This really get me too. If what you believe is TRUTH then it doesn't matter what else you study. In fact, further study would only bring one back around to the TRUTH. I think its a matter of not being secure in your knowledge of truth. Many of us who "believe" in evolution are secure in that belief and can therefore study and learn whatever we want without fear. I am happy to study many religions and their histories and beliefs because I KNOW what I believe and am happy with that. The rest of it only expands my understanding of the world.
If, on the other hand, you are not truly secure in your beliefs, but feel that you NEED to believe what you are told to, then you better not study something else. It could only serve to further weaken you faith.
calling Google. Due to unusually heavy call volume your search will not be executed for approximately.31 seconds. We appreciate your call, please stay online for the next available operator.
"Thank you for calling Google, how can I help you?"
"ummm... hi... I'd like to search for anime boobs"
"Alright, lets see here is the first result out of 807,000 in.31 seconds. Anime Pics. drink my piss hentai pokemon free asian videos. Rikku hentai anime demons inuyasha hentai, hardcore nude anime boobs free shit eating pics.... humman-traffic.erospace.pl/hentai/anime-pics. html - 10k - May 4, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages"... I don't get it. Wouldn't be easier just to browse to a website?
The duplication is done right away the modification occured in the main disk. (from the comments below article)
Another reason to build a high speed backbone. Getting my 80GB harddrive image from Seattle, while I'm in Norfolk would be a lot of downtime. (parent)
Seems that this thing will sync up everytime you call home. So when you're on the road downloading that just updated massive PPT presentation for your conference.... you'll be downloading one copy from the server while the server is desperately trying update its image of your disk back the other way. Lets just arbitrarily double our bandwidth requirements!
I get your point, but I think you'd be surprised how many people likely share your view and would be willing to jump on board. I would imagine that many an OSS project was begun by one person thinking they were essentially writing something for only themselves only to watch it grow well beyond that.
I sense a little "ownership" in your comments that make me think that you might, in the long run, be unhappy with the results that come of your idea. What if, and this is all for arguments sake, the ideas you espouse in your documentary are taken up by many many enlightened people who massage it, expand and develop it, buy into it and ultimately change it into something you do not agree with? Or, what if, in their research and development of the ideas they determine, collectively, that your ideas are flawed and the project ends up denouncing its own original idea? All these I think are interesting possibilities in an open source project like you have suggested. It will be interesting to watch what happens, eh?
As for my previous post, I was looking at a project from the ground up where a person such as yourself has a germ of an idea for a film and posts that idea, and maybe a basic sketch of the project and opens it from that point on. You are creating a final product and then looking for others to take it over. Sort of different things altogether I suppose.
I think it would be interesting to watch something from the ground up though. Imagine if Hollywood ran that way? all movies began as a post to a bulletin board somewhere and the studios only picked those ones that had good significant action from the community at large and had developed to a certain point? Might make for some interesting movies with real plots and real character development and all the good stuff, plus great piles of pr0n thrown in for good measure. wow!
Why not use a "Release candidate" structure for everything up to shooting footage, then when your script, content, structure etc is ready for "Release" you can send the whole thing to a team to shoot it. For example, you can have collaborators submitting transcripts of interviews and the like with the stipulation that the subject agrees to be interviewed on camera at a later date. Collaborators can submit still frames of key moments in particular bits of stock footage. They could even submit video for once-in-a-lifetime events that could later be segued to effectively within the final version.
That way you get the consistent look and feel of having one (or more) "units" shooting the film all at once. You can get consistent production values by having one team be responsible for the bulk of the raw footage.
Then enter a second "open" phase where the entire raw footage is available for OSS type collaboration on the editing side until a "Final Release Cut" is obtained and you execute the cuts and edits and release the final version.
My point is -- why should people "not expect that much anyway"? By putting a little structure in to the project at the beginning, you could probably come up with some really good results. A little cooperation from some more professional videographers for that one phase of shooting the thing could add tons of value to the project while leaving the pre- and post- production areas fully open.
With Debian sliding further into irrelevency, we're now left with only the commercial, professional distributions to fall back on; and we are all sadder and poorer for that lack.
If this is really the case and you (and many other posters) believe that the world is worse for Debian sliding into irrelevence, then why not do something about it? get involved!
Plus I'm guessing, since the buzz on debian-users list has been "release before summer" (I know, I know, just gossip) that when that release does come, many of you will be heralding the return of Debian. Of course, they'll be releasing what many of us already run (testing, that is) so no biggie, but still, my first point remains. If the world needs Debian, then get on board instead of decrying its demise..02
This idea, along with offsite backups mentioned in other reply, make sense. Cost of mass storage devices is constantly falling. Never delete anything, just archive it deeper and deeper into your ever growing hard drives. As one fills, mirror it over to a second larger one and so on. As new technology comes out, there is always a time period where both the old and new tech can work on the same machine so cobble together a cross-technology mirror and keep on rolling. Eventually we'll all have multiple terabyte thumb drives in mirrored arrays with offsite dupes and we'll have every bit of data we've ever generated.
Frankly, I think lots of people do this already (well, okay, one -- me). Whenever I upgrade a machine, I just take the old harddrive out and cram it in the new one while I'm migrating. At some point(weeks or months later), I go through the old drive with a fine-toothed comb and grab whatever last things are left on there that interest me. (Then wipe the old drive, put it back in the old machine and turn it into yet another legacy hardware linux box that doesn't really have a purpose but is fun to playwith.) Before long I'm doing it again. result is that my harddrive has some really old crap on it that I keep dragging behind me. If I added the mirrored drive, i'd be pretty damn secure.
Obviously since the "Relevance" of these files is different, they must be different files. If you have two identical files and one is more relevant than the other... wait... aw crap it is a fake. Damn! I had my credit card out and everything!
I am quite familiar with this concept and others (like the torus {or in our case the hyper-torus} which leads to the enigmatic Asteroids screen-wrap) That still begs the question though... what's outside?
How many of the objects we see are actually 3D "slices" of 4D objecets? Are we 3D slices of 4d objects and thus our "Conscience" is a by-product of our 4D-ness? so many questions....
Let's say we've reached the edge of the universe, what happens when we step beyond that boundary? What is out there that would possibly hold back further expansion of our universe?
this has plagued me for a long time. "they" say that there is nothing outside the universe, usually implying not even empty space (?) and now this. And still, if the universe is finite, it must have an edge (in some dimension or other for you torus types) and so what's out there? I suspect its something sticky or gooey and probably blueish-grey.
Yes that's it for sure. Man its killing me.
This leads me to wonder, as well, about the extra 80% or so of our brains that are floating around "unused" in our heads? similar effect? is consciousness the by product of this sort of quantum effect? ugh - must drink more beer.
I hope I'm remembering this correctly, 'cause if not someone will surely blast me for it... (If someone knows what I'm referring to, I'd love to get an update and accurate information.)
Seems to me there was a bit about this years (like maybe 8 or 10 or more) ago where someone had built a bunch of simple boxes and set up a set of tasks for them to perform, a system for the box to re-write or evolve its own code, and a reward system for good performance.
They let this dozen of so boxes percolate for a while and then cracked 'em open to see what they'd done.
The machines had all come up with different methods of getting really good results for their assigned tasks. Further inquiry showed that the machiens were actually exploiting quantum level effects in their processors to maximize efficieny. The processors at the quantum level had significant differences or "flaws" and thus each box had come up with its own custom code exploiting these unique "flaws".
The researchers were disappointed because they couldn't use the technique to automatically write super-efficient code as it would only work on the machine on which it was evolved.
But still a cool concept with awesome ramifications -- it you extrapolate it into machines that can actually replicate themselves and not just their code, the possibilities seem mind-boggling. Machines replicating new machines with inherited quantum level traits with code optimized for those traits etc. etc. etc. yikes!
I thought that same thing as soon as I read the article. Should be fairly straight forward to provide a software means for doing this. Simply average the mouse's movements over a short period of time that you adjust based on the frequency or your tremor, then align the pointer based on that average. Or adjust some scale that is based on the range of motion a tremor produces.
I operate a retail establishment in a building built in 1899. In this building, which included residential apartments in the 2nd and 3rd floor, there was a radical new design concept. The builders included these new fangled structures that would capture not only sunlight, but also fresh air and direct it down into the building. Each of the interior apartments (that is those which do not abut an exterior wall of the building) had direct access to this high-technology installation. The resident could directly control the flow of air, or the amount of light, by a set of separately operating "shutters" that would open and close with a simple push.
These contraptions were called light wells.
The "shutters" were called windows and curtains.
Amazing technology.
Now they are "improving" it by making new smaller light wells that don't allow fresh air to flow. I suppose if you're gonna give up your pasty complexion, you might want to breathe some fresh air too... I don't know, maybe I'm just old fashioned.
I suppose we're wandering a little OT here, but...
here's another case: a band collectively writes a song. The band as a collective unit owns the copyright. drummer leaves, new drummer comes in and learns song. he becomes copyright holder by virtue of being a band member? guitarist leaves and is replaced and so on. At what point does the copyright die? or do pieces of the copyright migrate out with the original band members? if song was truly collectively written then does it die when the original collective drifts apart?
do successful bands form some kind of legal structure that then ends up owning the copyrights instead ofthe individual members?
I think the whole issue just gets too messy. You could argue that book editors own a part of the copyright of a book they've worked on as its final form was dependent on their input. There are just so many ways to argue that different people have some part ownership of some copyright. There used to be a time when a songwriter or poet or whatever would tell their story in exchange for a few pints , a meal and a place to crash for the night. If someone else learned their works and wandered off to do the same, good for them....
Once the copyright holder is died, I can appreciate there being a limited amount of time during which his or her estate may benefit from the copyright, but in my opinion once that time is up, that should be the end of it.
so what happens when the copyright holder is a corporation with an unlimited lifespan?
Slashdot Mirror
I guess I really don't see the point, unless you can't type? or maybe you want to provide a search page for someone else?
Seems more like wow that's cool factor than anything of use.
I'm waiting for the day when I can pick up the mouse, and in a scottish brogue say "Computer? Computer!?" and get a response...
This really get me too. If what you believe is TRUTH then it doesn't matter what else you study. In fact, further study would only bring one back around to the TRUTH. I think its a matter of not being secure in your knowledge of truth. Many of us who "believe" in evolution are secure in that belief and can therefore study and learn whatever we want without fear. I am happy to study many religions and their histories and beliefs because I KNOW what I believe and am happy with that. The rest of it only expands my understanding of the world.
If, on the other hand, you are not truly secure in your beliefs, but feel that you NEED to believe what you are told to, then you better not study something else. It could only serve to further weaken you faith.
what a load of crap.
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.31 seconds. Anime Pics. drink my piss hentai pokemon free asian videos. Rikku hentai anime demons inuyasha hentai, hardcore nude anime boobs free shit eating pics. .... html - 10k - May 4, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages" ... I don't get it. Wouldn't be easier just to browse to a website?
"Thank you for calling Google, how can I help you?"
"ummm... hi... I'd like to search for anime boobs"
"Alright, lets see here is the first result out of 807,000 in
humman-traffic.erospace.pl/hentai/anime-pics
Translation:
Rover operators are optimistic they can extricate the robot from its jam
sure thing boss, no problem, get it right out of there (oh crap, we're screwed)
having gotten dug in before
Yes boss, we've done it before, no problem(I can't believe we got stuck dune hopping again, this never happens with my r/c cars at home...)
but we're really going to take our time doing it
It'll only take a little while... (OH @#$& I just dug it in deeper, whats on Monster.com?)
The duplication is done right away the modification occured in the main disk.
(from the comments below article)
Another reason to build a high speed backbone. Getting my 80GB harddrive image from Seattle, while I'm in Norfolk would be a lot of downtime. (parent)
Seems that this thing will sync up everytime you call home. So when you're on the road downloading that just updated massive PPT presentation for your conference.... you'll be downloading one copy from the server while the server is desperately trying update its image of your disk back the other way. Lets just arbitrarily double our bandwidth requirements!
Yet the article speaks of network hubs, et al powered this way. Imagine the tech support calls:
n00b: I've got my two PoE computers and my PoE printer plugged into my PoE hub, why don't they work?
tech: AAARGGGGHHH!!!!! [bang] [flop]
I get your point, but I think you'd be surprised how many people likely share your view and would be willing to jump on board. I would imagine that many an OSS project was begun by one person thinking they were essentially writing something for only themselves only to watch it grow well beyond that.
I sense a little "ownership" in your comments that make me think that you might, in the long run, be unhappy with the results that come of your idea. What if, and this is all for arguments sake, the ideas you espouse in your documentary are taken up by many many enlightened people who massage it, expand and develop it, buy into it and ultimately change it into something you do not agree with? Or, what if, in their research and development of the ideas they determine, collectively, that your ideas are flawed and the project ends up denouncing its own original idea? All these I think are interesting possibilities in an open source project like you have suggested. It will be interesting to watch what happens, eh?
As for my previous post, I was looking at a project from the ground up where a person such as yourself has a germ of an idea for a film and posts that idea, and maybe a basic sketch of the project and opens it from that point on. You are creating a final product and then looking for others to take it over. Sort of different things altogether I suppose.
I think it would be interesting to watch something from the ground up though. Imagine if Hollywood ran that way? all movies began as a post to a bulletin board somewhere and the studios only picked those ones that had good significant action from the community at large and had developed to a certain point? Might make for some interesting movies with real plots and real character development and all the good stuff, plus great piles of pr0n thrown in for good measure. wow!
Why not use a "Release candidate" structure for everything up to shooting footage, then when your script, content, structure etc is ready for "Release" you can send the whole thing to a team to shoot it. For example, you can have collaborators submitting transcripts of interviews and the like with the stipulation that the subject agrees to be interviewed on camera at a later date. Collaborators can submit still frames of key moments in particular bits of stock footage. They could even submit video for once-in-a-lifetime events that could later be segued to effectively within the final version.
That way you get the consistent look and feel of having one (or more) "units" shooting the film all at once. You can get consistent production values by having one team be responsible for the bulk of the raw footage.
Then enter a second "open" phase where the entire raw footage is available for OSS type collaboration on the editing side until a "Final Release Cut" is obtained and you execute the cuts and edits and release the final version.
My point is -- why should people "not expect that much anyway"? By putting a little structure in to the project at the beginning, you could probably come up with some really good results. A little cooperation from some more professional videographers for that one phase of shooting the thing could add tons of value to the project while leaving the pre- and post- production areas fully open.
just a thought.
So this guy paid $30 with a $30 rebate.... hmmm... I think you got screwed 'cause he got $30 back... oh wait, he paid more tax....ummm....
Too damn confusing...
In a world full of mutts, the master is the one holding the leash.
With Debian sliding further into irrelevency, we're now left with only the commercial, professional distributions to fall back on; and we are all sadder and poorer for that lack.
.02
If this is really the case and you (and many other posters) believe that the world is worse for Debian sliding into irrelevence, then why not do something about it? get involved!
Plus I'm guessing, since the buzz on debian-users list has been "release before summer" (I know, I know, just gossip) that when that release does come, many of you will be heralding the return of Debian. Of course, they'll be releasing what many of us already run (testing, that is) so no biggie, but still, my first point remains. If the world needs Debian, then get on board instead of decrying its demise.
This idea, along with offsite backups mentioned in other reply, make sense. Cost of mass storage devices is constantly falling. Never delete anything, just archive it deeper and deeper into your ever growing hard drives. As one fills, mirror it over to a second larger one and so on. As new technology comes out, there is always a time period where both the old and new tech can work on the same machine so cobble together a cross-technology mirror and keep on rolling. Eventually we'll all have multiple terabyte thumb drives in mirrored arrays with offsite dupes and we'll have every bit of data we've ever generated.
Frankly, I think lots of people do this already (well, okay, one -- me). Whenever I upgrade a machine, I just take the old harddrive out and cram it in the new one while I'm migrating. At some point(weeks or months later), I go through the old drive with a fine-toothed comb and grab whatever last things are left on there that interest me. (Then wipe the old drive, put it back in the old machine and turn it into yet another legacy hardware linux box that doesn't really have a purpose but is fun to playwith.) Before long I'm doing it again. result is that my harddrive has some really old crap on it that I keep dragging behind me. If I added the mirrored drive, i'd be pretty damn secure.
Obviously since the "Relevance" of these files is different, they must be different files. If you have two identical files and one is more relevant than the other... wait... aw crap it is a fake. Damn! I had my credit card out and everything!
AH HA! But then where do those damn little spaceships going bweep-bweep-bweep come from! Hunh?!
I thought so!
nyah
I am quite familiar with this concept and others (like the torus {or in our case the hyper-torus} which leads to the enigmatic Asteroids screen-wrap) That still begs the question though... what's outside?
How many of the objects we see are actually 3D "slices" of 4D objecets? Are we 3D slices of 4d objects and thus our "Conscience" is a by-product of our 4D-ness? so many questions....
Many studies(like this one find that light slows down over time.
seems in that article they still like E=MC^2
so does this mean that the totally energy of the universe is decreasing? or is total mass increasing to make E a constant?
but then...
on another note: does this mean that our quest for speed-of-light travel should focus on waiting for C to approach 70 MPH?
Is this like trying to pick up the soap in the shower?
Let's say we've reached the edge of the universe, what happens when we step beyond that boundary? What is out there that would possibly hold back further expansion of our universe?
this has plagued me for a long time. "they" say that there is nothing outside the universe, usually implying not even empty space (?) and now this. And still, if the universe is finite, it must have an edge (in some dimension or other for you torus types) and so what's out there? I suspect its something sticky or gooey and probably blueish-grey.
Yes that's it for sure. Man its killing me. This leads me to wonder, as well, about the extra 80% or so of our brains that are floating around "unused" in our heads? similar effect? is consciousness the by product of this sort of quantum effect? ugh - must drink more beer.
I hope I'm remembering this correctly, 'cause if not someone will surely blast me for it... (If someone knows what I'm referring to, I'd love to get an update and accurate information.)
Seems to me there was a bit about this years (like maybe 8 or 10 or more) ago where someone had built a bunch of simple boxes and set up a set of tasks for them to perform, a system for the box to re-write or evolve its own code, and a reward system for good performance.
They let this dozen of so boxes percolate for a while and then cracked 'em open to see what they'd done.
The machines had all come up with different methods of getting really good results for their assigned tasks. Further inquiry showed that the machiens were actually exploiting quantum level effects in their processors to maximize efficieny. The processors at the quantum level had significant differences or "flaws" and thus each box had come up with its own custom code exploiting these unique "flaws".
The researchers were disappointed because they couldn't use the technique to automatically write super-efficient code as it would only work on the machine on which it was evolved.
But still a cool concept with awesome ramifications -- it you extrapolate it into machines that can actually replicate themselves and not just their code, the possibilities seem mind-boggling. Machines replicating new machines with inherited quantum level traits with code optimized for those traits etc. etc. etc. yikes!
that when you read the text in MozillaZine posts that the little blimp appears to actually float as it sits off in the periphery there?
spending way to much time glued to this box!
I thought that same thing as soon as I read the article. Should be fairly straight forward to provide a software means for doing this. Simply average the mouse's movements over a short period of time that you adjust based on the frequency or your tremor, then align the pointer based on that average. Or adjust some scale that is based on the range of motion a tremor produces.
I operate a retail establishment in a building built in 1899. In this building, which included residential apartments in the 2nd and 3rd floor, there was a radical new design concept. The builders included these new fangled structures that would capture not only sunlight, but also fresh air and direct it down into the building. Each of the interior apartments (that is those which do not abut an exterior wall of the building) had direct access to this high-technology installation. The resident could directly control the flow of air, or the amount of light, by a set of separately operating "shutters" that would open and close with a simple push.
These contraptions were called light wells.
The "shutters" were called windows and curtains.
Amazing technology.
Now they are "improving" it by making new smaller light wells that don't allow fresh air to flow. I suppose if you're gonna give up your pasty complexion, you might want to breathe some fresh air too... I don't know, maybe I'm just old fashioned.
I suppose we're wandering a little OT here, but...
here's another case: a band collectively writes a song. The band as a collective unit owns the copyright. drummer leaves, new drummer comes in and learns song. he becomes copyright holder by virtue of being a band member? guitarist leaves and is replaced and so on. At what point does the copyright die? or do pieces of the copyright migrate out with the original band members? if song was truly collectively written then does it die when the original collective drifts apart?
do successful bands form some kind of legal structure that then ends up owning the copyrights instead ofthe individual members?
I think the whole issue just gets too messy. You could argue that book editors own a part of the copyright of a book they've worked on as its final form was dependent on their input. There are just so many ways to argue that different people have some part ownership of some copyright. There used to be a time when a songwriter or poet or whatever would tell their story in exchange for a few pints , a meal and a place to crash for the night. If someone else learned their works and wandered off to do the same, good for them....
Once the copyright holder is died, I can appreciate there being a limited amount of time during which his or her estate may benefit from the copyright, but in my opinion once that time is up, that should be the end of it.
so what happens when the copyright holder is a corporation with an unlimited lifespan?