Life, water... these are common enough that it would not be earth shaking (though important). We are discovering planets orbiting around other stars thst have water, maybe with the possibility of life and yes, that is big. A planet of single celled organisms or simple structure creatures clustered around vent holes is not the same thing as discovering something not natural that precedes humans.
I respect, truly respect science that explores the building blocks of life and can find it fascinating to consider something growing outside our planet. My point about imagination (mainly for humor) is that when talking about earth shaking discoveries, life as a microbe is just not as amazing as life defined by made structures. Imagine we discover a Dyson sphere (or ring), imagine we discover some type of structure on Mars. Not only does it show life outside Earth exists (existed), but it was intelligent. That should blow our minds as a species and that I would find Earth Shaking..
Besides what will get mankind to Mars faster? Discovery that at some point water flowed on Mars and may be under the surface, some speck of licing dna, or a building/structure buried in the Mars sand.
y'all don't have any imagination. Life...meh. Water...meh. Maybe interesting to scientists, but not eough to rock the public world.
I figure they found processed metals. Stuff that cannot form naturally. Were they to dig down a little more, evidence of some structure will begin to appear. Perhaps that Face turns out to really be a face, covered over by millennium of sand and rock debris.
Microbial forms of life, no shaking of the earth there. "made" structure from processed materials that predates humans by a few millions years....earth shaking in deed.
Thank you. I typed it from phonic memory and being a child of the Gilligan era (Mary Ann for sure, Ginger was way to much maintenance) that is what came out. I thought to Google it, but got lazy.
Of course, I now curse you for that damn tune is stuck in my head all day.
Wait, I saw this already...Apollo 18. Is NASA finally fessing up to the conspiracy or are the moon rocks we brought back just now coming to life and we have to figure a way to kill them. Exciting times indeed,
Let's stop with the "I built it with my own two hands" BS. That only works if you are Robinson Caruso. If you start a business today, or even back in the 1700s you still have to work with a basic infrastructure that you did not build yourself.
Yes, let us take the roads, bridges, and basic services out of the equation. You boiled it down to a Us and Them moment where Us is the "I'm an entrepreneur" and the Them are those that just leach off the fruits of your labor.
There is also clear evidence that you can pick two people off the street and pretty easily identify the "entrepreneur" - someone that will be successful in building a new business and pretty easily identify the other sort that would prefer to live off your contributions
So fine, until you want to expand and hire another worker. Now that worker is not an entrepreneur, nor a leach, but one who contributes to the owner. The moment he/she hires then in reality, they did not build it themselves anymore,they hired someone else too to the work. Almost like the entrepreneur is leaching off the hard work of others. So now we have three players, the entrepreneur, the worker/laborer, and the leach. With a 93+% employment rate in the US, it would seem that those who leach, as a group, are pretty small. Those that entrepreneur are also pretty small, thus the largest group out there in business is the worker/laborer.
It takes some major cajones to stand up and say that the only contributors to a society are just the entrepreneurs, to say that they are the only group of value. Without that pretty large labor pool, they would build squat.
Mean while, the mummified corpse that is the Southeast continues its slow, unexciting evaporation into oblivion. Compared to the wham bam thank you ma'am of a storm like Sandy, us here in the south maintain a steady relationship with death by dehydration. Nothing to see here folks, just move along (sigh). I mean, compared to a pounding shore line backdropped by winded swept spume, how boring is reporting from a dried up hay field, or hard-packed pasture with nothing but an empty lake in the back ground... No, really, go watch Sandy, she's much more fun.
The company that brought us the iPhone is only now figuring out live streaming? Sheesh, that's embarrassing. Too bad they couldn't figure out how to stream it live to devices outside Apple's world; they're missing out on potential converts. It would have been fun to watch on my Galaxy IIIs. or Windows 7 desk top...oh well.
So I guess this action would also fall under the "your kidding" option or how does one drive a horse. Perhaps they should change the law to just OUI (easy to suss out).
criticism - A commentary on the complexity of Prince's music. It's so simple a child can dance to it. comment - Similar to criticism so while Prince's music is so simple even a baby can dance to it, it is musical enough to be enjoyed. News Reporting - OMG Mom, look at the baby dancing, this is the first time I've ever seen that before. Teaching - Hey kids, look how easy it is to dance to a Prince tune. just stand and wiggle...you try it...very good! Research - How long can a baby remain interested in dancing to a Prince song, is it continuous interest or short bursts, let's watch
Explain how there is a "lack of judgement" with a parent who sees their baby/child doing something cute while music is playing, records it, and posts it for friends/family to watch. Did they promote this as a music video? Did they attempt to sell the video for profit?
The "aw....come on" needs to be applied to Universal for a lack of common sense and judgement.
The author lost me at "driving to work". In fifteen years. with that type of technology, why would this guy, or most IT/professional workers need to drive into work. Very high speed networks (wireless), HD style displays, super computers in a box indicates the ability to work from home (or any where) and still stay connected to co-workers and/or management. Commuting is a waste of energy and time. Face to face need not be lost, just managed.
The rest I found not very realistic (for 15 years). Sure, Mr. Marketing guy can afford all those toys, but many more folk cannot and what will their lives look like...about the same as today. If we are still around in 100 years, then I could see that more connected world
(man I am getting cynical, when did I stop dreaming (sigh))
The tin-foil hats are multiplying, and the sane ones have left for greener pastures.
Would you happen to know where that is at? I can pack and be ready to go in a moment. For now, scary as it seems,/. seems to still be the cream rising amongst the crud.
Focusing NASA. A strong and successful NASA does not require more funding, it needs clearer priorities....
Strengthening Security. Space-based information capabilities are the central nervous system of the U.S. national security community. If America is to remain strong as a nation, the national security space programs must remain strong and sustainable. I am committed to a robust national security space program and I will direct the development of capabilities that defend and increase the resilience of space assets. I will also direct the development of capabilities that will deter adversaries seeking to damage or destroy the space capabilities of the U.S. and its allies.
So, Let us not increase funding on the quasi civilian space program who's public mission is to promote space and motivate scientific endeavor, just be clearer with priorities that are dictated by people with no priority in space. However, let us increase spending ("robust") on some sort of defense system to protect our space assets and those of our "allies", but we can't tell you what that is because it is "National Security"
What a load of crap. Mr. Romney seems to day, We wont spend money on exploration and good science; we'll dump buckets of money on defense contracts to protect assets unknown to the public. How will we py for it? Don't ask us, we wont tell.
The 50 Sq meter comment bugs me. Its not like we are plowing the back 40 with mules. By now can't we think more 3d? if 50 sq meters would feed one human, how many humans would 1000 cubic meters feed (10x10x10 room)? A greenhouse dedicated to growing could have walls, even the ceiling used for growing. My imagination can think of many other problems, but in a low gravity environment space should not be one. If fact, why not have a module orbiting the Moon that is specific to growing food and just use gravity for the delivery...ah, just hit me, fuel for deorbit and landing would make it prohibative (rats).
I like the idea of Nuc power. We drive submarines and aircraft carriers with this power and if they can keep it safe and working 600 feet over the ocean, I think sitting on the moon would not be much bigger a problem (other then delivery). Fuel disposal would be much simplier (huge incenerator only 93M miles away), and I recall there is the building blocks for making fuel right there.
If NASA is looking for the right stuff to farm on the moon, I'm all in.
Wait, I am a little confused and not only did I RTFA, but I did a Google search for more information.
Apple has a patent on searching local files for information? wtf? Did they get a patent for searching both the internet and the local files....I mean this must be a twisted reality when a grep or find type operation, which has been around for a looooooong time not only gets a patent, but stops another company from performing said function on its own machines.
Somehow we are getting to the point where companies like Apple seem to be able to patent a chair, just because its a chair that works in the field; no one else can build such a chair again.....This just makes me sad for the industry I once loved.
First we'd need to define what workable budget means.
Now from what I understand the President can present a budget proposal, but it is Congress that actually controls the purse strings so explain how a Democratic President passes a budget that is controlled by the opposition party congress. He can stomp, arm twist, bully pulpit all he wants, but it is Congress, not the president that pass a bill.
Now when we talk workable are we talking about a tax cut, austerity ridden bill that would pass Congress (and a republican Senate if there was one). From my memory I think we tried that back in the aughts...turned out that didn't work so good. Massive debt build up, recession, high unemployment.
Now with a Full house of Republicans I bet all sorts of things would get passed from sweet tax cuts to reductions of social security nets. I'm all for it. About the only way this country will get its head out of its own ass is to have it fail completely in the hands of fundamentalists. Sadly, the American society is so screwed up that we'll still have folks how great this country is while they work in substandard conditions, under paid, and living that short life again.
I see, so the 100$ Million raised by the Republicans and Mit Romney is for altruistic pursuits that bring a positive light to the campaign? You guys are good, very good at double speak. You even were able to twist around my comment and make it into an "Obama is evil" message. Yours is a scary world, but sadly one I may have to live in. Unless you happen to be part of the elite, I may see you on that bread line one day. Till then, enjoy....
The Hippocratic oath is an oath/EM., not a guideline to be bent for superstitious beliefs.
Yes, but in that case you are asking a doctor to do harm to what some feel is life. "Do no harm" is then applied with precedent (Do no harm to the mother first, then no harm to the baby). That is the both moral and ethical issue surrounding abortion so your point is weak.
Doctors certainly face this type of issue many times in their careers, not just with a pregnant mother, but with choices on who to save first. It is not a black and white oath when looked upon in that context.
If Dr. Paul turned away a mother for a routine abortion it could be viewed as his "superstitious beliefs" trumping his oath, or it could be viewed as his belief that he is doing harm to an unwitting life versus a mother who is otherwise in good health. Hmmmm, then he is following his oath. The SC legalized abortion, it did not compel doctors to perform them.
Now there you go, a guy lays out what was a fine set of points he observed and you go and pick it apart with little to no substance to back it up. Fine, you see it different, but then would you please put out there the accomplishments of the republican congress, positive laws that has helped this country? Please lay out the specific things you seem to feel Mit Romney will do that is different then GWB as a republican and where he differs from Obama.
I am all for debate, but your response was about as weak as "yeah, well your mother farts" and about as nonsensical. Put some facts out or please just go home.
Been in it a little longer, have seen and said the same thing. The more things change the more they get rehashed into the same thing with better marketing.
Thank you!!! I feel the same way. Program development in a browser was never fully fleshed out, but brought to us in pieces and we get to try and "make it work". I love that smartphone apps are really nothing but shrunk down desktop apps just more function specific. Web development is kuldgy and limited, because of the browser and while it allows "cross platform" execution, we code to the lowest denominator.
You redeemed yourself in the end, but the beginning was too much whine with the cheese. I speak from your similar position, an over 50, qualified software developer with valid concerns about future job opportunities. I live near the east coast, but in a smaller market that does not offer as many job options (though they exist). What binds me to this spot is not climate or access to hardware (you realize how lame that sounds in the age of UPS), but buying into the American dream of home ownership and unable to sell.
I completely agree with the sentiment that We should not have to move just to find work, but the reality is that the world has changed. Either we change a little to adapt or change to find a job/career that would allow that ability to stay put. I think we irks me the most is that in today's world of communication and connectivity, remote work has not taken off. Company management still subscribes to a mentality of factory time like that contributes directly to productivity. By the time tele-work is widely accepted you and I will most likely be retired or passed on (sigh).
After 30 years of software development I too have yet to see a job I could not do...that attitude and shiny tech toys will still not get your or I in the door of most employers today if we can't also say we worked simultaneously in Java,.net, HTML5, and can recite the whole w3 specification protocol.
Sadly critical thinking, reason, and adaptability are lower requirements then being a code monkey that spews code that "gets he job done".
[Congratulations] After billions of dollars we have produced an education system churning out children that cannot think for themselves.
It's working precisely as designed.
Churning out young Fundamental/Conservatives who are taught what to think, not how to think, and leaving them without critical thinking abilities is a feature, not a bug, as far as government is concerned.
If it's any consolation, they *did* learn something...how to sing "Mmm-mmm-mmm...Romney is My Guy with Sara by his side".
Recently Kudzu has been looked at by farmers, yes farmers as an alternative to standard hay feed for cows and goats. Turns out that cows and goats will eat kudzu with good affect. Farmers did not have farming tools up to the task of dealing with the tough root/vine system that makes Kudzu so resilient, that is changing.
Commercialzing this way or this way may be the way to go. Once mankind figures out a way to make a buck on something, rest assured that something will be used up. At this point farming needs a way to feed livestock with a plant that is heat and drought resistant, kudzu being a viable option. Mayhap one day it wont be amber waves of grain, but rolling hills of green.
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Life, water... these are common enough that it would not be earth shaking (though important). We are discovering planets orbiting around other stars thst have water, maybe with the possibility of life and yes, that is big. A planet of single celled organisms or simple structure creatures clustered around vent holes is not the same thing as discovering something not natural that precedes humans.
I respect, truly respect science that explores the building blocks of life and can find it fascinating to consider something growing outside our planet. My point about imagination (mainly for humor) is that when talking about earth shaking discoveries, life as a microbe is just not as amazing as life defined by made structures. Imagine we discover a Dyson sphere (or ring), imagine we discover some type of structure on Mars. Not only does it show life outside Earth exists (existed), but it was intelligent. That should blow our minds as a species and that I would find Earth Shaking..
Besides what will get mankind to Mars faster? Discovery that at some point water flowed on Mars and may be under the surface, some speck of licing dna, or a building/structure buried in the Mars sand.
y'all don't have any imagination. Life...meh. Water...meh. Maybe interesting to scientists, but not eough to rock the public world.
I figure they found processed metals. Stuff that cannot form naturally. Were they to dig down a little more, evidence of some structure will begin to appear. Perhaps that Face turns out to really be a face, covered over by millennium of sand and rock debris.
Microbial forms of life, no shaking of the earth there.
"made" structure from processed materials that predates humans by a few millions years....earth shaking in deed.
Thank you. I typed it from phonic memory and being a child of the Gilligan era (Mary Ann for sure, Ginger was way to much maintenance) that is what came out. I thought to Google it, but got lazy.
Of course, I now curse you for that damn tune is stuck in my head all day.
Wait, I saw this already...Apollo 18. Is NASA finally fessing up to the conspiracy or are the moon rocks we brought back just now coming to life and we have to figure a way to kill them. Exciting times indeed,
Let's stop with the "I built it with my own two hands" BS. That only works if you are Robinson Caruso. If you start a business today, or even back in the 1700s you still have to work with a basic infrastructure that you did not build yourself.
Yes, let us take the roads, bridges, and basic services out of the equation. You boiled it down to a Us and Them moment where Us is the "I'm an entrepreneur" and the Them are those that just leach off the fruits of your labor.
There is also clear evidence that you can pick two people off the street and pretty easily identify the "entrepreneur" - someone that will be successful in building a new business and pretty easily identify the other sort that would prefer to live off your contributions
So fine, until you want to expand and hire another worker. Now that worker is not an entrepreneur, nor a leach, but one who contributes to the owner. The moment he/she hires then in reality, they did not build it themselves anymore,they hired someone else too to the work. Almost like the entrepreneur is leaching off the hard work of others. So now we have three players, the entrepreneur, the worker/laborer, and the leach. With a 93+% employment rate in the US, it would seem that those who leach, as a group, are pretty small. Those that entrepreneur are also pretty small, thus the largest group out there in business is the worker/laborer.
It takes some major cajones to stand up and say that the only contributors to a society are just the entrepreneurs, to say that they are the only group of value. Without that pretty large labor pool, they would build squat.
Mean while, the mummified corpse that is the Southeast continues its slow, unexciting evaporation into oblivion. Compared to the wham bam thank you ma'am of a storm like Sandy, us here in the south maintain a steady relationship with death by dehydration. Nothing to see here folks, just move along (sigh). I mean, compared to a pounding shore line backdropped by winded swept spume, how boring is reporting from a dried up hay field, or hard-packed pasture with nothing but an empty lake in the back ground... No, really, go watch Sandy, she's much more fun.
The company that brought us the iPhone is only now figuring out live streaming? Sheesh, that's embarrassing. Too bad they couldn't figure out how to stream it live to devices outside Apple's world; they're missing out on potential converts. It would have been fun to watch on my Galaxy IIIs. or Windows 7 desk top...oh well.
So I guess this action would also fall under the "your kidding" option or how does one drive a horse. Perhaps they should change the law to just OUI (easy to suss out).
Really, I see it fitting all categories listed.
criticism - A commentary on the complexity of Prince's music. It's so simple a child can dance to it.
comment - Similar to criticism so while Prince's music is so simple even a baby can dance to it, it is musical enough to be enjoyed.
News Reporting - OMG Mom, look at the baby dancing, this is the first time I've ever seen that before.
Teaching - Hey kids, look how easy it is to dance to a Prince tune. just stand and wiggle...you try it...very good!
Research - How long can a baby remain interested in dancing to a Prince song, is it continuous interest or short bursts, let's watch
Explain how there is a "lack of judgement" with a parent who sees their baby/child doing something cute while music is playing, records it, and posts it for friends/family to watch. Did they promote this as a music video? Did they attempt to sell the video for profit?
The "aw....come on" needs to be applied to Universal for a lack of common sense and judgement.
The author lost me at "driving to work". In fifteen years. with that type of technology, why would this guy, or most IT/professional workers need to drive into work. Very high speed networks (wireless), HD style displays, super computers in a box indicates the ability to work from home (or any where) and still stay connected to co-workers and/or management. Commuting is a waste of energy and time. Face to face need not be lost, just managed.
The rest I found not very realistic (for 15 years). Sure, Mr. Marketing guy can afford all those toys, but many more folk cannot and what will their lives look like...about the same as today. If we are still around in 100 years, then I could see that more connected world
(man I am getting cynical, when did I stop dreaming (sigh))
Would you happen to know where that is at? I can pack and be ready to go in a moment. For now, scary as it seems, /. seems to still be the cream rising amongst the crud.
Focusing NASA. A strong and successful NASA does not require more funding, it needs clearer priorities....
Strengthening Security. Space-based information capabilities are the central nervous system of the U.S. national security community. If America is to remain strong as a nation, the national security space programs must remain strong and sustainable. I am committed to a robust national security space program and I will direct the development of capabilities that defend and increase the resilience of space assets. I will also direct the development of capabilities that will deter adversaries seeking to damage or destroy the space capabilities of the U.S. and its allies.
So, Let us not increase funding on the quasi civilian space program who's public mission is to promote space and motivate scientific endeavor, just be clearer with priorities that are dictated by people with no priority in space. However, let us increase spending ("robust") on some sort of defense system to protect our space assets and those of our "allies", but we can't tell you what that is because it is "National Security"
What a load of crap. Mr. Romney seems to day, We wont spend money on exploration and good science; we'll dump buckets of money on defense contracts to protect assets unknown to the public. How will we py for it? Don't ask us, we wont tell.
The 50 Sq meter comment bugs me. Its not like we are plowing the back 40 with mules. By now can't we think more 3d? if 50 sq meters would feed one human, how many humans would 1000 cubic meters feed (10x10x10 room)? A greenhouse dedicated to growing could have walls, even the ceiling used for growing. My imagination can think of many other problems, but in a low gravity environment space should not be one. If fact, why not have a module orbiting the Moon that is specific to growing food and just use gravity for the delivery...ah, just hit me, fuel for deorbit and landing would make it prohibative (rats).
I like the idea of Nuc power. We drive submarines and aircraft carriers with this power and if they can keep it safe and working 600 feet over the ocean, I think sitting on the moon would not be much bigger a problem (other then delivery). Fuel disposal would be much simplier (huge incenerator only 93M miles away), and I recall there is the building blocks for making fuel right there.
If NASA is looking for the right stuff to farm on the moon, I'm all in.
Wait, I am a little confused and not only did I RTFA, but I did a Google search for more information.
Apple has a patent on searching local files for information? wtf? Did they get a patent for searching both the internet and the local files....I mean this must be a twisted reality when a grep or find type operation, which has been around for a looooooong time not only gets a patent, but stops another company from performing said function on its own machines.
Somehow we are getting to the point where companies like Apple seem to be able to patent a chair, just because its a chair that works in the field; no one else can build such a chair again.....This just makes me sad for the industry I once loved.
First we'd need to define what workable budget means.
Now from what I understand the President can present a budget proposal, but it is Congress that actually controls the purse strings so explain how a Democratic President passes a budget that is controlled by the opposition party congress. He can stomp, arm twist, bully pulpit all he wants, but it is Congress, not the president that pass a bill.
Now when we talk workable are we talking about a tax cut, austerity ridden bill that would pass Congress (and a republican Senate if there was one). From my memory I think we tried that back in the aughts...turned out that didn't work so good. Massive debt build up, recession, high unemployment.
Now with a Full house of Republicans I bet all sorts of things would get passed from sweet tax cuts to reductions of social security nets. I'm all for it. About the only way this country will get its head out of its own ass is to have it fail completely in the hands of fundamentalists. Sadly, the American society is so screwed up that we'll still have folks how great this country is while they work in substandard conditions, under paid, and living that short life again.
I see, so the 100$ Million raised by the Republicans and Mit Romney is for altruistic pursuits that bring a positive light to the campaign? You guys are good, very good at double speak. You even were able to twist around my comment and make it into an "Obama is evil" message. Yours is a scary world, but sadly one I may have to live in. Unless you happen to be part of the elite, I may see you on that bread line one day. Till then, enjoy....
Nice to see that the Jim Taylor machine is still running and just as capable as ever to report "facts".
The Hippocratic oath is an oath/EM., not a guideline to be bent for superstitious beliefs.
Yes, but in that case you are asking a doctor to do harm to what some feel is life. "Do no harm" is then applied with precedent (Do no harm to the mother first, then no harm to the baby). That is the both moral and ethical issue surrounding abortion so your point is weak.
Doctors certainly face this type of issue many times in their careers, not just with a pregnant mother, but with choices on who to save first. It is not a black and white oath when looked upon in that context.
If Dr. Paul turned away a mother for a routine abortion it could be viewed as his "superstitious beliefs" trumping his oath, or it could be viewed as his belief that he is doing harm to an unwitting life versus a mother who is otherwise in good health. Hmmmm, then he is following his oath. The SC legalized abortion, it did not compel doctors to perform them.
Now there you go, a guy lays out what was a fine set of points he observed and you go and pick it apart with little to no substance to back it up. Fine, you see it different, but then would you please put out there the accomplishments of the republican congress, positive laws that has helped this country? Please lay out the specific things you seem to feel Mit Romney will do that is different then GWB as a republican and where he differs from Obama.
I am all for debate, but your response was about as weak as "yeah, well your mother farts" and about as nonsensical. Put some facts out or please just go home.
Been in it a little longer, have seen and said the same thing. The more things change the more they get rehashed into the same thing with better marketing.
Thank you!!! I feel the same way. Program development in a browser was never fully fleshed out, but brought to us in pieces and we get to try and "make it work". I love that smartphone apps are really nothing but shrunk down desktop apps just more function specific. Web development is kuldgy and limited, because of the browser and while it allows "cross platform" execution, we code to the lowest denominator.
You redeemed yourself in the end, but the beginning was too much whine with the cheese. I speak from your similar position, an over 50, qualified software developer with valid concerns about future job opportunities. I live near the east coast, but in a smaller market that does not offer as many job options (though they exist). What binds me to this spot is not climate or access to hardware (you realize how lame that sounds in the age of UPS), but buying into the American dream of home ownership and unable to sell.
I completely agree with the sentiment that We should not have to move just to find work, but the reality is that the world has changed. Either we change a little to adapt or change to find a job/career that would allow that ability to stay put. I think we irks me the most is that in today's world of communication and connectivity, remote work has not taken off. Company management still subscribes to a mentality of factory time like that contributes directly to productivity. By the time tele-work is widely accepted you and I will most likely be retired or passed on (sigh).
After 30 years of software development I too have yet to see a job I could not do...that attitude and shiny tech toys will still not get your or I in the door of most employers today if we can't also say we worked simultaneously in Java, .net, HTML5, and can recite the whole w3 specification protocol.
Sadly critical thinking, reason, and adaptability are lower requirements then being a code monkey that spews code that "gets he job done".
[Congratulations] After billions of dollars we have produced an education system churning out children that cannot think for themselves.
It's working precisely as designed.
Churning out young Fundamental/Conservatives who are taught what to think, not how to think, and leaving them without critical thinking abilities is a feature, not a bug, as far as government is concerned.
If it's any consolation, they *did* learn something...how to sing "Mmm-mmm-mmm...Romney is My Guy with Sara by his side".
Strat
ftfy
Recently Kudzu has been looked at by farmers, yes farmers as an alternative to standard hay feed for cows and goats. Turns out that cows and goats will eat kudzu with good affect. Farmers did not have farming tools up to the task of dealing with the tough root/vine system that makes Kudzu so resilient, that is changing.
Commercialzing this way or this way may be the way to go. Once mankind figures out a way to make a buck on something, rest assured that something will be used up. At this point farming needs a way to feed livestock with a plant that is heat and drought resistant, kudzu being a viable option. Mayhap one day it wont be amber waves of grain, but rolling hills of green.