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Hurricane Sandy Nears East Coast

An anonymous reader writes "Scientists have been following and projecting Sandy's path with all the tools at their disposal: ocean buoys, radar and satellite imagery, and computer modeling. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration also gathers information from special reconnaissance aircraft, which fly over hurricanes and can drop instruments into them to measure wind speeds, air pressure, temperature, and altitude. The latest data gathered on Hurricane Sandy point to an unprecedented and mighty tempest, scientists say." A couple of our East Coast offices are closed today and people have been told to work from home. Please share your storm stories, and updates while you still have internet access.

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  1. Amazon by GeneralTurgidson · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure it will somehow take AWS down :)

    1. Re:Amazon by evafan76 · · Score: 2

      I'm sure it will somehow take AWS down :)

      As a DC area resident who works in Reston (where Amazon's servers are), signs point to YES. Especially since DC area residents have already settled into "PANIC!" mode which includes posting on Facebook on how everybody is going to die and how the Mayans were right, buying every roll of toilet paper and every tube of pimple cream in the grocery store, filling their Viagra prescriptions so they can die happy, hiding in their basements, and emerging 2 days later asking "Why was everybody panicking?" This process also includes everybody jamming on to I-66 at the same time (more so than usual). This response is the same whether it is a hurricane, or just a dusting of snow. Doesn't this make your confident about the people who run your government?

    2. Re:Amazon by sjames · · Score: 1

      It's gotta be karma from the one-click patent.

  2. Wall St. Closed by necro81 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Interesting factoid I heard on my way into work: all the major banks and trading centers in New York City are closed today in anticipation. The last time that happened due to weather was for Hurricane Gloria back in 1985. Given the fact that Wall St. is just a few blocks from the water on three sides, and all of about 5 feet above sea level (depending on the tides), I'm surprised it isn't more frequent than that.

    1. Re:Wall St. Closed by Dupple · · Score: 5, Informative

      Wall Street might be closed but the Wall Street Journal is open however. Both they and the NYT have removed their pay walls for the duration of the storm

      http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/193261/new-york-times-to-suspend-paywall-for-hurricane-sandy/

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    2. Re:Wall St. Closed by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Funny

      In unrelated news, the crime rate in New York is down dramatically today, as the number of frauds committed dropped dramatically.

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    3. Re:Wall St. Closed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Post some pics of that tidal way from your office. If you can, catch the moment when it covers the Statue of Liberty. I want to compare the real thing to all those movies and see which is more realistic.

    4. Re:Wall St. Closed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Commuter trains, subways and buses are shut down. It's not that easy to get to work in Manhattan unless you live nearby. One of my offices is closed, another is advising to work from home unless you can safely get to work.

    5. Re:Wall St. Closed by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      North of Baltimore (roughly) hurricanes coming onshore are pretty rare... But if you're not prepared/built for it, even a Class I hurricane can handle you pretty roughly.

    6. Re:Wall St. Closed by cod3r_ · · Score: 2

      Sweet! Economy will start to function normally then. Hopefully power is out for a few days we might just get right out of this economic crisis.

    7. Re:Wall St. Closed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey. Maybe they work from home also ...

    8. Re:Wall St. Closed by Miamicanes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. Imagine the mess South Florida would have if a freak winter storm dumped 2 inches of real mid-afternoon snow on downtown Miami and the surrounding 3 counties, and it kept coming down all night so that we woke up the next morning to a city where every road was impassable to anything less than a SUV or truck, seriously dangerous regardless, and every vehicle that was outside overnight had ice crusted over the windshield wipers. We'd have people getting electrocuted trying to melt ice on the windshield with blow dryers (until the weight of the ice caused the power lines to fall down), and I shudder to imagine the carnage on I-95 and 836 when drivers who can't even avoid accidents during afternoon rainstorms suddenly had to deal with ICE.

      A category 1 hurricane making landfall in South Florida is like a "Snow Day" in Cleveland or Buffalo -- work from home today, limp and tipetoe around tomorrow, life as normal on day 3. An afternoon snowstorm that persists into the night would shut down South Florida for almost a week, and probably cause more deaths than a landfalling hurricane.

    9. Re:Wall St. Closed by ciderbrew · · Score: 1, Funny

      " "WORK" - "FROM" - "HOME" " Or as I call it "Toss yourself into a froth as soon as the missus leaves the house".

    10. Re:Wall St. Closed by EvilSS · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't have to imagine that. A little farther north than Miami, but I remember Christmas of, I believe it was 1989, we had an inch of ice followed by about two inches of snow in Jacksonville, FL. Entire city had to shut down and people were stranded for up to a week because all the bridges had to be closed. There was nothing the road department could do. They didn't have the equipment to deal with it. Of course as a kid, I thought it was awesome.

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    11. Re:Wall St. Closed by guttentag · · Score: 2

      But that doesn't make sense. Most of the trading volume is done by high speed trading computers which live on site and aren't affected by the transit shutdown. They could keep trading all day. They just wouldn't have any humans to take advantage of. Oh, wait... You mean they're useless beyond their capacity to cheat humans? Can't they just cheat each other today? Or would that not be as much fun?

    12. Re:Wall St. Closed by BetaDays · · Score: 1

      Thank you. I always check my stocks after slash dot so now I won't be wondering why they say "no change".

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    13. Re:Wall St. Closed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, this isn't a freak storm and we are still in hurricane season which runs until the end of November.

    14. Re:Wall St. Closed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone who lives in the south, I get annoyed when our northern neighbors give us shit about a "little" snow. In Georgia, we have tons of hills and streets that have >90 degree angles; and the lack of GDOT snow infrastructure. It doesn't ice here enough to justify a fleet of snow plows and the taxpayers would go nuts and yell corruption like we're buying a city-wide volcano insurance.

      Likewise, we deal with hurricanes all the time. Home Depots at every corner. Large overflow ponds in every neighborhoods. And I imagine a larger capacity per capita in our sewage system.

      Anyways, good luck with the hurricane up there.

      Cheers.

    15. Re:Wall St. Closed by Migraineman · · Score: 2

      wife: " ... and stay the hell out of my lingere drawer."

    16. Re:Wall St. Closed by evil_aaronm · · Score: 1

      It doesn't have to be south Florida: I moved to Seattle in '96, the year they got what they considered a "big" storm. Being from western NY, the snow didn't faze me at all. However, before that storm, it hadn't snowed in 40 years and they were woefully unprepared. It closed the city for almost a week.

    17. Re:Wall St. Closed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually the do "cheat" each other all day long each and every trading day.

    18. Re:Wall St. Closed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing I like better than frotting with a big, veiny, mushroomy, purple-headed cock.

    19. Re:Wall St. Closed by Seeteufel · · Score: 1

      Sandy is a real blow to WallSt, unlike the guys in their tents.

    20. Re:Wall St. Closed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The effect of even an inch of ice on surfaces is absolutely crazy. We get ice storms in the PNW every few years and the only thing you can do is hunker down and hope the power comes back on before you freeze to death. Snow isn't a problem. Millions of tons of ice clinging to everything is a significant problem.

    21. Re:Wall St. Closed by ejasons · · Score: 1

      The effect of even an inch of ice on surfaces is absolutely crazy. We get ice storms in the PNW every few years and the only thing you can do is hunker down and hope the power comes back on before you freeze to death. Snow isn't a problem. Millions of tons of ice clinging to everything is a significant problem.

      Especially with above-the-ground power lines, which is really silly with so many trees around in the PNW. Visitors from Europe are frequently astonished that a developed country would do it that way...

    22. Re:Wall St. Closed by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      " "WORK" - "FROM" - "HOME" " Or as I call it "Toss yourself into a froth as soon as the missus leaves the house".

      Presumably your work doesn't do any sort of monitoring? That would make for an interesting annual review.

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    23. Re:Wall St. Closed by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      We'd have people getting electrocuted trying to melt ice on the windshield with blow dryers

      YouTube link or it never happened.

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    24. Re:Wall St. Closed by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Especially with above-the-ground power lines, which is really silly with so many trees around in the PNW. Visitors from Europe are frequently astonished that a developed country would do it that way...

      But as a bonus you get some awesome lighting effects when the power lines come down and whip across the road like electric snakes from the portals of hell.

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  3. Uhhh.... This is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm in central Virginia. Every school and government office is closed today. Sustained winds are under 5mph and it's not raining. If the point of all of this was to get people to wet themselves over a category 1 storm, congratulations, mission accomplished.

    1. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It doesn't take long for the second guessers to arrive, does it?

      Sometimes they even show up too early.

    2. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You do realize the storm didn't get there yet, right?

    3. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by retroworks · · Score: 1

      It sounded even more ridiculous yesterday. So from those two data points, let's plan a picnic.

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    4. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by ClioCJS · · Score: 2
      True, but here in VA every hurricane has been way overstated. Andrew closed everything and it literally was not even wet afterward. Yea, in 2005, no water for a week, but I didn't run out of water from my normal stock anyway. You know what fucked us up? The derecho -- more than anything in my life. And there was no warning for that. Most people didn't have power for a week, though I only lost it for 5 minutes (no internet for 12 hrs was the ahrd part). So having lived here 38 yrs, I've learned that the panic is generally greater than the actual threat. ... so my bet is on the second-guessers.

      The hurricanes last year put a stick on my roof. Possibly did knock a knot loose in my roof. Finally patched up the rot that caused Friday in anticipation for today's storm... And that's the most preparation ever.

      Here's some random pictures of past hurricane 'damage' at my house inside the DC beltway, VA: http://www.flickr.com/photos/clintjcl/tags/hurricane

      Now.... Even if I'm usually right on this, that doesn't mean I'm always right... But I hope I am, cause y'know, I don't want a tree to fall on me. Our cars are currently in the school parking lot, away from the trees....

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    5. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what fucked us up? The derecho — more than anything in my life.

      Yup, Taco Bell is some bad shit; goes straight through ya.

    6. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by colfer · · Score: 1

      Extreme combo of crying wolf and actual superlatives. The reliably sober NOAA is cited by Reuters, "It could be the largest storm to hit the United States." Its official NWS prediction is for a "major to historic" NYC flood. On the other hand, NYC has stranded million of subway riders 24 hrs. ahead of the predicted surge. Here on the edge of the storm in Virginia, the university that used to pride itself on never cancelling classes has indeed cancelled because parents can't work because the grade schools are closed because...

      Rain. High near 51. Breezy, with a northwest wind 18 to 24 mph, with gusts as high as 36 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

    7. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by AliasBackslash · · Score: 1

      I'm in Richmond now, however I was in Newport News for Isabel a while back. Lost power for 15 days and a tree fell on my house after being struck by lightning. Andrew, Floyd, and Irene though, were heavily overstated.

    8. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by thomasw_lrd · · Score: 1

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/23/italian-scientists-charged-laquila-earthquake?newsfeed=true

      Doesn't anyone remember this story? There is a reason they overstate it. If they understate and lots of people die, then they are going to be bitched at. If they overstate it, and you get a gentle fall rain, everybody is going to bitch about, but at least a lynch mob won't be out for their heads.

    9. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by gman003 · · Score: 1

      I've been in VA for about two decades now (central VA - Chesterfield and Richmond). Pretty much every year or two, there's a hurricane that knocks out power for a few days.

      The worst was Hurricane Isabel. After that, I didn't have mains power for a month (thank god for generators). Schools were closed for weeks. Four different trees - big trees, three stories high - fell over just in my yard, and that got off pretty light compared to some of my neighbors. Last year, Irene knocked out power for five days.

      So yeah, right now Sandy doesn't seem to be doing much to Virginia (just some light rain), but the forecasts weren't really putting it towards Virginia anyways - it was expected to hit further north, up by New Jersey. But one can hardly say that Virginia never gets hit hard by hurricanes.

    10. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by colfer · · Score: 2

      The U.S. National Weather Service seems careful not to overstate. Then again, few people seem to even understand the difference between a Watch and a Warning. For this storm there is an oddball bureaucratic classification thing keeping the NWS's Hurricane Center from posting tropical warnings north of North Carolina. Kinda amusing... it's a PDF at the top of the Hurricane page... http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ They are handing off to local offices and two more obscure divisions mid-storm: http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/ and http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/

    11. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting

    12. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in central Virginia. Every school and government office is closed today. Sustained winds are under 5mph and it's not raining. If the point of all of this was to get people to wet themselves over a category 1 storm, congratulations, mission accomplished.

      And yet, if they predict a non-event and a hurricane hits, you are the kind of person that would call for the meteorologists to be executed. You should move to Italy.

    13. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Yea, in 2005, no water for a week, but I didn't run out of water from my normal stock anyway.

      Most people don't have a week's water supply in their homes.

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    14. Re:Uhhh.... This is it? by ClioCJS · · Score: 1

      Most people are stupid and dependent.

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  4. Ollie Williams reports by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Funny
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    1. Re:Ollie Williams reports by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      That's normal in a hurricane. If you want to know what's scarier, a hurricane or a tornado, the above link is a first-hand account of both.

    2. Re:Ollie Williams reports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you die in a hurricane you were a FUCKING MORON.
      They are big, slow, and let you know within a few degrees of where they are going and when. Get the fuck out of the way. Mother nature does not fuck around. Most cases you have upto a week warning knowing you should prepar for a hurricane

      If you die in a tornado... Well. Mother nature just had enough of you and sent the quick strike team.
      They can form in minutes, wipe you out, and vanish just as fast.

      Personally i'll take tornados. Much less stress and waiting. Either your number is up. Or not.

    3. Re:Ollie Williams reports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To add to that. When I was visiting family, I've driven through the horizontal rain and wind moments after they pronounced on the radio that the winds had reached sustained hurricane force.

      Just as the winds reached sustained gale force, my uncle had wanted me to drive my cousin to a halfway point to take her back home before I went back home. It was normally a 5 minute drive out in clear weather, but it took 7-8 minutes to reach there and one scary 20 minute drive back home. As we arrived at the halfway point, the announcement came over the radio. Whenever I crossed an intersection on the way back, I could feel the car just starting to lift on one side. It felt as if I was driving on 2 wheels. Visibility was down to less than 10 ft and I was going less than 5 mph at the intersection, since I could barely see over the hood of the car. The rest of my family was already home when I got there. In hindsight, I should have just told him to leave her with me and I could take her to my dad's house, which was closer. It would have been a shorter trip, and I wouldn't have a story to tell.

  5. Prepared by areusche · · Score: 5, Funny

    Room mates got a little nutty with the disaster preparedness. I took it a step further and bought a cooler, bag of ice, and a 24 pack of Corona. Bring it Sandy!

    1. Re:Prepared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      a 24 pack of Corona.

      Store already sold out of bottled water, huh?

    2. Re:Prepared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, all they have is canned water (aka Bud Light)

    3. Re:Prepared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no no no, you've got it all wrong you only drink water after you're out of beer.

    4. Re:Prepared by cffrost · · Score: 3, Insightful

      a 24 pack of Corona

      Granted, Corona is pretty reliable, but aren't cyanide capsules a more humane way of dispatching oneself?

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    5. Re:Prepared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, he needs to get a pack of beer to drink before he gets to that Corona-branded water.

    6. Re:Prepared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn right, boiled beer is atrocious so make sure you drank it first.

    7. Re:Prepared by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      a 24 pack of Corona.

      Store already sold out of bottled water, huh?

      But still stocked with canned water, apparently.

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    8. Re:Prepared by SternisheFan · · Score: 1

      I'm a former beer drinker, and I learned this tip. If that guys roomate wants to stretch his drunk out, he should drink a bottle of water between each bottle of the suds. This will help distribute the alcohol in his system.

    9. Re:Prepared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Off-topic maybe, but Corona is for tourists. We have 3 Mexican beers available in our area & it's XX, Sol, and Corona brings up the rear ( actual taste test with a group of seven).

    10. Re:Prepared by david.given · · Score: 1

      One day I must try putting a chlorine water purification tablet into a can of Bud Light.

      After all, it can't make it any worse, and there's a reasonable chance it might make it drinkable.

    11. Re:Prepared by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      One day I must try putting a chlorine water purification tablet into a can of Bud Light.

      After all, it can't make it any worse, and there's a reasonable chance it might make it drinkable.

      But wouldn't it kill off all the natural yeast and general natural goodness that make beer both a drink and a food in one?

      Posted from the UK, where, yes the real ale is served at room temperature (ish), but it does actually taste of something.

      PS good luck with the storm. At least you haven't had Michael Fish saying there's nothing to worry about.

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    12. Re:Prepared by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I'm a former beer drinker, and I learned this tip. If that guys roomate wants to stretch his drunk out, he should drink a bottle of water between each bottle of the suds. This will help distribute the alcohol in his system.

      That has the profound disadvantage of doubling the time it takes to get drunk, pass out and not have to worry about the weather outside.

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  6. Technology zilch compared to nature by jkrise · · Score: 3, Insightful

    all the tools at their disposal: ocean buoys, radar and satellite imagery, and computer modeling.

    At times like these, the only technology is that which helps in mass exodus, plain and simple values like sharing and caring; and them coming back to pick up the pieces all over again.

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    1. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or solid construction, water diversion, and water-proofing.

      But I suppose all that matters to you is that we're not dropping an atomic bomb to disrupt the Hurricane.

    2. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 0, Troll

      all the tools at their disposal: ocean buoys, radar and satellite imagery, and computer modeling.

      All the scientist in the world and all their tools will not help anything if you insist of reaping the planet. The technology is not exactly zilch compared to nature. On the contrary, all the technology made nature fight back. The world has a fever and WE are the microbes causing the disease.

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    3. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a bizarre worldview. Kind of pantheistic, I guess?

    4. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called an "analogy".

    5. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but also nature is nothing compared to human stupidity.

      I mean, seriously, why do so many people decide to live in major Earthquake zones, on flood planes and so forth?

      It seems humanity excels at populating some of the most stupid places to populate going.

    6. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or solid construction, water diversion, and water-proofing.

      Obviously, you don't live anywhere there's been a hurricane in your lifetime.

      The term "wall of water" is not an exaggeration. Depending on the variables above, you may see twenty feet of water moving steadily ashore. A slow-moving tsunami. Can you build to survive that? Sure, but doing so goes way beyond "solid construction." You basically have to build a bunker, and then mount that bunker 25 feet above sea level on top of concrete pilings sunk deep enough into the sand that they won't wash away. (At least, not for a few decades.)

      Real tropical cyclones (not this pissant Sandy) make our pitiful concrete human-huts look like anthills. Sensible people accept that and leave town and rebuild later.

    7. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but I've been through three Hurricanes in the past 10 years.

      And no, I wasn't dumb enough to live on the beach, or near the water. Though yes, we can build around that wall of water, if it's worth it.

      For me? Of course it wasn't, but it wouldn't be worth it to me to live anywhere near the water. I was much happier inland, and that reduced the costs considerably. Even the trees landing on the house didn't mean much, nor did I need to board up my windows. Because I built them properly.

      Besides, I know people who left town during storms. All they ended up getting was stuck in lines of traffic for hours and going nowhere.

      The only thing that upset me through the process was the loss of power. Which also could have been avoided if somebody had invested in underground utilities for my neighborhood.

      But no, no, we couldn't do that, it would cost too much.

    8. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by Daetrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Really? So where do you propose we should be moving everyone that is at zero risk from hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, tornadoes, floods, wildfires, and any other natural disasters i'm forgetting about right now?

      I don't know about the rest of the world, but in North America we'd pretty much have to move the entire population of Mexico, the US and southern Canada up into the Canadian Shield. Trying to move close to half a billion people into north-east Canada would be a logistics and economic nightmare, and i'm pretty sure the kinds of moves that would be required in other parts of the world would be equally drastic.

      Realistically, if we don't want to pack all of humanity into tiny fractions of the earth's surface, we have to accept that almost everywhere people live is going to be subject to the occasional natural disaster. Yes, we should avoid the _worst_ areas and/or have contingency plans for those spots, but we're not going to be able to avoid everything.

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    9. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by dmatos · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the fact that once the next spring rolled around, every single person you moved up there would be exsanguinated.

      http://www.nfb.ca/film/blackfly/

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    10. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Canadian Shield? Oh noes! Snowstorms!

    11. Re:Technology zilch compared to nature by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      So where do you propose we should be moving everyone that is at zero risk from hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, tornadoes, floods, wildfires, and any other natural disasters i'm forgetting about right now?

      Floods?

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  7. and the band played on. by rickb928 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since most of my family is up in that part of the nation, thru are getting the for measure of fright. but for the NY and Maryland regions, this is more about the water. Manhattan will be in a position similar to NO, except no river, just storm surge, and not as many pumps.

    And sustained wind.

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    1. Re:and the band played on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... thru are getting the for measure of fright. ...

      WTF did I just read???

    2. Re:and the band played on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:and the band played on. by Alien+Being · · Score: 3, Funny

      I wish I knew. Apparently it's quite insightful.

    4. Re:and the band played on. by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing it's an autocorrect of "they are getting the full measure of fright"

    5. Re:and the band played on. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Manhattan will be in a position similar to NO, except no river, just storm surge, and not as many pumps.

      Manhattan is in a far, far better position than New Orleans. Namely, a position at or above sea level (mostly.)

    6. Re:and the band played on. by bad-badtz-maru · · Score: 1

      Hopefully the levees surrounding Manhattan will hold...

    7. Re:and the band played on. by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Or the cisterns (scuse me, subways) don't fill up.

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    8. Re:and the band played on. by vlueboy · · Score: 1

      More exactly than autocorrect, that is an ANDROID user's "SWYPO."

      We just have to see any qwerty keyboard and slide an index finger over the letters in "t.h.r.u". Now look at how "E->R" and "Y->U" are key-transposed alternatives in the guessing tree for the letters of "thru".
      This happens with Swype all the time, and is annoyingly easy to overlook. Sometimes the only way to fix the AI is to wipe all the data it got on you, via the Settings \ Applications manager interface where you can uninstall the apps: there's a clear data option I use shortly after the app makes more misses than hits.

      I also hate it when it just types out nonsense letters that are no part of any word, when clearly it should just error or something. I'm a Froyo user, if that helps any. Our 4.0 Galaxy Tablet doesn't show the Swype app via the app market, but there's some option in the keyboard config to turn swyping on.

      Hmm, I wonder what kind of storm watch apps there are out there, even customized to one-shot track just one storm...

    9. Re:and the band played on. by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Autocorrect wouldn't have let "thru" through. My guess is either he's not a native English speaker, or he's on crack.

    10. Re:and the band played on. by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      It probably would have autocorrected *to* thru. Thru is often used in texting as a shortened version of through. Autocorrect on phones usually has texting (mis)spellings built in, and when they don't they can train to favor them with just a few texts.

    11. Re:and the band played on. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Autocorrect wouldn't have let "thru" through. My guess is either he's not a native English speaker, or he's on crack.

      Maybe he's scared and can't type properly because he are getting the for measure of fright.

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  8. In New York City by sticky.pirate · · Score: 5, Informative

    My office has "strongly advised" everyone to work from home, and the subway and buses have been shut down since 7pm Sunday evening. Right now (8:30am Monday) we've got some small wind gusts and scattered rain.

    1. Re:In New York City by AbrasiveCat · · Score: 2

      My office has "strongly advised" everyone to work from home,.

      So we can expect more posts to slashdot today?

    2. Re:In New York City by Frankie70 · · Score: 1

      My office has "strongly advised" everyone to work from home

      Unless you work at the weather bureau, why is your office advising everyone. They should be advising only their own employees.
       

  9. No work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I live in south Alabama, we get plenty of hurricanes. I have to drive across Mobile Bay in order to get to work. Unless there is over 100mph winds, I have to go to work. I work in an office, punching buttons on a computer. The company that I work for has a main office in the effected area of this storm, and although the storm is still waaaay the fuck out in the Atlantic ocean (yes, it's waaay the fuck out since it's only 85mph winds), we get word that the main office is closing Monday (we got word on this Friday). I have never understood the mindset behind who I work for. I think a better question would be, "What is considered dangerous-enough weather to close an office?" Because here recently I had to drive across 7 miles of open water in over 100mph gusts, and many roads were closed due to flooding during hurricane Isaac.

    1. Re:No work? by Lieutenant_Dan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hear you. The elements that you have to face is different than what senior management is willing to face. Two sets of rules. They don't mind putting you in harm's way while they spend the day at home watching Sportcenter.

      Can't ask your manager for remote access to your terminal and/or tools?

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    2. Re:No work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      So that whole 'south Alabama is nothing by morons' thing IS true then?

    3. Re:No work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The key is in your first 5 words.....

    4. Re:No work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is pretty simple. Storms near you bother upper management less than the loss of income from you not working. Storms near them may be a tad inconvenient, so they fly to California to play golf while you keep working.

    5. Re:No work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You blame your company for your own stupidity? You could move somewhere with a shorter and less dangerous commute. Or you could find another employer within the safe commuting zone of your residence.

      You are blaming outside forces for your own sub-optimal decisions.

    6. Re:No work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For this storm the danger is more from the storm surge, precipation, and consequent flooding.

    7. Re:No work? by cmburns69 · · Score: 2

      I live in Utah, where we regularly get snow. We almost never close schools because of the weather, and I can think of exactly one time in my adult life when work was called off early due to snow (and that event fizzled into nothing).

      In Texas, when they get even half an inch of snow, everything shuts down!

      The point being that we are much more well equipped to deal with that kind of weather event here in Utah than they are in Texas. I imagine some of the same is in play in your situation.

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    8. Re:No work? by sjames · · Score: 1

      If the indecision makers might be affected, it's a disaster, otherwise, carry on.

  10. Re:divine punishment by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, we're being rewarded by having very mild storms compared to many of the other planets in our solar system.

  11. Re:divine punishment by Coisiche · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, it could be spun for or against either candidate.

    That's the problem with self-styled religious oracles claiming omens, it's always down to their personal agenda and there's nothing divine about that. The simple truth is that shit happens and the universe is indifferent.

  12. See what happens? by gmuslera · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Started as a minor storm but the press have blown it out of all proportion. Now is a big one.

    1. Re:See what happens? by cffrost · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, all that hot air can evaporate a lot of water.

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    2. Re:See what happens? by slashmydots · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Amen to that! Any news agency with a presence in New York (all of them) turn it into the end of the world. The last time New York had a snow storm, CNN covered it like it was the black death. Meanwhile, Wisconsin got slightly more snow than they did and nobody gave a shit. Seriously, we were out shopping and driving and tailgating Packer games like it was normal weather, seeing as how it was. This is a class 1 hurricane. Time to un-bundle their undees and report on something useful and just pack a goddam umbrella.

    3. Re:See what happens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tailgating Packer games

      You play fudgepacker games?

    4. Re:See what happens? by deains · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's the same everywhere really. Not a single snowflake can fall on Greater London without half the British press running a story about it, meanwhile in the North of England and Scotland, it could be 10 feet of snow and the media wouldn't even blink an eye. It's all about perspective, and the world experience of a journalist stuck working in a dingy skyscraper all day is very limited.

    5. Re:See what happens? by bws111 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, it is 'only' a category one hurricane. That is going to cover ALL of Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Massachusettes, and parts of Virginia, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine with at least tropical storm force winds.

      Do you realize how many people live in that area? And, OK, it is 'only' a Category 1 storm, so the most likely effects (away from the coast) is power outages. Except that when the entire mid-Atantic and Northeast regions are covered, there is no help available from neighboring states.

      And, oh yeah, the storm surge at NYC is supposed to be 'only' 8 to 11 feet - which has happened never before. Since much of NYCs infrastructure is underground (including, of course, the subways), this is a big deal, regardless of the category of the storm or what similar storms have done elsewhere.

    6. Re:See what happens? by jittles · · Score: 2

      You don't use an umbrella in a hurricane. The wind will turn the damn thing inside out. Besides, umbrellas are relatively pointless anyway. I don't mind getting a little wet.

    7. Re:See what happens? by DarkOx · · Score: 2

      It really does not take all that much wind or snow load to cause lots power outages. What the utility companies usually do is loan each other extra crews before big weather events. Lots of that has been going on this time naturally.

      The challenge of this storm will be predicting where most of the damage will happen because of its size and actually having the crews near that epicenter of the damage (not always where the epicenter of the storm happens to go) because of its size. If the damage is spread over a large enough area again possible because of its physical size. There may not be enough crews to fix the grid in a timely fashion. Really intensity is not the concern with this one, area is.

      Don't forget all those highways and interstates through Appalachia either. If there is a major fast snow fall and cars and trucks actually get stranded on the roads it becomes a painful slow process to clear them. Many of these are through mountain cuts with little in the way of shoulders even on the inner states like parts of I64. You can't run a plow truck down the road until the autos are cleared out of the way. You can't clear the autos until much of the snow is out of the way. Its a catch-22.

      While I agree the cries of Armageddon from the media are a bit over blown this does have the potential to be disruptive in big way. I will be surprised if we see lots of photos of roofs stripped from buildings and flood ravaged cityscapes, but I won't be surprised at all if there are lots of stranded motorists, cut off towns, and long duration power outages. Its could enough now this time of year to make it not probably not deadly but certainly miserable without electricity most of those places.

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    8. Re:See what happens? by Guppy · · Score: 1

      Yes, it is 'only' a category one hurricane. That is going to cover ALL of Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Massachusettes, and parts of Virginia, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine with at least tropical storm force winds.

      Yup, it's a good example of quantity having a quality all it's own. Although the local damage will likely be mild compared to famous storms of the past, it will be applied over a huge area, resulting in a very large $ figure when it is finished.

    9. Re:See what happens? by us7892 · · Score: 1

      By this time in southern New England, it was supposed to be much worse. Still waiting. I'm finally hearing a little bit of back-tracking from the radio weather person. Likely will be much worse from NYC to PHL.

    10. Re:See what happens? by colfer · · Score: 1

      Agree there's too much crying wolf but the actual numbers are pretty bad. Here is an analysis of why the predicted 11 foot tide at the Battery in lower Manhattan is bad news for the subway: http://kottke.org/12/10/hurricane-sandy-comin The alarms have been indiscriminate though, so there is a lot of noise in the signal. The recent eagerness to close the subway is particularly irksome. The "officials" would never close a large road system because in 24 hours it would be covered in seawater. The people making these decisions see things from the tinted windows of limousines. The first time the subway was closed for weather was only in 2011: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway#Subway_flooding

    11. Re:See what happens? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      Yes, it is 'only' a category one hurricane. That is going to cover ALL of Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and parts of Virginia, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine with at least tropical storm force winds.

      So, in other words, it's not that different than the winter storms we regularly get out here in the Montana, Nebraska, North/South Dakota, Minnesota regions of the country where we'll have 2-4 days of gale force winds, blowing ice and/or snow, zero visibility, and 15' drifts at regular intervals? You know, the ones we'll sometimes have 2-3 times a winter.

      The only really significant thing about this, IMO, is the storm surge. That's pretty damn bad. It's basically a "New Orleans diagnosis" except there's nothing to be done for it.

      (That said, we have some fairly regular flooding out on the prairie, too. Like when the eastern half of the state of Nebraska was flooded just recently here, for most of a year.)

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    12. Re:See what happens? by kiwimate · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Thanks for injecting some common sense. Slashdotters usually like to sneer at the masses and call it "common sense", but in this case common sense means being prepared.

      The sheer extent of the storm will mean a massive impact. Emergency responders can only work as fast as they can work. The expected number of power outages will mean that linesmen just can't fix them all in a timely manner.

      Philadelphia International Airport has shut down. PHL is the 12th busiest airport in the world. That's a simply huge impact considering the number of people who would ordinarily pass through the area on a given weekday, and the financial losses. It's not a decision they'd make lightly (and an airport has their own very sophisticated weather monitoring and analysis stations).

      Margate, NJ, was already flooded this morning, and the storm has barely even started. It's both massive and slow moving, so it'll be hanging around for ages as it's dumping rain on us.

      Here's Red Hook, Brooklyn, and that's just the beginning.

      Here's more, courtesy of NY Times. They've opened their paywall. Scroll down and have a look at the pictures and remember it's barely started yet.

    13. Re:See what happens? by Whuffo · · Score: 0

      You can't imagine how ridiculous this hyperventilating over a miserable tropical storm appears. I live on a tropical island and we have an average of 28 of these storms come our way every year.

      Clear the loose items from your yard and put them indoors; lawn furniture, BBQ, garbage cans, etc. That's easier than chasing them down later. And be prepared for some flooding in low lying areas. If you live in one of those low lying areas, consider moving to higher ground.

      And if you can't deal with a tropical storm, don't live on the coast. They can be inconvenient, but they're also infrequent. Pop open a cold one and watch nature's show. When it's over, clean up the mess and go on with your life. This isn't a crisis, it's just another day on earth.

    14. Re:See what happens? by bws111 · · Score: 2

      And again, your comparisons are meaningless. First, if you are in an area that gets certain kind of weather 'regularly', the same weather is going to affect those areas differently than in areas that don't get that kind of weather. For instance, if you are in an area that regularly gets gale-force winds for days at a time, you are not going to have a lot of trees that lose their limbs or fall over in gale force winds.

      I seem to recall seeing a lot of news reports about drought in those states you mentioned, but not much about the drought in Death Valley. Why the difference?

      And again, the thing that makes weather newsworthy is it's impact on people. There are thousands of times more people going to be affected by this storm than by your storms where very few people live.

    15. Re:See what happens? by bws111 · · Score: 3, Informative

      And since you live on a tropical island with an average of 28 storms a year, you probably have very few large trees that will fall over (on power lines, houses, and roads) or have limbs that will fall off. How would your tropical island fare if suddenly two feet of snow fell on it? Happens all the time here.

      And here's a little geography lesson: the people expected to be impacted from this storm are not 'on the coast' - they are hundeds of miles inland.

    16. Re:See what happens? by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      The difference with this is that it's a hurricane and a noreaster combing. You're going to have flooding and power outages followed by freezing. That is never a good scenario.

    17. Re:See what happens? by DarkFencer · · Score: 1

      So, in other words, it's not that different than the winter storms we regularly get out here in the Montana, Nebraska, North/South Dakota, Minnesota regions of the country where we'll have 2-4 days of gale force winds, blowing ice and/or snow, zero visibility, and 15' drifts at regular intervals? You know, the ones we'll sometimes have 2-3 times a winter.

      New York City alone has almost as many people as the states you mentioned. Then add the rest of New York State, the entire eastern seaboard, parts of Canada, etc due to the massive size of this storm and you get probably 6 to 10 times the population of the states you mention. And you wonder why people make a big deal about it?

    18. Re:See what happens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The subways could use a good flushing.

    19. Re:See what happens? by Seeteufel · · Score: 1

      It is still no big deal because this is just a category one storm. It will do no real harm to the infrastructure. The United States should blame their ultility companies upon immaturity of their infrastructure.

    20. Re:See what happens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live on a tropical island and we have an average of 28 of these storms come our way every year.

      Does your island happen to be a boat... a hurricane research boat that chases tropical storms in multiple oceans?

    21. Re:See what happens? by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      wooow, I looked up the specs on a cat 1. It's pathetic and we just had a worse storm in every single way in Wisconsin a couple weeks ago. I drove to Taco Bell in it. We just do not give a shit here in Wisconsin, lol. I just looked at the official radar of Sandy right now. Oooooh, dark green! So scary! OMG is that a sliver of yellow? I think they can officially downgrade it from "hurricane" to "it's raining."

  13. Sandy is Wendy by halfkoreanamerican · · Score: 2

    Wilmington, NC asks: What storm?

    1. Re:Sandy is Wendy by Jeffrey_Walsh+VA · · Score: 1

      In northern VA where thousands of Fed workers, teachers and parents of public school students are home from work, we are seeing sustained rains, and wind gusts strong enough to blow many of the leaves off of deciduous trees.

    2. Re:Sandy is Wendy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Most of those thousands of Fed workers are teleworking today from home using laptops and VPN. This was well coordinated ahead of the storm. Do you really want all those Fed workers on the road, clogging the roadways and keeping Dominion power trucks from getting to downed lines? You might actually be impressed if you take you blinders off.

    3. Re:Sandy is Wendy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we are seeing sustained rains, and wind gusts strong enough to blow many of the leaves off of deciduous trees.

      Blowing leaves off in the fall doesn't take much.

  14. Don't PANIC! by arcite · · Score: 4, Funny

    God is just visiting New York to cast his early voting ballot.

    1. Re:Don't PANIC! by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2

      Don't forget to bring a towel. Proper towel safety and use is important.

    2. Re:Don't PANIC! by eternaldoctorwho · · Score: 3, Funny

      God dammit, Towelie, you're the worst character ever.

    3. Re:Don't PANIC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your face is the worst character ever.

    4. Re:Don't PANIC! by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't panic, it's HHGTG, not South Park.

    5. Re:Don't PANIC! by gameboyhippo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We all know this is a sneaky plot from the Romney camp to disenfranchise liberal voters by sending a massive 1000 mile storm in their path. Huff Post and Daily KOS told me so!

      In all seriousness, if a storm does do significant damage to an area right before/at an election, what do we do? Is this a constitutional crises?

    6. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      We all know this is a sneaky plot from the Romney camp to disenfranchise liberal voters by sending a massive 1000 mile storm in their path. Huff Post and Daily KOS told me so!

      I realize you're making a joke, but do you realize that at least one right-wing radio talking head is accusing President Obama of "seeding" Hurricane Sandy using (you knew it was coming, didn't you) HAARP?

      I'm not going to promote this turd, so you can find out who's making this accusation yourself if you are so inclined.

      So, if you're going to make a sarcastic comment about someone probably accusing someone of a plot to disenfranchise the electorate, you better make sure that someone on your side hasn't already done it.

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    7. Re:Don't PANIC! by Baloroth · · Score: 1

      And I'm sure I can find at least one person on the left who has made the same claim about Romney, which would actually make more sense (in crazy-logic-world) given that, you know, the east coast tends to have more liberal voters than conservative ones. Can we just agree to ignore the crazy people, instead of trying to claim the other side is crazier or made crazy claims first? Please?

      Ah no, I guess we can't, crazy people make for such great news and even better demagoguery.

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    8. Re:Don't PANIC! by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      In all seriousness, if a storm does do significant damage to an area right before/at an election, what do we do? Is this a constitutional crises?

      It is up to the state to prepare and make plans for such things...but it won't stop the election and keep the other states from turning in their votes.

      But seriously, I'm thinking "Sandy" is being way overblown (no pun intended), this is a WEAK cat. 1 storm.

      I live in New Orleans, and most people don't bother to leave for a storm this weak in intensity.

      Don't get me wrong..it can cause damage...but nothing catastrophic. Issac knocked out power down here in many areas for 1-2+ weeks. But that's an inconvenience, not a catastrophe.

      I hope everyone has taken precautions, gotten supplies ( and don't neglect to get plenty of rum and hurricane mix for the party)...but I guess I get a bit perplexed when everyone seems to go apeshit over a storm like this on the east coast....it is a PITA, but not like you'll be losing half the coast and millions of lives, etc.

      Anyway...good luck to those up there, I feel for ya, it is a PITA, but if you prepare, and evacuate from the areas right on the coast, it should not be much more than a very inconvenient storm. These things happen....

      Good Luck to all...

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    9. Re:Don't PANIC! by gameboyhippo · · Score: 2

      You assume I have a side which is a fair to do, but inaccurate. To make the joke less funny, since I have to explain it, the reason I chose Romney as the supposed cause of the storm and cries of disenfranchisement coming from the left is that it is more common to hear the left make arguments that the right somehow prevents the left from voting rather than the other way around. I'm not saying if they're correct or incorrect in their assessment, but they do make that complaint more. Combine that with the fact that states on the East Coast generally do vote left more than right and it all makes sense in a Huff Post kinda way.

      So if you're somehow offended that I made fun of your religion/political party/value system/whatever, then I apologize. I was just trying to be funny. (Something I don't exactly excel at).

    10. Re:Don't PANIC! by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thanks for your 'voice of reason' post. 'Sandy' has already been the cause of death for over 60 people, so far. This storm is no joke, and to hear how it's being "politicized" is a shame.

    11. Re:Don't PANIC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You live below sea level.
      YOU FAIL!

    12. Re:Don't PANIC! by Seeteufel · · Score: 1

      That is true but the metropole region is apparently not used to it. Plus construction in the United States is not very solid.

    13. Re:Don't PANIC! by jason777 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's probably Alex Jones. I heard him too, and he didnt say for sure, he said that it is possible. Apparently he had scientists involved with creating weather weapons on his show, and has interviewed many people, and yes there are mechanisms to control weather. With planes, and chemicals and such apparently hurricanes can be steered around. It's not that implausible once you look at what we have done already and the technology we have. Whether Sandy's a conspiracy or not is just thrown out there for consideration. This IS the worst storm in 100 years just in time to take away Romney's momentum. Don't mod me down-- I'm just clarifing here.

    14. Re:Don't PANIC! by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      You live below sea level.

      YOU FAIL!

      Well, Some parts of Manhattan Island aren't much better...some areas of lower Manhattan are only about 5ft above sea level.

      And, over 300 yrs ago...when people were settling in NOLA....they didn't exactly have GPS and all to see what levels are. And, even with that..it is quite important as a port city at the mouth of the MS river into the Gulf.

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    15. Re:Don't PANIC! by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      That is true but the metropole region is apparently not used to it. Plus construction in the United States is not very solid.

      Well, many of these cities are extremely old too....NYC, NOLA....built early on for the US (and before the US actually)...

      Up in NY, especially around Manhattan..they really DO need to start putting plans into effect, since they face a doomsday hurricane scenario much like New Orleans does. The right storm, would flood them out and have, from what I've read...flood waters up to at least the 2nd-4th floors on buildings there....wouldn't be a pretty site.

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    16. Re:Don't PANIC! by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      'Sandy' has already been the cause of death for over 60 people

      Not in the US...???

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    17. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Don't mod me down

      I love it when they beg.

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    18. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

      And I'm sure I can find at least one person on the left who has made the same claim about Romney

      OK, please do. Find someone on "the left" with a national profile who has said this.

      I'll wait here.

      See, this "both sides do it" equivalency is false. It's always been false.

      Can we just agree to ignore the crazy people, instead of trying to claim the other side is crazier or made crazy claims first? Please?

      No, we cannot ignore the crazy people, because voters on one side of the political spectrum are electing them to office in large numbers.

      It makes it harder to ignore someone when they are a member of the House of Representatives and sitting on a major committee.

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    19. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Thanks for your 'voice of reason' post. 'Sandy' has already been the cause of death for over 60 people, so far. This storm is no joke, and to hear how it's being "politicized" is a shame.

      I agree, but if we're going to talk about "shame" then it should be assigned to the people actually politicizing the storm.

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    20. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      To make the joke less funny, since I have to explain it, the reason I chose Romney as the supposed cause of the storm and cries of disenfranchisement coming from the left is that it is more common to hear the left make arguments that the right somehow prevents the left from voting rather than the other way around. I'm not saying if they're correct or incorrect in their assessment, but they do make that complaint more.

      I want to point out just how intellectually dishonest and morally questionable the very common argument that gameboyhippo is making actually is.

      When you have voters being disenfranchised, these people in the "center" who are saying "Oh look, the people being disenfranchised are complaining about being disenfranchised. They're such crybabies" become a double-insult to those people. These are not hypotheticals. There is no "question" about whether there are organized attempts at voter suppression by the Right. There are people, today, in this country who are being prevented from voting in a carefully planned and executed strategy. People who are being registered to vote by Nathan Sproul for the Republican Party who are then having the addresses on their registration form changed so that when they show up to vote they will be required to cast a provisional ballot (which will not be counted). Hundreds of voter registration forms showing up in dumpsters. People in states where the Supreme Court said there can be no voter ID requirement being told that they will go to jail if they try to vote without an ID. Official government notices going to potentially Democratic voters from Republican government officials telling them to vote on November 8 when the election is on November 6.

      And you're joking about how these people being disenfranchised are a bunch of whiners.

      I do assume that you have "a side". You are on the side of the kind of civic cynicism that is poisonous to a society. Whether you meant to or not, you endorse a kind of zombie conventional wisdom that is hurting people. Not hypothetical people, but actual human beings.

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    21. Re:Don't PANIC! by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 1

      Don't mod me down, bro!

    22. Re:Don't PANIC! by operagost · · Score: 1

      And one of my in-laws insisted last week that Romney said rape victims were "asking for it" and he pledged to kill anyone who voted for Romney. Conclusion? The world is full of easily manipulated idiots.

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    23. Re:Don't PANIC! by operagost · · Score: 1

      People are being disenfranchised in Florida right now too, you fool. Your statist sympathies make you blind to what's really going on. Grow up.

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    24. Re:Don't PANIC! by guises · · Score: 1

      And I'm sure I can find at least one person on the left who has made the same claim about Romney

      Yeah I saw a story like this already, claiming that Romney/Ryan are hushing up now and trying to hide how they want to cut funding for FEMA and disaster relief. I mean it's a little different, those liberals usually quote lots of "facts" and crap to make Romney look bad instead of just making stuff up directly, but it's the same idea.

    25. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      The world is full of easily manipulated idiots.

      You say that with the force of personal experience.

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    26. Re:Don't PANIC! by Seeteufel · · Score: 1

      When you have water in the basement of a skyscraper you probably have to tear it down for static reasons. The other issue is highrise construction sites. I guess we will see some damage there. And then think about electric appliances, switch boards, electronic equipment and so forth, salt water is a killer for electronics.

    27. Re:Don't PANIC! by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Don't get me wrong..it can cause damage...but nothing catastrophic. Issac knocked out power down here in many areas for 1-2+ weeks. But that's an inconvenience, not a catastrophe.

      This isn't just a cat 1 hurricane, it's a cat 1 hurricane colliding with a noreaster. In Louisiana lack of power is an inconvinience because it doesn't get that cold down there. But when you have no heat and it's below freezing outside, that certainly IS a catastrophe.

    28. Re:Don't PANIC! by Zagnar · · Score: 1

      These are some pretty wild accusations to make without proof. I'd love to see some sources.

    29. Re:Don't PANIC! by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      The problem or reason Sandy is being overblown is not because it is a hurricane, but because it is going to but up against the jet stream shortly after making land fall. We do not exactly know what will happen but for instance, a few years back, the remnants of a hurricane met with a cold front in Ohio and produced sustained 60-70 MPH winds with gusts up to 110 MPH for 4 orr 5 days. It cause power outages in Ohio, Kentucky, Pennsylvania. New york and West Virgina that took weeks to repair.

      We were lucky then because it was still summer and the outside temps were still in the 70's or above. It's a different situation now. Outside temps regularly fall to the low 40's this time of year in these places. This is especially going to be problematic because of the Arctic air being thrust down with the jet stream. Right now, I've got 30-50 MPH winds that are supposed to go over 65 MPH and it's only 39 degrees F out (4 pm). If I lose power there is a real chance of thousands of people suffering hypothermia or worse. I'm safe from it because I have a wood burner and plenty of wood.

      But the biggest threat or issue is the unknown. What is going to happen when the Jet Stream hits it. Is it going to dissipate or will it gain strength and stall for 2 weeks or more on land. We don't know because we haven't observed this in the past (I'm sure it has happened, just not when we were watching). We simply do not know what will happen but from lesser events, we know it gets worse. The storm will still be picking some moisture up from the Atlantic but the colder Arctic air will cause it to release so instead of 5-10 inches of rain an hour, will it become 15-20, or will the homes not built for 80+ MPH hurricane strength winds be able to withstand high winds for a sustained amount of time?

    30. Re:Don't PANIC! by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      This isn't just a cat 1 hurricane, it's a cat 1 hurricane colliding with a noreaster. In Louisiana lack of power is an inconvinience because it doesn't get that cold down there. But when you have no heat and it's below freezing outside, that certainly IS a catastrophe.

      Hmm...well, I'll have to look up what a noreaster is...not that familiar with the term.

      But I was under the impression that up there, most people had heaters with fuel oil, wood burning stoves, etc...something that didn't necessarily require electricity?

      I'd not heard much of the winter storm angle on my news...so, that would mitigate some of my thoughts on this. In national news...they're talking more about the typical hurricane/tropical storm damages...trees down, power outtage...shoreline flooding...etc.

      I'd not have thought of the winter angle..I mean, hell....last night was the first night I'd turned my heat on in about 8-9 months....my AC only clicked off a couple nights ago....

      :)

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    31. Re:Don't PANIC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With planes, and chemicals and such apparently hurricanes can be steered around.

      This was tried, and briefly thought to work, until it failed every subsequent time and scientist realized the first hurricane reacted that way out of chance, not due to human intervention. The amount of effort it would take to modify it would be orders of magnitude beyond what is reasonably possible at the moment (maybe possible if we dumped insane money and materials into it, but far more than it would take to just move people out of the way and rebuild...).

    32. Re:Don't PANIC! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it going to dissipate or will it gain strength and stall for 2 weeks or more on land. We don't know because we haven't observed this in the past (I'm sure it has happened, just not when we were watching). We simply do not know what will happen but from lesser events, we know it gets worse...The storm will still be picking some moisture up from the Atlantic but the colder Arctic air will cause it to release so instead of 5-10 inches of rain an hour, will it become 15-20

      What a load of unfounded hype. This isn't even that wet of a storm, with maybe 8-12 inches max of rain spread over several hours right at the worst parts near the coast and at most 4 inches for most inland places. It doesn't have that much moisture at this point compared to many hurricanes and won't magically be able to produce the amount of moisture needed to dump that much rain, especially for any significant amount of time.

    33. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      These are some pretty wild accusations to make without proof. I'd love to see some sources.

      There are enough sources here, both from original research and links to other research and stories, to convince anyone who has a reasonable willingness to evaluate the evidence on its merits.

      When you're talking about evidence of GOP election fraud, the sheer volume of examples represents something of an embarrassment of riches. The feeling one gets is not so much shock at finding out just how blatant this has been, but amazement and concern that the mainstream corporate press has so comprehensively ignored the stories.

      Just start with the entries for the past month or two, and by all means click through to the original sources. Let me know what you think.

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    34. Re:Don't PANIC! by Zagnar · · Score: 1

      This is indeed troubling, It shows that we need stronger control over our election system. Elections that are won or lost by a fraction of a percentage deserve a fraction of a fraction of a percentage error margin and clearly we don't have that. I would be hesitant to believe the outcome of any election until these sorts of messes stop happening. Excellent link.

    35. Re:Don't PANIC! by gameboyhippo · · Score: 1

      I apologize for hurting your feelings. I don't understand what it's like to have the passions of normal people. So I easily offend normal people such as yourself. In fact, I'm guessing that you're offended that I mentioned that you're offended. And you're probably offended that I mentioned that you're offended that I mentioned you're offended. Etc... Again I apologize. If it makes you feel better, neurotypical people like yourself beat me up throughout grade school. Something I deserve for not thinking like you or acting like you or dressing like you or liking your kind of "music".

      I don't understand other humans, so I don't understand how you are able to derive "I'm not saying if they're correct or incorrect in their assessment." into "joking about how these people being disenfranchised are a bunch of whiners." I guess there's nothing for me to do but repent of my unintentionally "evil" ways. Perhaps I should petition my government to put people in jail who do not vote like you do? Perhaps I should have them flogged like I was for being different? Everyone has the right to believe and think like you and if they don't; if they're objective; they're heretics. Perhaps you should write a book about your struggles? That would be an interesting read.

    36. Re:Don't PANIC! by riverat1 · · Score: 1

      I doubt that water in the basements of a skyscraper would require it to be torn down. They are basically huge frameworks of concrete and steel anchored to bedrock or to pilings driven well below any possible flood damage. A bit of water isn't going to cause much damage to that. You certainly will have major damage to the human amenities in the basements but the basic framework that supports the building will be fine.

    37. Re:Don't PANIC! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      neurotypical people like yourself

      Self-diagnosed Aspie alert! Self-diagnosed Aspie alert! Self-diagnosed Aspie alert!

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    38. Re:Don't PANIC! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's probably Alex Jones. I heard him too, and he didnt say for sure, he said that it is possible. Apparently he had scientists involved with creating weather weapons on his show, and has interviewed many people, and yes there are mechanisms to control weather. With planes, and chemicals and such apparently hurricanes can be steered around. It's not that implausible once you look at what we have done already and the technology we have. Whether Sandy's a conspiracy or not is just thrown out there for consideration. This IS the worst storm in 100 years just in time to take away Romney's momentum. Don't mod me down-- I'm just clarifing here.

      You know the saying about how when you're in a hole you should stop digging? Well you just burrowed your way into the Centre of the Earth where the Nazis and Lizard overlords play.

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    39. Re:Don't PANIC! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      .it is a PITA, but not like you'll be losing half the coast and millions of lives, etc.

      The 2004 Boxing Day tsunami "only" cost about a quarter of a million lives, that doesn't mean it was just a minor inconvenience.

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    40. Re:Don't PANIC! by gameboyhippo · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? Or should I even ask.

    41. Re:Don't PANIC! by gameboyhippo · · Score: 1

      Ah... nevermind. I googled around. No. I'm just different. I'm not some chess prodigy or anything like that. I used the word neurotypical because I wanted to convey the idea that the overly passionate poster was normal and that normal was not a good thing. My theory is that most people are passionate about their likes and dislikes. So when guys like me see things objectively people get offended. And I don't understand why, but that's okay. I don't understand a lot of things. Perhaps it's just because I kept to myself growing up and refused interactions. People can't believe why I don't just jump on the hate bandwagon and hate "Obummer" or "RMoney" as you kids like to call them. I think that both candidates want what's best for America and have different ideas on how to get there. I'm sorry if my humor offends you.

    42. Re:Don't PANIC! by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Also, as someone else already pointed out, hurricanes are rare there. Imagine what it would be like if you got two feet of snow in La. Up here in Illinois that's not rare at all and we get through it without too much trouble, but if you got that down there it would be pretty damned bad.

      It turned out to be worse than they thought it would be, NYC is flooded, whole neighborhoods are on fire, a million people are without power. Most people where it gets cold before winter and stays cold until spring don't use kerosine heaters, but have gas or electric heat. Gas furnaces won't work without power; there's nothing to run the thermostat or blower and no way to light the gas.

    43. Re:Don't PANIC! by Seeteufel · · Score: 1

      At least for the electric supply, phone lines and electronics you get real damage.

    44. Re:Don't PANIC! by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      Well, they haven't been common there in the past few decades...

      But was watching one forecaster...he said that it is in a cycle...that back in the 50's...there were several hurricanes that made landfall up in that area...and that this is likely the start of a new cycle..so, they'd better get used to it and prepare.

      I've been watching, and I do feel for people that lost things...but from what I can see...mostly damage along the shores which you should expect, and like they said to us in New Orleans...if you build things in low lying areas (like tunnels underground near the water)...expect to get flooded.

      Honestly...aside from damage on coastal areas that you expect, it doesn't look like that bad of a storm.

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    45. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      No. I'm just different.

      And we love you for it.

      Vive la difference!

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    46. Re:Don't PANIC! by jason777 · · Score: 1

      Dont shoot the messenger

    47. Re:Don't PANIC! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Dont shoot the messenger

      Why not?

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    48. Re:Don't PANIC! by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      The wind speed wasn't bad, barely a hurricane at all. But the sheer size of the thing was what made it a "super storm" along with where it landed, where hurricanes only hit every several decades and nobody is use to them.

  15. Re:divine punishment by JustOK · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's the weather like on Kolob?

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  16. If you're working from home... by arcite · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then why are you posting on slashdot? Back to the grindstone with you!

    1. Re:If you're working from home... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always thought the "grindstone" analogy to be a bit weird. Doing nothing for eight hours except grinding a blade against a grindstone sounds like a pleasantly mindless task, compared to the usual.

    2. Re:If you're working from home... by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      I always took it to mean "Grindstone, a type of millstone used to grind grains such as wheat".

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    3. Re:If you're working from home... by CaptainOfSpray · · Score: 1

      The actual phrase is "nose to the grindstone". Less pleasant than you thought.

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  17. cause and effect by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It isn't so much a religious omen as a lesson in scientific cause and effect. Neither of the top two presidential candidates has been talking much lately about what's causing this sort of thing, but one of them (Romney) is promising not to do anything about it. If you can make it to the polls, keep that in mind.

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    1. Re:cause and effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Weather changes over time, and if you look at more than trumped up data from the past 50 years modeled to support an agenda, you'd see that it's happened before and has been happening for a long time. Long before the industrial revolution, long before coal burning generators, long before nuclear power, long before gas guzzling automobiles, and I could go on and on. The fact is that the air is much cleaner today than it was when the masses of civilization were burning open fires every night for light and warmth, and burning cities to the ground everytime they had a disagreement. Furthermore, I've seen no study that honestly correlates pollution with severe weather. The studies I have seen have once again targeted specific data, ignoring what doesn't support the theory, and making connections which have no scientific basis. What you've got with global warming is not cause and effect, because it ignores pertent data and relies on data that has been fabricated. So that being the case I'd prefer that the president focus on real issues like fixing the economy, cutting government spending (especially on non-issues like global warming), and protecting our nation (that is what the government's original job was after all).

    2. Re:cause and effect by bhcompy · · Score: 1

      Which is why I like living on the West Coast. There's no global warming equivalent for earthquakes. No herp in this derp. Thank Jesus.

    3. Re:cause and effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I were in your shoes I'll hold the praises a little. A couple of degrees more in the magma in the mantle may result in more volcano and some action in that pesky crust floating in top of it.

    4. Re:cause and effect by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      Even climate scientists will tell you that there is no way to prove this is a result of AGW - nor is it even agreed upon as a potential result of AGW (increased warming increases wind shear which may actually *decrease* the number of hurricanes - but those which do happen may be stronger - it's unsettled).

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    5. Re:cause and effect by dkf · · Score: 2

      There's no global warming equivalent for earthquakes.

      Except there is. Rising sea levels and changes in precipitation patterns can both alter the loading on faults, and even small changes that way can have big effects through triggering earthquakes and volcanoes (dependent on the local geology, of course). On the other hand, it's very hard to say for sure what the effects will be; you can't predict the size of earthquakes this way, nor the violence of volcanic eruptions. All we can really say is that altering the loading due to water, whether seawater or in an aquifer or in lakes and rivers, can cause the earth to flex somewhat (that's basic physics) and that can in turn trigger more violent earth movement events. (I believe that there has been research that has shown that earthquakes are more likely to happen in spring, typically associated with when most snow melts off mountains, but I could have mis-remembered that.)

      It's all rather non-linear and complicated, so nobody's making any real predictions. After all, it might just cause more very small earthquakes and minor eruptions. We just don't have nearly enough data to be able to guess what the overall effect will be.

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    6. Re:cause and effect by Experiment+626 · · Score: 0

      Given Obama's propensity for exacerbating every problem he tries to deal with (unemployment, health care premiums, middle class tax rates, gas prices, etc.), promising not to do anything is better than yet another spectacular backfire.

    7. Re:cause and effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Turn off Fox News and join the real world. Unemployment is decreasing. Health insurance premiums are going to go down (or stop going up so much) when the "mandate" gives insurance companies more customers. Middle class tax rates are lower. Gas prices are simply back to what they were before Bush tanked the economy. Pull your head out of your racist ass and look at what's really happening.

    8. Re:cause and effect by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Actually, health insurance has went up according to several sources. As for jobs, we are gaining them now. It's just not on par with normal population growth yet. And Bush didn't tank the economy- there was several factors even policies initiated by democrats that caused the economy to tank.

      But hey, I like the way you even managed to call him a racist for simply not liking Obama's policies. This is even more exciting since you labeled him as an ill informed idiot as your premise for his beliefs, then turn around and blame it on prejudices. You seemed to cover just about everything as ignorantly or even more so then you think he did. You said, "look at what's really happening" But I'm not sure you will like it if you did the same.

  18. Could be worse, HMS Bounty by OffTheLip · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Abandoning ship into 25 foot lifeboats to battle monster seas is bad for the crew and hard work for the Coast Guard tasked with their safety. The graveyard of the Atlantic is set to claim another prize. http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2012/10/29/coast-guard-monitoring-tall-ship-in-distress-off-north-carolina-with-17-aboard/

    1. Re:Could be worse, HMS Bounty by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      Given that we've had days notice of this storm - what damm fool ordered her out into it?

    2. Re:Could be worse, HMS Bounty by colfer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Docked in port is often more dangerous, to the ship at least. This storm came in on a wide hook so it would have been hard to pick a time to leave, assuming they were ready to go when the first warnings came.

    3. Re:Could be worse, HMS Bounty by bunbuntheminilop · · Score: 1

      Not to mention how pissed HRH will be she he finds out.

    4. Re:Could be worse, HMS Bounty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sandy has foiled their plot to attack an island, seize teenaged girls, escape to another island, and then have their descendants arrested for rape two centuries later

  19. no its mitt romney health care plan that sick kids by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1, Insightful

    no its mitt romney health care plan that under sick kids can get blacked listed for life and for his link to Richard Mourdock views on RAPE.

  20. Sandy, the Fireworks are hailing over little Eden by Bucc5062 · · Score: 1

    Mean while, the mummified corpse that is the Southeast continues its slow, unexciting evaporation into oblivion. Compared to the wham bam thank you ma'am of a storm like Sandy, us here in the south maintain a steady relationship with death by dehydration. Nothing to see here folks, just move along (sigh). I mean, compared to a pounding shore line backdropped by winded swept spume, how boring is reporting from a dried up hay field, or hard-packed pasture with nothing but an empty lake in the back ground... No, really, go watch Sandy, she's much more fun.

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  21. DR Plan by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

    Sell working from home as part of a disaster preparedness plan. Ensure employees *can* work from home in case the head office loses power or floods. Ensure there's a secondary datacenter for core services too of course.

  22. Snowfall by CaroKann · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One interesting aspect about this storm is the snowfall. Snowfall is expected in WV and KY. Moisture from the storm is wrapping around into cold air in the higher elevations. A hurricane producing snow, how unusual! http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT3+shtml/291149.shtml?

    1. Re:Snowfall by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      Not all that unusual. We have a circular supercell during the winter out here in the upper Midwest with considerable regularity. "Hurricane force winds" is commonly stated, and not always associated with a circular supercell. It's just common.

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    2. Re:Snowfall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it's very unusual. "Hurricane force winds" is not a hurricane. There's more to a hurricane than winds.

  23. Storm Story by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 1

    My storm story is well documented in Henny Penny, with the public as the role of Chicken Little. The one without a happy ending.

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  24. Re:divine punishment by jovius · · Score: 1

    Democracy at its finest. Everybody gets pummeled.

  25. I can see the beach from this spot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=256935417762004&set=a.243402332448646.53482.100003366424039&type=1&theater

  26. I can see the beach from this spot BRING IT ON !!! by 4444444 · · Score: 1
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  27. Re:no its mitt romney health care plan that sick k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kill the baby because dad is a rapist? That's a sick POV.

  28. Super hyped???? by PortHaven · · Score: 4, Informative

    In 1992, when I was in Connecticut, they hyped a nor'easter. It was to be the worst thing since Hurricane Gloria. It came, it fizzled, it was a little more windy than normal. But seriously, didn't even make me blink. It was hyped the same way Sandy is being hyped.

    Two weeks later another nor'easter approached. The embarrassed media downplayed it. This second storm turned out to be everything the first one wasn't. My school was evacuated. Boats were floating down the road. The pier was 18" under water.

    ***

    My fear is this will fizzle. And then, in a month or so we'll have another storm, and that will be the one that devestates.

    1. Re:Super hyped???? by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

      I've been wondering about that too. In exactly what way is Sandy the storm of the century? It's barely a category 1 storm. Yes, it's big, but not unprecedentedly so. Storm surges are significant, but far less than storm surges from other recent storms. Is it just where the storm is headed that makes this one so "huge," or am I missing something? Maybe in a couple of days we'll all know.

    2. Re:Super hyped???? by DeadCatX2 · · Score: 1

      From what I gather, it's not just the hurricane that's the problem. It's the fact that the hurricane is slamming into a nor'easter, and the pressures in the area mean the storm is moving more slowly than normal.

      It reminds me of the earthquake that happened recently. The eastern US isn't used to earthquakes, and sure there was hardly any damage, but then again none of our buildings and bridges are actually spec'd for any significant earthquake.

      What bothers me the most about the hurricane is the high winds. There are a lot of trees with limbs that are growing around power lines in my area, and high winds are almost certainly going to knock out the power for lots of people...

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    3. Re:Super hyped???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can safely assure you, here in PA this is not "over-hyped." The trees in my backyard are bent sideways in the wind, as is the rain...

    4. Re:Super hyped???? by riverat1 · · Score: 1

      From what I heard tonight the storm surge at The Battery in NYC was 14 feet, 3 feet higher than the previous record.

    5. Re:Super hyped???? by PortHaven · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm in PA, and this was no where near as bad as Irene+Lee last year. That had horrible flooding.

      That said, it does seem that it landed perfectly into NJ/NYC to be quite devastating. My mom is right on the water in Connecticut and it was about 4-6ft up her house. Thankfully the first floor is currently just basement space.

  29. "Isn't weather great?!!" by SternisheFan · · Score: 2
    Around Sept.1992, during Hurricane David (I believe), I was helping out my friends. "Warren" had been diagnosed with terminal stomach cancer, and with the aid of his wife and of Hospice, was home to die. In their bedroom was a tv that was tuned to The Weather Channel, playing constantly, 24/7.

    While I was sitting next to a weakened Warren laying in his hospital bed, idly staring at the tv, he turns his gaze to me and with a smile asks, "Isnt weather great?" I agreed, "Yeah, Mother Nature's really cool", or something like that. Warren passed on not too long after that display of nature. That's just one of the many learning moments I received from that time, that good or bad, weather is great!

  30. harumpph! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read all these dim comments to lighten my day with something witty about slashdot closing some of it's offices, as if it was a real news organization, but not a mention... where are all the trollls?

  31. Google's Crisis Map by TheGreatDuwanee · · Score: 2

    Google has launched a crisis map showing rainfall, active emergency shelters and quite a bit of other info. http://google.org/crisismap/sandy-2012

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  32. Re:divine punishment by Metabolife · · Score: 1

    Neptune sounds a lot worse. "These weather patterns are driven by the strongest sustained winds of any planet in the Solar System, with recorded wind speeds as high as 2,100 kilometres per hour (1,300 mph)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neptune

  33. time off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    time for a mental health day

  34. Re:no its mitt romney health care plan that sick k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If abortion is murder, than all women who miscarriage should be tried for involuntary manslaughter.

    Riductio ad absurdum

  35. KSR FTW by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 1

    I'm listening to an audiobook version of Kim Stanley Robinson's AGW novel 40 Signs of Rain, published in 2004; towards the end Washington DC is flooded by Tropical Storm Sandy. Who says SF writers can't predict the future?

    1. Re:KSR FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.cracked.com/article_18421_6-insane-coincidences-you-wont-believe-actually-happened.html

      the first two items listed are just such literary predictions.

  36. Re:no its mitt romney health care plan that sick k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FTFY
    s/the baby/a few cells/

  37. Been there myself... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fairhope was where I stayed back circa 2004 iirc, & I had to cross the bridge(s) into Mobile proper itself (the inner city) to get to the job I was doing there (coding a contact mgt. system for a client)... was beautiful imo. I even saw a "jubilee" (and only YOU might know what THAT is).

    * Nice spot there - seriously nice...

    (Well, other than the hurricanes & what-not - not far from Florida either really!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Up in N.Y. State again though for years now - & am "ready" for this hurricane (I doubt it'd compare to what WE get here, that imo, is a LOT WORSE, in ice-storms (ever try drive a car over an ice-skating rink?)... but, am "prepped" to-the-max to wait it out here...

    ... apk

  38. Oblig (can't believe this isn't here yet!) XKCD by IwantToKeepAnon · · Score: 2
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  39. Sensationalism Sucks by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    The news is treating this like the Wrath of God is coming to destroy the East Coast. You can't flip to ANY news station in the US that doesn't have some junior reporter standing on the beach in the wind talking about how civilization as we know it is about to end. :|

    IT'S A CATEGORY 1 STORM FFS.

    It just barely meets the requirements of even getting a mention at all. Yet, the news is going nuts with it.
    To those of us who deal with these damn things yearly, a Cat-1 storm is nothing more than heavy rainfall for a day or two.

    Put it on the news when a strong Cat-2 or Cat-3 comes rolling in. THEN it will actually be newsworthy.
    ( When your junior reporter gets blown off their feet and the wind overturns the news van that's your que to start filming )

    Admittedly though, it is a nice break from all the politics BS. :D

    1. Re:Sensationalism Sucks by SternisheFan · · Score: 2

      When it comes to 'pressure zones', Sandy is considered to be a category Three hurricane.

    2. Re:Sensationalism Sucks by RobL3 · · Score: 1

      Do you live near the ocean? If so I'm surprised by this comment - it's not the wind or the rain that make this storm so dangerous (although the duration due to the size will be unusual) It's the storm surge and flooding. At high tide you're looking at 6-11 feet in some parts of NYC. If it hit the high side of that the subways and underground conduits will fill with seawater. I probably don't have to explain why thats a really, really bad thing.

    3. Re:Sensationalism Sucks by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

      Chuckle. I still consider it sensationalism :D
      Some news sites are basically saying " If you don't evacuate, you'll DIE !!!! "

      The reality is . . . well no not really. You'll be damned uncomfortable since you'll likely have
      no power for a few weeks. No gas either since pumps rely on electrical power to run.

      Yes, btw, I DO live near the ocean so I'm very, very familiar with what a hurricane is capable of.
      Work about a mile from the beach. ( Galveston, TX )

      The last hurricane we dealt with was IKE. Strong Cat-2 with a storm surge in the 10-14' range.
      You should have seen what this island looked like post storm. :| Water levels reached 15-20
      feet in some places.

      It wreaked havoc, but the world didn't end. Thousands and thousands didn't die. The island
      is still rebuilding in places but that's the way of things. The price you pay for living near the ocean
      I'm afraid.

      The news loves to hype up and scare everyone to death because it makes for great news.

      In the end, the storms are rarely as horrific as the media likes to portray them.

  40. Micro$oft is responsible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This hurricane is just a ploy to keep people indoors so they can purchase and use the new Surface tablets.

    1. Re:Micro$oft is responsible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I fpr one welcome our new Category 1 Hurricane Overloads, and imagine a beowulf cluster of Microsoft Tablets !!! WWOOOWWWW

  41. Sandy Snow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People are all hung up on the storm surge and flooding. Parts of WV are expecting up to 3 ft of snow in OCTOBER!!

  42. One paywall drops by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1
    From the NY Times website:

    To Our Readers
    The Times is providing free unlimited access to storm coverage on nytimes.com and its mobile apps.

  43. In N.Y., tidal surge is the concern. by SternisheFan · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Where I am in Long Island, N.Y. we're predicted to get only 3" of rain from Sandy. The real issue here is the storm's 'tidal surge' to occur Monday evening throughout Tuesday. 75mph gusts, coupled with the full moon's high tide effect will be pushing ocean waves north over the entire southern edge of L.I., with an 11.5 foot surge expected around 9pm Monday night Evacuations in N.Y.C. and everyone south of Sunrise Highway (27) in L.I.'s Nassau County.

    For a storm like this, there's nowhere for this water to go but to get pushed into the 'bowl' of Jamaica Bay and into N.Y.C., and to flood the southern parts of L.I. Also, since L.I. is basically one long 'beach' of sand with 6-10 inches of dirt on it, tree's roots grow spreading outward, not downward to anchor properly into the ground. With water-logged soil, the expected high winds are going to topple trees with ease, and L.I.'s power company is expecting outages to last for up to a week until all repairs are made. It's going to be one heck of a ride!

  44. Really? by mosb1000 · · Score: 2

    An unprecedented and mighty tempest? This is a category 1 hurricane. Since the scale goes up to 5, I think it's safe to say this isn't unprecedented, unless you expect me to believe a hurricane has never hit the eastern seaboard. And don't give me that superstorm nonsense, we've had big snowstorms on the eastern seaboard before. There's nothing unprecedented about it, big storms hit the eastern seaboard every once in a while.

    1. Re:Really? by PPH · · Score: 1

      That's the wind speed. And you are correct: Its not a big deal.

      But the size of the storm is going to increase the storm surge. Add to this the full moon tide (spring tide) and sea levels are going to rise quite a bit.

      Now figure the added time that a storm this size will dwell over land, dropping more precipitation. The inland flooding will be bad. Worse yet due to rivers' inability to flow as well against the extra high tide.

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    2. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Every time someone pronounces something "unprecedented" someone else is able to find something in the archives that preceded it.

    3. Re:Really? by sjames · · Score: 1

      It's part cat 1 hurricane and part nor-easter and that IS odd.

    4. Re:Really? by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      And don't give me that superstorm nonsense, we've had big snowstorms on the eastern seaboard before.

      If this were a snowstorm we were talking about - you'd have a point. Since it isn't, you're just blowing smoke and uneducated bullshit.
       

      An unprecedented and mighty tempest? This is a category 1 hurricane. Since the scale goes up to 5, I think it's safe to say this isn't unprecedented, unless you expect me to believe a hurricane has never hit the eastern seaboard.

      Not at this strength, not in (IIRC) a couple of decades. The Northeast coast rarely sees tropical storms, and sees hurricanes even less often. Combine that with a storm surge that's likely to hit at a full moon high tide... And you've got what could be a Very Big Problem. Smart people get ready just in case.

    5. Re:Really? by mosb1000 · · Score: 1

      They had one last year! I know because I was here for that one too. I'm not saying the storm isn't dangerous. But it's not unprecedented, and it's not "the perfect storm" or a "super storm" or anything like that. That's just hyperbole.

    6. Re:Really? by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      They had one last year! I know because I was here for that one too.

      Um, no. Irene was a tropical storm, not a hurricane when it hit the Northeast. On top of that, Sandy is the largest (in area covered) ever to hit the US by a wide margin.
       

      But it's not unprecedented, and it's not "the perfect storm" or a "super storm" or anything like that. That's just hyperbole.

      You have no clue what you're talking about.

  45. Prove that hurricanes don't respond to temps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Prove that hurricanes don't respond to temp rises.

    Because AGW is and is PROVEN to cause a warmer sea than it should be and that is why hurricanes form: warm sea temps.

    Prove that, despite all the extra global temperature THIS SPECIFIC hurrican would have been no less if that warming were removed.

    Go on. Prove it.

    1. Re:Prove that hurricanes don't respond to temps by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      I *looove* when ACs respond who very obviously didn't read my post. I very clearly laid out how hurricanes respond to temperature increases and get told to prove that they don't.

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      "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"

      - Charles Darwin
    2. Re:Prove that hurricanes don't respond to temps by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Prove that, despite all the extra global temperature THIS SPECIFIC hurrican would have been no less if that warming were removed.

      You're mixing up weather and climate. Any specific weather event doesn't prove anything about climate change one way or another. It's the overall trends that you have to worry about.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  46. Re:Sandy, the Fireworks are hailing over little Ed by confused+one · · Score: 1

    OK, you can have the next couple of storms. We'll send them your way.

  47. TV news said it best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are going to a shelter, for God's sake, take your medication.

    1. Re:TV news said it best by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      If you are going to a shelter, for God's sake, take your medication.

      Nah, just take a big fuckig gun and help yourself to other people's medication. Then throw them out of the shelter.

      It's the ideal time to put that old Randian phlosophy into action.

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  48. Utter CHAOS in Upstate New York Already! by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Funny

    The storm must have skipped the seaboard and struck here already. Cars are flying off the road. Buildings and roads are crumbling. People are begging for money on the street while others are shouting religious mantras to nobody in particular. Cell phone service is spotty and gas prices are climbing.

    Oh, wait. It's just Monday. This happens every Monday here. And Tuesday, and Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Move along, nothing to see here.

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  49. Sandy Cheeks to Visit NYC! by kencurry · · Score: 1

    Howdy Y'all!

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    sigs are for losers (except to point out that sigs are for losers)
  50. people loose internet access? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I`m not trying to be disrespectful, but how do people in the US loose internet access? Doesn`t everyone have a mobile phone with 4G access like an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy? Or are people still using 56k dial-up modems? If the trees take down the dialup modems, you can still use your mobile phone or tablet. Just curious.

    1. Re:people loose internet access? by stillnotelf · · Score: 1
      A) no, mobile phone penetration is not that great - I don't think it's 50% of mobile phones yet, it's certainly less than 50% of the population.

      B) If trees take out the power lines, you'd be stupid to waste your limited battery power just wasting time on the internet, you might need it for an emergency.

      C) What makes you think cell phone towers are immune to power and connectivity losses?

  51. Category 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a category 1 storm. Just a little wind and rain, get over it.

  52. Good luck, storm-targeted folks by stillnotelf · · Score: 1

    I was on a long drive south yesterday (out of Sandy's path, but not as an evacuation - just returning to where I live) and saw a lot of cherrypicker utility trucks convoying north. I saw maybe 50 trucks in the space of 20 minutes in groups of 6-10. Hopefully the long warning time for this storm will let the utilities prepare sufficiently...

  53. I've been pretty impressed by the accuracy of the storm track predictions at least so far. The influence of other weather patterns on the the storm is pretty complex this time, and fairly unusual.

    Yet the simulations seem to have been very accurate in predicting what looks like a fairly complex pattern.

  54. Weather Underground is Slashdotted by N3Bruce · · Score: 1

    I normally sit on Weather Underground during major weather events, normally Weather Underground holds up pretty well. Today, a couple of hours ago, they disabled a few features due to high server load, and a few minutes ago I got an internal server error.

    1. Re:Weather Underground is Slashdotted by supercell · · Score: 1

      If you need basic weather radar try this site. National Radar, plus just about every major. City. Updates every 5 minutes. Its in javascript so it loads super fast. http://web2.wright-weather.com/cgi-bin2/loopradar.cgi?type=mosaic/us_mosaic-&type2=12&type3=cities

    2. Re:Weather Underground is Slashdotted by N3Bruce · · Score: 1

      If you need basic weather radar try this site.

      National Radar, plus just about every major. City. Updates every 5 minutes. Its in javascript so it loads super fast.

      http://web2.wright-weather.com/cgi-bin2/loopradar.cgi?type=mosaic/us_mosaic-&type2=12&type3=cities

      Thanks, it looks suspiciously like the format that WUnderground uses, but with composite images.

  55. Re:divine punishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please tell me... Since when was Kolob in our solar system?

  56. Re:Technology zilch compared to *human* nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am 43 years old. I learned about Global Warming in the equivalent of elementary school back in the seventies. It was called climate change back then, we had to wait until the senate hearings in 1988 to hear James Hansen coin the term "Global Warming". And now, that same James Hansen has published a new report in which he stresses one particular aspect of GW that has been underestimated: the extend of extreme weather.

    It used to be that app. 0.5% of the globe suffered from extreme weather at any given moment. Nowadays, thanks to an 0.8 degree centigrade increase, we have 10-15% of the globe suffer extreme weather (which is also more extreme than it used to be) at any given moment. Every single month we hear about a new freak weather phenomenon somewhere on the globe. From severe drought, to severe flooding, to out of season and out of location tornadoes, and now an unprecedented mix of tropical storm/hurricane with a nor'easter.

    Welcome to the new normal, and no, there are no places left on Earth which will be unaffected.

    P.S. Read up on the IEA (International Energy Agency) reports. According to them we will burn enough fossil fuels before 2035 to raise the temperature of Earth by 3.5 degrees before the turn of the next century. Fun times!

  57. The Beginning of the End by notaspy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wednesday, October 31, 2012. RIP USA. In hindsight, it all should have been obvious three days earlier. That would have been early enough to have prevented it - the shockingly abrupt and utter destruction of the Unites States of America.

    On Sunday (that innocent Sunday just before the end of our world), the events on opposite sides of the country seemed natural, coincidental. The Frankenstorm that Sandy was about to become was just another prediction made by a bunch of self-anointed experts. No biggie, New Jersey could use a good scrubbing. A couple. And the earthquake off Alaska was only about as big as the one we had here in New England last week. Meh. The tsunami that hit Hawaii was measured at nearly half an inch. Not even worth a âoemeh.â

    Most people watching the northeast were anticipating a couple days of storm, a week of cleanup, a bunch of bitching about damage, but employment would have went up in a hurry with all the rebuilding and repairs. One of the Presidential canditates would have made it a central theme of his last campaign week â" The Reconstruction of America. The country would come together, mostly, in a national unity of rebuilding. Spirits and the economy would have soared, the elections turning into a catastrophe for one of the major political parties. But none of that happened, it's just the ravings of a lunatic refugee. A refugee with a goatee. Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!!!!! Sorry, I've had a rough three days.

    The Chinese have been doing large-scale meteorological experiments for many years. They were open about their efforts to control the weather for the 2012 Olympics in the Beijing area. There have been articles published in legal and even mass-market periodicals about the scientific, legal and ethical implications of such research have been debated. It wasn't something unknown to the general public. On the other hand, nobody except a few graduate professors and pharmaceutical chemists noticed the paper in the April issue of Chem. Phys. Acta. entitled âoeRacemization of Novel Isotopes of Mercaptothionitrite.â

    The Alaska earthquake (5.5 Richters) on Sunday caused a mass evacuation of Waikiki and other populated regions of the islands. An overabundance of caution maybe, or maybe a proper abundance of caution. Who knows? It's a statistical thing, so I'll get back to you every Sigma, just like with bosons. How many you want? Three? Four? Five? How much time you got? I got lotsa Sigmas.

    The Vancouver quake on Monday, however, took people by surprise. It was huge, over 9 R, one of the largest quakes ever recorded. Plus, it was a diagonal slip-shear transfer fault. Fortunately, these are extremely rare, and nearly always found in the deep ocean. A series of tsunamis emanating from the quake bounced around the Puget Sound, creating dozens of transitory superharmonic tsunamis over 100 feet high that pretty much created a brand new coastline, mostly devoid of structure or vegetation underneath all the wreckage. But that's getting ahead.

    Nobody paid much attention either to a page 6 story from a supermarket tabloid about a school in India that mysteriously disappeared. The magazine had actually come out in June and was really only a paragraph without many details beyond name of the local region. But somebody did pay attention, and using Google Maps found that in every recent satellite photo of the named region, there was a nearly circular region that was blurred out. In archived photos, however, there was a small town (~75,000 folks) at the location. Somebody pointed this out on Slashdot, and several experts quickly came on to say that they didn't think the photos had been edited. The pictures showed what was actually there. Well, that did it, suddenly a thousand geeks, shut-ins, hackers and conspiracy theorists had a race/joint project/contest, and the story was quickly put together.

    A former pharmaceutical chemist from Bangalore had retired inland, and was running an informal school for recent college gr

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  58. Geographically-aware storm coming! by aclarke · · Score: 1

    Yes, it is 'only' a category one hurricane. That is going to cover ALL of Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Massachusettes, and parts of Virginia, Kentucky, West Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine with at least tropical storm force winds.

    Phew. Lucky for us in Canada it sounds as though it knows to stop at the border!

  59. Re:divine punishment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Modded up +100.

    Best rockin' comment I've read in a long time!

  60. Where is that lifeguard now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where is that lifeguard from the Surf Punks?

  61. NY Fed? by Coppit · · Score: 1

    So the gold vault at thee New York Federal Reserve is underground. When I was there piles of gold had little pieces of paper on top saying who owned them. I wonder what would happen if a bunch of water rushed down there... Hopefully the massive door is waterproof.

  62. Super hyped? Nope. It's the real deal. by hey! · · Score: 2

    Several things about this storm make it "huge", but the most important is that it is, literally, *huge*. The wind speed may not be high compared to hurricanes that routinely cut across Florida, but the sheer geographic scope of the thing is astonishing -- nearly a *thousand* miles across. You could line up two Floridas on a line from the Keys to the Panhandle and *two* would fit in the diameter of this storm. What this means is that many places that might have dodged the bullet of past hurricanes moving up the East Coast are facing something more like a cluster bomb. An individual bomblet might not be as lethal as a well placed bullet, but the whole package is far more deadly.

    The second things about the storm is that it is moving slowly. This means places will endure the winds and rain longer, and many coastal areas will be facing *two* near-record storm surges. Astonishing quantities of precipitation are going to fall over the storm's thousand mile swath. There are are places inland that are projected to get four feet of snow.

    The third thing about this storm is that it isn't petering out. It is interacting with other weather systems and actually becoming slightly more energetic where a normal storm would be dying. This means it's going to retain high tropical force winds much farther north than normally felt. There will be a lot of vulnerable structures that have not been tested by such strong winds recently, if ever. Same for trees. There are going to be power outages on tremendous scales and it'll be the death of a thousand cuts by falling tree limbs. The storm is just getting into swing here in Massachusetts, and already we've got over fifty thousand homes without electricity.

    So this is the real deal -- a bona-fide super-storm like the Blizzard of '78 or the Halloween Northeaster/Perfect Storm of '91. There have been larger storms, and there have been storms with far more spot destructive power, but few that spread destructive power over such a large area for so long.

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    1. Re:Super hyped? Nope. It's the real deal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The second things about the storm is that it is moving slowly

      When was it moving slowly? At the moment it is moving 25 mph, which is on the fast side for a hurricane. At a few random points over the last two days, I saw speeds of 10-15 mph which is pretty typical for hurricane movement.

  63. Re:no its mitt romney health care plan that sick k by sumdumass · · Score: 1

    Some are. Especially when it is due to reckless and intentionally harmful behavior. A drug overdose that kills an unborn child in some states will result in a manslaughter charge. Killing a woman and her unborn child in most states results in two murder charges. In a couple states, if you assault a pregnant woman and cause a miscarriage, you can be charged with manslaughter.

    Riductio ad absurdum only if you're non conscius realitatem

  64. Re:Technology zilch compared to *human* nature by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 1

    Here's a page documenting how some of the forecasts from the US EIA have worked out. These big agencies aren't very on the ball, if we had oil production levels like the IEA forecast a decade ago we'd be paying $2/gal in the US now.

  65. Re:Technology zilch compared to *human* nature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your numbers on extreme weather are completely made up. You might be confusing our better news coverage of the world with actual events.

  66. Webcams by tbird81 · · Score: 1

    Here are some webcams set up. Nothing too interesting at the moment.
    http://aws1.earthcam.com/?c=tsstreet

  67. Nice Weather Radar Site by supercell · · Score: 1

    With the Weather Underground off-line / degraded.... If you need basic weather radar. I found a nice site. It updates ever 5 minutes and is very fast. It has all the major U.S. cities. http://web2.wright-weather.com/cgi-bin2/loopradar.cgi?type=mosaic/us_mosaic-&type2=12&type3=cities

  68. Re:divine punishment by JustOK · · Score: 1

    It has a very eccentric orbit

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  69. Pansies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New Yorkers like to act tough but really they are a bunch of wussies. I used to take walks along the Tamagawa river in Tokyo in Cat 1 and 2 Typhoons (hurricanes for the ignorant) all the time.

  70. Just like the earthquake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the same when NY has the minor earthquake and everyone peed their pants. Those of us in Cali laughed our asses off.

  71. New Jersey Governor ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... Chris Christie has been asked not to evacuate the state capitol. He's helping to hold it down.

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    Have gnu, will travel.
  72. It's NBC by formfeed · · Score: 1

    NBC is behind this hurricane. A massive power outage on the East Coast is the only way their failing new show can survive the first season.

  73. Re:Technology zilch compared to *human* nature by riverat1 · · Score: 1

    The numbers are a bit off but here is a direct quote from an editorial by James Hansen in the Washington Post:

    Such events used to be exceedingly rare. Extremely hot temperatures covered about 0.1 percent to 0.2 percent of the globe in the base period of our study, from 1951 to 1980. In the last three decades, while the average temperature has slowly risen, the extremes have soared and now cover about 10percent of the globe.

    Note, he is only talking about extreme hot temperatures but it wouldn't surprise me if there was a similar effect for other weather events.

  74. Re:I laugh at your impending doom. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a rednecked trailer park dweller, I wish to say DIE DIE DIE DIE.

    It isn't so bad, you city may lay waste, and your stores might be empty, but you can always keep your undeserved smug sense of superiority to everyone who lies below the Mason-Dixon line.

    People north of the Mason-Dixon line may have a smug sense of superiority, but it's certainly not undeserved. They won the fucking war, remember?

  75. Sandy tried! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TS Sandy tried to silence all the morons on the east coast, but sadly failed. You get what you wished for, carry on large population centers.