Yeah, this is slightly odd, considering Intel's use of FreeBSD in other products. Of course, Intel tries to be OS-agnostic, but at least on the surface seems to snub Microsoft a bit -- probably going back to when Microsoft gave the AMD 486 a "Windows Compatible" logo.
Better question: Why Intel? AMD K6 processors would be cheaper, and BeOS/Stinger would be much more friendly!
If these are going to be used as phones, why not overclock the processor to 900MHz (or 2.4 GHz!) to match the frequency of cordless phones?
This would settle those occasional comments about CPU frequency interfering with radio frequency and vice versa, since they don't.
AnandTech, Sharky Extreme, Adrenaline Vault, and Ars Technica seem to have screenshots of a new overclocking record every week or two. I believe it currently stands at ~1300MHz -- is 2.4GHz unreasonable to think?
You left Apple when working for money was no longer an issue, founded your own new ventures, and became a philanthropist -- I immensely respect that on several levels.
How do you feel about comparisons between you and Paul Allen, who did much the same thing?
(BTW, Woz, you are the coolest guy in computing. JWZ, RMS, ESR, and Torvalds can't even hope to know and do as much as you have!)
What did you expect? It's running Quarterdeck WebStar, which is a Mac HTTP "daemon". Check out the headers: HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: WebSTAR/4.0(SSL) ID/72450 Connection: Close Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 18:41:08 GMT Content-Type: text/html Content-Length: 2439 Last-Modified: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:18:20 GMT
The U.S. Army seems to think WebStar will work, but frankly, I've never seen Macs really stand up to a multiuser beating too well, even if it only serves static pages.
How many more of these friggin' "of the decade/century/millenium" articles are we going to have to endure for the next week?
Call me picky, but as we all know, though many prefer to deny it, is that the decade/century/millenium doesn't start until MMI -- when you see it in roman numerals, it makes a whole lot more sense, doesn't it?
Besides, all of these "of the millenium" and "of the century lists are horribly weighted on the last 25% of the period in question... --
The code is right here, depending on how you look at it. Rob's got a few million dollars, but apparently no time to update any of the pages that don't maintain themselves, let alone the code for the Slash engine. There's also PHPSlash, which probably works faster and better, but I don't have a link to it. PHP isn't free in RMS terms, more than close enough...
Maybe Andover wants to keep that code a secret -- security by obscurity works, ya know;)... --
FWIW, you can't do jack with NT from the CLI. You can change your password, but cannot perform any other kind of user managment. You can connect to shares on the network, but you can't create any. If you want to do anything more advanced than that, forget about it.
Why are NT admins skinnier than UNIX admins? The UNIX guys don't spend all day running from machine to machine! --
Considering the common notion that the G4 is fast, multiple G4's are obviously the next logical step. The problem becomes: what would I do with G4-MP???
The MacOS seems infinitely capable -- why must it do all of them so poorly and/or primitively? MP support on a Macintosh works out to be a few specific Adobe apps crudely hacked to run two parallel threads on separate CPU's. The OS doesn't natively support any kind of MP, and 90% of Mac apps simply 'stay at home' on CPU 0. If there were more than ten apps used on a Mac (Adobe software, M$ Office, Quark, and Nutscrape), I'm sure that percentage would be higher.
Linux SMP is coming along (but admit it, it's not even up to pace with NT, let alone BeOS), but Yellow Dog only has half-assed support for the G4. Then there is the problem of getting it from kernel 2.2 to 2.4 in the next couple of months...
Apple's OS X is a way off, and given the hardware used in their systems since the introduction of the iMac, would you be able to find any other UN*X that supports bizarre foreign hardware like USB keyboards and mice?
Just imagine a bitchin' Beowulf cluster of MP G4's with a functional OS! =) --
Compared to Slackware, it's sexier, much easier, and better engineered (esp. if you don't know exactly what you're doing, which covers just about everyone).
Compared to Red Hat, see all of the above, then add faster. Slackware can be much more optimized than Red Hat by several other measures. Of course, it doesn't work at all on Athlons, and the boost is not especially noticeable.
Love? Depends on who you ask, and how you feel about Linux in general. If I could only use Linux on my desktop, but had a choice in distros, Mandrake would be it. Then again, if I could pick anything, it would be NT -- it works for me, and I know its ins and outs.
IMO, Mandrake is fantastic, if only because it fixes a lot of what's wrong with Red Hat, including KDE, but much more these days. The only problem is that Red Hat generally stinks, and Mandrake can't/won't fix it for compatibility reasons. I'm especially irritated with the verbose (and usually redundant) use of ".bash_profile", and its mucking around with ISSUE files at startup with rc.local, which leads to my own question:
I've worked on BIND and Apache servers, but haven't had any interest in Linux for my desktop until recently. Are there any distros based on Debian or Slackware that do KDE as nicely as Mandrake, or would I have to spend HOURS doing it manually, and DAYS figuring out new concepts and config files? --
Proprietary software also creates jobs for "Local, good skilled programmers", and it additionally gives jobs to the developers of the software -- the authors of free software work for free...
Shrinkwrapped proprietary software suits about 90% of people's needs right out of the box, and they have the added feature of being a known quantity -- the code hasn't forked, so it only needs to be reviewed once. Y2K wouldn't be the big deal it was if there wasn't 20 year old, custom COBOL code needing auditing on thousands of corporate/government mainframes. These days, it's called "integration" or "solution development", and it's no different.
It's important to decide which way you want to go -- free software isn't always the cheapest, custom software isn't always the safest, and shrinkwrapped software isn't always the best...
Yet Another Freakin' Brazilian Software Article There, I got to go trolling in context. Where is that guy? I haven't seen that post in a while...
This doesn't make sense. There's idealism, and then there's practicality. The government of Brazil seems to be just a little too much of the former.
Free software is just that -- software. The (sigh) MONEY comes in when you sell related "services". Obviously, they aren't free. To paraphrase jwz, free software is only free if your time (or someone else's) is worthless. Depending on the situation, you may spend (more || less) for (better || worse) software.
It's a good idea to look at all the options. Perhaps free software alone does suit your needs, but there are many, many "Ask Slashdot" questions that seem to suggest that OSS can't do everything for everyone.
Robin, would you like something to wash down that foot? The Brazilian government chose to make violent video games the scapegoat -- you made it cocaine.
People like to draw conclusions that match their personal convictions and blame the problem on something else. If you like violent games, you blame cocaine, and vice versa. Personally, I think it's got everything to do with boredom, watching overdubbed American sitcoms on Brazilian TV. We'll never REALLY know why it happened -- trying to find the WHY and pointing the finger elsewhere isn't going to do any good.
Speaking of futile quests to find meaning in things that have none, I feel another JonKatz article coming on...
The only thing lamer than a rehashed game with more 3D eye candy and higher system requirements is a ban on them. Darwinism works here -- eventually people are going to get sick of playing Wolfen^H^H^H^H^H^H Quake (and its pretenders) on their own -- we needn't extend that period by adding attractive taboos...
Interesting, this was posted as game news, not as a censorship article...
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I must continue the Slashdot tradition of saying that all of this has been done before.
First of all, because there is frequently more interesting stuff there than here, and these guys need promotion, is that GeekNews posted this article to their website a couple of days ago.
Second, the first married couple in space flew on the U.S. Space Shuttle a few years ago. There was talk of this back then, the official line was that it wasn't going to happen, but if you had the opportunity, would you pass it up? methinks not.
NSI has done stupid things like this before. A customer of the ISP where I used to work wanted to register a personal domain name which was kind of clever, and still available. We submitted a "new domain" request, using the correct template with all the necessary information.
A week later, we still hadn't heard anything, which wasn't unusual, but definitely a LONG time, and we resent the request. That "new domain" request DID come back a few days later, but it said that the domain was already taken, and indeed it was -- the "created" date was one or two days after we had made the second request...
I trust Microsoft much more than Network Solutions...
You know, the one with the ant commercials and red blocks that make you think it's a Dodge commercial, but the name that sounds like a Ford minivan.
Of course, they have that loopy logo that looks like a Meta key on an Apple, and of course the obvious similarities to the name of a Microsoft product or fifteen...
I realize that I can just turn his articles off, but I'd much rather bitch about JonKatz everytime he posts an article.
I don't think a site that uses "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters" as a slogan should really be posting social commentary. If commentary must be posted, appropriately place it in a "ghetto" section just like YRO and the much more relevant Apache and BSD articles.
Katz is U.S.-centric, while the Slashdot community is international. How about voices from other corners of the globe? .
Katz writes about shootings, riots, etc. Why not something lighthearted, or even positive?
I wasn't impressed with The Sixth Sense. I have no problem with slow-building movies, e.g. The Ususal Suspects, but I felt annoyed at the end, thinking "They made us put up with all of that just for a plot twist?" Puh-leeze...
I can't explain the lag other than wonder if they are just trying to figure out how to put failed domestic flops in the black by marketing them differently. Americans certainly don't bite on the "star appeal" bait quite as hard as Europeans -- we're too cynical and jaded.
While I don't think an easter egg containing credits for the authors would violate the GPL, I wonder if it would satisfy the deprecated "advertisement" clause in the BSD license.
Is Linux "too serious" for easter eggs, or has some humor been put into the kernel and libc?
Red Hat should save themselves a little bit of cash and make an investment into TrollTech and/or KDE instead. If Qt were GPL'd, there would no longer be any justification for using the less sophisticated GNOME over KDE for "philosophical reasons". KOffice would reign, and the savings could be applied toward the bottom line. "Red Hat in the black" (like SuSE) is a headline that has great appeal to serious stockholders.
Steam wears off quickly -- Netscape^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HAOL is now taking handouts from Red Hat to keep Mozilla going, just a few short years after that promising IPO. WordPerfect (on its own) has already proven to be an unwise move, and their Windows and Mac software is just excess baggage. Those users won't switch to Linux, they'll switch to Macromedia/Adobe/Microsoft/et al. Novell sure couldn't leverage the WordPerfect name, I don't think the fedora is gonna sell many more copies...
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Yeah, this is slightly odd, considering Intel's use of FreeBSD in other products. Of course, Intel tries to be OS-agnostic, but at least on the surface seems to snub Microsoft a bit -- probably going back to when Microsoft gave the AMD 486 a "Windows Compatible" logo.
Better question: Why Intel?
AMD K6 processors would be cheaper, and BeOS/Stinger would be much more friendly!
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Right, but BSD's licensing terms would suit them that much better -- in fact, other packaged products built/sold by Intel do use BSD.
Here's a /. story about it from last week.
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If these are going to be used as phones, why not overclock the processor to 900MHz (or 2.4 GHz!) to match the frequency of cordless phones?
This would settle those occasional comments about CPU frequency interfering with radio frequency and vice versa, since they don't.
AnandTech, Sharky Extreme, Adrenaline Vault, and Ars Technica seem to have screenshots of a new overclocking record every week or two. I believe it currently stands at ~1300MHz -- is 2.4GHz unreasonable to think?
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You left Apple when working for money was no longer an issue, founded your own new ventures, and became a philanthropist -- I immensely respect that on several levels.
How do you feel about comparisons between you and Paul Allen, who did much the same thing?
(BTW, Woz, you are the coolest guy in computing. JWZ, RMS, ESR, and Torvalds can't even hope to know and do as much as you have!)
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HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: WebSTAR/4.0(SSL) ID/72450
Connection: Close
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 18:41:08 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 2439
Last-Modified: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 19:18:20 GMT
The U.S. Army seems to think WebStar will work, but frankly, I've never seen Macs really stand up to a multiuser beating too well, even if it only serves static pages.
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Wait a little bit, then visit Woz.com for the answers -- I'm waiting, myself.
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How many more of these friggin' "of the decade/century/millenium" articles are we going to have to endure for the next week?
Call me picky, but as we all know, though many prefer to deny it, is that the decade/century/millenium doesn't start until MMI -- when you see it in roman numerals, it makes a whole lot more sense, doesn't it?
Besides, all of these "of the millenium" and "of the century lists are horribly weighted on the last 25% of the period in question...
--
Maybe Andover wants to keep that code a secret -- security by obscurity works, ya know ;)...
--
FWIW, you can't do jack with NT from the CLI. You can change your password, but cannot perform any other kind of user managment. You can connect to shares on the network, but you can't create any. If you want to do anything more advanced than that, forget about it.
Why are NT admins skinnier than UNIX admins? The UNIX guys don't spend all day running from machine to machine!
--
Considering the common notion that the G4 is fast, multiple G4's are obviously the next logical step. The problem becomes: what would I do with G4-MP???
The MacOS seems infinitely capable -- why must it do all of them so poorly and/or primitively? MP support on a Macintosh works out to be a few specific Adobe apps crudely hacked to run two parallel threads on separate CPU's. The OS doesn't natively support any kind of MP, and 90% of Mac apps simply 'stay at home' on CPU 0. If there were more than ten apps used on a Mac (Adobe software, M$ Office, Quark, and Nutscrape), I'm sure that percentage would be higher.
Linux SMP is coming along (but admit it, it's not even up to pace with NT, let alone BeOS), but Yellow Dog only has half-assed support for the G4. Then there is the problem of getting it from kernel 2.2 to 2.4 in the next couple of months...
Apple's OS X is a way off, and given the hardware used in their systems since the introduction of the iMac, would you be able to find any other UN*X that supports bizarre foreign hardware like USB keyboards and mice?
Just imagine a bitchin' Beowulf cluster of MP G4's with a functional OS! =)
--
Compared to Slackware, it's sexier, much easier, and better engineered (esp. if you don't know exactly what you're doing, which covers just about everyone).
Compared to Red Hat, see all of the above, then add faster. Slackware can be much more optimized than Red Hat by several other measures. Of course, it doesn't work at all on Athlons, and the boost is not especially noticeable.
Love? Depends on who you ask, and how you feel about Linux in general. If I could only use Linux on my desktop, but had a choice in distros, Mandrake would be it. Then again, if I could pick anything, it would be NT -- it works for me, and I know its ins and outs.
IMO, Mandrake is fantastic, if only because it fixes a lot of what's wrong with Red Hat, including KDE, but much more these days. The only problem is that Red Hat generally stinks, and Mandrake can't/won't fix it for compatibility reasons. I'm especially irritated with the verbose (and usually redundant) use of ".bash_profile", and its mucking around with ISSUE files at startup with rc.local, which leads to my own question:
I've worked on BIND and Apache servers, but haven't had any interest in Linux for my desktop until recently. Are there any distros based on Debian or Slackware that do KDE as nicely as Mandrake, or would I have to spend HOURS doing it manually, and DAYS figuring out new concepts and config files?
--
Proprietary software also creates jobs for "Local, good skilled programmers", and it additionally gives jobs to the developers of the software -- the authors of free software work for free...
Shrinkwrapped proprietary software suits about 90% of people's needs right out of the box, and they have the added feature of being a known quantity -- the code hasn't forked, so it only needs to be reviewed once. Y2K wouldn't be the big deal it was if there wasn't 20 year old, custom COBOL code needing auditing on thousands of corporate/government mainframes. These days, it's called "integration" or "solution development", and it's no different.
It's important to decide which way you want to go -- free software isn't always the cheapest, custom software isn't always the safest, and shrinkwrapped software isn't always the best...
Which is yet another reason you'll never see this "nigger" go any farther south than Chicago.
At least you figured out what the subject line was implying -- you must be one of those "smart" people in Alabama who know how to read.
Is the state of the U.S. space program a surprise to anyone? It's run entirely by the intellectually and culturally enlightened people in the South!
Yet
Another
Freakin'
Brazilian
Software
Article
There, I got to go trolling in context. Where is that guy? I haven't seen that post in a while...
This doesn't make sense. There's idealism, and then there's practicality. The government of Brazil seems to be just a little too much of the former.
Free software is just that -- software. The (sigh) MONEY comes in when you sell related "services". Obviously, they aren't free. To paraphrase jwz, free software is only free if your time (or someone else's) is worthless. Depending on the situation, you may spend (more || less) for (better || worse) software.
It's a good idea to look at all the options. Perhaps free software alone does suit your needs, but there are many, many "Ask Slashdot" questions that seem to suggest that OSS can't do everything for everyone.
Let's just let this thread die -- PLEASE. You're in serious danger of being subjected to the death penalty provisioned in your signature :) .
Robin, would you like something to wash down that foot? The Brazilian government chose to make violent video games the scapegoat -- you made it cocaine.
People like to draw conclusions that match their personal convictions and blame the problem on something else. If you like violent games, you blame cocaine, and vice versa. Personally, I think it's got everything to do with boredom, watching overdubbed American sitcoms on Brazilian TV. We'll never REALLY know why it happened -- trying to find the WHY and pointing the finger elsewhere isn't going to do any good.
Speaking of futile quests to find meaning in things that have none, I feel another JonKatz article coming on...
Interesting, this was posted as game news, not as a censorship article...
I must continue the Slashdot tradition of saying that all of this has been done before.
First of all, because there is frequently more interesting stuff there than here, and these guys need promotion, is that GeekNews posted this article to their website a couple of days ago.
Second, the first married couple in space flew on the U.S. Space Shuttle a few years ago. There was talk of this back then, the official line was that it wasn't going to happen, but if you had the opportunity, would you pass it up? methinks not.
Here is a good place to start looking for ideas -- notice that Itanium was registered a while back...
NSI has done stupid things like this before. A customer of the ISP where I used to work wanted to register a personal domain name which was kind of clever, and still available. We submitted a "new domain" request, using the correct template with all the necessary information.
A week later, we still hadn't heard anything, which wasn't unusual, but definitely a LONG time, and we resent the request. That "new domain" request DID come back a few days later, but it said that the domain was already taken, and indeed it was -- the "created" date was one or two days after we had made the second request...
I trust Microsoft much more than Network Solutions...
You know, the one with the ant commercials and red blocks that make you think it's a Dodge commercial, but the name that sounds like a Ford minivan.
Of course, they have that loopy logo that looks like a Meta key on an Apple, and of course the obvious similarities to the name of a Microsoft product or fifteen...
What is Winstar, anyway?
(oh, and boo-hoo for it 8b )
I realize that I can just turn his articles off, but I'd much rather bitch about JonKatz everytime he posts an article.
I don't think a site that uses "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters" as a slogan should really be posting social commentary. If commentary must be posted, appropriately place it in a "ghetto" section just like YRO and the much more relevant Apache and BSD articles.
How about voices from other corners of the globe?
.
Why not something lighthearted, or even positive?
I wasn't impressed with The Sixth Sense. I have no problem with slow-building movies, e.g. The Ususal Suspects, but I felt annoyed at the end, thinking "They made us put up with all of that just for a plot twist?" Puh-leeze...
I can't explain the lag other than wonder if they are just trying to figure out how to put failed domestic flops in the black by marketing them differently. Americans certainly don't bite on the "star appeal" bait quite as hard as Europeans -- we're too cynical and jaded.
While I don't think an easter egg containing credits for the authors would violate the GPL, I wonder if it would satisfy the deprecated "advertisement" clause in the BSD license.
Is Linux "too serious" for easter eggs, or has some humor been put into the kernel and libc?
Earlier today, this article on Slashdot talks about their financial involvment with Sendmail and the Mozilla Project, and the previous rumors about the acquisition of Cygnus turned out to be true.
Red Hat should save themselves a little bit of cash and make an investment into TrollTech and/or KDE instead. If Qt were GPL'd, there would no longer be any justification for using the less sophisticated GNOME over KDE for "philosophical reasons". KOffice would reign, and the savings could be applied toward the bottom line. "Red Hat in the black" (like SuSE) is a headline that has great appeal to serious stockholders.
Steam wears off quickly -- Netscape^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HAOL is now taking handouts from Red Hat to keep Mozilla going, just a few short years after that promising IPO. WordPerfect (on its own) has already proven to be an unwise move, and their Windows and Mac software is just excess baggage. Those users won't switch to Linux, they'll switch to Macromedia/Adobe/Microsoft/et al. Novell sure couldn't leverage the WordPerfect name, I don't think the fedora is gonna sell many more copies...