If you really think that Windows hasn't improved over the years, then you are very blind. It is true that Windows isn't perfect, and has a ways to go in some regards, but what OS is perfect in an all-around sense? Now you can try to claim that Linux might be more stable, lets you do this or that with the source code, but it has its downfalls with the interface or lack of configurability for the regular user
Linux has had major development in all the areas you say it lacks in. Mac over the last 5 years has also seen major development. I have seen very little come from windows since win 2000 (yes i have played with some of the longhorn beta's)
(as well as lack of software).
No doubt windows is farther in software than others, its the most used OS so why program for anything else?
OS X is probably just as good as Windows in alot of regards, but might be lacking in software options in some areas as well. But atleast right now, Windows still has an incredible amount of software, which is what is keeping alot of people from switching over to other operating systems. What good is an operating system without any software? What does this have to do with windows development?
Their approach is surely is more well-thought out than Linux's half-baked user interface. Some flavors of Linux have come a long way in that regards, such as RedHat or Suse to name a few, but alot of times you end up having to go to the command-line to configure something. That is not the way an average user wants to do things.
When i said half baked patchy approach i meant that they sometimes have patches for patches. and how is gnome or kde half-baked?
Microsoft has digitally signed drivers, which have been tested in labs to work with their built-in drivers. It is not hard to use other drivers instead of those. In alot of cases they don't automatically install the software for you, and even if they did, you can always go to the control panel and change to your own drivers (which might be better or worse). In my experience, the custom drivers are rarely better, and mostly worse, than the default ones.
But they still insist upon using the windows ones
Again, there are custom programs which you can use if the default ones with Windows don't work to your specifications. You make it seem as if you can't actually use the client software. I have used a custom wireless manager with my XP system in the past without any problems.
Both Gnome and KDE have it built in and you'll have major problems if you dont want to use Windows NDIS 5.0 drivers for your networking
Internet Explorer has been tightly integrated into the OS for a long time now. Old story, nothing to see here. How exactly is Outlook integrated into the OS in the same fashion as IE though?
Both are non removable both pose a security risk other programs in the OS can exploit them.
In regards to bundling of software, do you mean such programs as Windows Media Player, Messenger, etc? How is this any different than most of the Linux distributions? They come with all types of software. You might argue that most of them are free, but even with the commercial Linux offerings, it is the same thing as far as I can tell.
In windows your forced to have those along with things like pinball on your computer. In linux you can install and uninstall anything and everything almost
2) Riiiiight. I'm really sure 2000 and XP aren't an improvement over Windows 95.
2000 and XP are way diffrent than 95.
Windows '95, '98 and ME are descended from DOS and Windows 3.x, and contain significant portions of old 16-bit legacy code. These Windows versions are essentially DOS-based, with 32-bit extensions. Process and resource management, memory protection and security were added as an afterthought and are rudimentary at best. This Windows product line is totally unsuited for applications where security and reliability are an issue. It is completely insecure, e.g. it may ask for a password but it won't mind if you don't supply one. There is no way to prevent the user or the applications from accessing and possibly corrupting the entire system (including the file system), and each user can alter the system's configuration, either by mistake or deliberately. The Windows 9x/ME line primarily targets consumers (although Windows '95 marketing was aimed at corporate users as well).
The other Windows product line includes Windows NT, 2000 and XP, and the server products. This Windows family is better than the 9x/ME line; at least these versions use new (i.e. post-DOS) 32-bit code. Memory protection, resource management and security are a bit more serious than in Windows 9x/ME, and they even have some support for access restrictions and a secure filesystem. That doesn't mean that this Windows family is as reliable and secure as Redmond's marketeers claim, but compared to Windows 9x/ME its additional features at least have the advantage of being there at all. But even this Windows line contains a certain amount of 16-bit legacy code, and the entire 16-bit subsystem is a direct legacy from Microsoft's OS/2 days with IBM. In short, all 16-bit applications share one 16-bit subsystem (just as with OS/2). There's no internal memory protection, so one 16-bit application may crash all the others and the the entire 16-bit subsystem as well. This may create persistent locks from the crashed 16-bit code on 32-bit resources, and eventually bring Windows to a halt. Fortunately this isn't much of a problem anymore now that 16-bit applications have all but died out.
Of course Windows has seen a lot of development over the years. But in fact very little has really improved. The new features in new versions of Windows all show the same half-baked, patchy approach. For each fixed problem, at least one new problem is introduced (and often more than one). Windows XP for example comes loaded with more applications and features than ever before. While this may seem convenient at first sight, the included features aren't as good as those provided by external software. For example, XP insists on supporting DSL ("wideband Internet") networking, scanners and other peripherals with the built-in Microsoft code instead of requiring third-party code. So you end up with things like DSL networking that uses incorrect settings (and no convenient way to change that), scanner support that won't let you use your scanner's photocopy feature, or a digital camera interface that will let you download images from the camera but you can't use its webcam function. WiFi network cards are even more of a problem: where manufacturers could include their own drivers and client manager software in previous versions of Windows, users are now forced to use XP's native WiFi support. Unfortunately XP's WiFi support is full of problems that cause wireless PCs to loose their connection to the wireless access point with frustrating regularity. Also XP's native WiFi support lacks extra functions (such as advanced multiple-profile management) that manufacturers used to include in their client software. And of course applications (such as Internet Explorer and Outlook) have been integrated in the operating system more tightly than ever before, and more formerly separate products have been bundled with the operating system.
YES... but win 2000 is now un supported so i'm thinking they will re-release it with a flashy new name and GUI so people buy it again and think they are getting a new windows!
Silly Microsoft, people don't judge a book by its cover... WAIT! they do:-(
Well just to start i'll tell a bit about my self, Im a grade 12 student at Bishop O Byrne high school.
If you have 90 days get the system setup to do everything on the network as fast as you can (you only have 90 days) set it up as if you where going to replace your current computers and then do just that, put it where it is suppose to go if you where to buy one. See the load it gets and log everything.
Your not part of a multi billion dollar company teachers and students can make it without the internet (its true!) tell them its a network upgrade.
In my school district there is quite a few day a year when the network and computers don't work, guess what we survived!
I run quite a few servers for hosting companys and whenever the datacenter gets blocked by some one like spamcop or maps that is the reason they give you for being on the list. they rarely investigate the spam they just block the datacenters.
http://www.spamhaus.org/ is the only one I have never had a problem with, I just told them who it was (well they told me the domain name) and deleted the account spamhaus removed us within minutes.
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Have you tried not using Windows NDIS 5.0 drivers? Not very easy.
If you really think that Windows hasn't improved over the years, then you are very blind. It is true that Windows isn't perfect, and has a ways to go in some regards, but what OS is perfect in an all-around sense? Now you can try to claim that Linux might be more stable, lets you do this or that with the source code, but it has its downfalls with the interface or lack of configurability for the regular user
Linux has had major development in all the areas you say it lacks in. Mac over the last 5 years has also seen major development. I have seen very little come from windows since win 2000 (yes i have played with some of the longhorn beta's)
(as well as lack of software).
No doubt windows is farther in software than others, its the most used OS so why program for anything else?
OS X is probably just as good as Windows in alot of regards, but might be lacking in software options in some areas as well. But atleast right now, Windows still has an incredible amount of software, which is what is keeping alot of people from switching over to other operating systems. What good is an operating system without any software?
What does this have to do with windows development?
Their approach is surely is more well-thought out than Linux's half-baked user interface. Some flavors of Linux have come a long way in that regards, such as RedHat or Suse to name a few, but alot of times you end up having to go to the command-line to configure something. That is not the way an average user wants to do things.
When i said half baked patchy approach i meant that they sometimes have patches for patches.
and how is gnome or kde half-baked?
Microsoft has digitally signed drivers, which have been tested in labs to work with their built-in drivers. It is not hard to use other drivers instead of those. In alot of cases they don't automatically install the software for you, and even if they did, you can always go to the control panel and change to your own drivers (which might be better or worse). In my experience, the custom drivers are rarely better, and mostly worse, than the default ones.
But they still insist upon using the windows ones
Again, there are custom programs which you can use if the default ones with Windows don't work to your specifications. You make it seem as if you can't actually use the client software. I have used a custom wireless manager with my XP system in the past without any problems.
Both Gnome and KDE have it built in and you'll have major problems if you dont want to use Windows NDIS 5.0 drivers for your networking
Internet Explorer has been tightly integrated into the OS for a long time now. Old story, nothing to see here. How exactly is Outlook integrated into the OS in the same fashion as IE though?
Both are non removable both pose a security risk other programs in the OS can exploit them.
In regards to bundling of software, do you mean such programs as Windows Media Player, Messenger, etc? How is this any different than most of the Linux distributions? They come with all types of software. You might argue that most of them are free, but even with the commercial Linux offerings, it is the same thing as far as I can tell.
In windows your forced to have those along with things like pinball on your computer. In linux you can install and uninstall anything and everything almost
2) Riiiiight. I'm really sure 2000 and XP aren't an improvement over Windows 95.
2000 and XP are way diffrent than 95.
Windows '95, '98 and ME are descended from DOS and Windows 3.x, and contain significant portions of old 16-bit legacy code. These Windows versions are essentially DOS-based, with 32-bit extensions. Process and resource management, memory protection and security were added as an afterthought and are rudimentary at best. This Windows product line is totally unsuited for applications where security and reliability are an issue. It is completely insecure, e.g. it may ask for a password but it won't mind if you don't supply one. There is no way to prevent the user or the applications from accessing and possibly corrupting the entire system (including the file system), and each user can alter the system's configuration, either by mistake or deliberately. The Windows 9x/ME line primarily targets consumers (although Windows '95 marketing was aimed at corporate users as well).
The other Windows product line includes Windows NT, 2000 and XP, and the server products. This Windows family is better than the 9x/ME line; at least these versions use new (i.e. post-DOS) 32-bit code. Memory protection, resource management and security are a bit more serious than in Windows 9x/ME, and they even have some support for access restrictions and a secure filesystem. That doesn't mean that this Windows family is as reliable and secure as Redmond's marketeers claim, but compared to Windows 9x/ME its additional features at least have the advantage of being there at all. But even this Windows line contains a certain amount of 16-bit legacy code, and the entire 16-bit subsystem is a direct legacy from Microsoft's OS/2 days with IBM. In short, all 16-bit applications share one 16-bit subsystem (just as with OS/2). There's no internal memory protection, so one 16-bit application may crash all the others and the the entire 16-bit subsystem as well. This may create persistent locks from the crashed 16-bit code on 32-bit resources, and eventually bring Windows to a halt. Fortunately this isn't much of a problem anymore now that 16-bit applications have all but died out.
Of course Windows has seen a lot of development over the years. But in fact very little has really improved. The new features in new versions of Windows all show the same half-baked, patchy approach. For each fixed problem, at least one new problem is introduced (and often more than one). Windows XP for example comes loaded with more applications and features than ever before. While this may seem convenient at first sight, the included features aren't as good as those provided by external software. For example, XP insists on supporting DSL ("wideband Internet") networking, scanners and other peripherals with the built-in Microsoft code instead of requiring third-party code. So you end up with things like DSL networking that uses incorrect settings (and no convenient way to change that), scanner support that won't let you use your scanner's photocopy feature, or a digital camera interface that will let you download images from the camera but you can't use its webcam function. WiFi network cards are even more of a problem: where manufacturers could include their own drivers and client manager software in previous versions of Windows, users are now forced to use XP's native WiFi support. Unfortunately XP's WiFi support is full of problems that cause wireless PCs to loose their connection to the wireless access point with frustrating regularity. Also XP's native WiFi support lacks extra functions (such as advanced multiple-profile management) that manufacturers used to include in their client software. And of course applications (such as Internet Explorer and Outlook) have been integrated in the operating system more tightly than ever before, and more formerly separate products have been bundled with the operating system.
Hey its more like they would have years to figure out what they wanted to do if its only a little less than 2 billion a year.
I forgot about the phantom for the last 6 months!
YES... but win 2000 is now un supported so i'm thinking they will re-release it with a flashy new name and GUI so people buy it again and think they are getting a new windows!
:-(
Silly Microsoft, people don't judge a book by its cover... WAIT! they do
Here's the HTML:
<HTML>
<BODY>
<IMG SRC="./imagecrash.jpg" width="9999999" height="9999999">
</BODY>
</HTML>
http://ha.ckers.org/imagecrash.html
Haven't tried anything else.
Here's the HTML:
Its the NEW high tech schools!
Well just to start i'll tell a bit about my self, Im a grade 12 student at Bishop O Byrne high school.
If you have 90 days get the system setup to do everything on the network as fast as you can (you only have 90 days) set it up as if you where going to replace your current computers and then do just that, put it where it is suppose to go if you where to buy one. See the load it gets and log everything.
Your not part of a multi billion dollar company teachers and students can make it without the internet (its true!) tell them its a network upgrade.
In my school district there is quite a few day a year when the network and computers don't work, guess what we survived!
I just noticed they where the same as the artical 2 maxtor diamondmax plus 9 120's
All my WDC's are good though
I just had 2 maxors Die in the last week! I think maxors are set to self distruct in april-may.
If I was to hack a site I would not do it for an xbox I could go to the store and get a used one for $90.
If they really wanted me to hack it it would have to at least have to be for a full $1000+ computer and i would not disclose to them how i did it.
I doubt this will get hacked, people have better things to hack (worth more)
"It just works... Half the time"
A guy down the street from me does it for rodgers wireless, He has a truck though got all the other goodies except 3 laptops. dont know why he needs 3
He didn't say that he did relay the spam.
I run quite a few servers for hosting companys and whenever the datacenter gets blocked by some one like spamcop or maps that is the reason they give you for being on the list. they rarely investigate the spam they just block the datacenters.
http://www.spamhaus.org/ is the only one I have never had a problem with, I just told them who it was (well they told me the domain name) and deleted the account spamhaus removed us within minutes.
I guess I'll have to steal from the store! (Its not as bad if i get caught)
You could all see the real me, you'ed all be to scared though! ugly am I!
One word, Awesome!