So I'm not much of a boycott guy, but your idea seems fairly reasonable. The trick is, how many of these smaller and medium-sized, and therefore subject to this sort of pressure, labels are there in the RIAA AND how much of the RIAA's income do they account for? IOW, is this really going to make a reasonable difference or do the really big guys make up such a large percentage of RIAA funding that it doesn't matter how many little guys turn away from them?
If the numbers make sense, then I'm all for it. It wouldn't take very many people to have an impact on a smaller label and a systematic approach where one small label after another is picked off and brought back from the dark side is definitely do-able.
Yeah, definitely not in a crime sort of situation. some *-parent was referring to the privacy clauses of the not-read-by-me terms of service for facebook. My point was that if your prospective employer asked one of their employees to use their facebook account to get information about you and then subsequently didn't hire you, that might be grounds for a civil suit. I'm sure some ambulance chaser in the US would love to try it for $300/hour...
This has gone on forever. I don't remember the reasons, but there were always protests on campus and petitions about this or that floating around. I think its sort of a dynamic stasis thing where admin continually tries to control students in a way the students dislike and the students constantly push the boundaries. In my brief college experience it resulted in not a lot happening and the status quo maintaining its... status?
You could view this as another bit of education. Putting students in an environment where they can experience some of the structure and control of real life, and some of the means of effecting change, without it really affecting anything real or important.
Can you argue that you weren't hired because of your private profile that was obtained through violation of the terms and through an invasion of privacy? In other words, in our overly litigious society, you could pursue the person who allowed access to your profile in violation of those terms. Not saying its right, but I can see it.
Because the electric company doesn't charge you a flat rate for essentially unlimited usage. They charge you by the amount of electricity you use, subject to the limits of your panel. So with the electric utility, you can pull as much power as possible, provided you don't melt your wires, and they'll just charge you for it. Your typical home/small office broadband connection charges a flat rate for you to use their 4,6,8 Mbps pipe. If you push/pull the full load through that pipe, the broadband carrier doesn't get to charge you more, generally speaking, so yeah, they care if you share it. Now if you're willing to pay based on the actual bandwidth used, instead of a flat rate, then they'll be happy for you to share that puppy all over town.
My pet peeve is the phone call that gets through in the middle of a meeting forcing you to sit and wait while some ass-hat chatters on about "the game" or whatever.
The point is, what is more important to you? The person who is face to face with you or the lazy sot who can only be bothered to call. We've totally reprioritised our lives so that the disembodied voice of someone with your phone number deserves more attention than an actual person. More and more, I ignore the phone, or use it to set up face-toface appointments. Email has largely replaced the inane little phone calls back and forth with people. And email is not only on your schedule, but is ALSO on the other party's schedule too. Nobody interrupts anybody else, but the low level communication still gets done..02
Thanks for the linky, it was cool to re-read his stuff and to see that he turned it into an actual report for his ME degree. Nice. I wonder how well that paper was graded?
Well it certainly wasn't my intention to spread FUD, but to merely make the point that the politics do matter. The choice to be involved is personal and I fault no one for their involvement or lack thereof.
So to restate my point: The politics matter whether one thinks they do or not. Why? If you rely on Debian and Debian makes a choice without fully analysing the politics of it and the choice ends up bringing down Debian, on which you rely, then it has mattered to you. How's that for a nice piece of circular, insufficiently-caffeinated logic for ya!:)
And again, to be involved in these sorts of decisions or not is a personal matter and I believe no one should be pulled into it unwillingly. But to claim these things don't matter is just wrong. IMVHO.
with the availability of cheap music artists lose their incentive to create.
I can tell you from direct experience, that artists do not always create for money. Many times I've played my ass off for a few dollars and would do it again. Why? Because I love it. simple. Would I do it for free forever? Probably not, but I'll do it for a pittance for a long-ass time.
Nothing about using linux or writing OSS, requires me to jump on your political bandwagon.
You're absolutely right, and that's what's great about it. You can take it or leave it however you like. You can choose to ignore the politics of the situation or not. Debian chooses to NOT ignore the politics, plain and simple.
However, I think its largely disingenuous to claim that the politics don't matter to you.
I'm sure that open source is an ideal to you, but to most people it is not. It is software, and it is a business model to me and many others. It isn't inherently political to use it, and it's annoying when people try to drag the rest of us into their political battles.
You can ignore it, but it does matter. You've based a business model on OSS. What will you do when the gov't legislates OSS out of existence? (yes I know it's highly unlikely, but for arguments sake) Or what will you do when one of the licenses get trumped in court somehow? Or a critical piece of code falls to copyright suit? You can bet your damn bippy that the politics of it will matter to you then. And it is your political battle, just as a supreme court battle is your political battle, ignore it though you might. Some people choose to pay attention to these issues in advance while others sit on the sidelines (me too, frankly) and wait to see what happens..02
Um, I think you're missing the point too. How do you keep from sucking up the water in said bong? Plus do they have ice cubes in the shuttle? Cause nothin' beats the ice-bong at sunrise...
which comes what, every two hours for them? sweet.
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how exactly is a widget on a ribbontab thingy a shortcut? This is stupid writing at best. First thing I saw in the article and I had to dump it. What happened to Ctrl-[x|c|v]? those are shortcuts.
Reading all this stuff I've come a conclusion. In order to "properly" use Windows, there is just as much mucking around with admin tasks as when using Linux. All these people say how difficult linux is as a user experience, but then you realise that windows users are essentially ignoring or working-around security, something that jsut isn't done by default in linux. There are repeated remarks here about having to change file and registry permissions and using "RunAs" in order to PROPERLY use windows as a non-admin user. We do this stuff everyday in linux. That's a crucial part of the difference in user experience between the two. Windows users simply aren't doing this stuff. And not because they "don't have to" or "shouldn't" but because they don't know or choose to ignore it.
In fact, because linux typically does a good job of being ready for non-root users, the experience is BETTER. Out of the box, just about everything runs properly with proper permissions etc.
And for the record, I use both: Debian Sid on my work box, various versions of Debian on my server, router and mythtv box, and XP on my family/play machine. And yes, I run the XP box as admin.:)
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See, we usually use open source products when we have to solve problems where w[e] don't get any money to spend on said problem. Now, if i need a bugfix fast, than i would have to pay those 200 bucks from my own money, and probably won't get the money refunded from my company. Now, this isn't the software developers fault in any way, but other people that work for other companys also have the same problem.
If you have to do projects with no money, then there are bigger problems than whether a bugfix is in CVS. And for FSM's sake, don't go out of pocket for your employer without some confidence that you'll be reimbursed. If your employer isn't willing to shell out $ to get a fix when the alternative is $$$ for the commercial option, well then your employer has some priority problems.
no flaming intended and I know nothing about your situation, just a first impression.
It's not back-peddle, it's back-pedal. You know, like pedalling backwards to slow or stop a bicycle. Back-peddling would be essentially going from door-to-door BUYING things from people.
So basically IT security experts can't test their own networks?
Of course. If the security folks can test and secure their networks, then the gub'ment can't get in as easily... I'm mean come on. You can't expect the government to sit idly by and not harvest as much info as possible, can you?
thanks. for years I've wondered exactly where a jillion and bazillion fall in the Grand Scheme of Numbers (tm). Now I know that half a jillion is some sub-set of a bazillion. A little more research and I'll be able to place things like a heck-of-a-lot, a shit-pile, and a whole-bunch. woot -- slashdot pays off everyday.
You've hit the nail on the head. Back in the day (heh) when you turned on the box it just sat there and blinked at you. period. You either had to shell out the bucks for a cartridge game, (or if you were lucky find a disk based game) or you had to program the thing. Otherwise it was a box.
Couple that with the manuals that came with and a subscription to C64 or whatever they called that mag. and you were not only forced to learn but were given the tools to learn as well. I can remember hours of typing in BASIC code from the back of the magazine to get some game to work. If it didn't work, then you hard to parse through the whole thing and figure out what was wrong and fix it. Even if you typed it in right the first time, you still learned by osmosis.
And there were some really cool projects in the magazines, too, beyond games: life, a 6510 assembly compiler, along with a brief tutorial, a weather tracking database that would make reasonably accurate predictions, an AI project that responded to your questions and would "converse" with you. All kinds of really great stuff.
Compare that with todays situation: most everything you could want to do has already been done. And, unless you give your kid a CLI only linux install, the distractions are too great.
My plan for my kids is at around age 10, they get a computer with linux with no gui. I'll teach them how to get into a language interpreter for something like LOGO, or BASIC, or whatever, and then let them at it. When they figure out how to install the GUI, they can have it... Until then, they have to figure it out for themselves. I'll help them write a simple text editor so they can do school papers etc. Hopefully, over the span of a few years they'll progress through the levels of computing until they are at the current level. Then, if they choose to code, great, but if they don't at least they'll understand what's going on under the hood.
If people migrate away from windows, the solution for many hardware manufactures will be to support linux.
Does anybody around here remember when they had to buy different bits of hardware for different computers? When, for example, the modem for one computer wouldn't work in another because of hardware differences? or OS differences? There was a time, and it wasn't all that long ago, that you had to actually look at the box to see if your OS or hardware was supported. Now, with the windows monopoly, that is something that rarely needs to be done. That seems great, except its another sign of people not having to think, just consume. The reality is that its not that hard to buy linux compatible hardware and its getting easier all the time. I would say that most of the commodity hardware used by everyday users is supported out of the box. So, really, you mostly don't have to rebuy all your hardware to switch to linux. In fact the more you KEEP your hardware, the more linux works with it and then the better it works. I get much better performance from my linux boot than my XP boot on the same machine. this "hardware compatibility" argument is rapidly dying, IMHO..02
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So I'm not much of a boycott guy, but your idea seems fairly reasonable. The trick is, how many of these smaller and medium-sized, and therefore subject to this sort of pressure, labels are there in the RIAA AND how much of the RIAA's income do they account for? IOW, is this really going to make a reasonable difference or do the really big guys make up such a large percentage of RIAA funding that it doesn't matter how many little guys turn away from them?
If the numbers make sense, then I'm all for it. It wouldn't take very many people to have an impact on a smaller label and a systematic approach where one small label after another is picked off and brought back from the dark side is definitely do-able.
Yeah, definitely not in a crime sort of situation. some *-parent was referring to the privacy clauses of the not-read-by-me terms of service for facebook. My point was that if your prospective employer asked one of their employees to use their facebook account to get information about you and then subsequently didn't hire you, that might be grounds for a civil suit. I'm sure some ambulance chaser in the US would love to try it for $300/hour...
This has gone on forever. I don't remember the reasons, but there were always protests on campus and petitions about this or that floating around. I think its sort of a dynamic stasis thing where admin continually tries to control students in a way the students dislike and the students constantly push the boundaries. In my brief college experience it resulted in not a lot happening and the status quo maintaining its... status?
You could view this as another bit of education. Putting students in an environment where they can experience some of the structure and control of real life, and some of the means of effecting change, without it really affecting anything real or important.
Can you argue that you weren't hired because of your private profile that was obtained through violation of the terms and through an invasion of privacy? In other words, in our overly litigious society, you could pursue the person who allowed access to your profile in violation of those terms. Not saying its right, but I can see it.
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Because the electric company doesn't charge you a flat rate for essentially unlimited usage. They charge you by the amount of electricity you use, subject to the limits of your panel. So with the electric utility, you can pull as much power as possible, provided you don't melt your wires, and they'll just charge you for it. Your typical home/small office broadband connection charges a flat rate for you to use their 4,6,8 Mbps pipe. If you push/pull the full load through that pipe, the broadband carrier doesn't get to charge you more, generally speaking, so yeah, they care if you share it. Now if you're willing to pay based on the actual bandwidth used, instead of a flat rate, then they'll be happy for you to share that puppy all over town.
My pet peeve is the phone call that gets through in the middle of a meeting forcing you to sit and wait while some ass-hat chatters on about "the game" or whatever.
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The point is, what is more important to you? The person who is face to face with you or the lazy sot who can only be bothered to call. We've totally reprioritised our lives so that the disembodied voice of someone with your phone number deserves more attention than an actual person. More and more, I ignore the phone, or use it to set up face-toface appointments. Email has largely replaced the inane little phone calls back and forth with people. And email is not only on your schedule, but is ALSO on the other party's schedule too. Nobody interrupts anybody else, but the low level communication still gets done.
Someone else provided links back to that original article. He's updated his design and even written a paper for his ME. check it out.
Thanks for the linky, it was cool to re-read his stuff and to see that he turned it into an actual report for his ME degree. Nice. I wonder how well that paper was graded?
Well it certainly wasn't my intention to spread FUD, but to merely make the point that the politics do matter. The choice to be involved is personal and I fault no one for their involvement or lack thereof.
:)
So to restate my point: The politics matter whether one thinks they do or not. Why? If you rely on Debian and Debian makes a choice without fully analysing the politics of it and the choice ends up bringing down Debian, on which you rely, then it has mattered to you. How's that for a nice piece of circular, insufficiently-caffeinated logic for ya!
And again, to be involved in these sorts of decisions or not is a personal matter and I believe no one should be pulled into it unwillingly. But to claim these things don't matter is just wrong. IMVHO.
Sorry for the splattering.
with the availability of cheap music artists lose their incentive to create.
I can tell you from direct experience, that artists do not always create for money. Many times I've played my ass off for a few dollars and would do it again. Why? Because I love it. simple. Would I do it for free forever? Probably not, but I'll do it for a pittance for a long-ass time.
You're absolutely right, and that's what's great about it. You can take it or leave it however you like. You can choose to ignore the politics of the situation or not. Debian chooses to NOT ignore the politics, plain and simple.
However, I think its largely disingenuous to claim that the politics don't matter to you.
You can ignore it, but it does matter. You've based a business model on OSS. What will you do when the gov't legislates OSS out of existence? (yes I know it's highly unlikely, but for arguments sake) Or what will you do when one of the licenses get trumped in court somehow? Or a critical piece of code falls to copyright suit? You can bet your damn bippy that the politics of it will matter to you then. And it is your political battle, just as a supreme court battle is your political battle, ignore it though you might. Some people choose to pay attention to these issues in advance while others sit on the sidelines (me too, frankly) and wait to see what happens.
Um, I think you're missing the point too. How do you keep from sucking up the water in said bong? Plus do they have ice cubes in the shuttle? Cause nothin' beats the ice-bong at sunrise...
which comes what, every two hours for them? sweet.
Word offers shortcuts for the clipboard (cut, copy, paste)
how exactly is a widget on a ribbontab thingy a shortcut? This is stupid writing at best. First thing I saw in the article and I had to dump it. What happened to Ctrl-[x|c|v]? those are shortcuts.
Reading all this stuff I've come a conclusion. In order to "properly" use Windows, there is just as much mucking around with admin tasks as when using Linux. All these people say how difficult linux is as a user experience, but then you realise that windows users are essentially ignoring or working-around security, something that jsut isn't done by default in linux. There are repeated remarks here about having to change file and registry permissions and using "RunAs" in order to PROPERLY use windows as a non-admin user. We do this stuff everyday in linux. That's a crucial part of the difference in user experience between the two. Windows users simply aren't doing this stuff. And not because they "don't have to" or "shouldn't" but because they don't know or choose to ignore it.
:)
In fact, because linux typically does a good job of being ready for non-root users, the experience is BETTER. Out of the box, just about everything runs properly with proper permissions etc.
And for the record, I use both: Debian Sid on my work box, various versions of Debian on my server, router and mythtv box, and XP on my family/play machine. And yes, I run the XP box as admin.
See, we usually use open source products when we have to solve problems where w[e] don't get any money to spend on said problem. Now, if i need a bugfix fast, than i would have to pay those 200 bucks from my own money, and probably won't get the money refunded from my company. Now, this isn't the software developers fault in any way, but other people that work for other companys also have the same problem.
If you have to do projects with no money, then there are bigger problems than whether a bugfix is in CVS. And for FSM's sake, don't go out of pocket for your employer without some confidence that you'll be reimbursed. If your employer isn't willing to shell out $ to get a fix when the alternative is $$$ for the commercial option, well then your employer has some priority problems.
no flaming intended and I know nothing about your situation, just a first impression.
Dude, this is so annoying.
It's not back-peddle, it's back-pedal. You know, like pedalling backwards to slow or stop a bicycle. Back-peddling would be essentially going from door-to-door BUYING things from people.
Damn you ID idiots are annoying.
So basically IT security experts can't test their own networks?
Of course. If the security folks can test and secure their networks, then the gub'ment can't get in as easily... I'm mean come on. You can't expect the government to sit idly by and not harvest as much info as possible, can you?
why not put out pdf's?
have you tried C-x C-s C-x C-c ?
Oh. I thought you were simply living up to your nick :)
chromosome 19 with more genes / Mb than elsewhere
luckily, this amazing breakthrough will help you store chr19 in less space.
thanks. for years I've wondered exactly where a jillion and bazillion fall in the Grand Scheme of Numbers (tm). Now I know that half a jillion is some sub-set of a bazillion. A little more research and I'll be able to place things like a heck-of-a-lot, a shit-pile, and a whole-bunch. woot -- slashdot pays off everyday.
Nice!
You've hit the nail on the head. Back in the day (heh) when you turned on the box it just sat there and blinked at you. period. You either had to shell out the bucks for a cartridge game, (or if you were lucky find a disk based game) or you had to program the thing. Otherwise it was a box.
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Couple that with the manuals that came with and a subscription to C64 or whatever they called that mag. and you were not only forced to learn but were given the tools to learn as well. I can remember hours of typing in BASIC code from the back of the magazine to get some game to work. If it didn't work, then you hard to parse through the whole thing and figure out what was wrong and fix it. Even if you typed it in right the first time, you still learned by osmosis.
And there were some really cool projects in the magazines, too, beyond games: life, a 6510 assembly compiler, along with a brief tutorial, a weather tracking database that would make reasonably accurate predictions, an AI project that responded to your questions and would "converse" with you. All kinds of really great stuff.
Compare that with todays situation: most everything you could want to do has already been done. And, unless you give your kid a CLI only linux install, the distractions are too great.
My plan for my kids is at around age 10, they get a computer with linux with no gui. I'll teach them how to get into a language interpreter for something like LOGO, or BASIC, or whatever, and then let them at it. When they figure out how to install the GUI, they can have it... Until then, they have to figure it out for themselves. I'll help them write a simple text editor so they can do school papers etc. Hopefully, over the span of a few years they'll progress through the levels of computing until they are at the current level. Then, if they choose to code, great, but if they don't at least they'll understand what's going on under the hood.
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If people migrate away from windows, the solution for many hardware manufactures will be to support linux.
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Does anybody around here remember when they had to buy different bits of hardware for different computers? When, for example, the modem for one computer wouldn't work in another because of hardware differences? or OS differences? There was a time, and it wasn't all that long ago, that you had to actually look at the box to see if your OS or hardware was supported. Now, with the windows monopoly, that is something that rarely needs to be done. That seems great, except its another sign of people not having to think, just consume. The reality is that its not that hard to buy linux compatible hardware and its getting easier all the time. I would say that most of the commodity hardware used by everyday users is supported out of the box. So, really, you mostly don't have to rebuy all your hardware to switch to linux. In fact the more you KEEP your hardware, the more linux works with it and then the better it works. I get much better performance from my linux boot than my XP boot on the same machine. this "hardware compatibility" argument is rapidly dying, IMHO.