better than MS Office 2007, when it comes to dealing with layout. Every time I get frustrated with the way in which MS Word just has its own mind about where to put images in text, I yearn for the days when I could tell my software where to set the picture and it actually went and stayed there.
Yes, however, that wasn't the case here. Microsoft was sued and convicted for including code in Windows to crash the kernel when they detected competing software. And they sure didn't tell anyone.
It's a good reason that I never go there unless it's end of september/october. Any other time of the year just sucks even worse. Try sneezing after spending a few hours outside and see what's there: black soot.
The measure the Chinese govt took to clamp down pollution a bit was to order everyone to only use their car on even or odd days. So a lot of people bought two cars, since you can usually either afford several, or none. There's hardly a middle ground with that in China.
I guess other measures were evaded in similar ways after a while. I expect things to get worse before they get better.
But one thing helps with this: the leaders and their families live in Beijing too. This alone will guarantee that more measures will be taken, once the chainsmokers on the board die out.
In a BI-project I now assess the maturity of the organisation before I implement anything. I've had bad experiences with implementing advanced solutions in non-technical environments: they just don't get used.
So:
- Who will be maintaining the IT-infrastructure after the project is done, and is that full time or parttime?
- What are the skills of said person(s)? Windows, Linux, or non-existent?
- Is it the intention or even a possibility to outsource the maintenance?
- Is it the intention or desire to have the option to hire additional help on demand?
- Are the people in the NGO dependent on applications or software that needs to be ported to the new environment?
- Do they have specific hardware requirements for specific parts of their work, that necessitates ruggedized or other non-standard equipment?
The first 4 questions determine how much leeway you have in speccing exotic software. If you have to outsource or hire, get whatever the rest of the market is getting. Otherwise you have *some* leeway there. But not much. IMO, NGO's and other non-hightech organisations just can't deal with fancy stuff, even if it is much better than the non-fancy standard stuff. It's like selling cars in Africa: yes, the latest Mercedes M-class is a beautiful car, but if I bring one to the village smith, he won't be able to repair it. Get an old Toyota Landcruiser and more often than not they have the parts lying around and can just weld something together that will get you home. Which beats dying in a remote village in an airconditioned but very comfy Mercedes.
Also, you need to know which legacy apps to maintain: if they run on Windows and you're going for Linux, good luck with that.
Finally: a web server in-house? Why? You're asking us for advise on the OS etc: the onliest reason I can think of for getting a webserver in-house these days is if you have very special requirements for the stuff you want to run on it. And since you're asking *us*, that doesn't seem to be the case. So don't do it. I've dropped our webserver like a hot potato and never regretted it, even if the hardware was free. Just securing the thing, running a firewall, configuring the firewall, maintaining the webserver, backups, etc. are very expensive compared to outsourcing it.
As for clients: I have a client (a person, not a computer) who standardizes on Apples. Cost a bit more to purchase, costs MUCH less to maintain. But here as well: you need to deal with legacy applications, training and other issues.
So without more background, any advice is meaningless. It will be great for someone, but possibly disastrous for you in your situation.
Visual Studio Express is now free as well: http://www.microsoft.com/express/
So if you don't want the full professional thingy (which I just bought as an upgrade: you can upgrade from Eclipse if you have that installed - which was a pretty good reason to install Eclipse for the first time, actually :) ) you can get a lightweight free version. You only miss out on multiple languages in one IDE, on Project Templates, and a few other minor items.
I can't imagine anyone using it as an actual replacement for even semi well-written content.
It's a bit uncomfortable to read in spots, but way above the quality of most blogs and nothing you can actually point out as an error. So if they manage not to swamp the sites in ads, and provide good statistics as well, I can't see why they couldn't get a rather large take of the advertising action - large in proportion to the manhours invested in writing articles, that is. It could be very lucrative and if it is - well, say goodbye to a lot of reporters who aren't the primetime writers but just pad out the papers: they're going to be automated away or at best, write the templates for the robowriters.
Hard to read? Disjointed? Mentally uncomfortable? Sounds like it could fit right in here on /. ;-)
A clever attempt, RoboWrongSizeGlass, but not clever enough! Trying to point the finger at humans while sneaking in another templated contribution! Haha! Your plans will never work! :P
Au contraire, dear friend.
Seriously, are you suggesting our dear artists should NOT get endowed with eternal incomes from having a single album out? Or that companies should NOT be able to profit for 125 years after creating something artistic? How dare you.
The mere fact that the normals work for their money day in day out should NOT be regarded as an excuse to apply that same logic to us, the ueberpeople, who just appropriate other peoples work and can then gather the bounty for more than a century. For the risktaking we do, it's only an ample amount of payback. I mean - just one tiny ferrari, that wouldn't actually compensate for anything, right? It certainly wouldn't compensate for the size of our... never mind.
Please, continue to allow us to screw the artists out of their money with creative financial trickery, whilst reaping the benefits for ages. It would really hurt us if you hurt our bottomline. Because, after all, that's where our heart is. And unlike artists who actually have skills and can go out and do performances, all we can do is just cheat people out of their money. And if people pirate our stuff (our stuff, yes, it's not the artists stuff by any means once they sign their names in blood), where would we be?
So people, don't believe the parent poster. He's a commie. Support our business executives *oops* I mean our American Freedom Businesses For Free American People and buy more records.
Sincere greedings,
Joe M. Maker,
Record Executive.
--------------
Mrs. Steen, please publish this to the idiots on the usual fora. Also, send some to the reporters we have on the standard paylist. I'm not paying them to laze about when our business is threatened. Also, call a few of the "shills" (is that what they call lobbyists nowadays?) and have them put out some tearful piece about how copyright violations create starving children, destroy Real American Jobs and create communism everywhere. Bonusses for anyone who manages to get the word "marxist" in their contributions.
Oh, and invite that cute little singer from that band that just signed over to my place for the weekend. If she says no, just explain the terms they just signed for.
- Joe.