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A Day in Your Life, Fifteen Years From Now

Fifteen years from now, your alarm goes off at 7:30 AM, pulling you out of a dead sleep. You roll over, grumbling a command, and the alarm obediently shuts up. You drift off again, but ten minutes later the alarm returns, more insistent. It won't be so easily pacified this time; the loose sensory netting inside your pillow will keep the noise going until it detects alpha waves in drastically higher numbers than theta waves. Or until it gets the automated password from the shower. Sighing, you roll out of bed, pull your Computing ID (CID) card from the alarm unit, and stumble out of the bedroom. Pausing briefly to drop your CID into your desktop computer, you make your way to the shower and begin washing. Your alarm triggered the shower's heating unit, so the water comes out at a pleasant 108 degrees, exactly your preference. (42 degrees, you remind yourself — the transition to metric still isn't second nature, after almost two full years.) You wash quickly to avoid exceeding your water quota, and step out refreshed, ready to meet the day. (Read on for more.)

After your shower, you grab a bowl of cereal and head to the living room. Your desktop has already torrented last night's episode of your favorite comedy show, saturating the municipal gigabit fiber connection for almost a full minute to grab the 20-minute program. (You have it set to download in basic 8K, eschewing the 3D and live mashup feeds.) At a spoken command, your TV turns on and begins playback. When a confirmation box pops up on the screen, you state your name to authorize payment for the episode. Unfortunately, because you spent extra time sleeping, you're in too much of a rush to finish the episode. You tell the TV to send the rest to local storage, pull your CID from the desktop, and put it into your phone. While you get dressed, your phone plays back your social streams from last night, filtered to only the closest tier of relationships. After listening to your mother's voice detailing plans for the upcoming holiday, and your best friend summarizing the game he went to, you tell the phone to retrieve streams from one tier further. Ten seconds into yet another political rant from your cousin, you tell it to cancel and you set off for work.

As the door closes behind you, you absently wave your phone by the doorbell panel. The embedded RFID chip triggers the locks and security system, and sends a command to start your car. You climb in and place your phone in its dock. Quickly checking the car's charge and its wireless connection, you say, "Go to work," and lean back into your seat as it rolls out of the driveway. Telling your phone to resume playback, you watch the rest of your show as you wait for your commute to finish. (You're vaguely aware that the car isn't going to the freeway today — there must have been a hack-cident — and you feel irritation yet again at the arbitrarily low speed limits, wishing there was a way to ignore them.) After the show is over, you call up your work email and calendar, and prepare for the rest of the day. It's not until the car comes to a halt and beeps at you that you realize you've arrived in the parking structure. As the induction coils top off your car's charge, you exit the structure and walk over to your building's entrance. After waving your phone past the entry sensor, you stand as still as you can and slowly think your full name. The fMRI sensors process the input quickly and decide you are who you think you are.

Walking into to your office, you drop your phone into its dock and flip on the display, thus interacting with the only two objects on your desk. The display, nearly five feet across (1.5 meters, you mean) scans your CID and instantly restores the projects you were working on yesterday. You notice a handful of button icons are different than they were before. There must have been an OS update overnight. Your mild curiosity over finding a changelog fades when you realize you can't remember the name of the OS to look for it. It's unlikely anyone else at your agency does, either, except perhaps the CTO. Frowning at one of the dead pixels on your display, you remember when you used to have co-workers who dealt with that sort of thing. As your attention returns to your projects, you begin to manipulate the contents of your screen, sometimes moving your hands along the top of your desk, sometimes gesturing in midair. For particularly precise work, you detach a stylus from the side of the display. Occasionally you pause to read or listen to an email and vocalize your response. Pushing your work to the side, you take a moment to check in on your subordinates' screens, watching in real-time as they manipulate data and imagery. When needed, you open the intercom channel and provide direction.

After a couple hours, the advertising campaign your team is working on is nearing completion. You package it up and open a connection to your company's AI provider, working quickly to minimize the fees. Setting the AI to "Human Approximation" (and using "Moderate" fidelity to make it finish in a reasonable amount of time), you run it through the ad campaign and monitor the psychological reactions over a matrix of common phenotypes and personalities. The response from the Super-Rationals isn't good (but then, it never is), and you spot weaknesses in your campaign's ability to reach females in one subculture, and males in two others. You make a quick list of potential improvements to background music and the facial expressions of the computer-generated actors, and send the list off to your team. This project has been particularly stressful; in addition to the legislation currently being debated over how AIs can be used (or whether they can be turned on at all), several patent suits involving advertising methods are hanging over your company's head, and you have to carefully review your team's work to ensure it doesn't cause another. You know far more about patents now than you ever wanted to, but you don't want your company to be one of the early victims. You hope the advertising industry doesn't go through a reckoning as happened with the computer and entertainment industries. There's still money to be made in those sectors, but nobody's getting rich, and you want to retire into one of the planned orbital communities.

Mid-afternoon rolls around before you realize it. Hunger gnaws at your stomach and, perhaps because of that, you're mildly uncomfortable all over. Grabbing your phone and leaving work, you walk down the street to a restaurant. You seat yourself at a booth and call up the menu on the table's display. Finding a likely-sounding sandwich, you browse quickly through pictures, a few reviews, and the nutritional information before confirming your order. Switching the table to browse-mode, you catch up on the news while waiting for your food. It seems another Middle-Eastern country has severed its last wired connection to the outside world as a desperate defense against continual cyberwar. The local police force has been tasked with controlling wireless transmissions, and they're being run ragged trying to construct monitoring stations and conduct wardriving patrols with limited manpower. Nobody is willing to take chances after last year's nuclear incident. Browsing more, you see nothing is new with the coastal flooding situation in Europe, though China has once again increased its level of economic aid. You note with dismay that the U.S. election campaigns, underway for over a year already, are both distancing themselves from the current plans to return to the Moon. The organization that took over for NASA is likely to face budget cuts regardless of who wins.

The server robot finally rolls up to your table and deposits your sandwich, along with a glass of water (soda is a rare treat these days, because of the tax). After eating half your meal and picking at the rest, you realize it's not hunger that's making you feel poorly. You briefly remove the CID from your phone and wave it across the table to pay for your food. You leave a small tip for the robot maintenance engineer, then walk to your car, calling work on your way to notify them you're feeling ill. Once you've instructed the car to go home, you recline the seat and take a short nap. The car gently chimes to wake you when you're safely home. Heading inside, you walk to the bathroom and root around in a drawer for your phone's medical attachment. Once connected, you instruct it to contact the CDC's servers for a virus definition update. You quickly swab your nose and throat, and place the samples on the attachment's sensor, then step into the kitchen to make some tea while you wait. In 20 minutes, the results come back, showing a very strong likelihood that you have the seasonal flu. Your results are automatically sent to the CDC, where their algorithms verify your CID and confirm you had contact with several other people now exhibiting symptoms. An antiviral drug is prescribed for you immediately. You dispatch your car to pick it up.

Laying back down in bed, you pull your CID from your phone and place it into your tablet. Checking your social feeds, you see several get-well-soon messages already from friends and family. You distractedly browse through some of the media your friends have been reading, watching, and playing, but nothing strikes your interest. After your car returns, you take the meds and settle back down with a cup of tea. Undoing the small latches at the corners of the tablet, you pull at the sides, stretching the screen until it's 30 centimeters across. You lay it down and fire up a game of chess. After quickly losing two games, you suspect it won't be good for your rating to play while sick. You briefly consider pulling the CID and playing anonymously, but decide against it. Returning the screen to its default shape, you detach it from the tablet and grab an e-ink screen from the drawer. Once you've firmly seated it on the tablet, the ebook you've been reading appears on the screen right where you'd left off. After reading a while, you begin to nod off. At the increase in theta waves, your pillow's sensor web shuts off the tablet, dims lights throughout the house, and silently monitors your vital signs to see if your symptoms are getting any worse. As you drift off to sleep, you wonder what the next fifteen years will bring.

687 comments

  1. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But before I get in teh shower I'll jump on Slashdot to try and get first post. Some things never change!

    1. Re:But... by SquarePixel · · Score: 5, Funny

      The whole thing seems like lots to do. I would just grab a beer and call it a day.

    2. Re:But... by slashchuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      TLDR

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    3. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You curse the duplicate articles on Slashdot and the lame "Soviet Russia" posts

    4. Re:But... by scuzzlebutt · · Score: 0

      You mean you'll get first post on Slashdot with a spoken command after placing the CID into your computer.

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    5. Re:But... by fbicknel · · Score: 1

      TS;I

    6. Re:But... by durrr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Reads like cheap pulp scifi, lost me after second paragraph.

      What will happen is that you'll throw your low tech cotton pillow onto your 25 year old plastic, night indestructible alarm clock, grumble, and go to your 30 year old(shover head only 10 years old) shower system, swear while the water takes 2 minutes to reach a proper temperature.

      And suddenly you remember this masturbatory futuristic article from slashdot and chuckle heartily.

    7. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And besides, I'll never switch to metric.

    8. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      masturbatory? it sent shivers and chills down my spine...the nightmare kind, not the good kind.

    9. Re:But... by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2

      I dunno, sleeping in until 7:30 sounds pretty sweet to me.

      It also looks like lots of pending work for EEs, here comes the gravy train, whoo whoo!

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    10. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      kinda lost me there too, until then i was thinking it was some euro trying to decide to either move to US or commit suicide

    11. Re:But... by retchdog · · Score: 1

      then don't read any real dystopian literature. you might decide to shoot yourself.

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    12. Re:But... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      And suddenly you remember this masturbatory futuristic article from slashdot and chuckle heartily.

      Actually, that sounds like the worst part of the entire experience.

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    13. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cotton was outlawed in 2021 and the 30 year old shower doesn't exist because the new government approved housing that you had to move into after the Bank of the United Nations repo'ed the house you were renting from the owners, to sell it to fund a tribal war in Euroasia, installed the new ones.

    14. Re:But... by N1AK · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem with predictions of the future like this is that the truly transformational changes aren't usually obvious so they end up with incremental improvements instead. Why on earth would I still have 'a desktop' 15 years from now and what on earth would make me want to have some computing unit (CID) that I plug into various devices when that's even less useful than the closest current equivalent (a mobile phone and bluetooth/wifi). Why on earth would I despatch my car to go on a collection errand when there would be fleets of delivery vehicles constantly passing by etc. This strikes me as a particularly unimaginative and non-compelling attempt to predict the future.

    15. Re:But... by DragonTHC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'd cut the whole thing short. When you go outside to get in your super space car, you get mugged at knifepoint and your cid is stolen.

      You can no longer enter your house, because the door locked, and you can't go anywhere because your car only recognizes your cid and biometrics.

      You decide to get on your bike and ride to the BCC (bureau of citizen computing) where you can apply for a new cid. You stand in line for 6 hours due to everyone's cid getting stolen because it's a stupid idea in the first place.

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    16. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why use delivery vehicles at all when you could have pneumatic tubes?

    17. Re:But... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Funny

      It got some things right. For example I notice the guy lives alone, and his day is largely devoid of physical human contact or looking anyone in the eye.

      Sigh. Forever alone. I just hope Slashdot is still around or my life will be so empty.

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    18. Re:But... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Why on earth would I still have 'a desktop' 15 years from now
      I don't know. I had one 15 years ago, so I assume I would have one 15 years from now.

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    19. Re:But... by jason.sweet · · Score: 4, Funny

      Your lucid argument brings up some very salient points, but it still misses the most important.
      WHERE THE FUCK IS MY FLYING CAR?

    20. Re:But... by DamonHD · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Spot on.

      If not having face time, why travel at all? I already only travel in to my main client a couple of days per week, and only then for the benefits of working cheek-by-jowl with my co-workers since my human firmware needs that sometimes. And my transport is already self-directed and all-electrified and fairly decent (train, underground, elevated light rail ending close to Canary Wharf). Wasting time and energy on travel for the sake of it is silly.

      Yes, it'll be the thing we don't expect and cannot predict that is interesting...

      I'll not start ranting about ID cards, save to point out I happen to be wearing the t-shirt from the only political campaign I've participated in: No2ID (against a previous UK government's heavy-handed attempt to introduce universal ID here),

      Rgds

      Damon

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    21. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "... trying to decide to either move to US or commit suicide"

      Not great options, but on balance I'd go for the suicide!

    22. Re:But... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Somehow, I dont' think that this fairy-story will much resemble the drone-infested, FEMA camp that most USians will inhabit, 15 years from now...

      There's not enough Brazil in the scenario described.

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    23. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What will happen is that you'll throw your low tech cotton pillow onto your 25 year old plastic, night indestructible alarm clock, grumble, and go to your 30 year old(shover head only 10 years old) shower system, swear while the water takes 2 minutes to reach a proper temperature.

      Yes, but with a twist. In 2027 you are indeed using those old objects, but a couple of them were temporarily replaced with something kind of like what's described in the story, many years earlier. And you tried it for a few months and realized that your new one, while having higher-tech components, had some stupid lower-tech-than-1999 aspect to it.

      Maybe back in 2011 or 2021 you did try out one of those wildly gesticulating UIs inspired by some stupid movie, or you tried using a touchscreen in lots of situations where it didn't really make sense. But then six months later, you upgraded to the latest high tech: it's called a "mouse" and you're suddenly a lot less tired, both from not having to flap your arms so much, and also from fewer mentally-exhausting retries after data entry mistakes.

      The sitcom payment was particularly funny. As if they would ever accept your filthy money. It's amusing to think the MPAA members would be long-dead and replaced by revenue-oriented companies in a mere 15 years, but not very believable.

    24. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At no point in the 5 words I read did I see "hovercraft", "dirigible", "microfusion", or "FTL." Therefore, I did not waste my time reading the rest either.

    25. Re:But... by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      I thought the car fetching the prescription from the pharmacy was one of the sillier bits - they are already trialling quadcopter drones for light parcel delivery in Africa. As well as a mailbox, you'd have a mail chute on the roof (presumably with an NFC cryptographic handshake to prevent the local kids from dropping bags of dogshit into your mail).

    26. Re:But... by cifey · · Score: 1

      The B.E.E.R will detect your alpha waves and refuse to pour. Also look out for the automated nagging.

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    27. Re:But... by Shifty0x88 · · Score: 1

      I liked it. The CID probably isn't one of those choice things, I imagine the inspiration for that was the National ID, with a mix of a RFID credit card(as he pays with it as well), and the syncing that every company is doing now across devices, to make it easier on the consumer to go between devices.

      The shower limit is our over-harvesting of our natural resources, as well as the soda tax, because apparently caramel and whatever else is in soda is too expensive to produces/grow/mine/etc.

      Driverless cars are almost a reality, but I could imagine my parent's vision of an automated delivery system going to our house to drop it off, but maybe it's faster to send your car then to wait in the queue for the delivery system.

      The menu at the restaurant is the Microsoft Surface with a restaurant menu system installed and running which I think could be here in a few years, and makes me want to open a restaurant with just those as menus and payment.

      The robot that gives you your food is a newer version of Willow Garage's PR2 robot, and the tip now goes to the guy that fixes that robot. Heck there may even be a PR2 in the back cooking your food for you, reducing cost and goes to the US's outsourcing problem.

      He even got the CDC and the Middle East and stuxnet, and flame and probably others I/we don't know about. Also the AI which runs results on his marketing ad, and the rise of patent litigation in marketing as a natural progression. NASA, well whatever took over getting budget cuts, and our falling interest in space and anything beyond Earth.

      And orbital communities that are in the process of being built(15 years from now), to replace the ISS, and set up a better place to live, since we apparently destroyed Earth or most of it.

      All in all, it's very realistic and probably a lot closer then 15 years, ok well most of it anyways.

    28. Re:But... by QuincyDurant · · Score: 1

      Besides, what could possibly go wrong?

    29. Re:But... by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      >But before I get in teh shower I'll jump on Slashdot to try and get first post. Some things never change!

      Crap! You just reminded me that I should get in the shower and stop reading /. !

    30. Re:But... by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      That's a sad and frankly pathetic reflection of today's instant gratification, zero-details-please society. Even if the... summary... is someone's personal rambling and it being a front-page Slashdot story is questionable.

      (Yes, yes, go ahead and put a TLDR on this too, +5 funny haha)

    31. Re:But... by Zeio · · Score: 1

      Except now the police state mind prison knows what you are reading and crafts minority report style ads to push third-world-slave-made junk on you based on what you read and everything you do.

      This sounds like a worse-than-1984 mind prison police state where freedom isn't even a consideration.

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    32. Re:But... by Zeio · · Score: 4, Informative

      One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich - Alexander Solzhenitsyn

      The Gulag Archipelago - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

      We - Yevgeny Zamyatin

      Nineteen Eighty-Four - George Orwell

      Brave New World - Aldous Huxley

      Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury

      Animal Farm - George Orwell

      The Road to Serfdom - Friedrich August (F.A.) Hayek

      Wealth of Nations - Adam Smith

      The Creature from Jekyll Island - G. Edward Griffin

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    33. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why on earth would I despatch my car to go on a collection errand when there would be fleets of delivery vehicles constantly passing by etc. This strikes me as a particularly unimaginative and non-compelling attempt to predict the future.

      I personally like the autonomous delivery packaging Vernor Vinge used in Rainbows End, where everything is launched at you sub-orbital and the packaging that delivers (decelerating and landing) the payload will fly away to the nearest recovery point on its own if you don't impede it.

      More efficient would be an Internet (if you will) for small physical packages, routing the package from source to destination address through a mesh of small carriers. That sounds more like something Stephenson might have described in Snow Crash or Diamond Age, but maybe I'm projecting.

    34. Re:But... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      You're probably right about the drones, but I don't see why you think that the US branch of the International Arabian Horse Association is going to be all that important in our future.

    35. Re:But... by PhotoJim · · Score: 1

      There was a thread about desktops just yesterday. They're cheaper, they're easier to upgrade and they're cheaper to repair. That will never change.

    36. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "would make me want to have some computing unit (CID) that I plug into various devices"

      That is because an IPv6 address is not a person. It's a device. But where that card sits, sits you. And President Dodd signed the bill that turned it into law.

    37. Re:But... by GrpA · · Score: 1

      Uh, no, that's the "50 years from now" future...

      Or perhaps the "200 years from now" future.

      So yes, I have to agree with this. Not much will change. To see where change doesn't occur, look back over the past two centuries to see what hasn't happened as predicted and you can get a feel for future developments that people just aren't going to accept, as well as how entropy affects things.

      GrpA

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    38. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine when the Space Nutters eventually realize there won't be Moon colonies, asteroid mining, space elevators or 3D printed cars in every living room?

    39. Re:But... by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      This misses another point too... if we've got all these changes in only 15 years... won't the US finally have joined the rest of the world and gone metric? There's no way I'd call 108 degree water "pleasant"....

    40. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's where it's always been -- out of your economic reach.

      The point zero one percent can afford a helicopter no problem.

    41. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would anybody want your CID? It's worthless without your biometric profile.

      Let me tell you abou an even stupider hypothetical world: Every building you want to secure can be opened with a bit of metal that you carry around with you. But each one uses a different metal bit, so you carry around like a dozen of them all the time. And there's no biometric imprinting, so a guy can literally just yoink one out of your pocket and get into your stuff until you physically change the doodad embedded in your doors or devices that probes the metal bit. In fact, the metal bits aren't even unique, a lot of them open up other people's doors or devices! And you could always make a copy of the metal bit using some hardware that's available at every hardware store. What a stupid world!

    42. Re:But... by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "Somehow, I dont' think that this fairy-story will much resemble the drone-infested, FEMA camp that most USians will inhabit, 15 years from now..."

      Fapping to the Apocalypse, such fun.

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    43. Re:But... by lazybeam · · Score: 1

      Two years? We switched in the 1970s around here, well before I was born.

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    44. Re:But... by fearofcarpet · · Score: 1

      The problem with predictions of the future like this is that the truly transformational changes aren't usually obvious so they end up with incremental improvements instead. Why on earth would I still have 'a desktop' 15 years from now and what on earth would make me want to have some computing unit (CID) that I plug into various devices when that's even less useful than the closest current equivalent (a mobile phone and bluetooth/wifi). Why on earth would I despatch my car to go on a collection errand when there would be fleets of delivery vehicles constantly passing by etc. This strikes me as a particularly unimaginative and non-compelling attempt to predict the future.

      I was, coincidentally, watching Tomorrow Never Dies last night, which was released in 1997; 15 years ago. In that film, the villain hacks into GPS satellites to misdirect a war ship and incite a global conflict. He controls everything using a tablet (that is about 5 cm-thick) from a control room filled with large, thin displays. Bond's newest toy is a cell phone that is also a remote control for his car. Bond movies take place in the present, but imagines technologies that are "just around the corner." So what were the transformative technologies since then? Our cell phones are bigger, are tablets are thinner, we have enough high-bandwidth penetration that we can all pirate TV shows, bankers refined the art of screwing the whole world at once, and social media is a big thing. But somehow, in the next 15 years, technology will boom, transforming every aspect of our lives. Not to mention that every prediction about robots in the last 100 years has been wildly off target; that is a tough nut to crack.

      ...so yah, unimaginative, non-compelling, and baseless. Also, sticking your head in an fMRI just to get into your office? Millions of hipsters will be killed in horrific accidents involving "vintage" jeans and the front door! Or do we totally figure out how to keep strong magnetic fields from exerting force on ferrous materials in 15 years? Do we outlaw metal zippers?

      A more likely story; 15 years from now, we're all wondering when the recession will end and lamenting "lost generations" and the utter lack of progress in the first three decades of the 21st Century.

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    45. Re:But... by N1AK · · Score: 1

      All of that can be true and largely non-consequential. The Desktop share of the computing market has dropped considerably. For most users how easy something is to upgrade and cost to repair don't really matter. I am now the only person in my family going up to my Grandparents level who have a pc (Grandparents have laptop and dock), parents have two laptops, me & partner have desktop and laptop and sisters + partner have 2 laptops. Pretty much all my friends barring those who are seriously into gaming or IT don't have desktops any-more, most don't even have docks. The only reason we have a desktop is that we needed a large screen for my partners work and 4 years ago when we bought it (it still is more than sufficient for the task) a capable laptop and dock was too much. When she gets her new work laptop we'll ditch the desktop and connect the screen/keyboard/mouse by a dock.

    46. Re:But... by KevReedUK · · Score: 1

      The shower limit is our over-harvesting of our natural resources, as well as the soda tax, because apparently caramel and whatever else is in soda is too expensive to produces/grow/mine/etc.

      Personally, I thought the drinking water being cheaper than soda was a reference to the current trend to try to encourage social change by imposing taxes on less-healthy options.

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    47. Re:But... by DinDaddy · · Score: 1

      Flying cars can go over security fences and other barriers. Only rich people will be allowed do have them.

    48. Re:But... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Why don't you have a waterproof computer so that you can read Slashdot while you shower?

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    49. Re:But... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Why haven't they cured sleep in he next 15 years? Or tuned it down to a 15 minute drug induced hyper-coma? We are in an incapacitated near-death state for 1/3 of our lives, and nobody sees a problem with that? We can extend our lives by 50% if we just cured sleep.

      I saw the CID as the "secure and trackable config file" that so many things, like current cloud services, want to drive everything. Why move everything? Have it all talk in 10 Gbps wireless (60 GHz frequency to keep down interference and range) and everything uses biometrics of various ways to "authenticate" to me for convenience, with 2-factor for security. Cars would be autonomous pods linking together in train chains, saving energy and improving performance.

      I agree he's looking at what we could have next year if we were all billionaires, with lots of little changes and extended gadgetry, rather than examining the harder guesses that would leave him mostly wrong, as most good guesses are, giving us some cool changes, and missing with others.

    50. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It got some things right. For example I notice the guy lives alone, and his day is largely devoid of physical human contact or looking anyone in the eye.

      So how'd he get the flu?

    51. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know, right?
      Should read, "Then you ACTUALLY wake up, roll out of your bunk and try not to step on the snoring guy below you, pick up your half-worn shovel and head for the mine."

  2. Live free or DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'd rather put bullets in the oppressors' skulls and fall on my own sword than live a life like that.

    -- Ethanol-fueled

    1. Re:Live free or DIE by cayenne8 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I'd rather put bullets in the oppressors' skulls and fall on my own sword than live a life like that.

      No shit.....

      "Water Quota"....seriously?!?!?

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    2. Re:Live free or DIE by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd rather put bullets in the oppressors' skulls and fall on my own sword than live a life like that.

      I know... 7:30 alarm? And you call that life?

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    3. Re:Live free or DIE by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not? Many areas are already under heavy water stress. There are but three ways I can see the future deal with this:
      1. Revolutionary new technology. Perhaps a big increase in the use of nuclear energy for desalination.
      2. Free-market control of demand: You can use all the water you want, but you pay by the litre. Your usage is limited by what you can afford. May work, may just result in the low-income going unwashed because they can't afford more than drinking water. Depends how the market sets the price.
      3. Regulatory control of demand. The water quota.

    4. Re:Live free or DIE by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Yup. I've seen some of the reports on water futures; doesn't look good. Still, the great lakes is the Largest single fresh water source on the planet. Buffalo real estate may heat up soon.

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    5. Re:Live free or DIE by Nutria · · Score: 3, Insightful

      2. Free-market control of demand: You can use all the water you want, but you pay by the litre. Your usage is limited by what you can afford.

      Except that where I live we've had water meters since before the 1960s.

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    6. Re:Live free or DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Water quotas, calorie quotas, travel quotas, space limits (on;y 400 sq ft for a single adult by the proposed standards) and, in the end, a population quota. Currently thought to be about 500 million for the whole of the planet to maintain sustainability but there are suggestions that it be moved down to 100 million. The problem is how to kill off more than 95% of the current population and how are we going to keep any sort of high tech going with so few people. I'm sure the Agenda 21 folks have it figured out, eh?

      Of course, the award winning design for sustainable housing last year was basically a mud hut (called a cobb house) with just a few LED lights run by solar cells so I guess we won't need power plants, wind farms, cell phone systems or computers to generate entertainment or weather reports.

      Get used to it. Civilization's moving forward into the stone age in the name of sustainability.

    7. Re:Live free or DIE by Desler · · Score: 1

      Where do you live that your water usage isn't already metered?

    8. Re:Live free or DIE by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      South-east UK. The UK has historically been mostly on unmetered water, but right now we're in the middle of installing meters as fast as the company can get them plumbed in. It's not exactly a free market though, as we don't have an 'unbundling' regulation as with internet and electricity supply: Whichever company owns the pipe into your house, that's who you'll be buying water from.

    9. Re:Live free or DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The average apartment building......

    10. Re:Live free or DIE by clickclickdrone · · Score: 2

      >"Water Quota"....seriously?!?!?
      There was an interesting article in Time recently that discussed the various (and surprisingly sizable) subsidisation that all US citizens get on various things. One was water where it noted a multi billion dollar project has been going for some years to depolute the water aquifers in the Everglades and mentioned how the water bills you pay are actually a fraction of what it costs to actually provide it. So yes, I can easily imagine it being limited in future.

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    11. Re:Live free or DIE by Cimexus · · Score: 1

      Er? This is not hard to envision and is already kinda the reality in drier parts of the world.

      Firstly, usage in most places is charged per litre. I have relatives in the Midwest of the US that apparently don't pay per litre, but in every other country I've ever been, water usage is metered just like electricity or any other utility.

      Here in Australia during drought periods we have water restrictions that essentially limit you to a certain number of litres per day (they don't cut you off, but the tariff scheme is designed so that the rate per litre starts skyrocketing beyond a certain point). There are various stages of water restrictions (Stage 1 through to Stage 5) that are implemented automatically as water storage levels in the dams reach certain levels (e.g. 40%, 25%, 20%, 15% etc.) Certain activities (e.g. washing cars, watering lawns, filling swimming pools) are banned at certain stages - and yes you can and will be fined for breaching the restrictions.

    12. Re:Live free or DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The sad thing is that we have ways to get potable water.

      A while back, there was a /. article windmill coupled to a compressor, the core part of a dehumidifier. The result was electricity as well as pure drinking water. A lot of places have humidity, but no rain due to constant high pressure "domes". This would allow water to be available regardless.

      There are plenty of other ways as well. It is a matter of won't, rather than can't.

    13. Re:Live free or DIE by busyqth · · Score: 1

      South-east UK. The UK has historically been mostly on unmetered water, but right now we're in the middle of installing meters as fast as the company can get them plumbed in. It's not exactly a free market though, as we don't have an 'unbundling' regulation as with internet and electricity supply: Whichever company owns the pipe into your house, that's who you'll be buying water from.

      That's the way it's been since "forever" in the US, except that the "company" who owns the pipe is often enough the local government.

    14. Re:Live free or DIE by w_dragon · · Score: 1

      The building is still usually metered, and whoever owns it has to pay. If people use more water they'll just raise rent on everyone.

    15. Re:Live free or DIE by Desler · · Score: 1

      Your usage is still metered even if you don't pay the water bill.

    16. Re:Live free or DIE by Desler · · Score: 1

      I've lived in the midwest and the water usage was metered just like the electricity or any other utility.

    17. Re:Live free or DIE by seth_hartbecke · · Score: 2

      You know .. I find your reaction to #2 most interesting. Here in Iowa we do pay by the gallon, not much, but usage is metered. The poor do not go unwashed.

      But, the metering by the gallon was very effective this summer. Nobody went unwashed, but a lot of lawns were brown.

      Honestly, I was stunned when I learned this summer that large sections of California pay flat rate for water. No wonder you abuse/misuse it so much.

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    18. Re:Live free or DIE by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Yeah, good luck with the first part.

    19. Re:Live free or DIE by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      A 7:30am alarm sounds wonderful to me. Right now, my alarm (also known as my oldest son) wakes up at 6am on the dot every morning. He then proceeds to wake me up to make sure it's ok for him to go to the couch and watch some TV. Just when I might be falling back asleep, my youngest son (roused, no doubt, by the noise his older brother is making) wakes up and comes over to hug and kiss us. Then, my wife and I try to ignore that the day is beginning for awhile longer (being so exhausted from the night before) before giving up and getting out of bed.

      The life of a parent.

      Of course, 15 years from now, my kids will be all grown up and (hopefully) out of the house so I'll be able to sleep until 10am on Saturdays if I want to.

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    20. Re:Live free or DIE by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      Trust me, they don't need a reason to raise your rent.

      Just like the car insurance industry, they'll just claim it's an inflation increase adjustment, regardless of the fact that the "official" inflation rate is currently 1.7% but they raise your rates by 3 times that amount.

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    21. Re:Live free or DIE by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have relatives in the Midwest of the US that apparently don't pay per litre, but in every other country I've ever been, water usage is metered just like electricity or any other utility.

      Yea, we call that "having a well."

      FYI, having a well is far from free.

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    22. Re:Live free or DIE by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      lots of places in California's central valley.

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    23. Re:Live free or DIE by trout007 · · Score: 1

      Or just run your shower water automatically through a filter and reuse.

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    24. Re:Live free or DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, 'water quota' is just a scifi exaggeration. it will be more like a 'data cap'. you will get so much water per month or day for a low price. after that, it skyrockets.

    25. Re:Live free or DIE by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2

      My kids (6 and 8) know that they can watch TV quietly in the mornings and they can grab snacks from the fruit bowl. They're perfectly able to put in a DVD, watch Netflix, or use the media player. (It helps that the first two auto-switch the TV to the right input)

      Geez man, if you're going to have an electronic babysitter, let it sit when you're trying to sleep in.

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    26. Re:Live free or DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in NW MI on the eastern shore of Lake Michigan. The Great Lakes states (and Canada) are constantly fighting the battle to prevent more water diversion. I think in the future that battle will get more intense. But, for right now, lots of water, beach and sunny skies (at least, in the summer).

    27. Re:Live free or DIE by serviscope_minor · · Score: 5, Informative

      The UK has historically been mostly on unmetered water,

      And also historically lurches between flooding and hosepipe bans. Not that metering will fix the legendarily leaky pipes. Or fix the fact that after selling off the water authorities, the companies went on and sold off all the resevoir land for development.

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    28. Re:Live free or DIE by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      Of course, 15 years from now, my kids will be all grown up and (hopefully) out of the house so I'll be able to sleep until 10am on Saturdays if I want to.

      No, it's sweeter than that. In 8 years or so, they'll both be teenagers, and probably want to sleep nutil 3 in the afternoon. You can gleefuly wake them up at 9am on the weekends to go and do family stuff.

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    29. Re:Live free or DIE by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Why not? Many areas are already under heavy water stress. There are but three ways I can see the future deal with this:
      1. Revolutionary new technology. Perhaps a big increase in the use of nuclear energy for desalination.
      2. Free-market control of demand: You can use all the water you want, but you pay by the litre. Your usage is limited by what you can afford. May work, may just result in the low-income going unwashed because they can't afford more than drinking water. Depends how the market sets the price.
      3. Regulatory control of demand. The water quota.

      4. Massive attrition through war for resources.

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    30. Re:Live free or DIE by ZorinLynx · · Score: 1

      >You can use all the water you want, but you pay by the litre.

      Isn't this already how it is? Or did I miss something? o.O

    31. Re:Live free or DIE by sir-gold · · Score: 2

      And it doesn't help that Chicago feels like it owns Lake Michigan, and can grant permits for companies to dump waste into it.

    32. Re:Live free or DIE by spire3661 · · Score: 0

      ITS WATER, its hard to abuse a resource when 2/3 of the earth are covered in it and 1/3 of the molecule that makes it up is the most common atom in the entire cosmos. The only thing that causes water shortages is ECONOMIC REASONS.

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    33. Re:Live free or DIE by tomhath · · Score: 1

      1 and 3 won't happen, certainly not within 15 years.

      There are places in the country that have water shortages but most places have plenty, so whatever action is taken it will be from a local water authority. In places that need to conserve water there are two possibilities: Restricted activities (e.g. no watering your lawn even if the neighbor's kids were playing on it), and possibly a two tiered pricing structure (e.g. first X gallons per person in household at low price, above that at a much higher price). Two-tiered priced only hurts the middle class though, poor don't pay so who cares, and rich can afford it.

    34. Re:Live free or DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us pull water out of the very ground we stand on!

    35. Re:Live free or DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4. People move out of idiotic places where there's not enough water like the freaking desert.
      5. We stop using water in these stressed areas for agriculture.

      The current "oh nooos there's not enough water!" thing pisses me off. It's completely overblown, and it's too often stated in such a way to make people think saving water in Detroit has some sort of impact on water usage in Arizona. Water is local, and always will be. Water as a resource is as old as mankind. Water is so basic to life that the moment there's some sort of "water quota" for anything other than watering your lawn, people will just go somewhere else, or not even move into an area.

      There certainly are places on the planet that are under water stress. There always have been. The easiest solution is don't live there, duh. Move your industry/agriculture to where the water actually is. It's not like the water is being "used up", though with climate change it might change where the water resources exist. I'm sure it's a problem for some people in the world, but the whole thing is misunderstood and hyped way too much.

    36. Re:Live free or DIE by seth_hartbecke · · Score: 1

      Minor correction: Midwest city dwellers are metered. People who live on a farm have to build their own well, pay for the electricity to operate it, and pipe infrastructure.

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    37. Re:Live free or DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here here. /Fighting this guys future till the last breath.

    38. Re:Live free or DIE by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

      My In-laws are on a well, so no metering or payment for them.

    39. Re:Live free or DIE by dubbreak · · Score: 1

      97% of the water on the Earth is salt water. Of the 3% "fresh water" slightly over two thirds of it is frozen in glaciers and polar ice caps.

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    40. Re:Live free or DIE by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 1

      7:30 alarm? And you call that life?

      You'll call it "luxury" or "desperation", depending on your bank balance.

      In 15 years, if you're still in bed at 7:30, it's because you're unemployed. The salaried workers have been in their cubes since 6 AM, and will be there until 6 PM.

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    41. Re:Live free or DIE by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      regardless of the fact that the "official" inflation rate is currently 1.7% but they raise your rates by 3 times that amount.
      Well, that is what happens when the rate of inflation is 3 times the "official" inflation rate. Unfortunately, you are dealing with an entity whose largest costs are taxes and insurance, both of which increase much faster than inflation overall. Local taxing authorities regularly increase the assessed value of real property by 6-10% every year even in a market where the value of the property is falling. For example, my house is assessed by the local tax guys at $425,000, but I recently failed to refinance it due to being "upside down" even though I owe only about $260,000 on it. Insurance similarly goes up by about 10-20% per year, especially on rental property.

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    42. Re:Live free or DIE by gknoy · · Score: 1

      You oversimplfy. Saying "It's water!" to desert-dwellers is like dismissing a submariner's concerns about air.

      Salt water is useless for drinking and irrigation, and in a desert (southern California), nearly all the water has to be imported. Southern California gets most of it from the Colorado river and Northern California, and tensions are rising with the people living in northern Cali or Arizona as we take more and more of their water.

      Yes, "economic" reasons. It costs money to make aqueducts, money to buy the water from Arizona (though not enough, apparently?), money to run desalination plants. The latter would be awesome, as then we could just slurp up the ocean water that we are next to, but at this point it seems to be cheaper to import the water. (I seem to recall there being some shady price issues around that, but it's been eight or ten years since I read much about it.)

    43. Re:Live free or DIE by Rogue+Haggis+Landing · · Score: 1

      I have relatives in the Midwest of the US that apparently don't pay per litre, but in every other country I've ever been, water usage is metered just like electricity or any other utility.

      Yea, we call that "having a well."

      FYI, having a well is far from free.

      The largest city in the Midwest only has metered water for a small percentage of houses. For everyone else you are charged a flat fee. Chicago is trying to convince people to install meters, saying that metered water can result in lower bills if you use less than what you'd be billed for. So what's happening is that people who use very little water are installing meters and people who use a lot don't. This shouldn't be a big deal because we have a truly massive lake right beside the city, but the water level is a problem because they reversed the Chicago River to flow out of Lake Michigan rather than into it. Anyway, as of late September, only 41% of Chicago water accounts were metered.

    44. Re:Live free or DIE by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 1

      Here in WI. we generally pay for X money for up to Y gallons ( usually 3K-6K ) and if you go over you buy one more unit at either a reduced rate or the same rate.

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    45. Re:Live free or DIE by imuffin · · Score: 1

      Can someone explain to me how taking a shower affects how much water is available?

      I mean, I get that increased irrigation of agriculture uses water. Water is pumped from a river onto a field, where it evaporates.

      But when It take a shower, water streams over my body, and then is captured by the drain, treated, and returned to the river. Very little evaporates. It's almost a closed system. Why does it matter how much water I use in the shower, or to wash dishes, or drink and then piss back into the system?

    46. Re:Live free or DIE by Anon-Admin · · Score: 1

      Unless you have your own well, then it is not metered. He must have been on a farm.

    47. Re:Live free or DIE by dohnut · · Score: 1

      I live in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and we pay by the CCF (100 cubic feet or 748 gallons). Oddly, water consumption is a fairly small part of my water bill.

      In January 2011 here's what I paid (note: we pay bi-monthly, so this is roughly 2 months worth of charges):

      Water - Residential:
      68 days at $0.31 per day = $21.08 (this is just for having water hooked up regardless of usage)
      4 CCF (about 3000 gallons) at $1.62 per CCF = $6.48 -- this is the only figure affected by my consumption (aside from the subsequent taxes)
      Tax = $1.93 (I don't know what this tax is)
      Total Charges: $29.49

      Sewer - Residential:
      68 days at $0.35 per day = $23.80 -- this is allegedly influenced by my consumption, but they do not show the math. I think the 4 CCF figure above probably includes both supply and sewer costs. I think this fee is a fixed maintenance fee.
      Total Charges: $23.80

      Storm Sewer - Residential:
      68 days at $0.14 per day = $9.52 (maintenance fee)
      Total Charges: $9.52

      Sub Total: $62.81
      Tax (7%) (state + county): $4.40
      Grand Total: $67.21 of which about 10% is for actual water usage - the rest I owe even if I never turn on a tap.

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    48. Re:Live free or DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scotland - I pay based on the size of my property (on a graded scale) for water/sewage systems/bin collections etc. It's called council tax. Rounds out to about £1k a year for my (decent sized, 1 bedroom, Victorian flat) place.

      But nothing is 'metered' so to speak - the bins only get collected twice a week at specific times, but I can always take it down the dump myself any time I need. I can use as much as water as I like - well up to the point where the council start to think they've got a burst pipe somewhere - but I've certainly never had to consider how much I use, although do anyway due to years of absorbing guilt from English and US TV shows about water conservation :S

      Never flooded (apart from flat upstairs getting us good), never had a hose-pipe ban, never really had any idea how much water I use on a daily basis - which would probably scare me tbh.... oh well.

    49. Re:Live free or DIE by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      Or, you split potable-quality from non-potable quality water, (perhaps with on-the-spot filtering & recycling of things like shower water, though it's not necessary). Quite simple, really-- you should try some time on a kibbutz :).

    50. Re:Live free or DIE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lake Baikal is actually the largest liquid fresh water source in the world.

    51. Re:Live free or DIE by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 1

      Way to completely miss the point. In almost all areas of the US, water usage fees are really sewer/water treatment fees.

    52. Re:Live free or DIE by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Except water quotas aren't about conserving water, it's about controlling the populace. If it was, they wouldn't be working on water quotas in places with plenty of potable water, and they are doing that now. Where I live, they now charge $50 a month for ACCESS to water, plus usage, plus sewer. And I live 4 blocks from a pretty good-sized river.

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    53. Re:Live free or DIE by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Ah, you are correct, sir!

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    54. Re:Live free or DIE by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Some of us pull water out of the very ground we stand on!

      And soon you will be required to buy a meter and pay for every drop of water you take out of your own ground. They're already doing it in Washington state. Which is a weird place to start, because Washington is wet as crap all year long.

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    55. Re:Live free or DIE by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      Well, I pay by the cubic meter.

    56. Re:Live free or DIE by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      I hate to break it to you, but they are implementing water restrictions all over the place, and not only in places where there are shortages. They probably have plans to do it in your area, too. If you don't believe me, check your local city or county for their "comprehensive plan". Also note that the board they are planning to create that will have control over your water can also charge you for water you draw from a well on your own land, can take property through imminent domain, and are not accountable to any voters because they are not elected.

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    57. Re:Live free or DIE by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      The problem is how to kill off more than 95% of the current population and how are we going to keep any sort of high tech going with so few people. I'm sure the Agenda 21 folks have it figured out, eh?

      Yes, it appears they plan to use mandated vaccinations.

      "The world today has 6.8 billion people... that's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent."

      -- Bill Gates

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    58. Re:Live free or DIE by PoolOfThought · · Score: 1

      This is close to what happens where I live now. Water is $35 or so for the first 1000 gallons and then some number of centers per gallon beyond that. We almost always pay the minimum at our house... normal water bill around $42 including garbage collection. I thought this tiered pricing was how it was everywhere... except that in some places that flat fee was more / less. I've got friends that live in the next city over that pay close to $80 per month for water and I just assumed their tier started higher.

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    59. Re:Live free or DIE by styrotech · · Score: 1

      Because not all of the water taken from that river ends up back in the same catchment for that river.

      Also depending on where that water comes from (eg with aquifers) the time it takes for new rain to end up in your pipe could take an extremely long time.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residence_time#Environmental

      There might be a closed water cycle globally, but there isn't locally on some of the time scales we care about.

    60. Re:Live free or DIE by Stargoat · · Score: 1

      Those fuckers in Chicago pretty much fuck up everything they see. I had the misfortune of living in Cook County. The entirety of the county officials should all be put up against the wall and shot.

      They've polluted the Illinois River enough. Now it's going into Lake Michigan.

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    61. Re:Live free or DIE by Cimexus · · Score: 1

      It's not just those on a well who aren't metered. Depends on the area you're in, but there are plenty of places in the Midwest that have unmetered city/municipal water.

    62. Re:Live free or DIE by Skreems · · Score: 1

      3. Regulatory control of demand. The water quota.

      By FAR the largest use of the water supply is farming, followed by industrial use. Personal use is a distant 3rd.

      Which is not to say we won't try to ration there... we impose fuel efficiency metrics on automobiles, even though 2 of the 30ish supertankers currently ferrying freight around the world produce more pollution than the entire automobile fleet. It just wouldn't do much good.

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    63. Re:Live free or DIE by heefeneet · · Score: 1

      The UK has historically been mostly on unmetered water,

      And also historically lurches between flooding and hosepipe bans. Not that metering will fix the legendarily leaky pipes. Or fix the fact that after selling off the water authorities, the companies went on and sold off all the resevoir land for development.

      The south-east of England is the place where the hosepipe bans happen. Its also the most populated area and has the least water.

    64. Re:Live free or DIE by makomk · · Score: 1

      May work, may just result in the low-income going unwashed because they can't afford more than drinking water.

      You assume that they'll even be able to afford drinking water. That's probably a bad assumption. We've already had outbreaks of dysentry amongst the poor here in the UK from Thatcher privatising the water industry; they only stopped once the government banned water companies from cutting off people's water altogether.

  3. Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    No way this is ever going to happen. The US convert to metric? Come on.

    1. Re:Just too far out by 14erCleaner · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And shouldn't the car be flying? Remembering back a few decades, the main difference between then and now is that "modern" people play with their phones a lot. I see no reason to think the future will change any faster.

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    2. Re:Just too far out by 14erCleaner · · Score: 5, Funny

      And Slashdot still won't allow you to edit or delete your posts when you screw up the tags. :P

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    3. Re:Just too far out by Sarten-X · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm slowly writing a scifi story where all the measurements are based on Planck units, combined in various ways with the numbers 20 or 60 to reach human-accessible sizes.

      The premise is that humanity was wiped out, and the only survivors are a bunch of pedants.

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    4. Re:Just too far out by menno_h · · Score: 1

      The US convert to metric? Come on.

      The 9 mm bullet is a big success.

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    5. Re:Just too far out by IT.luddite · · Score: 1

      what is this crap, kuro5hin? I'm new here, I actually read it and want the time I wasted back. and yes, the US will convert to metric just as soon as the entire adult populace is educated past an 8th grade level.

    6. Re:Just too far out by nightcats · · Score: 1

      I have a desktop computer 15 years from now? I even have a desktop 15 yrs. from now?

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    7. Re:Just too far out by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Thank goodness for small favors. Editing posted comments would be a crime against humanity. Let's hope it never, ever happens. God gave us the "Preview" button for a reason.

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    8. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      like we said, never going to happen. Sigh.

    9. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Most cartridges in the U.S. are sold by the (imperial) calibre: .223, .22 long rifle, .243, .308, &c.. That said... 9mm ~= 0.354325 inches which is pretty close to .357 (which is the actual calibre of 38 special, which was named for the drill bit which a gunsmith would use when converting a .36 calibre percussion revolver to cartridges), so one can if desired use a conversion cylinder to fire 9mm in your 38 special/.357 magnum revolver.

      Moreover, the U.S. military has rather regretted the NATO-induced change to 9mm and a number of units are switching back to .45 ACP.

    10. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you mean .354 cal.

    11. Re:Just too far out by jeffmeden · · Score: 2

      And shouldn't the car be flying?

      Remembering back a few decades, the main difference between then and now is that "modern" people play with their phones a lot. I see no reason to think the future will change any faster.

      "Modern" people have a cheap, compact, completely connected computer in their pocket at all times. Did we see that coming 15 years ago? Before you say "sure, things constantly get smaller" the real thing that surprised the world wasnt that they exist, but the fact that just about everyone (that can afford it) has decided they "need" one.

    12. Re:Just too far out by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

      I have a desktop computer 15 years from now?

      I don't know about you, but the only way I won't have a desktop computer 15 years from now is if they pry it from my cold, dead hands!

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    13. Re:Just too far out by jeffmeden · · Score: 2

      I'm slowly writing a scifi story where all the measurements are based on Planck units, combined in various ways with the numbers 20 or 60 to reach human-accessible sizes.

      The premise is that humanity was wiped out, and the only survivors are a bunch of pedants.

      Spoiler alert: the apocalypse was caused by alien intelligence that took over TV and turned everyone watching into brain dead zombies. The only ones that survived were those douches who go around telling everyone about how nice it is to not own a TV.

    14. Re:Just too far out by nomadic · · Score: 4, Funny

      Metric is for people who are too bad at math to mentally convert from different base systems.

    15. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "but the fact that just about everyone (that can afford it) has decided they "need" one."

      I be one of those holdouts. CanI afford it? Yes. Do I want to pay to allow the world to track my whereabouts as I travel the planet on a day to day basis? No, thanks. There are still pay phones when I really need one, and free internet terminals here and there as well.

      Thanks, but I prefer not to be tethered to a smart phone/cellphone/tablet, or anything else.

    16. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US is officially metric. Use of it is not enforced, along with the freedom to cary guns you also have the freedom to use the unit of your choice.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication_in_the_United_States

    17. Re:Just too far out by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      What surprises me is how much absolute shit these things are. I wish I could get a good model Compaq iPaq from the late 90s. Where is PocketLibreOffice with handwriting recognition? I used to write literature--solid--on a 3.5 inch TFT at real-time scribble speeds.

    18. Re:Just too far out by readin · · Score: 1

      If America converts to metric 13 years from now - well, I'm not sure I would want to live in such a world.

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    19. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      President Zuckerberg has outlawed flying cars to anyone with less than 180,324,201 friends.

    20. Re:Just too far out by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

      No kidding. I got to that part and thought "The 1970s called. They want their conversion to metric back."

      Didn't happen then. Not going to happen in the 2020s.

    21. Re:Just too far out by sir-gold · · Score: 1, Insightful

      People still watch live TV?

      Every so often I look at the TV listings and I just can't figure out why someone would sit and watch 10 back-to-back episodes of 'ghost hunters' or 'american choppers' every day. Day-time TV is nothing but marathons of reruns, and night time (when they used to do re-run marathons) is now nothing but back-to-back infomercials.

      It almost makes me miss the days of the test pattern, when they would at least have the decency to turn off the transmitter when they had nothing of value to transmit, instead of 24 hours of crap that nobody wanted to watch the first time it aired, let alone the 10th time.

    22. Re:Just too far out by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      10 years ago no-one thought social network would be as big as it has become. That came out of nowhere pretty much. 15 years ago there was no YouTube, and piracy was in its infancy, people using dial-up modems and Napster. Now these two are the main ways many people listen to music or watch video.

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    23. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I even have a desktop 15 yrs. from now?

      Well, I have a desktop under here somewhere, so I imagine it will still be there in 15 years. It's going to take a lot longer than that to clean this place up...

    24. Re:Just too far out by dubbreak · · Score: 1

      "the real thing that surprised the world wasnt that they exist, but the fact that just about everyone (that can afford it)
      has decided they "need" one.

      You can thank modern marketing for that one. Advancements everywhere! We are in the future!

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    25. Re:Just too far out by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

      The educated adults realized that it is cost prohibitive to switch with no real benefit other than "everyone else is doing it". If I need to replace a bathroom fixture in my home that is already plumbed with .5" copper pipe I will need to have fixtures available that match that. There is all sorts of durable infrastructure already in place that will continue to need servicing for a long time. It is not really practical to change.

    26. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heck, I remember being in high school 25 years ago and wishing I was rich enough to own a non connected, 1Mhz, 8bit machine that fit in my pocket.

      The computr in my pocket was the MOST predictable invention of the last 50 years. IT IS THE CONNECTIVITY THAT ALLOWS ME TO WRITE THIS POST ON THE TOILET THAT IS WONDEROUS.

    27. Re:Just too far out by greg1104 · · Score: 1, Funny

      Awesome, I enjoyed the prequel to that one already.

    28. Re:Just too far out by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      The educated adults realized that it is cost prohibitive to switch with no real benefit other than "everyone else is doing it".

      Thank you!!

      That is the single best argument against it. Aside from being 'fashionable' or going along with the rest of the world...what would really be the benefit of the avg. US citizens life, by switching to metric?

      Seriously?

      It isn't like most in the US interact with the rest of the world that is on metric, we're pretty isolated and here amongst ourselves for most of our lives.

      Changing everything over..would cause a great deal of turmoil....take a lot of time, cause years of confusion for many....and exactly, what would be the perceived benefit for this cost?

      I can't think of much....

      And just way of life....most everyone here knows inately how to dress if the temperature outside is 45F.

      I'd never get used to trying to figure out how to dress if it was 20C out.....

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    29. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The premise is that humanity was wiped out, and the only survivors are a bunch of pedants.

      You know... there are lots of pedants that still retain their humanity. (Sorry, just trying to hedge my chances in your scenario)

    30. Re:Just too far out by Razgorov+Prikazka · · Score: 1

      The Yankees threw out the imperialistic Limeys but kept their imperial system. Hilarious isn't it? At least I think so.
      But calling it a dumb system is rather a bit ignorant. Even the blue collar workers without any formal education are constantly calculating from 3/8th of an inch into feet, furlong per gallon into to pints per yard, barrel to firkin and so on. Compared to that shifting zeroes around is ab-so-lute childsplay!
      I think keeping imperial is just their way of saying: Hey dumbass, when you are past 8th grade give me a call and we'll do some real calculations!

      Nevertheless I think that since nearly everyone uses metric... meh, why not them too huh?

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    31. Re:Just too far out by neurovish · · Score: 2

      Yes. The Apple Newton came out almost 20 years ago.

    32. Re:Just too far out by bonehead · · Score: 2

      No, piracy was, at the very least, well into adolescence.

      Not sure when the "infancy" was, but it was way further back than Napster. Requesting the Sysop to put a disc online so you could grab copies of Norton Utilities and Turbo Pascal? Nah, still too advanced. Swapping Apple II games on 5 1/4 floppy, and then bypassing the copy protection with "Locksmith"? Nah, still too advanced.

      Hell, Bill Gates used to throw hissy fits back in the day about copies of Microsoft Basic being traded around on paper tape without licensing fees being paid.

      Napster was nowhere NEAR the infancy of digital piracy.

    33. Re:Just too far out by bonehead · · Score: 1

      I have a desktop computer 15 years from now? I even have a desktop 15 yrs. from now?

      Sheesh. Bunch of kids posting to this article acting like 15 years is a long time.

      In 15 years when Windows 9 comes out, people will be posting on /. about how they refuse to upgrade because Windows 7 still works just fine for them. Cellular data speeds will have increased. Gamers will be drooling over rumors about the upcoming PS5.

      That's probably about it.

    34. Re:Just too far out by mark-t · · Score: 4, Informative

      Canada managed to do the conversion... so it's not impossible. I was in grade 2 when the switchover started, in 1971, and I distinctly remember the school textbooks being one of the very first things to change. I won't try to argue that there wasn't any confusion during metric's introduction here, but from my understanding, it wasn't anywhere nearly as bad as a lot of people speculated it might be. Its adoption was in Canada was actually quite gradual, and if I remember correctly, the overall transition period lasted somewhere around a decade, completing just before I graduated high school.

      I'd never get used to trying to figure out how to dress if it was 20C out

      You might be surprised. When you're exposed to a particular system on an almost constant basis, you'll eventually get to a point that your brain will think in that system, unless you are actively trying to resist change.

      I remember that my parents sometimes struggled with metric when it was introduced in Canada, but in the end, they still managed to get by. In fact, over time, both of them appeared to eventually acquire an intuitive way to convert between the systems. Although their conversion was not truly numerically accurate, it gave them enough of a mental picture of what they needed to know, in ways that they could relate to. I remember when my family was visiting them last summer, and I mentioned to them that the temperature the next day was supposed to be 30 degrees according to the weather report, my dad immediately commented about that being about 85 degrees, which is close enough in Fahrenheit that you wouldn't have a problem knowing how to dress for that weather, even if you only ever previously thought in imperial.

    35. Re:Just too far out by bipbop · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd never get used to trying to figure out how to dress if it was 20C out.....

      Yes, you would. I decided one day I'd use Celsius all the time, even though I live in California. My goal was to try to get an intuitive feel for what different temperatures mean, without mentally converting. It took me a little while, but it didn't really take any effort.

      I'm not saying you need to switch, but it's kind of fun, and I'm sure you're capable of it.

    36. Re:Just too far out by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 2

      Uhh, dude... piracy has been around since computing began. In the olden days it was known as "sneaker-net" ( NOTE: also had a non-piracy use for sharing information as well ). Where do you think "Don't copy that floppy" came from?

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    37. Re:Just too far out by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 1

      Changing everything over..would cause a great deal of turmoil....take a lot of time, cause years of confusion for many....and exactly, what would be the perceived benefit for this cost?

      I can't think of much....

      I can think of some doozies:
      1: Our sciences educations wouldn't be slipping as far into the toilet as they are now.
      2: we would have an easier time inter-operating with other countries scientists during research and that leads to...
      2: we wouldn't be unintentionally slamming multimillion / billion dollar space research stuff into planets due to a piss poor metric > imperial conversions after working with other countries on the machinery.

      Seriously, here in the U.S. _NOT_ switching / phasing into metric is stupid, just as stupid as the English driving on the left of the road when 98% of the rest of the world drives on the right of the road. If we want to actually grow in the global economy we need to be able to talk the talk as well as walk the walk, other countries learn english as a second language so they can do business with us, we should reciprocate and learn their measurement systems as well. The metric teachings when I was in school... they could make a cat laugh they had been so bad.

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    38. Re:Just too far out by Anon-Admin · · Score: 1

      Unless you are going to mars then you want them to use a single unit and not change mid calculation.

      http://articles.cnn.com/1999-09-30/tech/9909_30_mars.metric.02_1_climate-orbiter-spacecraft-team-metric-system?_s=PM:TECH

    39. Re:Just too far out by Master+Moose · · Score: 1

      So that it becomes a double click to post?

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    40. Re:Just too far out by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      I can think of some doozies: 1: Our sciences educations wouldn't be slipping as far into the toilet as they are now.

      2: we would have an easier time inter-operating with other countries scientists during research and that leads to...

      2: we wouldn't be unintentionally slamming multimillion / billion dollar space research stuff into planets due to a piss poor metric > imperial conversions after working with other countries on the machinery.

      1. Well, I've not been in a science class lab yet, that didn't already do things in metric...chemistry, etc, was all metric (ml, etc).

      2. I've not seen much in the science field where metric isn't used...chemistry, biochem...etc. So, that conversions already pretty much there.

      I'm talking about the common day people doing every day things...watching the weather forecast, setting the thermostat in their home, figuring how their car gas mileage is doing...etc.

      There's no real benefit in every day living for the majority of the people in the US for changing to the new system.

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    41. Re:Just too far out by lxs · · Score: 1
    42. Re:Just too far out by snowraver1 · · Score: 1

      There might be one more probe on Mars if you had converted to Metric. Also, many companies like to have measurements in Metric, so that sometimes cases duplicate work.

      There are real world costs.

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    43. Re:Just too far out by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      Logic fail--the only people that bad at math are Americans!

    44. Re:Just too far out by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 1

      Yes, well, that's why the sciences are generally avoided in the U.S. in recent times. I see it in the University I am currently at, students drop the hard sciences classes because " converting is too hard" or "this metric stuff doesn't make sense / I don't know how big a Mg really is" and go to some stupid useless shit that everyone else is doing like MBA programs.
      We don't need the influx 100s of thousands of MBAs nearly as much as we need the whole diversity of the hard sciences.

      So one thing that would improve for the general citizen ( more the "important" general citizen anyways ) would be easier post High school education. Even the older generation would benefit, one example from my prior career:
      I worked in a weld shop, everything was done with imperial blueprints because we had only done work for local / U.S. companies. Well, the shit hit the fan when we got blueprints in from international customers / companies and it was in metric. Most of the older guys had no idea how to interpret metric units, and it was mostly us younger guys in our early to mid 20's ( at the time ) to go through and teach them how to convert / guesstimate what the thing was supposed to look like in the end. If they already knew metric we would have saved tons and tons of man hours of wasted time meaning we could have charged less and gotten larger contracts sooner. So indirectly not knowing metric cost the company money.

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    45. Re:Just too far out by CheshireDragon · · Score: 1

      Yeah that was late 80s? early 90s?

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    46. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes. Slashdot wisdom. You cannot divide 10 by 3. Because we only believe in integers, goddamnit.

    47. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where is PocketLibreOffice with handwriting recognition?

      I'm not sure about useable office software on modern smartphones. I used a Palm in high school and what was available then was quite usable. On the other hand, I'm not sold on handwriting recognition... I could use the on-screen keyboard on my Palm at least as fast as Graffiti (which is, in turn, much better than handwriting for me... but I do write pretty slow. Modern on-screen keyboards are still pretty bad compared to physical keyboards, but with Swype/autocorrect, I can type pretty fast. Certainly faster than I can write legibly.

    48. Re:Just too far out by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

      I thought that was Cmdr Taco and Cowboy Neal?

    49. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2: we would have an easier time inter-operating with other countries scientists during research and that leads to...

      When I was in college, I had a job as a lab technician. Interoperating with with other countries was no problem: the lab equipment measured everything (pressure, temperature, distance, etc.) in volts, and we could provide the customer with results in whatever units they wanted just by changing which set of conversion tables the software used.

      (We had one joker request an elevated-temperature tensile test with the temperature in Romer and tensile strength in grains per square Smoot. He got his results.)

    50. Re:Just too far out by dmacleod808 · · Score: 1

      seriously, a pay phone? I wandered about downtown chicago once for 20 min when my phone died, and could not find a single one.

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    51. Re:Just too far out by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      We would invent a brand new measurement scheme using a Base-12 number system before we switch to metric. Only communists like Europeans and Thomas Jefferson would be in favor of metric.

    52. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think piracy was in its infancy 15 years ago, you obviously weren't paying attention. Just about the only thing I didn't pirate on my Toaster Mac was the OS.

    53. Re:Just too far out by PhotoJim · · Score: 1

      Sports - and not even always then, but I still prefer to watch sporting events live so I can't have a brain cramp and accidentally look at sports websites and see the score.

      My team was up by 17 with 4:00 remaining in a game a few weeks ago in a CFL game, and I accidentally read an article that said "Roughriders lose in overtime". It's amazing how your mind can talk you out of the news being true when it just seems to improbable. But of course, it was true. It would have been more exciting if I'd actually watched the wheels fall off naturally instead of trying to anticipate how it was going to happen.

    54. Re:Just too far out by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      Spoiler alert: the apocalypse was caused by alien intelligence that took over TV and turned everyone watching into brain dead zombies. The only ones that survived were those douches who go around telling everyone about how nice it is to not own a TV.

      It was sounding pretty good until I saw the element that turned it into a true dystopia.

    55. Re:Just too far out by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      I'm from Canada, and younger than you, so I was always surrounded by Metric. There's two notable exceptions to the metric system:
      -People ALWAYS tell their height in feet and inches
      -People ALWAYS tell their weight / mass in pounds.

      Here's some other exceptions:
      -People tend to give rough measurements in feet/inches and pounds.

      -For some reason people use MPG for fuel economy when distances aren't measured in miles, and fuel isn't sold in gallons. Dealer ads use "MPG" as well. To make matters worse, the "official" Canadian gallon is the Imperial gallon (4.5L), not the US Gallon (3.8L), but a lot of people that use MPG are too stupid to tell the difference. Half the TV / ads are American, showing US-MPG, and Canadian ads show Imp-MPG, and people get confused why a Canadian Civic has better "MPG".

      -Baking / cooking instructions use cups/tsp, degrees F, etc

      -Stores advertise produce and meat with prices "per pound" even if the final tag has mass in kg and a kg unit price.

      When I'm in the USA I can do a reasonable job of running local and understanding MPH, degrees F, etc.

      These days I see more and more old highway signs where the old imperial distances / speed limits are starting to bleed through. Explains why there's signs advertising an exit in 1.2km and 600m.

    56. Re:Just too far out by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      True, but there may be one big change that is fairly revolutionary and it was probably related to something that is either not very important now, or was created already, but considered a failure for some reason that might well be fixed by better materials or technology.

      For instance, I think they are really starting to work out brain-electronic interface. In 15 years, that might be a lot more common in a basic, but more general form.

      And if they can get displays on glasses that don't look too dorky (or even contacts) with eye tracking, then you could probably have a very, very small smartphone based on an earpiece that would have a huge apparent screen area without having to take up a lot of space.

    57. Re:Just too far out by mark-t · · Score: 1

      No... not always. And there's a also a distinct trend towards thinking in metric that is a function of age.

      My kids right now think in metric for almost everything. They have no intuitive notion of imperial distances such as yards or miles. They know the terms, but can't relate to them directly because they aren't regularly exposed to them. And for what it's worth, they talk about height in centimeters, not feet and inches (which my generation still does all the time). About the only time imperial ever comes up in conversation with them is when they are talking about weight, although they are comfortable with kilograms, it's usually not the unit that they seem to prefer to use in that context. However,I expect that my grandchildren (one of whom has just started school this fall) will probably end up thinking in kilograms and not pounds at all, and will be entirely of a metric mindset.

    58. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Its adoption was in Canada was actually quite gradual, and if I remember correctly, the overall transition period lasted somewhere around a decade"

      Maybe the official transition period lasted a decade but the real transition has been going on for 40 years and will probably take another 40. A lot of people still convert their gas consumption to miles per imperial gallon. A lot of industrial fasteners, tools and measurements are in Imperial or US units and may not change until the US changes.

    59. Re:Just too far out by 10101001+10101001 · · Score: 1

      That's because Slashdot is a write only medium. Well, okay, it's not *strictly* a write only medium. Some people actually read the comments they're replying to, even fewer read the summary, and virtually no one reads the article. Of course to really seal the deal, everything added to Slashdot should be encrypted with a OTP from /dev/random. But, then, that might make Slashdot *more* interesting.

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    60. Re:Just too far out by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      No, piracy was, at the very least, well into adolescence.

      Not sure when the "infancy" was, but it was way further back than Napster. Requesting the Sysop to put a disc online so you could grab copies of Norton Utilities and Turbo Pascal? Nah, still too advanced. Swapping Apple II games on 5 1/4 floppy, and then bypassing the copy protection with "Locksmith"? Nah, still too advanced.

      Hell, Bill Gates used to throw hissy fits back in the day about copies of Microsoft Basic being traded around on paper tape without licensing fees being paid.

      Napster was nowhere NEAR the infancy of digital piracy.

      Digital Piracy... didn't that start with the folks from Bletchley Park pirating something from the Germans?

    61. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No way this is ever going to happen. The US convert to metric? Come on.

      If Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H) and Iceland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-dagurinn) could change which side of the road they drove on, then the US should be able to handle converting to metric.

    62. Re:Just too far out by bonehead · · Score: 1

      And if they can get displays on glasses that don't look too dorky (or even contacts)

      Here's a more likely scenario:

      In 15 years 3D television sets will be ubiquitous, with 3D simply being a standard feature on all TVs made. However, there will STILL be nobody watching 3D content because the glasses will still be big, clunky, uncomfortable, and dorky looking.

    63. Re:Just too far out by Audguy · · Score: 1

      Where the hell do you live that still has pay phones? I had to go to the complete opposite corner of the US to see one. (I live in Florida)

    64. Re:Just too far out by mark-t · · Score: 1

      You're probably correct, actually. As the generation that used it most dies off, imperial usage will doubtless only continue to diminish.

      My main point, however, is that although the transition was gradual, the most painful part of the transition actually passed quite quickly (and it wasn't even *that* painful). There were really only a handful of (relatively isolated) communities that had any noteworthy difficulty in converting to metric, but these incidents did not cause any sort of national upheaval or confusion that rocked the nation, as some Americans seem to think would happen to their country if they ever tried to convert. (I'm uncertain how to interpret such a self-evaluation in light of the fact that a nation such as Canada, which to my understanding has a larger cultural similarity to the USA than any other nation on the globe, has successfully made the switchover without such national crisis, since the most obvious conclusions don't reflect overly positively them).

    65. Re:Just too far out by grantspassalan · · Score: 1

      In the future, most people will be information workers. Why does anybody who deals with nonphysical objects still need to commute to work? The guy has gigabit fiber in his house. Why does she need to get into a car in order to work with computers at his job? Could he not just have any number of futuristic computers at home where he could work? Moving data to people is much more efficient and cost and energy. He wouldn't even have to take a shower, because who cares if he stinks a little unless he cannot stand his own smell.

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    66. Re:Just too far out by bonehead · · Score: 1

      most people will be information workers.

      I hear this all the time, but it's bullshit. The percentage will increase, but there will still be plenty of hands on work that needs to be done. Growing food is a hands on job. Manufacturing furniture is a hands on job. Slaughtering food animals is a hands on job. The list goes on and on. You can't telecommute for any of that.

      Automation may reduce the number of people needed for those tasks, but those displaced workers will not simply go get a job as an information worker, because advances in technology will reduce the number of humans needed for those tasks, also.

      Result, horrific unemployment.

      Why does anybody who deals with nonphysical objects still need to commute to work?

      Because managers don't judge your performance by the quality and timeliness of your work, they judge it by how many hours a day they see you sitting at your desk. Technology won't fix idiocy. Ever.

    67. Re:Just too far out by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      Metric is for people who are too bad at math to mentally convert from different base systems.

      You mean like NASA scientists, right?

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    68. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i saw it at least 10 years ago (when i was a high school student and bought a pocket pc with birthday money).

    69. Re:Just too far out by heefeneet · · Score: 1

      If America converts to metric 13 years from now - well, I'm not sure I would want to live in such a world.

      Hands up all Americans who hate metric but own a 9mm handgun.

    70. Re:Just too far out by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Spoiler alert: the apocalypse was caused by alien intelligence that took over TV and turned everyone watching into brain dead zombies. The only ones that survived were those douches who go around telling everyone about how nice it is to not own a TV.

      What about those who don't need a TV because they're just better people? OTOH, do the zombie signals work over torrented shows?

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      Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
    71. Re:Just too far out by rioki · · Score: 1

      What is so bad about the metric system?

    72. Re:Just too far out by rioki · · Score: 1

      I travel relatively often from Europe to the US and back. The funny thing is that I feel at home in both systems. I know 100F is hot in Texas and 40C in hot in Germany; but if you ask me how much 100F is in C, i need to get a calculator. You get used to it quite quickly. The same is with different currencies. When they introduced the Euro they where able to raise the prices of some products because people lacked a reference. Would people have done the conversion, they would have noticed the price hike, but people got used to the Euro and worked only in that frame of reference.

    73. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      resulting in 10,000,000 million people unfriending him

      HA! now he can't use em either! POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

    74. Re:Just too far out by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      My kids right now think in metric for almost everything.

      Where do you live? Not in the states....?

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    75. Re:Just too far out by mark-t · · Score: 1

      No, I do not. I live in Canada... about a 30 minute drive from the USA border.

    76. Re:Just too far out by readin · · Score: 1

      Too much reliance on a decimal point that is easily mistaken for a fleck of dirt.
      Then tendency to use decimals where fractions work better.
      Long names that sound too much alike (try shouting "10 centimeters!" vs "10 inches!" in a crowded work environment. Not only do you have to keep your voice elevated longer for the metric measurements, the listener is far likely to have trouble distinguishing "centimeters" from "millimeters" than "inches" from "feet". This applies even across different measurements: Did he say "5 liters" or "5 meters"?
      Imperial units have useful rules of thumb - an inch is about the width of a man's thumb. A foot is pretty close to the length of my foot. A teaspoon is about the size of a teaspoon. A tablespoon is...

      --
      I often don't like the choices people make, but I like the fact that people make choices. That's why I'm a conservative.
    77. Re:Just too far out by readin · · Score: 2

      If America converts to metric 13 years from now - well, I'm not sure I would want to live in such a world.

      Hands up all Americans who hate metric but own a 9mm handgun.

      Hands up all Frenchmen who hate imperial units but have feet and use teaspoons.

      --
      I often don't like the choices people make, but I like the fact that people make choices. That's why I'm a conservative.
    78. Re:Just too far out by DinDaddy · · Score: 1

      It almost makes me miss the days of the test pattern, when they would at least have the decency to turn off the transmitter when they had nothing of value to transmit,

      If the transmitter was turned off, where was the test pattern coming from?

    79. Re:Just too far out by sir-gold · · Score: 1

      They ran a test pattern right before turning off the transmitter. it was a figure of speech.

    80. Re:Just too far out by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Where do you think "Don't copy that floppy" came from?

      People sharing bad porn?

    81. Re:Just too far out by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Worldwide standards improve the lives of everyone. Why is the Internet good? Because everyone's Internet is the same (mostly). It would suck if every country had unconnected Internets, with 200+ Internets around the world that were incompatible. That sounds absurd, but we do that with electrical specs, and have multiple fastener heads, measuring units, and such.

      If everything was under one and only one standard, and "standard" acceptance invalidates all patents and copyrights limiting its use, then we'd have better products for lower cost and greater availability.

    82. Re:Just too far out by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      we wouldn't be unintentionally slamming multimillion / billion dollar space research stuff into planets due to a piss poor metric > imperial conversions after working with other countries on the machinery.

      NASA is officially 100% metric. The problem was a US contractor for a US company provided work in imperial, when nearly everyone in science uses metric exclusively.

      The stuff-up was on the order of hiring someone to build you a wood deck and they build it in untreated wood that rots and warps. Anyone building a deck would use treated wood, and to specify that is silly and pedantic. But you should specify it anyway, as there are people who would take advantage of the omission to do whatever they want, rather than follow industry standards and client requirements.

    83. Re:Just too far out by kazekirifx · · Score: 1

      I moved from the U.S. to a country that uses metric ten years ago, and now I can barely estimate how much anything is in imperial anymore. My mind has completely switched to metric. If I can do it, so can a whole country of people.

    84. Re:Just too far out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But of course the real point is that they (your parents) still think in degrees Fahrenheit, and feet and pounds and quarts. They always will. You because you were indoctrin....eh taught, metric from the age of seven naturally use the system.
      Were the U.S. to convert to start the conversion to metric tomorrow it will be seventy years before the last person to think in ft-lbs-F units dies and most of the populous thinks in metric.

    85. Re:Just too far out by davewoods · · Score: 1

      That was the most perfect touche ever.

  4. Rather... by war4peace · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You wake up suddenly because looters are again banging at your reinforced door, looking for food and something to kill (or both). You shoot your through the door slits to make them go away, then prepare to take off and scavenge neighboring ruins for food.

    And so on, and so forth.

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    ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
    1. Re:Rather... by na1led · · Score: 2

      The way things are looking, it will probably be Dystopia instead of Utopia, 15 years from now.

      --
      -- By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.
    2. Re:Rather... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sadly if the current political systems manage to hold onto power long enough this is exactly what we are more likely to see

    3. Re:Rather... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This seems much more realistic but not really applicable for me. I would rather set a trap for the looters and eat them.

    4. Re:Rather... by verifine · · Score: 1

      Makes me wonder if the original poster has a control thing going. This future life is far more controlled than controlling. Can you say "nanny government," "nanny society"?

    5. Re:Rather... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must live in Detroit...

    6. Re:Rather... by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      At least that is better than staying again in the shelf inside a box labeled Soylent green.

    7. Re:Rather... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'You shoot your...' what, 'load'?

    8. Re:Rather... by timster · · Score: 2

      Only to those who lack a sense of history. People always think the worst is coming.

      --
      I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.
    9. Re:Rather... by icebraining · · Score: 1

      That's the proles' lives. OP is describing the life of the Inner Party members.

    10. Re:Rather... by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 1

      Well, at least someone's being realistic.

      As for the article, why is this twerp going to work in a car at all? Why is he even getting out of bed? After he gets his bagel and coffee, he can do all his work at home.

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    11. Re:Rather... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean it will probably be an autopia? everywhere you drive in your car will have a metal rail running down the middle of it and you're not allowed to exceed 12.7 mph even if you floor the only pedal located inside the car. you grip the massively padded steering wheel, and remember a time when your car had a seatbelt for each seat rather than just the one going across the entire bench. you vaguely recall driving a car like this once before, as a small child, one just as focused on safety and designed for restricting your freedom as this one, it was at a place filled with families, many with children who were either screaming and laughing or screaming and crying, or occasionally both at the same time. yes, you recall now, it was a place filled with weird characters ruled over by an oppressive regime, hell bent for leather on extracting from the pockets of the people every bit of money they could. It was variously called Disneyland, and the "Happiest Place On Earth"(tm). You don't remember it being THAT happy, and now that you think about it, it occurs to you that this safety-obsessed, freedom-restricting totalitarian place, that's run by assholes who are out to steal what's yours, isn't really a particularly pleasant place either, and long to go back to a time and place when you didn't have some giant prick in a costume telling you how much fucking water you could use to shower with in the morning, and you remember the old axiom about how all advancement inspired to make life easier had been co-opted by the rich for the purposes of reinforcing and increasing the disparity between themselves and everyone else. computers for example were supposed to make everyone's lives easier, as were robots and instead both were used to take people's jobs and spy on them, or rain death on them from above. No, you realize, something, somewhere along the line, has gone horribly, terribly fucking wrong.

    12. Re:Rather... by retchdog · · Score: 1

      well, the worst often does come, just in limited quantities and usually to people much poorer than the predictors.

      --
      "They were pure niggers." – Noam Chomsky
    13. Re:Rather... by readin · · Score: 1

      And quite often they're right.

      From what I've seen people usually ignore evidence that the worst is coming. People assume good things will continue as they have been in their limited lifetime.

      --
      I often don't like the choices people make, but I like the fact that people make choices. That's why I'm a conservative.
    14. Re:Rather... by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      I'm old enough to remember when the predicted dytopia in 15 years (or less) in 1972. And 1979. And 1984. And 1987. And 1991. And... well, you get the picture.

    15. Re:Rather... by war4peace · · Score: 2

      Just because you haven't been the subject of a war yourself, it doesn't mean your (pretty comfy) life (I assume) is shared by the entire world. Quite the other way around, I'd venture to say. The world is changing at an unprecedented pace. In some developed countries there's this false feeling of safety, because there are still resources to access and the quality of life is good and seems unchangeable.
      Facilitated travel heightens the risk of an epidemic. It took 15 years for the black plague of 14th century to spread from Asia to Europe. Were it to happen now, that time would be reduced to a couple weeks at most.
      Resource interdependence makes it a lot more difficult for communities and/or countries to resist in case the economy shakes or is brought down for whatever reason. Look at current crisis, which started in 2008 and affected pretty much the whole world in a matter of months. Imagine what a week-long country-wide power outage would do.

      Anyway, I don't think you can reliably set a 15-year trendline now. If you'd go back to 2007 and ask people whether a financial crysis is imminent, they would laugh in your face. And all that happened in a 5-year span.

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      ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
    16. Re:Rather... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      The tides come in, the tides go out. Everything changes, yet nothing changes. Like the last two centuries, there will be things about he futire that are better, and things that are worse. It will neither be utopia nor dystopia.

    17. Re:Rather... by na1led · · Score: 1

      Not this time. We now have 8 Billion People, something this planet has never seen. Global Warming, again, something this planet has not seen in a long time. The Earth can only sustain us at our current rate for so long, before mass extinction takes place.

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      -- By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.
    18. Re:Rather... by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      If you'd go back to 2007 and ask people whether a financial crysis is imminent, they would laugh in your face. And all that happened in a 5-year span.

      Depends on the people I guess... in 2007 around here, we were predicting financial issues in the US by 2009. It smelled too much like the dot-com bubble, but with housing and banking.

      Next financial crisis? Probably sometime around 2019, and involving the stock market, futures and international currency trading....

    19. Re:Rather... by fearofcarpet · · Score: 1

      You wake up suddenly because looters are again banging at your reinforced door, looking for food and something to kill (or both). You shoot your through the door slits to make them go away, then prepare to take off and scavenge neighboring ruins for food.

      And so on, and so forth.

      Unless you're fortunate enough to work at your local billionaire's fortified city-state mansion. Sure, you get paid with room and board, but who needs money when payroll taxes are 95%?

      --
      Actually, I wrote my thesis on life experience.
    20. Re:Rather... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      There's going to be no such thing as payroll taxes. We'll all use Nuka Cola caps.

      --
      ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
    21. Re:Rather... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      This one ain't over yet. Which "next" one? :)

      --
      ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
    22. Re:Rather... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Seven billion, and mass extinctions are already started. Tides go in and out, and that includes ice ages and so forth. And sometimes there's a tsunami.

    23. Re:Rather... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      And they are usually right, even if off on the time by a little.

    24. Re:Rather... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      And the dystopia has come, even if not quite as bad or ubiquitous as predicted. Is the government not tracking everyone (even if only in recordings, not yet real-time)? Do you have more or less personal freedom than 15 years ago?

    25. Re:Rather... by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      You don't really have a clue as to what dystopia means do you?

    26. Re:Rather... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Dystopia doesn't have to mean post-apocolyptic, just our conservative fascist nanny state meets many of the definitions. We don't need 100% poverty and massive food shortages, even movies such as Gattica could be considered dystopian.

  5. no alrm clocks for me by peter303 · · Score: 2

    Now nor when I am retired in 15 years

    1. Re:no alrm clocks for me by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      Now nor when I am retired in 15 years

      That's what you think now!

    2. Re:no alrm clocks for me by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 2

      ALI G: "Yo, check it; it is 8 in the morning - which is the earliest I've ever been up."

  6. CID? Seriously? by valadaar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No card. The damn things will simply know what you look like.

    1. Re:CID? Seriously? by Chatsubo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well apparently your shower knows who you are, your clock radio knows if you're awake, a security gate knows what your neural pathways react like at a distance..... But your computer has no idea and needs a card. And worse, your house locks by RFID!

      Can't I just have one authentication device?

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    2. Re:CID? Seriously? by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Can't I just have one authentication device?

      No because patents.

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      ECHELON is a government program to find words like bomb, jihad, plutonium, assassinate, and anarchy.
    3. Re:CID? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would be nice if it was your brain. Could happen in 21XX.

    4. Re:CID? Seriously? by shdowhawk · · Score: 1

      HAVE? This is the future... Can't i just BE my own authentication device?

    5. Re:CID? Seriously? by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      Well apparently your shower knows who you are, your clock radio knows if you're awake, a security gate knows what your neural pathways react like at a distance..... But your computer has no idea and needs a card. And worse, your house locks by RFID!

      Can't I just have one authentication device?

      My name is my password. What could go wrong?

  7. 7:30am? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool, I get to sleep in! I'm all into the future painted by Soulkill's canvas!

  8. by his noodly limbs NO by RichMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I will not work in advertising.

    1. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by daem0n1x · · Score: 1

      There won't be any advertising, or brands. People will consume only white-label products and be perfectly happy about it.

    2. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've heard of bleak, post-apocalyptic versions of the future, but one where everyone works in advertising is just too scary to envision!

      --
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    3. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by alexo · · Score: 1

      I will not work in advertising.

      When all manufacturing is outsourced to China, IT to India, services to (illegal?) foreign workers barely making subsistence wage, etc., exactly what job options do you think will be available?

    4. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2

      I'd say my military contracting gig is pretty secure. You have to be born in the country, go through a background check, then a second background check, and all sorts of other goodies.

      It's kind of a sticking point to not have FNs inspecting warships.

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      ECHELON is a government program to find words like bomb, jihad, plutonium, assassinate, and anarchy.
    5. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by readin · · Score: 1

      There won't be any advertising, or brands. People will consume only white-label products and be perfectly happy about it.

      Obama may not be perfect, but do really think he won't step down when his 8 years are over?

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      I often don't like the choices people make, but I like the fact that people make choices. That's why I'm a conservative.
    6. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone consider if that if this was written from soulskill's perspective, he thinks of himself as being in advertising (rather than being an editor)?

    7. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 2

      As it happens I'm reading the The Space Merchants at the moment, which posits a future where advertising is ubiquitous. It was written in the 50s. Talk about prescient. The characters seem exceedingly cynical, then you realize they're just oblivious when they say the things like "the pamphlets were chock full of sound reasoning, a notion we ad men dispensed with ages ago."

    8. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by alexo · · Score: 2

      What is the military's contribution to the GDP?

    9. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by Flamerule · · Score: 1

      By definition, 4.7% (in 2011). A GDP graph indicates that's out of $15 trillion.

    10. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by alexo · · Score: 1

      By definition, 4.7% (in 2011). A GDP graph indicates that's out of $15 trillion.

      I think that's expenditure, not contribution.

    11. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please don't get everyones hopes up like that :(

    12. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by BatGnat · · Score: 1

      I'll eat Soylent Green.

    13. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      Well first it allows you to have a country, which is nice for your GDP.

      Second, there are thousands of contractors working on those ships. We're buying TVs, cars, gas, clothes, tools, food, etc. The refit for one ship here will boost the local GDP by...just under 5%, with another 2.5% across the country.

      Third, all that procurement means that the steel mills, cable companies, transit manufacturers, etc, are going to hire more people, who in turn will be buying TVs, cars, gas, clothes, tools, food, etc.

      --

      ---
      ECHELON is a government program to find words like bomb, jihad, plutonium, assassinate, and anarchy.
    14. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh, do you actually think that the final state given enough time is that americans will work with advertising and that China will forever do manufacturing? For what money will the americans buy the Chinese goods?

      What's happening right now is that the standard of living across the world is evening out, thanks to communication and transportation that wasn't available 50 years ago.

    15. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by alexo · · Score: 1

      Read back several messages in this thread, Beardo.
      My point is that the the pool of available jobs is shrinking. All those companies that you mention will be hiring more people, but those people will not necessarily be from your country. Yes, some things cannot be farmed out, and you may be lucky enough to have a secure position, but what about the rest of the work force? There are just so many jobs in the military.

      It looks to me that the US is heading toward an economy where "intellectual property" and advertisement play an ever increasing part so, eventually, people will have to work in those fields.

    16. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by alexo · · Score: 1

      There's still Africa.

    17. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -12 000 000 000 000

    18. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By blowing up bridges and buildings, we can give contractors cost+ contracts to extort money and occasionally fix them!

      In more seriousness, the military produces a LOT of technology. Internet, space flight (derived from ballistic missiles), GPS, Radar, communications and weather satellites, large scale aerial mapping, a rather significant number of medical advances, the list goes on and on with things originally produced for military use that are having a significant effect on civilian commerce now.

    19. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      Oh, I see what you're getting at.

      If the military provides 5% of the GDP, then only 5% of the jobs are secure by that means.

      Okay, your point is taken.

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    20. Re:by his noodly limbs NO by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      The contracting gigs, in a practical sense, also require you served in the military. Why? Because all the military gigs I looked at would not consider you if you did not already have clearance. I've been told since that is illegal, but illegal or not, it is standard practice. The job position requires clearance, so they require previous clearance of all applicants. And I didn't think you needed to be born in the US for clearance. I knew a number of foreign born military people that had jobs that sounded like ones I knew did need clearance. I know that many other countries don't require natural born-ness to get clearance.

  9. What kind of madness is this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll be using GNU/Linux and thankful that they finally got a working wireless driver for my 15-year-old wifi card.

    1. Re:What kind of madness is this? by TWX · · Score: 1

      I'm still waiting for 802.11a drivers...

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  10. 15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And /. still won't support unicode...

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    2. Re:15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fact.

      15 years ago, you could send emails, and receive it, but most of the communications were done by letters or FAX.
      15 years ago, there were not any kind of social network, even the idea.
      15 years ago, There were mobiles, but you had to wait by 8PM to call your mother because she is coming to home
      15 years ago, your kids ride the bikes when they return from school and played outside
      15 years ago, you were going to the cinema on mondays and comment the movie with your friends
      15 years ago, you ask for an IT repair if your computer just stops working

      Now, you send emails everyday, for everywhere.
      Now, every body around you knows what you're doing or thinking due to social networks
      Now, You're 5 minutes late to work because you've receiven a SMS with your bill to be paid, and your boss is calling you telling you won't receive the day
      Now, your kids stay all day with the computer and talk with "friends" by IM and facebook
      Now, you download movies and watch it on you computer, alone and without popcorns
      Now, you buy a new smartphone when your just stops working.

      15 years from now, email still is the main way to communicate
      15 years from now, you're being watched by 2 policeman, your boss and 2 friends, while you're walking and dating with the only girlfriend you've ever have
      15 years from now, your smartphone (or so) connects to your office computer and SIP account, and you're working while your going to there, because you're boss sent you a schedulled email at 6AM "reminding" you for the report for 9AM
      15 years from now, you have no kids, and it doesn't even seams to goes this way because you don't have enought money
      15 years from now, There is no art, or it is very expencive and you cannot download it. All your traffic is being inspected.
      15 years from now, There are machines to make stuff, you can download it and the machines does it by itself, but you cannot afford one.

      15 years from now, There is a world cold war, with 4 groups, Europe, US, middle-east, and China, Japan just "sinked".
      15 years from now, Europe Union slits itself, and every country is individual, Euro just gone 10 years ago.

    3. Re:15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost nothing technology-wise is like it was in 1997. If you look at your computer, smartphone, tablet, the web, and you think it's just like it was in the days of Windows 95 and IE 3, you have a really, really short memory.

      Re-watch that old Angelina Jolie movie from the mid-90s called Hackers if you want a refresher about what the dialup & floppy disk era was like.

    4. Re:15 years from now... by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      15 years ago, I had dialup, I loved my VCR, and I knew 2 people who had cellphones (and I didn't).

      Now, I have broadband, but looking forward to Google Fiber. What's a VCR? And I know 2 people, well, maybe just one, who DOESN'T have a cellphone, and most have smartphones.

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    5. Re:15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 1997, there was no:

      Google
      OS X
      Macbook
      Windows 2000
      Youtube
      Facebook
      iPhone
      Android
      Flash Drive
      HDTV
      Netflix
      Redbox
      Blu-Ray
      Wii
      XBox
      iPod
      SD Card
      Verizon
      iMac
      Home Broadband
      Consumer GPS ...and on and on and on...

      If you think 2012 looks just like 1997, you have a really, really short memory.

    6. Re:15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      15 years ago, there were not any kind of social network, even the idea.

      Wait, what? There was no successful universal social network, but online social communities date back to the 1980s. Precursors to the popular social media sites of the last decade date back at least to the mid-to-late 1990s. The idea of a social network was nothing novel, it was just the specific implementations and the proliferation of supporting technology that made the concept popular and ubiquitous. Just how well do you remember the 1990s?

    7. Re:15 years from now... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      15 years ago, you could send emails, and receive it, but most of the communications were done by letters or FAX.

      15 years ago, I binned my old fax machine since most of my communications were done via email or IM.

      15 years ago, there were not any kind of social network, even the idea.

      15 years ago I was active on a number of IRC channels, that were mostly populated by people that I knew from BBSes from years and years before *that*

      15 years ago, There were mobiles, but you had to wait by 8PM to call your mother because she is coming to home

      15 years ago, I ditched my landline phone because it was more expensive than my GSM mobile - a Nokia 7110.

      15 years ago, your kids ride the bikes when they return from school and played outside

      I don't have children, so I can't comment. Most of my friend's children walk or cycle to school, and get to play outside.

      15 years ago, you were going to the cinema on mondays and comment the movie with your friends

      I get a nice deal from my phone provider, so these days I tend to go on Wednesdays.

      15 years ago, you ask for an IT repair if your computer just stops working

      15 years ago, if my computer stopped working I would plug in the soldering iron. These days, I plug in the hot air rework station.

      Nothing has changed, nothing is going to change.

    8. Re:15 years from now... by turp182 · · Score: 1

      Consider this scenario from 1990 to 2005. You probably wouldn't have had a phone or e-mail at the beginning of that period. Or internet.

      Considering the future is interesting, all ideas are welcome (except flying cars, he didn't mention the massive worldwide oil shortages either...).

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    9. Re:15 years from now... by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      £ - oooh, yes, it does now.

    10. Re:15 years from now... by Iskender · · Score: 1

      Are you American? Back here in Europe it would be foolish to think nothing is going to change. Ever since the late 80s things have been changing constantly, and not even Western Europe has avoided this.

      In Estonia they went from a Soviet bureaucracy to electronic voting in 15 years! Things will change, broaden your horizons.

    11. Re:15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 1997, there WAS:

      Altavista (search engine)
      Various unix distributions that were usable on desktops (OS X)
      Laptops (macbooks)
      Windows 95 (Win2k)
      Television (youtube)
      Email, Instant Messaging, and web pages (Facebook)
      Phones, even very good mobile ones (iPhone, Android)
      Hard Drives (Flash Drives)
      Digital cable & DVD rentals (HDTV, Netflix, Redbox, Blu-Ray)
      Gaming systems (Wii, XBox)
      Walkmen (iPod)
      Desktop computers (iMac)
      Dialup Internet (Home Broadband)
      Maps (Consumer GPS)

      We don't do much very differently today than we did in 1997 - we've accelerated some of it, we've computerized some of it, and we've made it more accessible to more people... but none of these technologies were fundamental revolutions that never existed before. They were just new ways of doing things people have done for a long time.

      The Industrial "Revolution" is generally held to have taken place over 100 years (mid 1700's-mid 1800's). Most "revolutions" in society will be similar, and we are already living in the computing "revolution."

      Here's the thing: You don't rebuild and rewire New York City - or even Poughkeepsie - into some sort of digital fantasy land in just 15 years. You'll be that much less likely to do the same to an entire country, or continent, or world. In 50, or 100 years? Yeah, things will probably look VERY different. In 15? There'll be lots of incremental improvements and changes to the way we do things today, just like the period from 1997 to 2012 - things have improved in some areas, degraded in others, but if you took someone from 1997 and dropped them down in the middle of 2012, they wouldn't see much that would totally baffle them, probably just a lot of things that they'd say, "oh wow, that's so much faster or easier than it used to be!"

      Medicine will be a little better. Computers will be a little better. Vehicles will be a little more efficient, and perhaps increasingly autonomous. But you're not going to have magical flying robot butlers that will ferry you to and from work on Rigel VII at faster-than-light speeds.

    12. Re:15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Estonia they went from a Soviet bureaucracy to electronic voting in 15 years! Things will change, broaden your horizons.

      Well played. I chuckled a little.

    13. Re:15 years from now... by mlts · · Score: 1

      We did have flash drives back in '97. I had a full size PCMCIA card made by SunDisk (not SanDisk) that I used as additional storage with my laptop. This was before CF cards (then SD) cards became the standard for cameras.

      Some things have changed. Instead of E-mail lists and mutt, we have Facebook.

      I would say the biggest change would be MP3 players. We had tablets (GriDpads) and other stuff, but MP3 players really didn't get started until after the Rio versus RIAA fight, then definitely when Apple entered the market.

    14. Re:15 years from now... by mttlg · · Score: 1

      It's not as different as you seem to think (though I would call it the days of MacOS 8 and Netscape 3.04). Fundamentally, the biggest changes are in terms of content and connectivity. By the late 90s, I was using routers to share dial-up connections over a network, so the only changes there are the hardware/software for the router, network speed, and provider of the line. Floppy disks were largely on their way out by 1997, with various interim solutions failing to take hold and CD-Rs gaining popularity (plus, there were networks); USB's rise was right around the corner. If anything, web browsers were faster back then because sites weren't so content-heavy and loaded with scripts. People had Geocities web pages instead of Facebook pages and sent each other stupid forwarded e-mail messages instead of stupid cat GIFs posted on Facebook. People infected their computers with malware from floppy disks used in lab computers and MacUser shareware CDs instead of malware from web sites and e-mail. The user sure hasn't changed much in 15 years.

      If you think 1997 was so much different from 2012, you're the one with the short memory. Since the late 1990s, it has been rare to find a home, office, or dorm room without a computer. In 1995, at a tech school, only two other people on my floor of 40+ students had their own computer. Most people checked their e-mail on a dumb terminal in the lounge. By two years later, almost everyone had their own computer and the dumb terminals had all been scrapped.

      Back up two more years to 1993 and even computers in homes were somewhat uncommon. Many students still wrote papers on typewriters (though they had some fancy electronic features). Home network connectivity was largely limited to AOL, CompuServe, or Prodigy, plus a few local BBSs that were largely abandoned by that point. If you had a pager (not even a cell phone, a pager!), people assumed that you were either a doctor or a drug dealer.

      Let's go all the way back to 1982, 15 years before that far-off world of 1997. Home computing was in its infancy and was limited to only the most serious hobbyists. Most phones still used rotary dials. A cell phone was something rich people had in their cars, like the guy on the show Vega$. Schools made copies with mimeograph or ditto machines and everything was covered with purple ink. The Apple IIe that was practically standard in schools for the better part of a decade had not yet been released. The only "cable" television most people had was from the cable running up to the antenna on the roof. People shopped at home out of paper catalogs and called or mailed in their orders. Department store checkout registers did not commonly have bar code scanners. If you paid with a credit card (more likely a store card), you would be asked if you wanted your carbons.

      30 years later, a cell phone in your pocket can replicate pretty much everything in that last paragraph. But even 15 years ago, the infrastructure was in place to support everything that you can do today. Computers and networks got faster, operating systems and browsers got more features, and life began to take shape around computing devices.

      So basically:
      2012: "Oh boy, a 3TB hard drive! I need to update my Facebook status and torrent some HD movies."
      1997: "Oh boy, a 4GB hard drive! I need to tell everyone on AIM and download some MP3s."
      1982: "Oh boy, a second floppy drive! I need to call the one other guy I know who has a computer to make copies of Pac-Man and Space Invaders."

    15. Re:15 years from now... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      But does it already support Cents?
      Let's try: --><--
      Well, obviously not.

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    16. Re:15 years from now... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      I live in a pretty stable European country. The basic technology and political landscape hasn't changed significantly for decades.

      You guys had quite a time of it in the early 90s to early 2000s, though.

    17. Re:15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm from Portugal ...

      My country, 15 years ago, 1997/1998 was preparing itself for Expo 98, which had bring much money, popularity. FMI invested in Portugal and we were given a lot of money (we are actualy paing for it now)... 15 years ago, Portugal was other country. Technology and society changed a lot.

    18. Re:15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you're right.

      I used IRC, and I spent hours in it. BBSs are not in my history.

      The question in here is not if it existed or not. In fact the only thing I said didn't exist was social networks. They existed, for example ICQ, but today we talk about million users on facebook, million users on Google+ ... and so on.

      I'm from Portugal, we are one of the most techno-dependent people, we have 1,5 phones per person, more than 70% have highspeed internet, and the most advanced tripple-play system in europe. And 15 years ago, most people had internet, 56k, maybe ADSL 128kbps or 512kbps, not much. Today we talk about 200Mbps, 400Mbps by MEO (3play operator) for the next year (maybe). FOR HOME USAGE.
      Personaly I have a 100Mbps fiber 3play system.

      So, As Iskender says (psot #41610897) we "would be foolished to think nothing is going to change" because the world changed a lot last 20,15,10 years.
      10 years ago, I have my first MP3 player, a 128Mb, and months before my first pen 128Mb as well. Today I cannot find a pen with less than 8GB, and I cannot find a MP3 player, because now they play everything, even games... I just want to play music.... oh, how I miss my old Walkman.

      All the technology we use today, existed 20 years from now (or most of it), but the question in here is if it existed or not, but HOW USED was it and for HOW MANY people.

      Mortain

    19. Re:15 years from now... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      But it's not really a big functional change, or a big context shift. I agree that cheap dense memory has made a lot of cool stuff possible - a 1M Sony PSX memory card is the same size as a 16G iPod Nano - but the sort of technology we have hasn't changed for more than 30 years.

      Mobile phones have got smaller, and had clever little computers grafted on. They've become cheaper, but the basic principle hasn't changed since the earliest trunked radio systems.

      Computers are faster and have typically got more RAM than PCs had hard disk 20 years ago - but that's it. It's a box, with some electronics in, and now it's a bit faster and smaller. I sit with a QWERTY keyboard, a mouse, and a monitor. Sometimes I plug headphones in to the jack on the front. I did all this 20 years ago, too.

      What's actually *new*?

    20. Re:15 years from now... by Iskender · · Score: 1

      I live in a pretty stable European country. The basic technology and political landscape hasn't changed significantly for decades.

      I still think you're just so used to it that you don't notice.

      Decades ago:
      -Petrol was leaded.
      -Acid rain was common.
      -Asbestos was commonly used.
      -You went to the bank if you wanted to pay something, or used cheques.
      -Only the rich, or no-one had mobile phones.
      -There was no www, and no social networks. People wrote letters.
      -Overseas phonecalls often involved queueing.
      -Air travel was at a minimum slightly glamorous.
      -The EU was several treaties younger and much smaller, and required unanimity in decisions.
      -There was no euro.
      -Colour prints were still expensive.
      -You couldn't really publish things without the help of a large company.
      -Homosexuality was commonly taboo. Today registration or even marriage is common.
      -The left was still a vital political force in the vast majority of countries back then, and it actually differed from the right.

      Basically, the changes in decades past dwarf the changes portrayed by Soulskill's text. It's possible that you define basic technology in some special way - but even then it's not relevant, since you're arguing that the text is unrealistic, and the changes in real life are much greater.

    21. Re:15 years from now... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      I would in fact argue that the social networks that existed in the 1980s were far more social than the ones that we have now. You didn't have 1 million friends on your BBS, but the ones you had were real friends, and being on a BBS and especially running one required that you had to have more than one working brain cell.

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    22. Re:15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look, things just don't pop.
      Airplanes apeared yaers after ballons, after zeplin. Whrite brothers flew 100m, today airplanes fly arround the world... this is evolution
      Telephones started in XiX century or so, the caller asked to a PBX operator to send de call to someone, and today you call anyone for a second or two, leave a message and send SMS if you prefere.
      In XVIII (or so) the vinil was invented (sorry for a possible history mistake) today we play from a flash memory... this is evolution
      The first computer dates from XIX century as a machine to calculate, in 50's "we" used punched strip today we have touchscreens

      Things just don't appear from nothing, they evolute. And it seams to us so natural that we almost say it doesn't happen at all.

      Think of day you had 10 years ago, compare it to what you have today, compare what you have thinked about what you were doing and what you actually think about it today. You evoluted also.

      Think about science, about the study made and how far we have reach, and how much we still will learn ...

      This evolution is beyond your staff, this evolution is done in labs... For example, 1974's Intel's 8080 was done with 3um transistors, 1997's Intel's Pentium II was done with 1um transistors, today we talk 1/30 of this scale, 32nm. Look, in 20 years, they "shrank" the transistor for 1/3, 15 after it, the same transistors are 1/30 smaller. 10 times faster than the same amount of time earlier.

      This is evolution

      Mortain.

    23. Re:15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can see Angelina Jolie's Hackers all the day ... :P but the movie just don't represent it's days, not even today.

      Some days ago I was watching to the music hits in earlier 90's ... Wow ... Just take a lot yourselves :D

      Mortain

    24. Re:15 years from now... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      I don't know if you're having difficulty counting, or something. 15 years ago was *1997*, not 1977.

      Just to pick a few off your list, in 1997 LRP was more common than leaded petrol, and petrol stations were already phasing it out. By 2000, there was almost nowhere you could get LRP and leaded was gone.

      Overseas phone calls haven't required queueing (at least, in reasonably advanced countries) for something like 30 years, not 15.

      Back in 1997, pretty nearly everyone I knew had a mobile phone, although GSM coverage was still spotty in very remote parts and analogue was only just dying out.

    25. Re:15 years from now... by Iskender · · Score: 1

      I don't know if you're having difficulty counting, or something. 15 years ago was *1997*, not 1977.

      Read your own post again:

      I live in a pretty stable European country. The basic technology and political landscape hasn't changed significantly for decades.

      So 'decades' is what I replied to.

      However, I meant what I said about the rate being greater: in the last 15 years we've gone from mobile phones and WWW being growing technologies to today, where you have to use them if you want to be a fully working citizen.

      Fifteen years ago Angola was in the midst of civil war and people moved to Portugal for work. Portugal was about to join the euro club, and therefore considered to be doing well. Today Portugal has enormous economic problems, and people are actually more often moving to Angola to look for work.

      Today we have driverless cars in some US states, and Facebook sells personal data to advertisers. The euro crisis is far from over. Basically, with the known rate of change it is nowhere near impossible for us to have the things in the text. It's not like we're discussing flying cars and android citizens. The medical technology is -sadly- the only part I'd mark as improbable.

      I do realise we will probably just plain disagree on this. But I hope you can keep your eyes open: if your country is so socially stable, chances are its turn will come next. Also, genuinely disruptive technologies don't get release parties - they'll emerge in niche markets and later suddenly change the world.

    26. Re:15 years from now... by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      15 years ago, I was on DSL, and had my TV hooked up to a HTPC. I had 2 cellphones. Today, I have DSL and my TV is hooked up to a HTPC. I have 1 cellphone (and if my work didn't let me make personal calls on it, I'd have one dual-sim cell).

  11. I read this BS somewhere before.... by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Right! When I was a kid, we had these picture-books about "15 years into the future". That was 25 years ago unfortunately, and zero of the predictions came true. Will be the same with this nonsense here.

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    1. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, you don't have massive airplanes, moving sidewalks and 200 floor buildings in your neighbourhood? Oh wait, neither do I, it's just my medication ... no wonder I'm standing still on the street muttering nonsense to passerbys.

      Oh, and everyone is white in those books too.

    2. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They hired the same picture-books guys to make the predictions, but this time they inverted their predictions before publishing them. Beware.

    3. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...posted from my wafer-thin pocket cray on wireless broadband

    4. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, and everyone is white in those books too.

      You say that as if you think there are any people who aren't white!

    5. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by camperdave · · Score: 1

      What, you don't have massive airplanes, moving sidewalks and 200 floor buildings in your neighbourhood? Oh wait, neither do I, it's just my medication ... no wonder I'm standing still on the street muttering nonsense to passerbys.

      Oh, and everyone is white in those books too.

      We've got the massive airplanes and the moving sidewalks here in Toronto, but no 200 floor buildings yet. The CN Tower is a mere 147 storeys tall.

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    6. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 1

      exactly what I thought, reminds me of those "we'll all be swallowing Atomic Pills" and "flying" cars to work. Seriously, can we maybe get some actual sci-fi authors to weigh in? At least they extrapolate in an entertaining manner, this was like reading a newspaper insert from 1950. - HEX

    7. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, scarily, I am in Toronto as well. I take my meds and stand around on University and Queen. I usually carry a billboard.

      Moving sidewalks? Other than Pearson airport? Massive airplanes. We're talking 800-900 seaters at super-sonic speeds?

      In regards the CN tower, well, changes are that in 15 years will have homeless folks living in the stairwells to the only habitable 6-7 floors there.

    8. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

      The CN Tower is a mere 147 storeys tall.

      I love Canada, but you guys up north spell some words funny! :)

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    9. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by alva_edison · · Score: 1

      Would this be because of the influx of Americans that move there after their preferred candidate loses the upcoming election?

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    10. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by biochozo · · Score: 1

      I remember reading Pop Sci back in the day and it said we'd have a man on Mars by now... 2005 to be exact. That's when I lost all hope to become the first man on Mars because I'd have just graduated high school and wouldn't have nearly enough tome for training...

    11. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ladies Home Journal, December 1900

      What May Happen in the Next Hundred Years
      By John Elfreth Watkins, Jr.

      These prophecies will seem strange, almost impossible. Yet, they have come from the most learned and conservative minds in America. To the wisest and most careful men in our greatest institutions of science and learning I have gone, asking each in his turn to forecast for me what, in his opinion, will have been wrought in his own field of investigation before the dawn of 2001 - a century from now. These opinions I have carefully transcribed.”

      During the Year 2000, we included Mr. Watkins research in our feature articles. We invite you to comment on these predictions, whether they have been realized in some way or how they can never be accomplished! In any event, we know you’ll enjoy these entries.

      Prediction #1: There will probably be from 350,000,000 to 500,000,000 people in America and its possessions by the lapse of another century. Nicaragua will ask for admission to our Union after the completion of the great canal. Mexico will be next. Europe, seeking more territory to the south of us, will cause many of the South and Central American republics to be voted into the Union by their own people.”

      Prediction #2: The American will be taller by from one to two inches. His increase of stature will result from better health, due to vast reforms in medicine, sanitation, food and athletics. He will live fifty years instead of thirty-five as at present – for he will reside in the suburbs. The city house will practically be no more. Building in blocks will be illegal. The trip from suburban home to office will require a few minutes only. A penny will pay the fare.

      Prediction #3: Gymnastics will begin in the nursery, where toys and games will be designed to strengthen the muscles. Exercise will be compulsory in the schools. Every school, college and community will have a complete gymnasium. All cities will have public gymnasiums. A man or woman unable to walk ten miles at a stretch will be regarded as a weakling.

      Prediction #4: There Will Be No Street Cars in Our Large Cities. All hurry traffic will be below or high above ground when brought within city limits. In most cities it will be confined to broad subways or tunnels, well lighted and well ventilated, or to high trestles with “moving-sidewalk” stairways leading to the top. These underground or overhead streets will teem with capacious automobile passenger coaches and freight with cushioned wheels. Subways or trestles will be reserved for express trains. Cities, therefore, will be free from all noises.

      Prediction #5: Trains will run two miles a minute, normally; express trains one hundred and fifty miles an hour. To go from New York to San Francisco will take a day and a night by fast express. There will be cigar-shaped electric locomotives hauling long trains of cars. Cars will, like houses, be artificially cooled. Along the railroads there will be no smoke, no cinders, because coal will neither be carried nor burned. There will be no stops for water. Passengers will travel through hot or dusty country regions with windows down.

      Prediction #6: Automobiles will be cheaper than horses are today. Farmers will own automobile hay-wagons, automobile truck-wagons, plows, harrows and hay-rakes. A one-pound motor in one of these vehicles will do the work of a pair of horses or more. Children will ride in automobile sleighs in winter. Automobiles will have been substituted for every horse vehicle now known. There will be, as already exist today, automobile hearses, automobile police patrols, automobile ambulances, automobile street sweepers. The horse in harness will be as scarce, if, indeed, not even scarcer, then as the yoked ox is today.

      Prediction #7: There will be air-ships, but they will not successfully compete with surface cars and water vessels for passenger or freight traffic. They will be maintained as deadly war-vessels by all military nations. Some will transp

    12. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by SuperMooCow · · Score: 1

      Nah, it's just camperdave who writes like that.

    13. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      The CN Tower is a mere 147 storeys tall.
      Looks like it has maybe half a dozen floors to me, but I've never been there. Given that most buildings of that size have floors that are about 15 feet high, it is about as tall as a 120 story building.

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    14. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. That advantage of the (not so many) good SciFi authors is that they do not try to sell the same tired old nonsense over and over again. Or at least try to put quite a bit of interesting spin on it.

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    15. Re:I read this BS somewhere before.... by gweihir · · Score: 1

      This list is fascinating. What it reveals is really what people wanted and hoped for and hence what their problems actually where.

      Some are also fascinatingly accurate. For example freight is primarily carried by ship today, not plane. On passengers total fail though.

      Others are fascinatingly wrong. For example, a good horse costs still about the same as a good car.

      #23 seems to be mostly true for the US, but in Europe is not nearly accurate.

      #17 is fascinating in that it accurately predicts there will still be poor people. It completely fails on the university prediction, but in significant parts of Europe it is true.

      But all in all, it shows that even smart people (and these predictions obviously came from somebody pretty smart) are not really very predictive.

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  12. How did I get here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If that's me in 15 years, I must have intentionally run over a nun carrying a basket of kittens. Ugh.

  13. Shitty story, bro... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a shitty story. *golf clap*

  14. Really? by Pikoro · · Score: 3, Informative

    How about, in 15 years, you'll have the same dead end job where your managers are getting paid more than you are and you have nothing to show in your life except for some bytes on some company's hard drive and you still get up and perform the same routine you always have?

    We're really at the top of the curve for technological advancement without some kind of major energy breakthrough. If you want to practice your writing skills, do it somewhere else.

    This whole article is tl;dr. Read an Asimov book.

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    1. Re:Really? by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I laugh at the author's assumption that we'll be able to afford this excessive use of technology.

      We use cylinder locks and metal keys because they're cheap and good enough.

      We use alarm clocks with buttons because they're cheap, easily replaced, and good enough.

      We use manually-turned valves to control hot and cold water, again, because they're cheap and good enough.

      In short, almost all of our technology is minimalist, because once a technology is developed into a decent working system, there's not a lot of good in changing it for a more expensive system. I like my manual door locks, as there's a certain amount of skill required to pick one that a skr1pt k1dd13 can't download off of the Internet to use.

      On top of that, can you imagine the cabling required to control all of these fancy gizmos? A lot of what's described can't operate off of wireless, it needs some physical control. Shower valves, for example.

      Plus reliability is always an issue. We have a Clapper to control one of the lights and even it's not perfect, and it's simple.

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    2. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like my manual door locks, as there's a certain amount of skill required to pick one that a skr1pt k1dd13 can't download off of the Internet to use.

      It depends on the lock, but most only require someone jam something in for torsion, then jam something else in and randomly rake the pins. The downside of lockpicking is that it's slow, and even then, there are quicker methods (like bumping).

    3. Re:Really? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      About the only thing that I could see technology creeping into on your list is hot/cold water controls for showers. I'd love to be able to preset shower temperatures for my family. I can have the so-hot-it-almost-scalds-your-skin shower preset and my boys/wife can have their own temperatures that are comfortable to them.

      That said, however, I'd expect that this kind of shower would be a premium-priced unit. Something that only 5% of consumers would buy. Most people would get the basic "fiddle with the analog knobs and get your desired temperature" model.

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    4. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I concur! We are already putting small local businesses out of business, buying from Costco which imports the majority of its products from China. The more we send our money overseas, the less we will have for ourselves. So yeah, We will (and already do) for the most part use the cheapest with no consideration of the long term ramifications it has on our local economy or our society as a whole.

    5. Re:Really? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      while I am a fan of the so-hot-it-almost-scalds settings, I find I have to quite slowly crank the shower up to that temperature to stay comfortable.

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    6. Re:Really? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Thermostatic mixing valve. Look it up.

    7. Re:Really? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      A thermostatic mixing valve is cheap.

    8. Re:Really? by SecurityGuy · · Score: 1

      The most egregious of which was fMRI to authenticate you...at an ad agency. That's seriously expensive hardware. I *might* buy something like that at classified sites, but not in 15 years. And anyway, it's cheaper to have conventional authentication and security guards who are there every day and simply know what you look like.

    9. Re:Really? by N1AK · · Score: 1

      Really? All it would take is some basic ability to detect who enters the shower: IR cam, simple radar, weight/charge sensor in shower floor, normal cam etc which cost very little and a control unit in the power shower casing. Actually, thinking about it I'm slightly surprised no one offers it already; possibly there's no real demand currently.

      The GPs post was pretty far off though. We use devices because they are effective, stylish and for many other criteria. A £5 watch is pretty much as good as a £5000 watch for most people. Many people use Smartphones as alarms. I have a chip based alarm system at home exactly because although cheap a metal key isn't good enough.

    10. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remote-controlled showers with preset temp/flow control have apparently been available since 2009.

    11. Re:Really? by CheshireDragon · · Score: 1

      While most everything you say is true and most likely won't be replaced; you have to remember that this guy is a manager type in some advertising company and is possibly quite rich. We all know that the rich buy more expensive and useless shit, simply because they can afford it. Another approach is that all this stuff is not likely to be around in 15yrs, but what about 100? IF we can all learn to get along, deflect global destroying asteroids, rid the world of religion and a few other minor adjustments(some having to do with resource usage) then I think we shall be around for a very long time and this future may be possible. Now, I am off to go build a self-sustaining cryogenic chamber so I can be re awakened when it all arrives. :D

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    12. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I laugh at the author's assumption that we'll want this excessive use of technology.

      I'm pretty sure every single point mentioned in the article made me cringe. I don't want to worry about how to control my damn shower when the neural interface mind card rfid reader breaks. I want full manual control over the amount of hot and cold water. My brain can remember quite well enough that setting the hot water knob pointing like this and the cold water knob pointing like that is good for most days, except if I think it's going to be cold out when I set the hot water knob a few millimeters to the left to prepare myself. My computer authenticates only with a username and a (really damn good) password, because I trust /etc/shadow more than I trust that damn fingerprint scanner, and certainly more than the facial recognition crap.

      The future should be about discovering new things, exploring strange new worlds, and solving actual problems. Not masturbating to how many different ways we can post things to twitter or unlock the doors of our cars.

    13. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like my manual door locks, as there's a certain amount of skill required to pick one that a skr1pt k1dd13 can't download off of the Internet to use.

      You've never heard of lock bumping.

    14. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're being short-sighted. Consider how many "almost" disposable and straight-up disposable things you have now that were really expensive 15 years ago: Smart phones, RFID chips used in metro (mass transit) passes, wifi in everything, toys (you can buy an uncountable number of nick-nacks now that light up and play sound for under $10), digital cameras... This list goes on and on.

      Some stuff is still expensive (like cars and televisions), but physically small things that are information-technology related and small in size (like processors, sensors, and even to some extent motors and servos) keep getting cheaper and cheaper. Part of this is due to mass production efficiencies, part of it is due to cheaper methods for making stuff in the first place (like printable circuits). Predicting sensors and micro-controllers *won't* be vastly more ubiquitous in 15 years, I think, is the far more unbelievable claim.

    15. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely! Why, each morning I rise to the sound of my wind-up alarm clock because it's cheap and easily replaced. I make my way to a bath filed with water heated on the stove because that system is cheap and easy to replace. I dress in wool clothing, shave with a single-blade razor, eat my morning slow cooked oatmeal porridge and take a trolley to work at the printing plant.

      All of these systems are cheap and easily replaced, but something better came along and we moved on.

    16. Re:Really? by YttriumOxide · · Score: 1

      Here in Germany, in nicer apartments it's relatively common to have a separate water heater with electronic temperature control in the bathroom (crappy apartments don't have them; but I'd say the majority I've seen do).

      It's common to simply set the max temperature to what you want to shower at, then when you jump in the shower, just blast it on full hot and you won't have to worry about it.

      Sadly, no way to program different temperatures for different people, but the concept is there and pretty widespread.

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    17. Re:Really? by mlts · · Score: 1

      I think there will eventually be a backlash. For example on cars, people don't want to control the whole vehicle workings on a touchscreen which requires looking at. They want buttons so the radio's volume can be adjusted without taking the eyes off the road.

      As for keylocks, anyone who watches YouTube sees the automatic locks getting defeated left and right. At least a purely mechanical lock that is of decent security requires some manual dexterity to open, and picking a lock for more than a few seconds becomes very noticable. (I personally prefer Evva or Abloy cylinders, but Medeco3 or Mul-T-Lock [1] are decent as well.)

      Of course, it is cooler to have everything electronic, from the lock on the door to the water valves... however, most people wouldn't care to upgrade, and even the most intrusive government isn't going to pay for those upgrades. I can see this in high rise apartments where being able to cut off hot water might be useful for the management company for PR reasons.

      Mul-T-Lock is nice because you can order additional functionality, such as being able to "rekey" twice by sticking in a second key which moves a ball bearing out of the pin stick. Another item is the ability to have one key which can only lock, another key which can only unlock. Of course, the ability to have one key lock out another set on a temporary basis is nice.

    18. Re:Really? by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      In short, almost all of our technology is minimalist, because once a technology is developed into a decent working system, there's not a lot of good in changing it for a more expensive system. I like my manual door locks, as there's a certain amount of skill required to pick one that a skr1pt k1dd13 can't download off of the Internet to use.

      Google bump keys.

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    19. Re:Really? by BevanFindlay · · Score: 1

      One possible reason an advanced shower could become mainstream is if the cost of clean water goes high enough that it outweighs the technology to deliver it (which is quite possible in many parts of the world). Of course, given sufficient energy you can clean just about any water, so maybe the argument still stands...

    20. Re:Really? by TWX · · Score: 1

      Ah, there's the rub- something better. Not simply something different or something technological simply for technology's sake.

      The electric, plug-in alarm clock was an improvement and was simple to implement, but it required the invention of the quartz watch before it became practical. It was also an improvement because while it delivered the same goal as the mechanical one, it didn't require daily attention to make function. It also was cheaper to build than the windup clock.

      For all of your other examples, the technologies that replaced them were actual improvements, not simply change for change's sake. Hot water plumbing, safety razors (though that point could be argued), food, etc.

      Adding expensive controls for existing technologies probably doesn't make sense.

      What I can see happening is that home computers and entertainment centers continue to merge. Right now I have to have a computer in my entertainment center to use a web browser or other such content on my TV, and I have to have a separate recording device to record OTA TV. Many TVs already have cable ethernet and wifi capability, it probably wouldn't be hard to add OTA recording and general purpose internet access, or a whole PC, right in the housing.

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    21. Re:Really? by canadiannomad · · Score: 1

      I like my manual door locks, as there's a certain amount of skill required to pick one that a skr1pt k1dd13 can't download off of the Internet to use.

      Wait till 3D printers are ubiquitous, then yes, a skr1pt k1dd13 could download a 'hack' off of the Internet to unlock your manual doors.

      Luckily you could update your door mechanisms with the latest open-source module, print it off along with a few new keys and be on your way...

      --
      Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
  15. I stopped at water quota. by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    So Soviet Russia is the future a decade an a half hence? I ignored the CID, but the water quota is ridiculous. Unless we have drastically less water due to using as nuclear fusion fuel, we'll still have all the water we have now.

    1. Re:I stopped at water quota. by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      The *Earth* will still have the same amount of water, but what about the aquifers or ice melt your city depends on?

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    2. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fresh water shortages are likely to occur in the future (though obviously more likely in more arid climates), and national-scale desalinization would require major changes in our energy infrastructure.

    3. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless we have drastically less water due to using as nuclear fusion fuel, we'll still have all the water we have now.

      Yes, "we" collectively will.

      Now, how did you find this year's Midwest droughts?

      In other words: it's like the difference between weather and climate.

    4. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, "we" collectively will.

      Now, how did you find this year's Midwest droughts?

      In other words: it's like the difference between weather and climate.

      I found the droughts to be nearly the polar opposite of the extreme flooding we had last year.

    5. Re:I stopped at water quota. by busyqth · · Score: 1

      So Soviet Russia is the future a decade an a half hence? I ignored the CID, but the water quota is ridiculous. Unless we have drastically less water due to using as nuclear fusion fuel, we'll still have all the water we have now.

      You have completely misunderstood the implication.

      It's not that there will actually be a shortage of water, mandatory water quotas will be introduced as a means of beating down and controlling the populace, the original laws being justified by emotional appeals to the need to "save the earth".

    6. Re:I stopped at water quota. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Total water doesn't matter. Accessible water does. Saltwater isn't much use - it needs desalination, which is prohibatively expensive. So if you use water faster than the rain falls, eventually it's going to run out.

    7. Re:I stopped at water quota. by vlm · · Score: 1

      Not to mention fairness. If Vegas and Phoenix actually need a quota, Chicago's going to get one anyway just to make it fair. Probably federally enforced.

      Amusingly my "water" bill is broken down into water and sewage costs and sewage costs about 2x as much per gallon as water.. I think we'll see a sewage quote before we see a water quota.

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    8. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Desler · · Score: 2

      In many parts of the world there are shortages of water. If you think there won't be more constrained water supplies as we add a few more billion people you are incredibly naive.

    9. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention fairness. If Vegas and Phoenix actually need a quota, Chicago's going to get one anyway just to make it fair. Probably federally enforced.

      Amusingly my "water" bill is broken down into water and sewage costs and sewage costs about 2x as much per gallon as water.. I think we'll see a sewage quote before we see a water quota.

      This just in: your shit stinks

    10. Re:I stopped at water quota. by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      Desalinization is fine as long as you can keep the energy cheap: if we really have hundreds of years of natural gas or "Clean coal" under our feet we can afford to keep desalinating water. If the price of water doubled for users it would have very little impact, fresh water is basically thought of as "free" and wasted en mass; if that mindset were just changed to "cheap enough" water usage would drop a lot.

    11. Re:I stopped at water quota. by busyqth · · Score: 2

      In many parts of the world there are shortages of water. If you think there won't be more constrained water supplies as we add a few more billion people you are incredibly naive.

      Those few billion more people are going to be in Africa, and their water quota will be a function of how their local well is holding up, whether they dig any new wells, etc.
      They won't be worrying about their auto-temperature-controlled shower, and I won't be worrying about a water quota.

    12. Re:I stopped at water quota. by nomadic · · Score: 1

      and national-scale desalinization would require major changes in our energy infrastructure.

      And be ecologically disastrous.

    13. Re:I stopped at water quota. by nomadic · · Score: 1

      Desalinization on a large scale would devastate coastal ecosystems, you have to do something with all that salt or brine.

    14. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Gravitron+5000 · · Score: 1

      Amusingly my "water" bill is broken down into water and sewage costs and sewage costs about 2x as much per gallon as water.. I think we'll see a sewage quote before we see a water quota.

      We already get sewage quotes every time politicians open their mouths.

    15. Re:I stopped at water quota. by theedgeofoblivious · · Score: 1

      There is no need for national-scale desalinization. Some areas do have enough water.

      There is a need for certain areas to start using desalinization.

    16. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Easy, just build a resalinization plant next door for the waste water. Then, take the rest and sell it to the colder climates for help with snow and ice control.

    17. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...we'll still have all the water we have now.

      Yes, but we are already pushing the limits in places like Denver, DFW, southern CA, etc., and water demand is exploding. People like T Boone Pickens are already trying to establish area-water-supply monopolies. Source: the delightful lady I'm sleeping with - an environmental P.E.

      I realize this admission (either having a GF, or providing the information source) may well disqualify me from posting here .

    18. Re:I stopped at water quota. by prefec2 · · Score: 1

      Limited resources is not a communism thing. It is a natural thing. If you live in a not so water rich region (like CA) and waste water like hell, then you will get in trouble when a) the population grows, b) the amount of usable water is reduced or c) on a per person basis people try to waste more water. You can only eat the cake once. You know.

    19. Re:I stopped at water quota. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Doubt it. Dump the salty water back into the ocean. It's only about 5%-15% saltier and it gets dumped into a mass body that, yeah, isn't going to give a shit.

    20. Re:I stopped at water quota. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      It's only 5%-15% more salty than the input (more correctly, about 85%-95% of the water that goes in leaves). There's only so much production, so much flow. There's tide, which yanks water out to sea. If it did become a problem (hard to do), we could cycle water towers by drawing and desalinizing just before peak tide so the tide overwhelms the impact, then pulls back to take the salty water out into the ocean and diffuse into a negligible impact (within normal variation).

    21. Re:I stopped at water quota. by KillaBeave · · Score: 1

      They can buy it from those of us with water. Detroit, Cleveland, Milwaukee and Chicago will become the richest places in America after winning the war with Canada over the Great Lakes :)

    22. Re:I stopped at water quota. by MozeeToby · · Score: 1

      Are people really not aware that a huge number of areas are depleting their water tables? We're taking water out faster than nature is putting it back in, eventually those aquifers are going to run dry.

    23. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If we can get to the manufacturing stage we will soon be able to desalinate water by simply filtering out the salt using a graphene sieve.

    24. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where do you think the constant supply of freshwater that fills the streams and rivers that supply your town with water comes from?
      Look up meltwater sometime, and try to extrapolate what global warming means for it.
      Also, look up trends on water demand for the past century. It's not just supply that's a problem.

    25. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So shower with the high saline ocean water... filter it and don't worry about the salt... it's good for your skin and will save fresh water for consumption.

    26. Re:I stopped at water quota. by SkimTony · · Score: 1

      Hail Malthus!

    27. Re:I stopped at water quota. by BevanFindlay · · Score: 1

      I live in New Zealand, in a city known for how much it rains. And our reservoirs will be hitting bottom in very slightly past this timeframe unless some significant alternatives (not on current plans) are implemented. (This is environmental engineering modelling data I saw less than a week ago).

      Water is a much bigger problem than most people realise.

    28. Re:I stopped at water quota. by SoulNibbler · · Score: 1

      Or we could ya know... USE the SALTS. Those are valuable chemicals! Think of all the magnesium and sodium and bromide we could get if we honestly had cheap enough power to be worried about the ecological impact of desalination.

    29. Re:I stopped at water quota. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      It's a lot harder to recover salts than desalinate. Desalinization is reverse osmosis; 10 gal 3% salt water runs by, 1 gal freshwater comes out and 9 gal 3.3% salt water comes out the other end.

    30. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think that's true. Since humans are, what, ~60% water, the more of us around, the less total water available.

      Yes, yes, that means we're only about 100lbs of water each, but times that by 7 billion... that's a lotta meatbags!

    31. Re:I stopped at water quota. by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      The US is at a reproductive loss, as is China, and water is a local resource, so overcrowding in Africa will not affect the price of water in the US, until water is precious enough to start shipping tankers of the stuff around. There will not be billions of people living near me, constraining my water supplies. I've never lived in places where water was scarce, and some places had unmetered water. We just transitioned to metered water here this year so that sewer could be metered from water (the sewers are starting to fail, being so old, and they needed to charge to be able to afford the upkeep). So water is metered mainly to calculate the sewer costs, which is more than the water charge. When water is so precious that they pay me to put it down the drain, I'll think it's scarce. But as long as it's more expensive to give it back to the city than it was to get it in the first place, I can't see how it's considered scarce.

    32. Re:I stopped at water quota. by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Nope. There'd be no net change in ocean salinity. There may need to be some thought to the coastal areas, but not that much. Here, they run the sewer pipes out a few miles into the ocean before they dump out, so as not to disturb the more delicate coastal areas.

    33. Re:I stopped at water quota. by SoulNibbler · · Score: 1

      That and even very efficient (nearly perfect these days) desalinization takes a bunch of energy. I was being a bit tongue in cheek, though we do harvest certain elements from sea water using electrolysis.

    34. Re:I stopped at water quota. by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I dunno, I think we could build the desalinization plant like the Bespin HE3 gas mine in the Wolf system. HE3 is only 0.07% of helium gas, a pretty rare isotope; Bespin uses the return gas line as a draw to boost the uptake line, reducing the amount of energy used. Though, also since the mine is on a huge fucking gas giant and the potential is significant, they ground out the upper atmosphere through the gas line and use the potential difference as a driver--as electricity.

      RO returns a lot of the water back to ground. We could use the return as a siphon, giving say 85% return to ground. So you'd need to supply i.e. 15%(ish) of the pumping power, the rest comes from counterbalance via returning the waste water to ground.

    35. Re:I stopped at water quota. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reverse osmosis technology, or nuclear fusion, or some other technology will allow seawater to be purified thereby solving the water problem. Third world countries might legitimately suffer water issues, but there is no reason on earth that industrialized nations should.
      The earth is two thirds water there is no reason we should ever have a water problem. The real question is why, if there was a water problem would one continue to shower with an open loop system using water instead of a closed loop system using a water based cleaning solution?

  16. "Car"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In 15 years, who can afford to drive a car? This guy must be filthy rich.

  17. Total fantasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Americans will never switch to metric...

    1. Re:Total fantasy by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Americans will never switch to metric...

      Americans were switched over to metric back in 1893.

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    2. Re:Total fantasy by busyqth · · Score: 1

      Americans will never switch to metric...

      Americans were switched over to metric back in 1893.

      So that's why I've started getting gypped out of 24 mL of beer in every bottle.

    3. Re:Total fantasy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and how's that working out for you?

  18. This is all totoal BS by adric22 · · Score: 2

    Whoever wrote this is having a very imaginative time, but I don't see any of this stuff ever being a reality. Sorry.

  19. Don't quit your day job by Desler · · Score: 5, Funny

    So soulskill has found something he's even worse at then editing submissions. Good job, man!

    1. Re:Don't quit your day job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, at least he didn't pay for the sandwich with bitcoin!

    2. Re:Don't quit your day job by Fox_1 · · Score: 1

      Second person perspective writing is a crime against humanity.
      YOU have just got your 7th grade exercise in creative writing posted to a news site read by people who actually don't enjoy having their eyeballs bleed. YOU giggle as the tags and cries of despair come pouring in across the interwebs. But then something happens when YOU see YOUR cackling face reflected in the nearby plastic cover of YOUR David Hasslehoff poster. David's honest face and oh so tight leather pants make YOU realize that this is not what The Hoff would do.
      YOU become ashamed of YOURself and take YOUR soul destroying ass to a short pier where YOU plan on taking a long walk. YOU will do this because YOU know that it is the only way YOU can find absolution from this horror that YOU have perpetuated upon this world. Also YOU know that YOU will never have the respect of YOUR friends and coworkers until YOU have taken this corrective action.

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    3. Re:Don't quit your day job by jeffporcaro · · Score: 1

      Why the Soulskill hating? I've been here a few years, and it seems that every once in a while, this editor or that editor is deemed an incompetent moron by some sort of acclamation, and I have never been able to find any rhyme or reason to it. Other than essentially saying "I don't like Soulskill," this comment doesn't really add anything to the conversation.

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    4. Re:Don't quit your day job by Desler · · Score: 1

      Because he's a terrible editor and writer? His story was uninaginative schlock. Michael Bay could have written something less contrived and inane.

    5. Re:Don't quit your day job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always thought his name was parsed soul-skill, but I've just realised it's souls-kill. Mine is certainly worse for wear after reading that submission.

  20. TL;DR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    inb4 the dinosaur and bell-air

    1. Re:tl;dr by Aqualung812 · · Score: 2

      I stopped there, because I know there are too many people that will cling to measuring everything in feetsies & gerbil penises in the US to ever move to metric.

      I've just decided to start using metric now, and let everyone else do the converting. If someone asks for the temperature, I tell it to them in Celsius, and I tell them directions in kilometers.
      If they're going to cling to the past, I'm going to let them to the converting, not me.

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    2. Re:tl;dr by llZENll · · Score: 1

      Because at the lowest level eventually everything is designed using metric, the people who work with such designs adopt and use metric first, it then filters out to a broader and broader population, very slowly, until there is no point in continuing with the annoyance of two systems, critical mass if formed and the rest are "reminding themselves" of the old system for a few years. It should be no surprise that the subject is the one reminding himself of the old system since he is in advertising and presumably in the US, and thus last to adopt it.

    3. Re:tl;dr by Brian+Feldman · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a waste of breath to me.

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    4. Re:tl;dr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like a lot of fun at parties.

    5. Re:tl;dr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even metric is arbitrary..

    6. Re:tl;dr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the Mechanical Engineering world, things are designed in whatever unit the designer choose, and is converted to "counts" which is a machine specific unit on an encoder wheel somewhere inside the machine. Aside from what tools get loaded, there isn't that big a difference for the shop what units are selected on the panel. Everything gets converted. Furlongs or Plank units. It all ends up as counts in the machine.

      Metric isn't special. And you're not special if you're using it, or not using, any more than if you drive a red car or a white car. It's just paint.

    7. Re:tl;dr by CheshireDragon · · Score: 1

      If someone asks for the temperature,... ...and I tell them directions in kilometers.


      When the hell has anyone EVER asked for the temp? I can't even remember the last time anyone asked for directions. Temp and GPS are readily available on the 'smart'phone now.

      Now that I think about it I remember just before the cell phone explosion was the last time anyone asked me for the time.

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    8. Re:tl;dr by hajus · · Score: 1

      There's a direction in food packaging to switch to metric because right now, international companies have to have a different wrapper (in english oz.) for the US and metric (ml) for the rest for the world. Right now they have to have the measurements in english in the US. They want to have a choice. Then you'll start seeing a lot of foods with metric measurements on the carton/wrapper for the total size because they will use the same wrapper for the US that is used for most every other country. The sodium and such are already listed in metric.

      Then you have the weathermen on tv, who get all their numbers in Celcius but have to convert them for the masses.

      It's a slow process, but it's happening very slowly in many areas because staying with english units increases costs.

    9. Re:tl;dr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #*@^ you buddy. If the metric system is so great, how do you measure real eggs (not bottled garbage)?

      Metric isn't perfect... I live in a dual measurement world and it is fine. Quit whining like an immature chimp and trying to pretend that you are somehow superior. Why don't all Europeans speak the same language? Europeans live in a smaller geographic area than the US, let other than immigration related issues, England is the de facto language. Sounds like all of the "metric is king" Europeans (or whomever else they may be) are hypocrites.

    10. Re:tl;dr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stopped there, because I know there are too many people that will cling to measuring everything in feetsies & gerbil penises in the US to ever move to metric.

      *applause*

      Btw, why does slashdot show me signed in on main page but not on posts?!?

  21. Based on experience by SirGarlon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Based on experience, a day in my life 15 years from now will look a lot like a day in my life now. Except, hopefully, I won't still be working on my second master's degree, and I'll have kids.

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    1. Re:Based on experience by rgbrenner · · Score: 2

      I'll second this.

      This "article" is nothing more than fantasy written in the same vein as similar articles in the 50s. 15 years from now will be NOTHING like the article.

      It will be like today, with some fairly minor improvements. Think of the improvements between 1995 and today.

      See the revolutionary awesome difference? No? That's because there were no revolutionary changes. We got faster processors, smaller phones, faster internet connections, etc, etc, etc. But those are all minor in the grand scheme of things.

      Things just don't change that fast.

    2. Re:Based on experience by SlashAdotter · · Score: 1

      Oh, it's going to way different from now if you have kids, believe me :-)

    3. Re:Based on experience by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Looking the other way, 15 years ago...

      I was browsing the Internet and listening to music on my Newton 2100 with a wired Ethernet card. Would be a couple more years before 802.11b routers and cards were available. I was the only person I knew with a RoadRunner cable modem (test market) and had a PowerComputing clone Mac with three 19" Sony monitors. Web comics were just getting big; I was following almost 10 of them in '97.

      The college I worked at was in the middle of designing a new computer center, that would be 10' above the surrounding campus, due to frequent flooding (Florida Gulf Coast) and we were putting up with rolling blackouts each summer, due to high demand.

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      I drank what? -- Socrates
    4. Re:Based on experience by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      and I'll have kids.

      Be careful what you wish for

      --

      Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.

    5. Re:Based on experience by rasmusbr · · Score: 2

      I'd say one or two things will be dramatically different from now, while most other things will be very slightly different or exactly the same. I can't think of a 15-year period since 1900 when there wasn't at least one dramatic breakthrough that changed some aspect of society.

      My money would be on Google cars and Google glass coming to fruition, and on photovoltaics becoming ubiquitous.

      You'll probably have your genome on file 15 years from now, because the cost of doing it will be trivial, but I doubt that it will make much difference in practice unless you happen to have one of the very specific things that they'l have stumbled on personalized cures for.

    6. Re:Based on experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hopefully [...] I'll have kids

      You should regard children in the same way that you regard your own legs. Be extremely grateful for the ones you have, but you shouldn't be eager to acquire more.

    7. Re:Based on experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 1995, most people didn't have internet and most of those that did were on dial-up. At least in terms of Internet, we've come a long way.

    8. Re:Based on experience by rgbrenner · · Score: 1

      Please name one dramatic breakthrough that exists today that did not exist in 1997.

      Remember you said dramatic. And despite Jobs' product speeches, the iPhone does not count as dramatically different.

    9. Re:Based on experience by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Based on experience, a day in my life 15 years from now will look a lot like a day in my life now. Except, hopefully, I won't still be working on my second master's degree, and I'll wish I didn't have kids.

      Fixed that for you.

    10. Re:Based on experience by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      PV is on the whole stupid. Expensive and dirty to manufacture, low-efficiency, overspecialized use of space.

      We have natural gas air conditioning units. We have solar hot water heaters and hydronic heating systems. My house is going to get a solar hot water heat upgrade, followed by a hydronic system. The hot water system usually switches off halfway through the day, so there's excess heat. The tank is 160F-190F, with a thermostatic mixing valve following to add cold water to set 135F household water temperature--which means it multiplies the volume of the tank (less actual hot water goes into the hot water lines) and gives it resistance to fluctuation down to 135F (if the tank is 140F, I'm still getting 135F just like when it's 190F).

      Hydronic heater pulls tank water (NOT heating loop water) through a coil in the main furnace. A blower then cools this water. This means my (at least) 130F water tank heats my house. Failing that, a gas furnace (or heat pump, if you want--there are combined water heater and space heat heatpumps, so it's not inappropriate as a water and home heat backup) kicks in to heat the water tank itself, thus providing hot water to heat the house. Mainly though, sunlight heats the house. This eliminates most gas usage or electricity usage to drive a heat pump if the tank is big enough and the collector array is sized for the tank.

      In the summer, the hot loop (at around 300F!) diverts to circulate past the air conditioning unit. This is an absorption system basically identical to modern natural gas AC units: sealed unit containing water, ammonia, liquefied hydrogen. Moving part is a pump to heat exchange to a standard refrigeration coil in the furnace, again just like modern gas AC units (they really do just drop outside, rig up to gas plumbing, and plug into your existing furnace). Again, gas or heat pump back-up. Hot, sunny days drive the AC harder.

      Above a certain operating (hot loop) temperature AND (water) tank temperature, the hot loop also diverts to a sterling engine. This engine drives a cooling pump to cool itself, and also a dynamo. Thus when the system is generating heat beyond what is needed to get hot water and heating/AC, it heat dumps into an electricity producing dynamo somewhat smaller than a gas back-up generator stuffed into your basement. Importantly, this doesn't waste a ton of roof space for photovoltaics that have low efficiency and constantly degrade, nor does it convert that power back (with even more loss) to drive heating or AC (heat pump). Instead, it drives a teflon-lubricated heat engine (teflon is used rather than grease to lubricate drive train bearings in cars now) which needs almost no maintenance (probably: seals, which will be high-temperature teflon O-rings anyway--I use these in beer brewing, actually...) and will last decades without an efficiency drop.

      Steel. Glass. Normal forging. No excessive use of toxic chemicals (teflon sparingly, and it's not toxic but its production may be?). Long maintenance cycles. High efficiency. Maximum flexibility in minimum space usage (tank, thermonic furnace, and AC, all same size as standard; dynamo is an addition). Flexible stainless steel piping in insulation for the hot loop, rather than copper, to minimize energy loss (bare stainless has 40% of the energy loss of copper; insulated stainless has much less).

    11. Re:Based on experience by RicktheBrick · · Score: 1

      If one doubles a penny one still is very poor. It is only after doubling 20 times one finds his wealth growing at a significant pace. It is the same with technology. We are at the time when we have doubled the penny 30 times so the comparison with the amount of change in the last 15 years is not right. I really do not see this person driving back and forth to work since most will be done right at home. I would really like to talk about what all this technology will do to our life. For instance what will this mean to the commercial district. I can see most of our stores closing their doors since most things will be ordered over the internet and delivered to our homes. So that would mean that a vast amount of area would be left with no buildings. I can even see where our own beds would be a hospital bed for almost everything but the most serious cases. Now here is my story. One wakes up at 4 am because scientist have finally discovered why we sleep and now we take a pill that will double the effects of our sleeping so we can get away with 4 hours of sleep a night. One now goes to the bathroom where the toilet does a physical on us every time we sit on it. It now plans our exercise routine as we go to our personal gym that will record every thing we do and will constantly nag us to do what we can. We will then go to our eating room where we will eat what the computer has decided for us to eat. It will be delivered to our room by an automated delivery system from a central location in the vast building we live in. Any waste and dishes will be delivered back to that location. The apartment will be designed so that it will be totally self clean when we depart for a walk in the park. After we get back we go to our communication room where we will communicate with our fellow workers and accomplish our daily work. It will take at most 4 hours. The computer then will challenge us (using the vast amount of information it has about us) to games which will keep us mentally alert.

    12. Re:Based on experience by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      Yeah, gas will be more important than PV and we're probably moving towards a methane economy, but the average person will barely notice it in their day to day life.

      I'm talking about the sort of stuff that you could weave into a "a day in the life of" story, like like roofs everywhere being covered in PV panels because they've become so cheap that you might as well do it. If you think that PV cells are stupid, do not buy them and do tell your government to stop subsidizing them. I think they will turn out to be okay based on the one or two studies that I've read about their environmental impact.

      Solar heating is also one of those important things that are already happening, but that most people won't notice. Most solar heating systems seem to use the ground as the heat collector and once you have one in your house it just sits there quietly doing its job until the heat pump fails.

    13. Re:Based on experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A massive budget deficit with no end in sight.

    14. Re:Based on experience by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      My list would be:

      1. Affordable radios that connect digital devices with one another (WiFi, GPRS, 3G, 4G).
      2. Affordable lightweight rechargeable batteries.
      3. Affordable thin lightweight screens (LCD, OLED).
      4. Affordable digital photography sensors.
      5. Easy to use software and web services that change the way we consume media and communicate with other people (Google, Wikipedia, Youtube, Facebook, etc).

      The iPhone merges all of these things into one package, but it's far from the only thing that has changed. Everything about how we consume media and tele communicate has changed dramatically. The majority of people did not own laptops in 1997. Stores were selling 56k modems as upgrades to existing 28k and 14k modems. A considerable number of people did not own cellphones. I remember helping a less tech-savvy friend buy a portable cassette player and FM radio and a big pack of AA batteries in 1997. It sold for something like a fifth of the price of an mp3-player with 32MB of storage and no FM radio.

    15. Re:Based on experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhhh...? Only 17% of US households had internet access in the home in 1997. Today that number seems to be around 70%.

      Couldn't find a US only number quickly for 1997, but in the developed world 18% of people had cell phones. Today 82% of Americans have cellphones, and 46% of Americans have smartphones. Smartphones are dramatically different than the communication technologies people used in 1997. Feel free to disagree, but I for one think they are a huge improvement over sitting by the phone all day waiting for a call, or not knowing where the hell you're going trying to figure out an address from a map (turn by turn nav on my android phone), or looking for reviews of restaurants in the area on the go, or trying to find the nearest coffee shop, or just looking up some random fact or reading the news or something on the go.

      I'm not sure what you're expecting, but these things take time to adopt. Sure, the internet and cell phones existed in 1997 but they were crappy and expensive. There are dramatic breakthroughs happening in technology right now, they're just going to take some time to go from being things that happen in a lab, or being things that the super rich have, to being things that the typical middle class use.

      The self driving car exists right now, but (depending on how wealthy you are) you won't have one for a while. Are you going to complain that it wasn't a dramatic breakthrough 30 years from now because it happened in 2011/2012?

    16. Re:Based on experience by BradleyUffner · · Score: 1

      Please name one dramatic breakthrough that exists today that did not exist in 1997.

      Remember you said dramatic. And despite Jobs' product speeches, the iPhone does not count as dramatically different.

      Not the iPhone specifically, but the rise of general purpose smart phones with data access to the internet practically everywhere..

    17. Re:Based on experience by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Yeah, gas should be good for 100 years; but even beyond that, look at Europe and look at some one-off US projects. Europe has fields of parabolic reflectors basically doing a miniature SAPL at a sterling engine to drive a dynamo--looks like a satellite dish with a big metal brick at the antenna focal point. The US has one or two large-scale molten salt generators that do the same, just on a giant penis-shaped tower that's easier to take out if you want to down the grid (yeah dropping a plane in a field of collectors won't do much overall).

      Solar heating systems shouldn't be using the ground as a heat collector. What you should have is plumbing circulating through a collector on the roof, with a water pump (not heat pump) circulating antifreeze (polyethylglycol, food grade, non-bactericidal below 20% concentration, low toxicity) past a heat pipe that's soaking up sunlight (getting boiling hot). That hot loop can circulate through a coil, or you can heat the hot water tank and circulate THAT through a coil; either way, blow air through it into the HVAC and you have forced air heating. If the water pump fails, a new one is $40, a really good new one is $120.

      Thing about PV panels is they're "becoming cheap" but it takes exotic process and materials to get a split triple band panel, for example manganese-tungsten-tellurium crystal with oxygen forced into it. That'll get you 20%, maybe nearing 25% efficiency; current tier 1 solar panels are 16%-17%. By comparison, a collector tube captures 100% of what lands on its black surface, and from there it's loss to radiation--hence why they use an evacuated tube (hint: it's a thermos), stainless steel line (poor thermal conductor) wrapped in insulation, etc. The sterling engine can reach 50% efficiency of conversion of what reaches it--if that's 80%, then so be it, 40% efficiency which is better than exotic PV. more likely you'll get about 30% efficiency, 25% off 80% collection efficiency, which is just as good as a real solar panel--ignoring the 100% efficiency of a hydronic furnace and a solar water heater themselves, along with the mind-bending concept of using heat to cool your house.

      Part of it, I think, is a huge farce about how electricity is "safe". Electricity doesn't "leak," it doesn't "ignite," it doesn't "burn." Think about how your home insurance is affected by owning a wood burning stove or (god forbid) gas lighting. It's not like electricity can cause a fire. Similarly, running high-pressure 300 degree hot water would be nuts; it's not like electricity can injure someone. I think we could functionally come up with safety systems to cut off and blow pressure or seal gas in the event of a power loss or a fault; the issue is people don't believe safety in these systems is functionally possible. As such, imagine the insurance market's reaction to people having hot, pressurized, super-boiling water plumbing through the house and exposed in the basement.

      PV will catch on, but there are better ways to do this. Remember 100% of what you collect becomes heat in a solar heating system. Electricity generation and use are both difficult and lossy; most of what we do (cook, refrigerate, space heat, air condition) is just moving heat around.

    18. Re:Based on experience by mlts · · Score: 1

      I love your ideas. I'd do one thing different: I'd take the hot loop and a Sterling engine to make rotational force to not just drive the pump, but a compressor. This would provide the cooling needed for a house wide air conditioning system.

      The reason I'd go that route over an absorption fridge is that absorption systems are very fussy. Get one off level, and the rust inhibiter, sodium chromate, will cook out and form solids, which will not just plug up the lines, but with it not being in the liquid, the pipes will corrode and spring pinhole leaks... requiring a complete cooling system replacement. This is something learned the hardway by RV-ers, and why people end up replacing absorption fridges with inverters, solar panels/charge controllers, beefed up battery banks, and dorm fridges.

      There is also the fact that hydrogen builds up. One can search for "Norcold fire" and find out what big disasters a relatively small modification (a slightly bigger heating element) can possibly cause.

      I don't know if Einstein cycle refrigerators would be any better, as they use butane as a gas instead of hydrogen.

      What I'm hoping for is more advances in supercap batteries that store energy physically, not chemically, or general battery advances so we can get close to gasoline in energy stored per volume. If we can get a battery that has 1/10 the energy of gasoline by volume and so it safely, the world will be a drastically different place.

    19. Re:Based on experience by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Supercapacitors are inherently a bad design. They're basically just capacitors that are broken--the dielectric doesn't exist, rather conductors are slapped together and by virtue of not being an actual solid piece they won't get any electrical flow below a very low potential. That means they only run at pretty low voltage.

      PROPER capacitors built with nanomaterials will work better, but they'll also require higher grade of technology than we have.

    20. Re:Based on experience by YttriumOxide · · Score: 1

      Think of the improvements between 1995 and today.

      See the revolutionary awesome difference?

      Uh, yes... very much so.

      By far the biggest difference I see is that today, everyone is walking around connected to the internet through their pocket-computers and in near-constant communication with their friends, family and co-workers. In 1995, most people I knew didn't own a cellphone and the idea of using one for anything other than making phonecalls was pure fantasy.

      My desktop computer monitor in 1995 was 15 inch. I knew a fair few people with 17 inch monitors, but those were outside of my budget. Today, I consider 19 inch widescreens to be annoying small. (sure, that's just evolutionary rather than revolutionary; but it's significant when talking about the 1.5 metre screen described in the fantasy)

      Today, when I want to buy something, I type what I want in to a search engine of some kind (either specialised like eBay, or generic like Google); click around a bit and then it turns up on my doorstep a day or so (or maybe up to a week in some cases) later. Back in '95, I'd probably pull out the yellow pages; look around for a business that sells the type of thing I want; if I was lucky enough to find it, I'd go visit the store to see if they have the item I want (MAYBE call them, but that would be an exception more than a rule, for specific types of items only); then pay for it and either take it home, or wait for delivery.

      In '95, any coding I did of significant size would take hours to compile on my desktop computer. I'd set it compiling, then go away and do something else for awhile. If I'd screwed something up, then when I got back to my desk, I'd have to start the process from scratch again in a lot of cases. These days however, my largest project is a 10 minute compile, and most are in the range of seconds. I can compile after every little change and make design decisions based on how the code is actually running in front of me instead of imagining it in advance. This has lead to software becoming vastly more user friendly considering the excessive extra complexity that it now has.

      These days, if I want to watch a movie, I browse through my library of files on my media server, pick what I want to play and play it on any screen in my apartment. If I want something new; I can download it (legally or otherwise, depending). In '95, I still had a VCR hooked up to my CRT TV; and my movie collection totalled about 20 tapes that I was totally bored with; so would have to travel to the local video rental store to get something new.

      That's just a few of the fairly major differences between now and '95. They might not seem so much in isolation; but together it really adds up to a totally different world. I'll fully agree that some people's lives haven't changed greatly, but I would say that's by their own choice and not due to the revolutionary changes not being available.

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    21. Re:Based on experience by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      USB flash Drives! Although certainly not fail-proof, they are the true successor to the Floppy. A lot more reliable than the floppy, higher capacity than a floppy, significantly faster, and a lot smaller.

      It always boggled my mind people that kept documents ONLY on floppy (as opposed to transport between machines or as a backup). The number of times I've seen sole copies of a major term paper completely lost due to a "Not Ready reading drive A: (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)gnore" is heartbreaking.

      -partially tongue in cheek.

    22. Re:Based on experience by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      We had all kinds of revolutionary changes in the 1950s and 1960s and early 1970s and then government stopped investing in research and education and little of value has happened since.

      --
      If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
    23. Re:Based on experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here in New Zealand in circa 1990 we got PCs for the mainstream market, my father bought his company an 8087, an 8086 with a math co-processor for doing technical calculations with. In 1994 we got the Internet in a big way. Jump to now in 2012 everything is computer based and very little is printed in comparison to back then. The news says that many of our public schools are now rolling out iPads to students for interactive homework, especially in math class because it has been seen to be highly effective. These minor changes have been radical, we now have IT departments, something that didn't really exist in the mainstream until the late 1980s unless you worked for a corporation such as a bank, or for the central government. This in only 22 years.

    24. Re:Based on experience by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      15 years ago I was just starting to play around with smart card chips, which the banks were going to adopt "any day now" -- in some areas, there seems to have been a 15-year void, where things are just starting to pick up from where they left off back then.

      That said, I can remember life before the Microwave oven, and when only rich people had color TVs.... Transistor radios were still called that, and "digital wristwatches" had red LED displays. Back when "papers please" was being bandied around as showing how evil the Soviet Union was, and people were stockpiling gasoline and ammo because of the stock market crash and upcoming oil shortage....

      Oh, and Minicomputers were just catching on... paystubs could be calculated in Hours instead of Days!

      Yeah; I think 15 years will show us some "fringe" science becoming commonplace, some technology that's right on the horizon now being looked at yet again in a way that may actually be usable, and efficiency will be the big financial mover. Oh, and China, India and Brazil will be global financial powerhouses, and pushing the boundaries of science.

    25. Re:Based on experience by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      None of those changed anything. My monitor got smaller. I still have a monitor. I still have a mouse and keyboard. But my monitor got thinner. And that's your list for "dramatic breakthrough" The flexible-touch screen OLED screens would have been dramatic, but they still aren't here. Digital photography sensors changed nothing, and were invented in 1975, 20 years before you claim they were a "dramatic breakthrough", though they did become more affordable over time, just like phones and computers, neither of which made your list.

      In fact, your list seems to be "proof" that nothing changes in 20 years, other than gadgets become cheaper. So 20 years from now will look like now with more gadgets.

    26. Re:Based on experience by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      You know, you sound like the "one weird and cheap trick to cut 75% off your electricity bill" guy.

    27. Re:Based on experience by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      Almost nobody cares when something was "invented", whatever that means (first thought of? first described in detail? first prototype? first series production?). New inventions begin to matter when they become useful and affordable to a large number of users in the wealthy parts of the world.

      If the things I listed have not dramatically changed the way that you consume media and tele-communicate then you're probably someone who doesn't consume a lot of newly produced media and someone who prefers to communicate by means that were in common use before 1997. As I said, narrow fields.

      Maybe you're thinking of large mechanical stuff? I guess the last time people saw dramatic change thanks to such things must have been around the time when the B707 went into series production and satellites arguably brought important improvements in things like communications and weather forecasting. Approximately 0% of the population flew into space...

    28. Re:Based on experience by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Nothing about installing infrastructure is cheap--and face it, replacing your water heater, your AC, your furnace, and running the plumbing for a rooftop array is infrastructure. I still want to know how the utilities will function when everyone generates their own. I'm betting on a huge mark-up on electricity so the baseline is expensive.

  22. keep dreaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tl;dr

  23. Wow, the future is the past by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Reminds me of the original star trek, always carrying little cards around.

    Come on! " pull your Computing ID (CID) card from the alarm unit, and stumble out of the bedroom. Pausing briefly to drop your CID into your desktop computer,"

    Right, because computers won't be able to track who you are, your own home. Stopped reading there.

    1. Re:Wow, the future is the past by Gilmoure · · Score: 2

      Yup, people will either wear or have implanted some sort of RFID. Doubt physical recognition will be widespread enough y et. But I could be wrong.

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      I drank what? -- Socrates
    2. Re:Wow, the future is the past by rgbrenner · · Score: 1

      Implanted RFID? We still have to develop the technology for that.. and implants need FDA approval... If you think that's going to happen in 15 years, you've been reading too much of Soulskills writing.

    3. Re:Wow, the future is the past by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing the CID card's purpose isn't just to specify ID, but to prove it cryptographically. Either a government thing ('To protect the children and fight terrorism!') or the end result of the slow expansion of social networking services into other fields in their quest for more marketing data. Just as many forums and blogs today require a Facebook account to post, in fifteen years your landlord might require you have a Facebook ID card un unlock your apartment door. That way he benefits from a secure, revokable (Can't do that on mechanical locks!) authentication system backed up and subsidised by one of the mega-corps, and Facebook benefits by finding out exactly what times you arrive and leave your home.

      The move from password to card is obvious. Passwords are terribly insecure - easily guessed, easily forgotten, and most people use the same password for a wide array of different purposes.

    4. Re:Wow, the future is the past by Elder+Entropist · · Score: 1

      The technology has been around for quite a while. Commercial animal implants have been around for over a decade and are required in some jurisdictions.

      Hobbyists have been implanting themselves with subdermal RFID capsules since 1998. A company got approval from the FDA in 2004 and sold it as "VeriChip" or "VeriMed" until late 2010.

      There are some security, medical and political issues with the technology, but it's fairly mature.

    5. Re:Wow, the future is the past by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's to charge you for all the media content you consume. A small fee will be deducted from your account for every piece of copyrighted content you are exposed to. Your phone will monitor the environment to check for anything playing within hearing range, even if it is a song that you are singing yourself. Better soundproof that shower.

    6. Re:Wow, the future is the past by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Is why I said wear or have implanted. There will always be some folks against implants. Even though I'm not a fan of cosmetic body mods, for practice use; go for it!

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      I drank what? -- Socrates
  24. Only one sentence of this whole thing is likely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    " The organization that took over for NASA is likely to face budget cuts regardless of who wins."

    The rest is garbage.

  25. I'm in advertising? by ffoiii · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everything was plausible up until I found out I was in advertising, at which point I would obviously hack the order of precedence in my robot's "Three Laws" chip and command my robot to kill me.

    1. Re:I'm in advertising? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2

      That was the point where I thought, "Ah! I seem to have died and gone to Hell in 15 years. Oh, dear..."

      At least there were no flying cars or jetpacks.

    2. Re:I'm in advertising? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      No need for hacking, the "zeroth law" will take care of that, and your robot will strangle you as soon as it gets delivered to your home.

      --
      If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
    3. Re:I'm in advertising? by busyqth · · Score: 1

      All products are made by the same Chinese state-controlled conglomerate. Individual companies just buy them wholesale, rebrand, and resell. Advertising is the primary business of all western companies.

    4. Re:I'm in advertising? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not surprised at how many people seem to think that Azimov's laws were supposed to be successful. His stories were warnings that morality is not a simple list of mandates.

      That half-rant out of the way, any robot when informed that you were in advertising would recognize that having that job does irreparable harm both to yourself and other humans. As such, the proper course of preserving human well-being will start with burning the ad agency to the ground, and would have a very high chance of "freeing the advertisers from their living hell" in there as well.

  26. Sounds an extremely dull existence by second_coming · · Score: 2

    With all that 'advancement' in technology I would hope that we wouldn't all be relying on a card that could be lost or stolen.

    What about voice pattern analysis or retinal scans?

    1. Re:Sounds an extremely dull existence by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      ..one that you take from your alarm clock and put in your phone to boot.

      who the fuck uses an alarm clock? who the fuck would take their simcard from their phone and put it in their alarm clock? why the fuck would you do that? especially when you're constantly touting RFID NFC then why the fuck would you take the simcard(yo what do you think the cid is) out of your phone and physically attach it somewhere? what's the point of this article?? NO SODA?? no soda but you can order your fucking car to go around picking up flu medicine? europe is flooded - but China is not?

      pointless article! even if it's 15 years of slashdot.

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      world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
    2. Re:Sounds an extremely dull existence by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Don't worry. The card has your social security number, date of birth, and other personal information on a mag-stripe to prevent misuse. It is encoded using a routine declared Hack Proof by the Federal Department of CID Development. (Ignore any news story about them being insecure. Those news organizations who report this have been declared to be terrorists.)

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      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
    3. Re:Sounds an extremely dull existence by Rhacman · · Score: 1

      I prefer something that is hard to steal but still possible to be stolen. Why? well I'd rather someone stole my keys or my wallet than forced me to do something to access my property at gunpoint. I'd also rather avoid the support conversation "Sir, what you are saying is impossible. There is no way someone forged your retinal pattern and stole all your money. Clearly you are lying to collect compensation."

      I've had someone make fraudulent purchases with my credit card before. The company notified me when they detected a purchase made at a location I couldn't physically have gotten to from the last time I used the card in my area. All I had to do was let them know the purchases weren't mine and they took care of it for me. Card got cancelled and a new card with a new number was overnighted to me. Not as easy to mail someone a new eyball or a new voice when some crook figures out how to record your biometric signature and trick the biometric reader.

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    4. Re:Sounds an extremely dull existence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or how about consistency from the author... He mentioned fMRI and stating or thinking your name for a sort of authentication... assuming it is reliable and affordable, why not use that everywhere?

  27. 15 years from now... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... stuff will be pretty much the same as it is today. Just like stuff today is pretty much like it was 15 years ago.

    It's a bit easier to pick up my email on my phone, and my home internet connection is about 100 times faster. That's about it, really.

  28. Yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I almost expected it to tell me Nixon's head was working on his reelection campaign already.

  29. Re:I stopped at computer id card by Desler · · Score: 2

    He shouldn't consider himself an editor but he does anyway.

  30. Disapointed by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

    I read all the way to the end hoping to get to the nymphomaniac fembot or the cloned and imprinted sex-kitten

    1. Re:Disapointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read all the way to the end hoping to get to the nymphomaniac fembot or the cloned and imprinted sex-kitten

      Although they've been proven curb certain illgeal acts involving furries, it's still illegal to grow or graft human vaginas on kittens.

    2. Re:Disapointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if that's all you want, just go to thailand where all the other pervs go..

    3. Re:Disapointed by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      It's 9:30 am. Your specially programmed Wake-Me-Up nymphbot crawls on top of your sleeping body and begins to wiggle in an attempt to wake you up. Sleepily, you press a snooze button embedded in the interior of your right index finger, and she returns to sleep mode, snuggling warmly on top of you. Another ten minutes go by, and she again wiggles, this time more vigourously, in an attempt to get you to rise.

    4. Re:Disapointed by Guppy · · Score: 1

      I read all the way to the end hoping to get to the nymphomaniac fembot or the cloned and imprinted sex-kitten

      And unfortunately, due to U.N. restrictions on human-derived cell lines (plus predilections of certain Japanese otaku scientists), your sex-kittens are literally derived from engineered Felis catus genetic material.

      In other words, A cat is fine, too.

  31. Security nightmare by dkleinsc · · Score: 2

    Your alarm triggered the shower's heating unit, so the water comes out at a pleasant 108 degrees, exactly your preference.

    Or it would have, except that as a prank your roommate grabbed your CID and changed the preferences so that the water now comes out at 35 F (2 C).

    As the door closes behind you, you absently wave your phone by the doorbell panel. The embedded RFID chip triggers the locks and security system, and sends a command to start your car.

    Meanwhile, a bad guy read your RFID chip yesterday when you passed him going to the restaurant and made a copy. He uses it to unlock your house, sits down at the PC to install a tool that will send your CID and any other identifying information about you to him, figures out where your car is likely to be, closes the door, re-locking the security system and starting your car. A confederate hops in the now-started car, drives a while, replaces the ID transponder currently in the car with one he can control, and leaves.

    You quickly swab your nose and throat, and place the samples on the attachment's sensor, then step into the kitchen to make some tea while you wait. In 20 minutes, the results come back, showing a very strong likelihood that you have the seasonal flu. Your results are automatically sent to the CDC, where their algorithms verify your CID and confirm you had contact with several other people now exhibiting symptoms. An antiviral drug is prescribed for you immediately.

    In addition, your insurance company knows that you are now sick, and raises your rates accordingly. Also, you notice that when you visit ad-supported web sites, they're all pushing products to help you combat your illness.

    --
    I am officially gone from /. Long live http://www.soylentnews.com/
    1. Re:Security nightmare by Cimexus · · Score: 1

      Well it's not automatic, but my shower already allows me to punch in the exact temperature I want. I like 41 C personally.

      And it's not exactly new fangled - it's part of a gas hot water system that we had installed in the late 90s!

    2. Re:Security nightmare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      One inserted before the shower:

      You use the bathroom toilet. It does a scan of the chemicals. Luckily you were clear of marijuana since it would be an instant life sentence in the work camp [1], and as the saying goes, "there are no false positives". If the toilet did find anything, the front door would lock and the police would be present in seconds.

      However, you were unlucky on one count, the routine drug scan did detect the metabolized
      alcohol, and it did send a notice to your employer and health insurance provider [2] about that, and your pay was docked $50 due to damaging the company image.

      [1]: The population of people locked up is now ten percent of the US population, and to defray costs, inmates now work in factories for 5 centavos a day, 7 days a week. One has to be careful because every police officer gets a substational bonus if they make an arrest. Since judges work for a private company, the last time a person was found innocent of any crime was three years ago, and that was a Chinese citizen who had his government threaten tariffs.

      [2]: Failing to have health insurance also is a life sentence, so even though you had that nice suburban home, you had to sell it just to keep the $2000/week (in present dollars) policy going.

  32. Cool story bro by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    Don't quit your day job.

  33. Awful and quite possibly true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember when the future was more than just the present with a coat of varnish? Even dystopia would be better than this.

  34. If that much interconnection exists.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then it'll take an act of God to convince me that I need to be physically present at the office, instead of working remotely.

  35. sounds like crappy 50's pulp sci-fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and i thought EL-RON stoppped writing this crap when he died.

  36. CID? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

    Why would anybody bother with a CID or even fMRI when a DNA scan-and-hash will identify you to 128 bits of certainty?

    --
    SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
    1. Re:CID? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because 128 bits is kind of weak... based on the statistics I have seen on DNA, there are likely six or seven people in the world that might be a close enough match... and it is more likely than not that they will be geographically close (considering I am not Asian, I doubt I will have one of my close matches in China).

    2. Re:CID? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      There are only 7 billion people on the planet. There can, at most, if everybody lives like Bangladeshis, be 80 billion people on the planet. 128 bits is 3x10^38th, more than enough resolution to assign a DNA-based hash to EVERY unique DNA strand with no collisions.

      --
      SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
  37. that's a hideous future by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

    If that's the future, count me out.

    --
    Circle the wagons and fire inward. Entropy increases without bounds.
  38. So much bullshit by Lord+Grey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These kinds of readings irritate me. They present a wonderful picture, but only when everything goes right. When all the automated thingies in the environment can correctly anticipate your next action. When you don't do the unexpected, or the unexpected doesn't pop up somewhere in the surroundings.

    Who's life is that? Not mine. In the above scenario: 1) the alarm clock would wake me up on my day off because I forgot to notify it; 2) the Internet is down and I can't connect outside my house; 3) my arm is in a cast so making decent gestures at my desktop 'computer' is real chore, if not impossible; and 4) my wife is extremely pissed at me for not being able to fix a damn thing in our house. Then a major storm tears through the neighborhood, my roof is half torn off, rainwater gets everywhere and all the electronics go absolutely apeshit.

    Tell me what happens when things go wrong, not right. At least a little bit, to provide some much-needed reality.

    --
    // Beyond Here Lie Dragons
    1. Re:So much bullshit by dkleinsc · · Score: 2

      Relevant to this kind of thinking: "Even in the future, nothing works!" - Dark Helmet

      --
      I am officially gone from /. Long live http://www.soylentnews.com/
    2. Re:So much bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not only that, but it assumes everyone has the same values and the same technological desires.

      For me, a future in which I believe everything has "gone right", would not look anything like this. My perfect future would see people become less reliant on technology, not more.

    3. Re:So much bullshit by judoguy · · Score: 1
      A little off topic but the best story of home without maintenance:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Will_Come_Soft_Rains_(short_story)

      --
      Peace is easy to achieve, just surrender. Liberty is much harder get/keep.
    4. Re:So much bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right. Too few zombies and shotguns to be a realistic depiction of the future.

    5. Re:So much bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least a little bit, to provide some much-needed reality.
       
      What for? We know we're dealing with fiction when a Slashdotter mentions a wife.

    6. Re:So much bullshit by godrik · · Score: 1

      That piece of writing was neither very good nor very entertaining. I can recommend Cory Doctorow's writing for more realistic views of what the future (close present) might have for us. He goes in multiple direction depending on his current writing. It is most of the time very enjoyable.

      http://craphound.com/

      I just saw two new titles on his website. i know what I will read tonight! BTW, all his novels and books are released under creative commons, you can get the book in electronic format on his website.

    7. Re:So much bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watch "Brazil" for a more accurate look at where this kind of braindead bullshit thinking leads in the future. the author of TFA stopped a day before anything interesting happened. like it was the first chapter in a novel. the day following is when the revolution starts, and that is where it gets interesting. people with crude homemade detectors of EMF emanating things, computers, implanted bio-rfid chips, etc. use equally crude, but effective homemade weapons to kill police, and anyone else found supporting "the system" by knuckling under and agreeing to carry around a CID chip. once authorities who have been observing the whole thing using Patriot Drones conclude that the neighborhood has been lost, the drone is ordered to drop ordnance on the place and your cyberhamlet burns to the ground, all before your car can return from the trip you sent it on to pick up your "meds".

      To keep the unrest from spreading. as they've been doing for at least about 26 years, the government pins it on "terrorists".

      well who am i kidding? the drones in 15 years won't need orders or permission from the ground to kill people anywhere on earth. If you things are fuckt now, just wait...

    8. Re:So much bullshit by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you read it carefully you'll see it's not a utopia.. there are nods to freedom lost, and a general sense of powerlessness.

  39. Luls by neminem · · Score: 1

    Minority Report-style UI, as I've generally heard it called the past few years, is a joke. Would be great for games, and perhaps for giving presentations, but who would want it for actually doing work? Stupid people might for a few days, because they imagine it would look cool, until they actually -tried- it and realized what the rest of us already know, that it would suck for actually getting things done quickly. I have nothing against experimental UIs being, well, experimented with, but the mouse and keyboard UI has lasted this long because it -works-.

    1. Re:Luls by NJRoadfan · · Score: 1

      Try telling that to Microsoft....

    2. Re:Luls by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Or any maker of recent phones. Seriously, how come there are no keyboards past N900 and that HTC Desire that breaks after a month.

      --
      The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
    3. Re:Luls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The mouse will be replaced by gesture based UI's once they become comparable in reliability and cost to existing optical mice (the mouse being a fairly primative gesture UI itself).

      The keyboard will probably never go away, but devices not intended for heavy text entry will have emulated virtual keyboards to save space. No one in their right mind things speech or thought recognition will be a primary text entry method. Speech recognition is only really useful for limited function devices that need shared control among several users (like a car stereo). Thought control will likely only be used for limited function applications where reaction time is important and the user's attention can be fully focused on the controlled device (like games).

      The real "X-factor" is display technology. The current development path seems to be split between LCDs but in 3-d, and images projected onto the retina via laser. The practical constraint of those technologies are likely to have the most impact on futuristic computing in the next 20 years.

    4. Re:Luls by fearofcarpet · · Score: 1

      Minority Report-style UI, as I've generally heard it called the past few years, is a joke. Would be great for games, and perhaps for giving presentations, but who would want it for actually doing work? Stupid people might for a few days, because they imagine it would look cool, until they actually -tried- it and realized what the rest of us already know, that it would suck for actually getting things done quickly. I have nothing against experimental UIs being, well, experimented with, but the mouse and keyboard UI has lasted this long because it -works-.

      According to the TV, everyone talks to their phones now, you know, like in Star Trek, on the computer isn't named Computer... which is strange, because, according to Star Trek and Minority Report, gesture UIs come way before voice interaction, at which point we switch back to touch-screens... But I feel like such an idiot talking to my phone--not to mention letting everyone in earshot know what kind of nerdy nonsense I ask the Internet--that the technology is completely impractical. In fact, the only utility of voice search is when you only have one hand free, and when most Slashdotters are in that situation, they sure as hell don't want anyone to overhear their search queries.

      --
      Actually, I wrote my thesis on life experience.
  40. Realistic in that it's not a Utopia by concealment · · Score: 2

    That was an interesting vision of the future. A couple thoughts:

    (1) It's a vision of hell. I prefer solitude and real experience to the social networking world. What about someone who wants off the grid because the grid is a plastic substitute for real experience?

    (2) Bonus points to the writer for not claiming that social problems were non-existent. The freeways get hacked, there's been a nuclear war, the middle east is still trouble, and China still wants to control Europe.

    It shies away from Utopian thinking enough that I can believe it, but it also shows an automated world that I don't think I want. In that, it's an excellent brain-stimulating piece of writing.

    1. Re:Realistic in that it's not a Utopia by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, I don't see much in this version of the future that isn't just as well handled by throwing a switch, or turning off an alarm clock or booting a computer. ZOMG! You mean people used to not have the Internets do like everything? How did they survive? Driverless transport is going to be awesome until the first thousand car thousand death mega pileup. Probably make a mess all over my lawn, dammit!

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    2. Re:Realistic in that it's not a Utopia by busyqth · · Score: 1

      China doesn't want to control Europe.

  41. Nothing will change by Russ1642 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'll probably still be driving the same car I have today. My computer will be a little faster, and it'll be running Windows 11. Other than that I really can't see my day being so different than it is now. Well, hopefully I'll get a new dishwasher sometime but I doubt it'll be networked.

    1. Re:Nothing will change by avandesande · · Score: 2

      ... and it will be the year of the Linux desktop!

      --
      love is just extroverted narcissism
    2. Re:Nothing will change by swanzilla · · Score: 1

      Well, hopefully I'll get a new dishwasher sometime but I doubt it'll be networked.

      A man can dream.

    3. Re:Nothing will change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am a Linux user, but seriously I don't see much future in to it. Even if Valve is doing stuff for Linux.

  42. tl;dr by mcmonkey · · Score: 2

    (42 degrees, you remind yourself — the transition to metric still isn't second nature, after almost two full years.)

    I stopped right there.

    If everything is so computerized and automated in the future, why would there be a transition to metric? All the internal calculations could be Celsius, Meters, and Grams, but I could set my devices to display Fahrenheit, Yards, and Ounces.

  43. What's with all the futurist articles coming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the editors are just reposting the same old bullshit, I also will.

  44. Hmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    15 years ago:
    - Was in college, playing around with Intel Pentium computers with black and white CRT monitors.
    - Was watching p0rn on CDs.

    Now:
    - Working, playing around with smart phones, with ARM core processors.
    - Watch p0rn on my smartphone.

    15 years from now:
    - Still working, playing around with something like a cross between a Google project glass and a Sony Personal 3D Viewer
    - Still watch p0rn, but through the above said device.
    - Getting ready to retire in the next 10 years.
    - Heavily regretting that my whole life has been one wank party!

    1. Re:Hmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what, I am making changes.

      15 years from now, I want to leave a legacy that my grandkids can be/will be proud of....

    2. Re:Hmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      15 years from now, I want to leave a legacy

      "Used Tissue Mountain"

    3. Re:Hmmmm... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Was in college, playing around with Intel Pentium computers with black and white CRT monitors.
      Wow, 15 years ago, I had a 21" super VGA monitor. Yes, It was expensive, but definitely available. Now I can get a 27" IPS for the same price. I am trying to remember when I last used a black and white monitor. We had them in the computer lab at school in 1989, but my computer back in the dorm room had a CGA monitor. As a matter of fact, my very first computer had a color monitor, and that was 30 years ago.

      --
      If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
  45. Baloney, Fifteen years from now I'll be 75 by RotateLeftByte · · Score: 1

    If I'm not pushing up the daisies, I'll be totally 'off grid' on an island well away from 'stuff'

    No mobile Phone. No Computer

    Yeah!

    {been writing code for 40 years}

    --
    I'd rather be riding my '63 Triumph T120.
    1. Re:Baloney, Fifteen years from now I'll be 75 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Due to the pensions crash in the year before your retirement due date, you are forced to continue working until your death day.

      Luckily you can do it from home in "Motual VB" (Motion Controlled Visual Basic) on your 5' computer monitor.

      Except for the arthritis.

  46. I offer a counter prediction by crazyjj · · Score: 1

    15 years from now, things will basically be about the same. There will only be a few differences in tech and social fads, none of which were predicted by this article.

    --
    What political party do you join when you don't like Bible-thumpers *or* hippies?
    1. Re:I offer a counter prediction by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      I'll second this but with one addon: The few things that are radically different will be from applications of technology that will seem completely obvious in hind-sight but which nobody will have predicted. (Except for possibly one speculative fiction writer who gets lucky with a vague prediction.)

      --
      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
    2. Re:I offer a counter prediction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am going to guess we all will end up with heart plugs a la Lynch's rendition of Dune.

  47. 108 degrees?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    108 degrees for the shower? Do you want your skin to melt off?

    1. Re:108 degrees?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps this is on the Kelvin scale?

  48. Same Concept circa 1968 by snooz_crash · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of the James R. Berry article from Modern Mechanix, November 1968, describing life in 2008. Interesting to see what they got right and wrong. Still missing my jetpack...

    --
    ceci n'est pas un sig
  49. 42 Celsius by Matt.Battey · · Score: 1

    Now I know this is crazy! Next well be all told we are 175 centimeters tall and it's a 15 km trip into work! SI units, in Canada maybe! Viva British Imperial Measure!

  50. I remember this story! by Guru80 · · Score: 1

    Same one I heard in 2000, 1990, and 1980....I'm still waiting on the hover board, personally.

  51. Oh my god! by Bieeanda · · Score: 1

    Haselton ate Soulskill and absorbed his passwords!

  52. quotas for water and tracking of everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup looks like you libs won

  53. Re:SRA Readers by retroworks · · Score: 1

    I think this was from the "Aqua" reader.

    --
    Gently reply
  54. meat vs poison by swframe · · Score: 1

    I work from home. Many of the events, in the article, don't happen for me. I don't wake up until I want to. The only tech I care about relate to health care and food production. The luxury tech I would like to see make it are google glasses and low-cost high-speed global wi-fi. The tech that might make a huge difference to me is the d-wave quantum computer applied to AI. I suspect we need another 1K to 100K increase in cpu performance to create AI that will replace me in the workforce. I am not sure we can get there in 15 years.

  55. Horrible dystopia!!! by lxs · · Score: 1

    Fifteen years from now, your alarm goes off at 7:30 AM

    I stopped reading right there.

  56. Hey! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

    Wasn't that an episode of Futurama?

    --
    The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  57. Chatty Alarm Clocks and Other Things I Don't Want. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have absolutely NO desire for my alarm clock to talk to my shower OR anything else.

    Mr. Alarm Clock best keep his mouth shut or he will "Sleeping With Da Fishes."

  58. Fifteen years from now by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    Fifteen years from now, your alarm goes off at 7:30 AM, pulling you out of a dead sleep

    It had better not! I retire in 2014 (if not earlier).

    the loose sensory netting inside your pillow will keep the noise going until it detects alpha waves in drastically higher numbers than theta waves

    In a ten dollar clock?

    Sighing, you roll out of bed, pull your Computing ID (CID) card from the alarm unit, and stumble out of the bedroom. Pausing briefly to drop your CID into your desktop computer

    Networking will be obsolete? That CID sounds like one of the removable drives in STOS that kind of looked like cassettes. I don't have to log into my Linux computer now, why should I have to in fifteen years?

    the transition to metric still isn't second nature

    The transition has started with liquids, but I'd be willing to bet large sums of money that we'll still be using farenheight in fifteen years.

    You have it set to download in basic 8K, eschewing the 3D

    "3D" (which isn't really 3D) is a fad that has come and gone for over six decades. Every generation thinks their generation is the 3D generation; it comes and goes every 20-30 years.

    At a spoken command, your TV turns on and begins playback.

    Doubtful, becaude I'll be blasting the stereo like I do now.

    you state your name to authorize payment for the episode

    Bullshit, I don't pay for TV now, why would I agree to in fifteen years? OTA or Pirate Bay.

    pull your CID from the desktop, and put it into your phone

    Wifi and bluetooth will be gone?

    As the door closes behind you, you absently wave your phone by the doorbell panel. The embedded RFID chip triggers the locks and security system

    Again, why a card? The door should know you're leaving, and by then the stereo and TV will be off. Say the word "lock" and the door locks itself. Why make things harder than they are now?

    Sorry, but this is nothing like life will be in 15 years. It never, ever is how fortune tellers say it will be.

    1. Re:Fifteen years from now by lxs · · Score: 1

      I think I paid $200 for my brainwave sensing alarm clock last year. It's not impossible that the price will come down to next to nothing in fourteen years. It's already down to $150.

    2. Re:Fifteen years from now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It had better not! I retire in 2014 (if not earlier).

      Fifteen years from now, you are dead.

      FTFY.

    3. Re:Fifteen years from now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing brainwave sensing will end up having as far as I hope, is a set of Necomimi cat ears.

  59. 15 years from now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we'll be able to dupe the post.
    cause i saw the same thing 15 years ago, and 30 years ago as well. the names change but the story is the same.

  60. if that sort of Distopia is what awaits me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...I may off myself sooner than originally anticipated.

  61. CID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whats all the nonsense with the CID? I would think some sort of single login (government mandated maybe even) for everything. No CID junk. SD card slots are already on their way out.

  62. I would prefer an alternate version of this story by Lieutenant_Dan · · Score: 1

    "A Day in the Life of a Foxconn employee, NOW"

    or

    "A Day in the Life of Tori Spelling, 1992"

    --
    Wearing pants should always be optional.
  63. Sugar tax and the CID by menno_h · · Score: 2

    The population will never accept a tax on food (isn't there something about that in the constitution?), especially if the food in question contains sugar or caffeine.
    That CID is plain scary, and there is no way anyone is going to allow that to happen.

    --
    AccountKiller
    1. Re:Sugar tax and the CID by mlts · · Score: 1

      We here in the US are one 9/11-like incident from that happening.

    2. Re:Sugar tax and the CID by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      Some foods in the UK are subject to VAT, but only highly processed pre-prepared meals I think.

      Don't you pay sales tax on food in some American states?

      --
      Drill baby drill - on Mars
    3. Re:Sugar tax and the CID by citylivin · · Score: 1

      All prepared foods are taxed (in canada anyways). I could easily see them judging a sugar drink as "prepared" food. After all, alcohol is taxed. I pay 3 separate taxes on alcohol from a retail store. Of course you can homebrew, and since that is considered a non prepared foodstuffs, there is no tax on that. So there are always ways around it for those so inclined. Its pretty easy to homebrew gingerale for instance.

      --
      As a potential lottery winner, I totally support tax cuts for the wealthy
    4. Re:Sugar tax and the CID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      prepared foods are taxed here. walk into the grocery and buy bread, cheese and meat, then assemble a sandwich and there's no tax, walk into a restaurant and order the same already made and it's taxed however.

  64. CID Card? What is this, 1970? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Sighing, you roll out of bed, pull your Computing ID (CID) card from the alarm unit, and stumble out of the bedroom. Pausing briefly to drop your CID into your desktop computer,"

    A card? Are you kidding? You'll beep your wrist chip over a reader, or not even need to do so because the biometric system with 100% national coverage, including in buildings, will ID you to the "Center Station" which will send down the commands to trigger all the devices mentioned

  65. Why this is dead wrong. by sidragon.net · · Score: 1

    Think back, 15 years ago, to what you were doing the first day you read Slashdot.

  66. Advice to the author by trevc · · Score: 2

    Don't give up your day job.

  67. Tipping the Robot Repair Man? by Marc_Hawke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If tipping doesn't go away the same time waiters do, we have a SERIOUSLY messed up society. I hope that was just a really lame joke.

    Tipping is institutionalized bribing to convince a person to treat you better. The robots will be programmed to treat everyone the same, and you will NEVER meet the repairman.

    Also, it seems super lame to slide that card in and out of everything all the time. Especially when he pulled it out of his phone just to pay the bill. That was by far the weakest point of his little fantasy.

    --
    --Welcome to the Realm of the Hawke--
    1. Re:Tipping the Robot Repair Man? by KiloByte · · Score: 2

      No civilised country has a culture of tipping waiters anymore.

      --
      The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
    2. Re:Tipping the Robot Repair Man? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's more likely that the phone itself will act as the "card" using a range of NFC tech like bluetooth and RFID to interface with other devices.

    3. Re:Tipping the Robot Repair Man? by mlts · · Score: 2

      Most civilized countries, being a waitperson is a profession to itself. That is why most of Europe has a "gratuity included" sign for their cafes and restaurants.

      I'd like to see that in the US. Charge the 20% extra on food, and pay the waitstaff a living salary. That way, tips actually would be for good service, as opposed to something one has to do as a social norm.

    4. Re:Tipping the Robot Repair Man? by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      No civilized country pays wait staff less than the minimum wage making them rely on tips, either. Not sure which is the chicken and which is the egg here, though.

    5. Re:Tipping the Robot Repair Man? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tipping is institutionalized bribing to convince a person to treat you better.

      Funny, I've always thought that tipping was more of an excuse to screw your employees on wages and then blame it on their customers or them.
      Now, I realize it's all about me, and I should be angry about this. Fuck you pizza guy; I'm sticking it to The Man by not tipping you from now on!

    6. Re:Tipping the Robot Repair Man? by PeanutButterBreath · · Score: 1

      Tipping is institutionalized bribing to convince a person to treat you better.

      If that were true, tipping would be done up front so the staff would know how to treat you.

      Tipping is an opportunity for you to treat someone else better, at your own discretion. It is an opportunity to enjoy a dining experience without signing on to the exploitation of un- or semi-skilled labor.

    7. Re:Tipping the Robot Repair Man? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the iPhone doesn't have NFC, so it's obviously not a useful technology!

  68. local tv storage? by wijnands · · Score: 0

    Local storage of a TV episode? The US running on metric? People working in an actual office? Yeah right! In 15 years time there won't be much real offices more, rather dynamically picked meeting offices for ad-hoc work.

  69. Sex? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No sex in the future? You don't say .....

    1. Re:Sex? by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      No sex in the future?
      How absurd! We've already figured out that millions of fake friends are better than a couple of real ones. Surely in 15 years, we'll be bragging about our millions of virtual sex partners while some lame-o nerds are out there having old fashioned non-virtual sex with just a couple of hot, real girls.

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  70. Not Very Accurate by PastTense · · Score: 3, Interesting

    First I don't understand why you went to the office. You simply telecommute from home. In fact it's an exceeding rare event for any knowledge worker to go to the office; the few people going to work are the ones involved with physical objects.

    Likewise I don't understand why you would go to a restaurant and this robot server. You have your own local meal preparation unit in your house (and there is one in the office for the few times someone shows up there). People only go to restaurants where they are served by real people as a special event. It's a nostalgia type thing.

    But the event you remember the most of this day was getting a birthday card from your great grand-mother. You haven't handled physical paper in months--but she is very old-fashioned and sends you this card.

  71. Lots of problems with this future world. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A world where you can't choose to shut an alarm clock off and it shares an automated password from the shower isn't one I would like very much. Computing ID, no thanks. I don't want to have to be keeping up with something like that. Isn't that what the internet is for anyway, syncing state across devices? Metric? Not going to happen. Water quota? If we have the other technology mentioned then we have the technology to provide enough water to meet our needs. Why am I going to torrent something and then pay for it? Why wouldn't the show provider just embed advertisements right into the torrent like they can today? Why am I waving my phone all over the place? Shouldn't it have NFC? Especially if there is a fMRI machine around. Can't I just speak to things like I did with the TV? BTW, I don't want to be speaking to my work computer unless I have a private office. In fact, why did I even have to go into work if I could do everything from home? Looking at my directs screens (assuming without their immediate knowledge) is just creepy. We could do that today and don't so I don't think we will be doing that in 15 years. Planned orbital communities in 15 years? We will be lucky to still have the ISS in 15 years at our current pace (the author even mentions possible budget cuts to NASAs replacement). Server robot... in 15 years people will still be cheaper to employee for such tasks. Cars will still require a person to be present. And one final thought, my phone should be nothing more than an ear bud or some such and the screen could be replaced with a heads up display in my glasses or on surrounding surfaces.

  72. No people? by FictionPimp · · Score: 1

    Apparently, in the future we all live a life of complete isolation.. This guy went a whole day without speaking to anyone.

    1. Re:No people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tells you a lot about Soulskill doesn't it.

      Sounds like a living hell to me.

  73. This is News for Nerds how? by Picass0 · · Score: 1

    There's not even a link to an article. This looks like Soulskill took a creative writing project and threw it on the front page.

  74. Human Interactions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I right that at no point do you actually interact face to face with another human in the future? Eff that.

  75. Holdover from the French Revolution by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1
    The Metric System is one of may reforms from the French Revolution. Can't have people in the U.S. adopt anything from France, now, can we?

    There was also a Revolutionary (decimal) calendar. It had 12 months but with new names, but weeks were 10-days long, days had 10 hours, hours had 100 minutes -- didn't catch on. I think the one holdover is "Lobster Thermidor" -- Thermidor, was one of the Revolutionary months.

    1. Re:Holdover from the French Revolution by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Today is Pungenday, the 64th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3178

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    2. Re:Holdover from the French Revolution by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      The Metric System is one of may reforms from the French Revolution. Can't have people in the U.S. adopt anything from France, now, can we?

      Ha!

      Time to return the Statue of Liberty I guess.... and half the English language.

      It'd also be nice if the US used SI units.

  76. one thing he didn't do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One thing he didn't do is read Slashdot.

    So at least it's partly realistic.

  77. The Drought Famine by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    Isn't that what we will be doing starting this Fall?

    1. Re:The Drought Famine by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      Isn't that what we will be doing starting this Fall?

      Perhaps in Soviet Amerika, in the free world we'll be lying on a beach in Cuba.

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  78. Desktop Computer? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Puh-lease

  79. friends? family? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So in 15 years we have no interaction with other people? This guy wakes up alone, works alone, eats lunch alone, goes to sleep alone.

  80. Socialist nightmare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is terrible future you envision. Your future sounds like something out of "The Leviathan" or "Utopia". Soda tax, water rationing, municipal gigabit internet, CID card tracking everything you do. What about personal liberty, free choice, personal property rights... If I want to take a 20 min shower then I can and I will pay for it with my labor. My labor is translated to currency which is my personal property. I will give up some of my personal property to get what I want.... I NICE HOT LONG SHOWER. and have some soda with my cereal. This is a horrible existence and I pray that we never ever get to your socialist utopia.

  81. So many elephants in that room... by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 1

    Wake up and smell the coffee, guys.

    Fifteen years from now food shortages, triggered by the combination of climate change and population explosion, will impact significantly on even advanced western societies. Crops will fail widely, on a regular basis. The cost of food will be relatively a lot more than it is now, and the availability of it a lot less dependable. Cereals in the morning? Don't depend on it. We could, of course, limit climate change if we drastically limited our consumption of energy, but our politicians don't have the bottle to do that, so we probably won't. Which means your shower probably will come on automatically at the comfortable temperature you prefer.

    But I'm very sceptical about whether most knowledge workers will get in a car and drive to work. With ubiquitous networks, why drive anywhere? You can work equally effectively wherever you happen to be. You probably work in your own home, or go round the corner to a local cafe/shared workspace. And I doubt anyone will have a screen on their desk. We'll all wear information displays discreetly integrated with glasses or even contact lenses, which will simulate an effectively infinite 3d display when needed, and will simply fade out to give us a clear view of the world when the data display is not needed. Some form of wearable device, probably built into your clothing, will provide local compute power, but will function most of the time as a thin client onto servers elsewhere. You won't own any special purpose information devices - no phone, no MP3 player, no television, no playstation, no ebook reader, no wristwatch, no GPS, certainly no laptop or desktop computer. Your local device will provide you with all the functionality of all those things and more. Younger people won't use a physical keyboard, mouse or pen to input data. Muttering in a shared workspace will probably be considered uncool (although your device will of course respond intelligently to voice input), but if you simulate the motions of writing with a pen or typing on a keyboard, your device will interpret your gestures as though you had written or typed or spoken. Older people may still prefer to use legacy input devices. And it's possible that increasingly we will have direct interface between our brains and our devices, although I think that's probably beyond the fifteen year horizon.

    As for having a hardware token as proxy for your identity, I really don't see that surviving in the medium term. Some form of biometric identity will be more convenient and much more secure. If your interface with the network is built into your glasses, then it seems reasonable to use an iris scan.

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    1. Re:So many elephants in that room... by bwohlgemuth · · Score: 1

      Fifteen years from now food shortages, triggered by the combination of climate change and population explosion, will impact significantly on even advanced western societies. Crops will fail widely, on a regular basis. The cost of food will be relatively a lot more than it is now, and the availability of it a lot less dependable.

      You mean the same crop shortages that were going to faminize the 1980's...or the 1990's...or...

      There is little chance of that happening in the US, come live out here in the corn belt and even with the OMG, IT'S THE DUST BOWL ALL OVAR AGAIN!!!! and you will see that farmers will grow crops that are drought AND reasonably flood resistant (and with easy to install drainage tile...the latter is moot anyway!).

      People also tend to forget that countries like India and China use manual farming techniques since there is a LARGE amount of unskilled labor there who is willing to do the work cheaper than a gallon of petrol. Once wages rise faster than the cost of a gallon of gas....then you will see modernization of those agri-businesses and yields will substantially climb.

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    2. Re:So many elephants in that room... by mlts · · Score: 1

      It is happening. In the past several years, corn production has mainly changed from food to ethanol, which has spiked the price of it. It sounds humorous, but pork prices are spiking (thus the mention of a bacon shortage.) Milk prices have gone up sharply.

      Quality of food is a lot worse than it was in the past.

      As for petrochemicals, we have hit peak oil... and there is only so much to go around, so when it comes to burning it in a car versus using it for fertilizer, one can guess which will win out.

      Malthus can never be deterred; only delayed.

    3. Re:So many elephants in that room... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most workers, knowledge and otherwise, will continue to go to work because the people who pay insist that they do. Look at the top tech companies. Their workers don't work form home. Heck, they provide cleaning services, daycare and gourmet meals to keep them at work longer. Why? Because they're smart enough to know that if left to their own devices most people will spend their time on /. rather than on working. The story (bad as it is on most points) shows 100% monitoring of direct reports by the protagonist manager. Most people won't work at home because managers don't trust their employees, nor should they.
      This can be contrasted with self-employed workers or contractors who work on a fee per job basis as opposed to a per hour or salary basis. They only get paid if they perform so of course they're going to put in the time.

  82. Right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So in 15 years we've all become so wealthy that money means nothing to us because instead of doing things the simple, easy, inexpensive way (alarm clock on the other side of the room for example) we have to spend thousands of dollars to create elaborate high tech rube goldberg machines to manage our daily lives...

  83. Lots of people dogging this fun story, but why? by DRAGONWEEZEL · · Score: 1

    A lot of this is actually happening now. (except for me the CID is my phone).

    The computer I work on goes into "Standby" when I'm done w/ it. Allowing all I was working on to be right where I left off. My Cell phone has an alarm app that makes me do something to shut it off. I can't talk to my t.v. but I can say Navigate to Work, and get the bet route.

    Also, using "TASKER", my phone recognizes where I am, and performs necessary tasks. As I leave my house, it sets auto brightness on and enables keyguard, and turns on GPS. (just in case I'm not in my car).
    When I get in my car, it turns off wifi, set's Keyguard off, turns up the media volume to 11, locks in my car dock screens, and fires up pandora. As I leave the car it turns wifi on, kills pandora disables GPS, and set's the keyguard. When I arrive at work, it goes into silent mode jacks up the brightness, and disables GPS & bluetooth if it's still enabled if by chance I arrived via vanpool. Even when I travel to different work sites, based on WIFI SSID, which is the same for each site, it performs these functions.

    When I leave work, it set's Bluetooth on, and jacks the ringer up.
    As I arrive home, it disables key-guard, turns off GPS, sets WIFI on automatically, sets autobright, say's "Welcome Home" Tells me my battery level, and turns all ringers to max. Finally, as I lay to sleep, it automatically drops the brightness down low, and switches to silent mode.

    Best part? If I forget to plug in my phone, and the battery reaches 5%, the phone turns off, leaving me enough reserve power to make a few emergency calls if necessary.

    This didn't take any programming knowledge except order of operations.

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    1. Re:Lots of people dogging this fun story, but why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool story bro. Now go die alone somewhere else.

    2. Re:Lots of people dogging this fun story, but why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm glad you thought this guy's story was cool! Since you post here, I know you're alone too. We can both die alone here.. wait, will we be alone then? That makes us together huh?

      Shit, I violated the policy that says don't feed the trolls.

  84. Metric in another 15 years? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    That would only be about 60 years behind schedule...

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  85. I would have thought 15 years in the future by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 1

    That appending "in bed" to the end of every sentence in that article will no longer be a joke. I would have also thought that the term "desktop computer" would have the same quaint ring to it as "microcomputer" does now.

  86. In fifteen years? by SYSS+Mouse · · Score: 1

    People in Hong Kong are already using their Octopus Card to pay for meals and as security passcard.

  87. So much Energy Wasted by Bucc5062 · · Score: 2

    The author lost me at "driving to work". In fifteen years. with that type of technology, why would this guy, or most IT/professional workers need to drive into work. Very high speed networks (wireless), HD style displays, super computers in a box indicates the ability to work from home (or any where) and still stay connected to co-workers and/or management. Commuting is a waste of energy and time. Face to face need not be lost, just managed.

    The rest I found not very realistic (for 15 years). Sure, Mr. Marketing guy can afford all those toys, but many more folk cannot and what will their lives look like...about the same as today. If we are still around in 100 years, then I could see that more connected world

    (man I am getting cynical, when did I stop dreaming (sigh))

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    1. Re:So much Energy Wasted by bwohlgemuth · · Score: 1

      PHB's are the only reason why we keep building offices for a sizable percentage of the population. Yes, you will still need to see warm bodies for a variety of things, but in reality office jobs can get done with a variety of current tools and probably more efficiently without having to pay for large buildings, parking lots, etc. Yes, businesses will need a place of "business" for meetings (there is a net-benefit for face to face/socializing/etc in a controlled environment) but for the rest.....ehhh, crack that work/life benefit up to 11 and have my people login when they can and work their asses off for me while I don't have to pay to keep a building empty 13 hours a day and 24 hours on holidays/weekends.

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    2. Re:So much Energy Wasted by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      I don't know, it looks to me like in most sectors people will still have to commute ... not everyone is in IT:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States_by_sector

      Mining: 15 years from now, there will be moderately increased mining by remote-controlled devices but most mining-related jobs will still require going to work.
      Utilities: 15 years from now, most jobs in utilities will still require going to work.
      Construction: Automated construction will only be in its relative infancy - most construction work will still require moving the fuck around.
      Manufacturing: Even with increased automation, I can't see that most manufacturing jobs will be telecommuting-based in 15 years.
      Wholesale: Not that many telecommuting opportunities, except maybe some admin jobs
      Retail: Likewise
      Transportation and warehousing: Likewise
      Information: OK, telecommuting applicable
      Finance and insurance: Yes, increased telecommuting possible
      Real estate: Requires moving around
      etc. etc.

  88. ads? by vlm · · Score: 1

    After a couple hours, the advertising campaign your team is working on is nearing completion.

    Where do people watch "ads"?

    Certainly no point in putting up billboards for self driving cars, the AI isn't going to care.

    I already aggressively automatically filter media.

    Some sort of product placement thing?

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    1. Re:ads? by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      Certainly no point in putting up billboards for self driving cars, the AI isn't going to care

      Remember it's an advertising company, Google, that are pushing automated driving. No we see why .. your automated car will be plastered with screens blaring ads at you.

  89. No way. by s0nicfreak · · Score: 2

    there is no way I will get up at 7:30.

  90. Re:I would prefer an alternate version of this sto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Foxconn:

    "The Air Siren promptly jolts you from your wooden plan bed at 4:30am along with the other 19 Chinese peasants that share the 4mx4m room. The stench of sweat, human waste, and tears stings your nostril as you supress your gag reflex and line up behind the sink to wait your turn to splash some tepid brown water on your waste."

    "You are rushed down the five flights of stairs to the canteen where you present your meal pass. Due to low production quota for the last two weeks, your dietery intake has been reduced by 20% in order to motivate you. Today is rice with breadcrumbs and bacon shavings. THat was also last night's supper. You sit at a table with 50 other workers and quickly eat up while avoiding awkward eye contact. Some individuals talk. The manager refers to those who talk and eat as "lunatics" and are demoted to menial tasks like picking up metal pieces and taking them to recycling dump. One of your room-mates was assigned to this task. He left to take on a musical career in Seoul under the acronym of PSY. You momentarily wonder if he is doing well."

  91. Wait, what? by chinton · · Score: 1

    You mean in 15 years I still won't have my flying car?

    1. Re:Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or implants considering that DARPA is already testing their new arm prosthesis and fiber optic based B.M.I implant for military amputees that will need it...

      http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-09/darpa-funds-neurophotonics-center-develop-fiber-optic-interface-nervous-system

      http://www.fastcompany.com/1725799/darpas-mind-controlled-prosthetic-arm-could-be-market-four-years

    2. Re:Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know dude, they have been expecting some pretty awesome things for post 2000.

  92. So many absurdities by JDG1980 · · Score: 4, Informative

    the transition to metric still isn't second nature, after almost two full years

    About 25 years ago, when I was in elementary school, we were taught the metric system and told that the US would probably be transitioning Real Soon Now. When I told my parents, they laughed and said that they were told the same thing when they were in school.

    Transition to metric in the US? Never gonna happen.

    You're vaguely aware that the car isn't going to the freeway today â" there must have been a hack-cident â" and you feel irritation yet again at the arbitrarily low speed limits, wishing there was a way to ignore them.

    First off, what kind of dumbass would make a driverless car that can be hacked from the outside? The worst an intruder without physical access to the vehicle should be able to do is jam GPS, and even then a well-designed system should be able to use cached map data.

    Secondly, the reason speed limits are set arbitrarily low is so the cops can collect revenue from drivers. In a world of all driverless cars, speeding tickets go away and so does the rationale for these limits. With drivers (voters) complaining and the cops and local governments no longer raking in ticket money, raising the limits becomes a political no-brainer.

    Walking into to your office, you drop your phone into its dock and flip on the display, thus interacting with the only two objects on your desk. The display, nearly five feet across (1.5 meters, you mean) scans your CID and instantly restores the projects you were working on yesterday. You notice a handful of button icons are different than they were before. There must have been an OS update overnight.

    Good thing you're in advertising because I can't imagine anyone trying to get any real work done this way. The truth is that the desktop/laptop PC isn't going anywhere. It's being supplemented, not replaced. Tablets and phones are consumption devices. And no sensible IT department is going to let a third party vendor change user interfaces overnight with no time for training. That's a recipe for disaster. Whoever wrote this knows nothing about how corporate (or even small business) IT works.

    The local police force has been tasked with controlling wireless transmissions, and they're being run ragged trying to construct monitoring stations and conduct wardriving patrols with limited manpower. Nobody is willing to take chances after last year's nuclear incident.

    Is the premise here that everyone forgets everything they know about computer security in the next 15 years? Who exposed a nuclear system to the public Internet to the extent that some idiot could hack it via a WIRELESS connection?

    soda is a rare treat these days, because of the tax

    This kind of crap is very popular among a certain sector of policy wonks, but it will never happen because it's absolute political poison. No one who cares about re-election will propose it.

    1. Re:So many absurdities by asdbffg · · Score: 1

      First off, what kind of dumbass would make a driverless car that can be hacked from the outside? The worst an intruder without physical access to the vehicle should be able to do is jam GPS, and even then a well-designed system should be able to use cached map data.

      Try BMW, for starters.

  93. My Take-away by kiriath · · Score: 1

    From this is this:

    You mean to tell me in 15 years we'll still have these silly patent squabbles?

    F M L

    1. Re:My Take-away by kiriath · · Score: 1

      Even further:

      The patent squabbles will make absolutely none of this a reality.

      Except maybe the massive tracking portion, but that will only be accessible by the government..

  94. Doesn't sound very original... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    it reads like the beginning of a Stainless Steel Rat story.

  95. Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In a moment, I will close this computer and go home. I won't use a flying car, but while I'm in the elevator down, I'll grab a small, touch-screened computer from my pocket. This computer is connected to a global information network and I'll just enter my destination and tell it to grab my current location from Global Positioning System, after which it'll connect to an online service that immediately calculates fastest way to reach my destination, tells me what bus stop to go to, when the bus (which broadcasts its location in real time) will be there and so on.

    When I get home, I will open one of my several computers, perhaps order (and pay for) some food with a couple of clicks of a button. Then, I'll spend an hour or two relaxing by watching an episode of The Daily Show in high definition from other side of an ocean and the going to Youtube and watch a couple of people who've became famous by recording themselves play computer games and chat to each other (Yogscast channel is quite entertaining). After that, I'll get into studying (nearly finished my engineering degree but a couple of tests left) and if I'll experience any difficulties, I will either "google" (It's amazing that something that complex has became so ordinary) or fire up Khan Academy.

    Those couple of hours of ordinary middle-class-ish life aside... We live in an era when unmanned aerial vehicles are constantly on the air in warzones, our cars speak out loud and tell us how to get where we want to go, constant access to massive information network has changed how we spend our time, interact with people, participate in society and access news... The advances in medical research are just mind-boggling... A man-made object just left the solar system! Hell, I'm only 23 but the technological progress during the last 10 years has been amazing. Every couple of days a new set of news provides me with that lovely "Holy shit, I'm living in the future" realization.

    So... yeah. I wouldn't change the technological progress we actually had to the one people thought we would have.

  96. that's never gonna happen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only thing I see happening in there is the audible alarm shut off. The rest is rubbish.

  97. Maybe it's a flash drive? by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 1

    I was thinking maybe the card was some sort of X-gen flash drive/SIM card combo, part of the ubiquitous computing experience of the future. So even if biometric systems are the norm already, you don't expect your contacts/desktop configuration/etc to be wetwired into your brain?

  98. Retro future by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    This is the sort of prediction I'd expect for 2012 if made in 1997. Really no thought given to the technologies that have been invented this century, except possibly bittorrent - which is a short term measure that will become substantially more specialised when the media industry works out how to sell us downloads.

  99. Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    unless soulskill is 5 years old. this has got to be a joke.. 15 years is such a short time.. half of the people reading slashdot will still be virgins by then, food will still be shitty, so will medical care, you will have the same piece of shit car you own now, and be working the same shitty IT job for your 4% a year increase...

  100. cool story bro... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    needed more dragons...

  101. Oops, science may be against your prediction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recall that I learned somewhere that speech is one of the last things to "wake-up" in your brain. Having an alarm clock trigger by voice commands is very impractical.

  102. Future? what about now? by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    We are more isolated than ever and technology is a major factor driving it. tweets are not legit interaction; video phone is much better... but that is annoying, leave me a video message... and I'll reply with audio later because I look like a mess... that is if I don't tweet because I'm driving or watching a movie...

    The story is purely based upon predicted technological advances. Politics is the biggest factor in life, big or small. It is not likely that will happen because human politics will slow, speed up, or warp it all as the tech progresses. The advances in psychology and the tech to aid in applying it will likely render Democracy out of date as it becomes even easier to have working control over the voting populace and we are experiencing that TODAY already. If we are not properly trained and prepared we will only end up slaves who believe they are free and believe they inherently can think on their own without proper preparation/training.

    The end of the American Empire is here and we have about 8 years left of transition as it comes to pass. The impact of this will have a huge global impact; greater than what our banksters have already done to the world - which is still going on as it's ripples shake fragile systems around the planet.

    We may have cell phones instead of computers; because we can't afford to buy desktops. Those are for 1st world nations.

    fyi: I do not own a cell phone.

  103. Problem with all these authentication cards and ch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hopefully we will migrate to a thumprint system or something similar. An active directory like structure that was keyed to thumprints/handprints/retina scans or something similar would make all these cards, rfid chips and more redundant. ALso you couldn't lose them, and it would replace the need for most passwords.

    I want to live in a futer that is simpler.

  104. Hilarious by Alioth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This reads a lot like those future predictions written in 1979 about life in the year 2000... which were hilariously wrong too, perhaps except for one coincidental detail, which in reality turned out to be much more powerful/better/slick than the 1979 prediction reckoned.

    I suspect my alarm clock in 15 years will still be the late 1970s clock radio with its green vacuum fluorescent display. I also suspect that there's a pretty decent chance my ride to work will be a bicycle, rather than a car, due to the relentless increase in energy costs.

    1. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm... Does your "green fluorescent display" fade after a while or keep being as bright as when the lights were turned off? If the latter, check the manufacturer and date closely _without_ opening the clock. There still exist radium dial clocks in the wild and although an excellent solution to being able to see the dial all night, they tend to raise the local radon and general background radiation levels.

      A 1920's version of our future would have these thousand-year light sources being used everywhere.

    2. Re:Hilarious by tacokill · · Score: 1

      I also suspect that there's a pretty decent chance my ride to work will be a bicycle, rather than a car

      That sucks for you. So because your country (and mine) can't come up with a reasonable energy policy, you have to live like a late 1950's Chinese worker. Ok.....and you are not outraged at this?

      I don't know what state you live in but where I live, even the poor have better transportation than bikes. Is it possible that the people you've entrusted to govern you have put you in this position? I ask because it's not a lack of energy that is forcing you into this position. We have plenty of "energy" -- nat gas, crude, coal, nuke, etc. However, you specifically cite cost as the main issue.

      I want to know why you think it costs so much? Followup: is this cost worth it for what you are getting out of the deal?

    3. Re:Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your mental well-being depends on getting a certain amount of physical exercise every day. This was caused by a million years of human evolution and it didn't just go away because we invented cars and desks.

  105. After 15 years... by gef7 · · Score: 1

    ...and when the financial meltdown has touched many if not most, I will be again in Greece with a fishing line (iRod), trying to check if the Med sea can still feed me. 15 centuries before or later, it's all the same stuff really!

  106. No way by Coeurderoy · · Score: 1

    I'll let my buttler handle all that s**t

    And I do not need a car, I walk to my office (with a stop at my café where a human is loaning me the newspaper and bring me some breakfast...

    1. Re:No way by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

      Aside from the excess of detail in the story that will doubtlessly be stale within a year, my main criticism is that this sounds like 1950s sci fi, just updated with more recent technology. The implicit obsession with everything being done by machines at the expense of human labor is a ludicrous Jetsons-era fantasy. A robotic waiter at a local lunch joint? That would imply large-scale displacement of unskilled labor, therefore widespread unemployment, therefore social disruption, and therefore the protagonist would not likely have such a a sappy, empty-headed, indolent, and comfortable lifestyle, especially given that he is in marketing. Minor nods to global warming and water shortages notwithstanding, this story is unable to suspend disbelief and conjure up a credible scenario.

      This obsession with roboticizing everything and eliminating human labor and human contact at every turn is creepy and disturbing, let alone self-destructive.

  107. My prediction by glebovitz · · Score: 2

    The alarm clock will still be on my wife's side of the bed and will probably be a cheap Timex battery powered unit with buttons that are hard to press and a crappy display and annoying beep for an alarm. She will still the voice that pulls me from my sleep,

    We will have the same shower with maybe an upgrade to the shower head. I don't see a need to upgrade our Thermosol shower control as it seems to do a fine job at at temperature control. We will still live on the east coast where water is not so much a valued commodity. We tend to take short showers, so this shouldn't be an issue.

    I will still have a phone and a computer. My computer might look more like a tablet and syncing will be faster and easier, but I won't be plopping my phone into a docking station at my office. Dropbox or Google sync seems to give me that functionality today.

    I expect to be swiping and typing. I don't think I will be gesturing into the air which seems to require to much energy. I still expect no more than a 30 inch display on my desk, although the screen and tablet computer might be flexible and thin. I doubt the metric system will take hole in the U.S. I will still be driving at 75MPH on roads with a 65MPH speed limit. My car might have more voice controls and a heads up display, but I suspect it will be a hybrid that runs on electricity and natural gas rather than gasoline.

    I will still expect a paper or card menu at the restaurant and a live waiter. The card menu could possibly be a flexible computer, but it will have to look and feel like a menu card to be acceptable.
    .
    My kitchen appliances will be very high tech with touch displays, but their function will likely be the same. We might have some unforeseen replacements for microwave ovens, but I doubt it.

    In essence, I don't expect things to change dramatically. I expect I will have multiple devices that are all synced together (I have that now, so why would it be different 15 years from now). Siri might actually work and be useful by then, but I will still only use it in the car. I won't want to be shouting out my preferences or requests in public for all to hear.

  108. add another three zeros if Moore's Law hold by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Right now personal computing is bordering giga/tera speed and memory devices. In 15 years persona devices will be knocking at the peta-door.

    I went to early school in the kilo era, grad school and early work in the mega era, then recent work in the giga and tera eras.

    Hardware trends are easier to predict than software. The WW web came faster than many of us at the time thought. Social computing after a half dozen major failures is gaining traction. I've always wondered why vocal inferences stilll havent dominated by now. I have difficulty imaging the "killer apps" of 2030.

  109. CID versus Google Account by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

    I've got to jump onto the list of people pointing out the CID card flaw to this story. Right now, I have a Google Account. This account gives me access to files (Google Drive), e-mails (GMail), articles (Google Reader), and more. I can view items on my work laptop, home laptop, work desktop, phone, etc. There's no need to put a card into my computer/phone to access this account. Why would we need CID cards for this?

    Here's a slightly modified - slightly more realistic version. You buy a new alarm clock and authorize it to have read/write access to your CID account. This lets it access your network, get the current time, get your alarm time preference, reset your alarm time preference, etc. From then on, you use it as an interface to aspects of your CID account. If you want to get rid of it, you deauthorize it first and then sell/junk it. The same way I authorized my phone to use my Google Account.

    The technology to authorize/deauthorize is here now. See: Apps on phones or Twitter applications that use OAuth. It's not a big leap to envision an appliance (e.g. alarm clock) operating on the same principle. No cards required.

    --
    My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
  110. Almost perfect by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 2

    I can accept almost all of this, but there is one glaring flaw.

    The US converting to metric? Lunacy. Sheer fantasy.

  111. Snorrr... by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 1

    The usual combination of overoptimistic linear extrapolation of current tech trends with an utter lack of appreciation for their impacts on society. Not that anyone else has ever managed to do much better, maybe Hugo Gurnsback, maybe.

    --
    "Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." -- Jefferson
  112. What should we think of these investigations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I feel this entry was well written. It gives an intelligent speculation of some things good and bad that will probably or maybe happen. As expected many commentors are inordinately offended by the optimistic proclamations (or seemingly even anything but dystopic). Why can't these people accept a balanced speculation? Is it not healthy (for tech/human progess) to imagine possible futures? Do we need the resolute negative nancies to temper the Kurzweils of the world? Or can we mold ourselves to have a well thought-out balance like Soulskill here?

  113. Constructive criticism by EdgePenguin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its easy to piss on a future projection, but I'm going to try to be as positive as I can.

    1. fMRI scanners at entrances. Even if this can be done accurately enough - these scanners require magnetic fields on the order of a Tesla or so. Standing in front of it would rip your keys out of your pocket, at best.

    2. Europe in economic/environmental collapse whilst the US is business at usual. Your politics are showing. The idea that Europe is going to be begging China for aid 15 years from now is absurd as it is insulting.

    3. Zero human contact. Your hero never speaks to another human face to face throughout his entire day. People don't want to live like this.

    4. Commuting to the office. What is the point if you don't see anybody face to face?

    5. The CID. Why bother with this? Dongles fell out of fashion years ago. Existing authentication is better than this.

    6. Apparently completely unfree computing. Each system the person interacts with is a walled garden. Its possible, but I would hope that the tech savvy wouldn't voluntarily submit to this.

    7. Water quota. Fine, this could easily happen - but only whilst there was a shortage of energy for desalination. If there were such a shortage, your guy certainly wouldn't wasted electricity driving to work.

    There are a few more flaws, but don't want to do a TLDR post.

    1. Re:Constructive criticism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3. Zero human contact. Your hero never speaks to another human face to face throughout his entire day. People don't want to live like this.

      No True Slashdotter would type such a thing!

    2. Re:Constructive criticism by russotto · · Score: 1

      fMRI scanners at entrances. Even if this can be done accurately enough - these scanners require magnetic fields on the order of a Tesla or so. Standing in front of it would rip your keys out of your pocket, at best.

      Metal keys are dangerous and have been banned, citizen.

      Zero human contact. Your hero never speaks to another human face to face throughout his entire day. People don't want to live like this.

      After the 2020 "airborne Ebola" outbreak and the 2026 "airborne AIDS" pandemic, nobody wants to be face to face with anyone else.

      Commuting to the office. What is the point if you don't see anybody face to face?

      Bosses are still bosses. Your cubicle may have a filtered air system the same as your home, but they think if you aren't sitting there, you're not working.

      Apparently completely unfree computing. Each system the person interacts with is a walled garden. Its possible, but I would hope that the tech savvy wouldn't voluntarily submit to this.

      That's what the re-education camps are for.

      Water quota. Fine, this could easily happen - but only whilst there was a shortage of energy for desalination.

      The rationing is for its own sake, not for any good underlying reason.

  114. a tip? by zhub · · Score: 2

    "You leave a small tip for the robot maintenance engineer."
    Please. By then, gratuities will have merged with lobbying to become a complex system of bribery. It will be functionally the same as the U.N.'s value-added-tax (which will replace various nations' income tax systems in 2020) except that bribery will apply to the black-market half of the global economy.
    Change to
    "You are completely unconscious of the app in your phone which correctly deduces the proper syndicate to receive the VAT/bribe. It automatically transfers the credits from your account, thereby saving you another broken kneecap."

  115. hour before dawn I feed the pigs and chickens by peter303 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ever since the Carrington event of 2023 and its cruel repeat in 2025 most food production and life in the western world has been confined to a few miles of home. 98% of the US electric power transformers were fried along with the computers of almost every truck, car, and train. The US only had about ten percent transformer replacements in stock. And most of those got fried in the repeat event two years later.

    In the first months most of the old and sick people died. Then plenty of the rest in the gang wars. The most difficult thing to deal with was the utter electronic silence. No phone, internet, radio or TV. More than one teenage girl jumped off a roof when the smartphones stopped working.

    But its the cellphone service that is coming back first. One can runner the towers of solar cells during the day. Every little neighborhood has its solar charging station. No ventral power stations or wires necessary. I recall that was the situation in deepest Africa in the early 2000s: minimum infrastructure, but every family prized its cellphone.

    1. Re:hour before dawn I feed the pigs and chickens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forcing mankind back to nature is fun thoughtplay, but since the genie is out of the bottle on how to generate electricity (at home, for the most part) using wind, water, earth, fire, and sun -- people will make due pretty well. Yeah, it'll take a few months to get things running again. Yeah, there'll be riots and looting. Yeah, some people will be in extra-big trouble; but it wouldn't be an extinction or even near-extinction event for humanity. People are extremely resilient. If we were to round up all the posters on slashdot, tie a 50lb pack to their backs, and forcemarch them 10 miles in a day through rough terrain -- almost all of them would make it -- not because they're trained in any way or their body is used to that sort of thing, but because it's hardcoded into the wetware. I guarantee you -- the biggest question most of (18+) /. would have, waking up to a world without electricity is "Should I still try to report in for work today?" because humans manage to tackle change very well with routine -- hence the political success with "Bread and Games" throughout civilization.

    2. Re:hour before dawn I feed the pigs and chickens by mlts · · Score: 1

      There is one problem with that argument. It takes tools to make things. No power means no saws, no working tools, no means of smelting metal to replace stuff that wears out (the tools of today are nowhere near as good as hand tools made 20 years ago), no transportation (since all metal alloying is done in China.) Give a city in the US three days without trucks coming in, and the food riots will start. One week later, and you will see gangs ransacking homes when they can, and people whom they can't get to, they will burn to the ground.

      The people that have a chance at surviving are people outside a 100-150 mile radius of large cities -- far enough away that walking and bicycling are impossible for people who have no access to food.

    3. Re:hour before dawn I feed the pigs and chickens by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

      It seems to me. you severely underestimate the consequences of the next Carrington Event. Even discounting fires and the like, I'd guess urban and associated populations will have no food supply within 3-4 weeks (cf. Russian Revolution post-period, etc.) My guestimate would thus be human population at 5-10% of pre-event levels at t=1 year after the Event.

      Unless we do something, of course ;)

  116. ITT: by Fernando+Jones · · Score: 1

    ITT: people normalising the progress of the last 15 years

  117. Death Before An Automated Shower by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Death before I step into an automated shower - there's a disaster waiting to happen - and double death before the goddamned shower gets the password to Turn Off The Alarm Clock! And a sensored pillow? No frakking chance one will ever go near my bed.

    Who comes up with this unadulterated idiocy?

    I can imagine the headlines - Fiery Deaths of 15 Trigger Pillow Recalls - and the advertisements - Is your shower running cold? Our technicians can reset your shower using your neighbour's wifi! Call us today! And if you irritate the neighbour's teenaged kid, he or she might hack into your shower and reset the temperature.

    Yeah, not in my home.

    Why is it futurists are hellbent on making the future more tech-complicated? Why can't there be a trend towards simple?

    Best shower experience for a tech is to turn the lights off. We get too much bright light shone into our eyes, and a nice gloomy shower is a nice antidote to all that.

    1. Re:Death Before An Automated Shower by mlts · · Score: 1

      We had people say similar things in the late 1990s when there was the suggestion of having a computer only download/run stuff from a single repository with everything locked out... a la NGTCB/Palladium. Now, on most devices, this is the norm and not the exception.

      Similar with the concept of having locations sent to ad services 24/7/365 when the cellphone in common use was a Motorola RAZR.

      I wouldn't be surprised if in the future that showers were limited and toilets had inbuilt tests for illegal substances, and the only result would be some grumbling.

      The "boil the frog" strategy has worked extremely well so far.

  118. Life will be wordy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My life in 15 years will be an ocean of words? I thought we were moving to abstract symbols.

    What about the zombie apocalypse?

  119. In 15 years by prefec2 · · Score: 1

    In 15 years, you will wake up, because the same old lousy noisy bastard of alarm clock, which terrorized you for decades, will go off. If you are lucky it is not one of those mechanical devices and you got a "radio alarm" which provides the best songs of the 80,90,2000,2010,and of today. You will get up after the same pillow fight with the device you have every morning and go to the shower, there will by a faucet mixing thing in it (just like today, which is already 10 or 20 years old) after some fiddling around the water is just perfect and you wash yourself.

    Afterwards you will use a towel and try to get dressed. Still not that easy without a coffee. Then you get your regular breakfast (if there is time, or as you overslept again, you get an apple or something). You walk out, lock the door (when you are in the US, apply all locking) and walk to the busstop. You bik was stolen yesterday and it will be a rainy day, so you commute by public transport. If your boss would not be such a nutt sucker you could work from home, but well...

    The bus is filled with noisy advertisements for all sorts of crap you cannot pay for, or you do not want, and strangely, they advertising for the winter holidays again, it was just August, how should you know what you do for winter. If you have a job and if you get a day of or two. Still work is better, than living from social support money and have nothing to do (beside doing some coding if you like, only a nerd option).

    Arriving at work, after switching once, you greet Sam who guards the entrance of you work place, eating a donut or bagel crossover stuff. You still cannot believe how somebody can put marmalade on a cheeseburger. In the good old days a cheeseburger was just a cheeseburger and you had not to answer twenty questions just about the topping. Still you feel hunger, because the apple was not that good and far from filling.

    You consider to use the stairs, but on the other hand you are too sleepy and too hungry so you take the elevator. ...

  120. But where's my damn jetpack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...or flying car, at least..

  121. The more things change... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, 15 years from now everything is going to be basicaly the way it is now, only more expensive, more error prone, and more crowded. What in the last 2 decades makes you think anything is going to substantially improve or change the current living conditions? Software and hardware will continue to be rushed out the door ensuring an increase in the number of errors and bugs as the devices get more complex. Natural resources will continue to deminish as more and more people over crowd the world. Coroporations will continue to get more and more powerful until they've essenitally replaced governments. I predict there will be the same number and types of wars going on all over the world for the same tired old reasons assuming China doesn't go apeshit crazy and try to take over by force.

    Let's face it, the world is in a pretty depressing slow downward spiral. There's too many people, not enough resources, and too many monied interests, corps, to allow change to really take place. The ST:TNG future is far, far less likely than the Neuromancer future. Frankly I don't think I'll ever be able to retire and, indeed, I'll be lucky if I'm not scavenging for food and water in my old age.

  122. Where's my flying car? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 1960s version of the future was so much better. Flying cars, trips to Mars, plentiful nuclear energy, super fast monorails everywhere, etc. What happened to all that?

  123. dead sleep - riiiiiight by hb253 · · Score: 2

    Obviously written by a young know-nothing without children. There is no such thing as "dead sleep".

    The last time an alarm woke me up was 20 years ago before my first child. I don't know how, but kids makes it so that you never sleep well again. I am always awake before the alarm

    --
    Self awareness - try it!
  124. Mechanical fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's pure nonsense to think that the future will bring mechanical advantages. The point is, nonody knows how science will progress, hence it's impossible to tell what actually mechanical devices will become part of our lives.

  125. Commute to work? by owlnation · · Score: 1

    Why? Nobody who works in advertising really needs to be in an office today, never mind in 15 years time. It's perfectly possible for any such office worker to work from home, and be more productive, right now, today, with the technology currently available..

    You'd really think that 15 years in the future even the dumbest members of society (e.g. ad execs) would have figured out that the really do not need to waste money on expensive office buildings, waste economic resources and pollute the environment with unnecessary commutes, causing frustration and fatigue in the process.

    The only thing stopping that happening right now, is bad management and the vacuous waste of carbon atoms that are HR staff. With better technology available in 15 years time the need to physically be in the same place as someone you are working with will be even more preposterous than it is now.

  126. More dispatches from the future: by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 1

    4. Massive attrition through war for resources.

    Conquering British Columbia was the easy part. Shipping our teraliters of newly-liberated water home to Doha, that was the real struggle...

    --
    0 1 - just my two bits
  127. Lost me in the first paragraph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You roll over, grumbling a command

     
    Not likely. I would eat a thousand pounds of broken glass, shove a million nails in my eye, and use windows 8 on the desktop before I would use an alarm clock that had to be controlled with voice commands. I really don't understand why everyone thinks controlling devices with your voice is "futuristic". Annoying? Frustrating? Infuriating? Yes. Futuristic? No.
     

  128. Conjecture, probability by Bosconian · · Score: 2

    Did Cory Doctorow sneak in to write this article?

    Anyway, here's the more likely scenario:
    (sorry I have to work, so no time to post a full set of paragraphs...)

    I wake up to my BetchaCant (TM) alarm clock jabbing me in the small of my foot with three evenly-spaced syringes, and I momentarily wonder if I should think about regretting my Woot! Reborn! Again! (TM) impulse purchase. I try to get out of range of the needles, but it's no use, and I am forced to vacate the bed.

    I slide bleary-eyed over to the sink and turn my UpSpurt (TM) faucet to face me and hit the "5 second" button for a delightful splash of tap water to head. Yum! They've obviously been improving the piquant chlorine aftertaste.

    I then make my way to the kitchen and grab my latest Twinkie (TM) on the end of my rotating stockpile. This one should be just about cured to perfection after 15 years... It's just too bad I'll have to wait that long for the ones at the other end to get this good.

    I try to find where I left my NyloSpandoGoretexdexnex (TM) girdle to compress my gut and create the artificial pecs that I know and love. There it is, left on the footstool of my original Aims (TM) lounge chair that I had ordered from Design for People who Aren't Sure (TM).

    My implant buzzes behind my left eye socket to remind me of something--I have no idea what. I grab my glasses but since I forgot to recharge them, the blinking red light won't stop and threatens to trigger my epilepsy again. I coax the screen on for one last display before dying, and I understand that the task I have given myself is my daily reminder to order a replacement Twinkie (TM) for the end of the line. I clear the synthetic GM tobacco ashes from the table and, after waking my table up, look up the address of the convenience store next door. After an hour, I was able to navigate their miserably designed shop page and order a case. Bloody hell, shipping's gone up. Well, it should be here in about 3 or 4 days. I have enough to last until then.

    Twinkies (TM).

    I forgot what I was going to do next. Maybe head back to bed? Whatever--time to face this exciting day! But later. Or should I bathe? What time is it? Did I pay that bill? Where's my MultiPass? Maybe I should quit.

    --
    Scarce, scared, scarred, sacred... -Col. Bruce Hampton
  129. 15 years later... everyone has brain cancer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    15 years later everyone has brain cancer from continuous fMRI scans and RFID waves.

  130. Speed Limits??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would I care about speed limits if the car is driving itself while I'm watching a tv show? For me speed limits will cease to matter once the car starts driving itself, as I will happily play with my portable electronic devices for however long it takes me to get to my destination.

    Posted anonymously since I removed my CID.

  131. In 15 years, i better be dead, or cyborg by Nyder · · Score: 1

    I'm thinking i'll be dead really....

    --
    Be seeing you...
  132. Why? by SilverJets · · Score: 1

    Why would I torrent something then pay to watch it?

    Hell, why would I even torrent something? There are faster ways to get the content and I laugh at your pathetic "torrent".

  133. ... aka working for Google... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, the world's largest seller of ads.

  134. Minor Corrections by halcyon1234 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    After getting woken by a 140db rickroll at 4am, You get scalded by 140 degree water.. because the ex you pissed off screwed around with your preferences...

    You're still late for work, because you kept getting cut off by those diving for the Priority Lane. You, of course, can't afford the tolls, so have to suffer in the shared public lane.

    The robot maintenance engineer is actually the 80 year old guy whose (still) 15 years away from retirement, due to everyone else's increased life expectancy, and the latest government pension grab-back. He can't be arsed to learn metric, and keeps screwing up the robot's sensor parameters. The robot travels 3 meters instead of three feet, and dumps your sammich on your lap.

    When you call in sick, the HR Drone does a worth/risk calculation on you, taking into account the amount of time your sick day is going to cost the company based on your projects. Your salary is automatically docked the expected value of your absence. Since you've already used your sick day this year, you must also provide documentation in the next 12 hours or face termination.

    The CDC diagnoses you with AIDS. Fortunately, it's one of those mild, 24-hour AIDS. Since your health plan doesn't include a delivery premium, you have to send your car out on your own electrical dime to pick up your meds. Your CID automatically correlates your social calendar with the incubation time of your AIDS, and sends notices to your partners, and posts it on your public feeds anyways. It also packages the whole report and ships it off to HR, not like that's needed, since HR monitors your social and medical feeds in real time. Your worth/risk score is adjusted again, penalizing you for your undesirable social behaviour. The company would rather not be associated with anyone who could damage their brand by engaging in "unseeming" social activities. You're instantly terminated. Your 2-day severance package is reduced by the sick day, plus early-termination penalties. The bill for 1 week's pay arrives in your inbox, the funds already removed from your savings account.

    After leaving the pharmacy, your driverless car is spotted by a pack of organized thieves. Your car passes through their wireless interdict field, and they easily break in, steal your medication, and are out without even stopping the car. Your car arrives at your home, sans medicine or any evidence it was broken into. Now, without a job and without health insurance, you cannot afford to replace the pills. You must quickly find employment to afford you meds before your immune system shuts down and you die. Of course, now you'll never pass the mandatory health screens or social network background checks. You figure you've got a good two years left, for some definition of "good".

  135. in 15 years... I'm retired and on the beach by macbeth66 · · Score: 1

    and I will laugh my old geezer ass off at the quaint ideas they had 15 years ago.

    I'll get a fire started in the cave and do an early morning tresspasser patrol. I'll look up at the blue and pink sky, a holdover from the big one; a massive sun flare that send us all back to the dark ages. We couldn't handle that along with the severe thickening of the ozone layer, flipping of the poles, and the drop of 15 feet in the sea level as the poles froze up harder than the young hooker's ass in the next cave. The good part is, she trades a ride on that ass for a little food. I won't tell her that I'd feed her anyways.

  136. Off the grid old hippy here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You life is already like that to me. You just dont know it.

  137. fifteen years from now? Ill tell you what I do.... by Razgorov+Prikazka · · Score: 2

    I probably wont host a 30 years of /. party since the other one 15 years ago wasn't a big success. Thank god I got the t-shirt nevertheless! Then I go to the /. site and post some snarly replies to dumbasses with 40digit uid's telling them that back in the olden day's things were much better. Mainly because with a CRT you got cheap laser eye surgery. (I think I might end up rather cynical)
    Then Ill drink some moonlight still, cause that is the only stuff around (because those pesky crypto-communist-health-and-safety-environmentalists got their way) and curse at my cat for half an hour. No problems, he is old and deaf cause he is born way back in 2012, and there (still) is no wife to yell at. Then I hit another shot at the little altar erected in 2018 to commemorate the tenth anniversary of the death of George Carlin. Erected just to piss him off in case he IS in heaven looking down. Before I go to my damp cold bed and take a look at the martian sunset one more time before I close my eyes. :-)

    --
    rm -rf --no-preserve-root / ...and let /dev/null sort them out...
  138. Who needs people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do. That sounds like a terrible day. What if I like dealing with people face-to-face? Who dreams this garbage up?

  139. And then 15 years later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...another yahoo pulls some predictions out of his butt that have more to do with his fantasies than anything resembling relevant data.

  140. Re:I would prefer an alternate version of this sto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot:

    "Then you go to work assembling Samsung and HTC phones, hoping that this one won't be as big a dud as the rest, since you're not smart enough to work on the Apple production lines, and your flow was never as strong as PSY's."

  141. So in fifteen years... by Arancaytar · · Score: 2

    I'll be obscenely rich and working in a senior position in marketing. Gotcha.

    But on a serious note, sending a car, which is built for transporting passengers, on a trip to pick up a small packet of medicine? In a world where even your shower water (not drinking water) apparently has a quota, that's an insane waste of fuel. An advanced society would have more efficient delivery systems, either underground channels or aerial drones. Besides, there's probably going to be flu medication where you live (if you're as rich as the article makes out, you'll have a well-stocked personal medicine cabinet, and if you're not your apartment megacomplex will be large enough to make an in-house pharmacy viable).

    On the other hand, the prediction that your medical diagnosis will be published on your social feeds in real-time is probably spot-on.

    1. Re:So in fifteen years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll be obscenely rich and working in a senior position in marketing. Gotcha.

      Couldn't I be doing something more reputable and community-oriented, like pimping or illegal dumping?
      Hell, I'd even accept the pay cut just not to be in marketing.

  142. Shower by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

    Your alarm triggered the shower's heating unit, so the water comes out at a pleasant 108 degrees

    Sounds like the flash heating that showers have had in Europe for decades.

    --
    Drill baby drill - on Mars
  143. Re:I stopped at computer id card by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    I suspect that technological advance will eventually allow the mimicry of any biometric identification method, without sensors being able to keep up. In fifteen years, biometric authentication is likely going to be on the way out - possibly replaced by implants that are equally easy to carry but easier to replace when compromised.

    (Then again, people will probably use their phones for everything.)

  144. But where's my flying car, damnit?!?! by neo-mkrey · · Score: 1

    Seriously, this article is poor sci-fi at best.

  145. Distopia by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a nasty Distopia.

  146. KILL ME NOW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FUCK, IF THAT'S THE FUTURE, KILL ME NOW

    I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am I am

  147. I rubbed my eyes by blue_teeth · · Score: 1

    in disbelief.  Did I come to Kuro5hin?

  148. 15 years ago... by matt.sommer · · Score: 1

    Well, 15 years ago I lived in the same house I live in now, with the same alarm clock and same shower - but shower head is relatively new, so at least that may be accurate!

  149. surprised by camazotz · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised that there is little question on the veracity of a fully automated auotombile/transit system in place in a paltry 15 years. Science and progress will always be decades behind politics, graft and the entrenched industries dependent on our current system.

  150. Here I got a story for you Agenda 21 scum! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I almost got caught last night, oh boy that was close .. but I got done what I set out to do. This fool
    walked city streets and without bodyguards, so self-assured, so arrogant. One of those Agenda 21
    people, you know the folks who want to take away beef and meat products, force us to take their
    toxic vaccines and medications and make us live in 100sqft appartments. I got him good. The first
    shot went right into his back and he fell on his knees and then on his face. I was all over him in a flash.
    I struck him on the back of the head with a heavy metal bar, then turned his face to the side and literally crushed his
    jaw. Heavy motherfucker but he ain't getting up now more. Dragging him into the van, omg my pants are
    full with blood I so better not get stopped, shit like this needs much better planning but I don't have a lot of
    time either and I need to get a few things done now. Anyhow now I got him in back, I'm taking a screwdriver and jabbing his thigh
    to locate the tracker implant. It's hamburger by now and I'm thinking of just slicing off slabs of meat and
    then searching those for it but then I'm also worried there are major arteries here and I don't want this
    swine to die too easy. I bind off the leg it - I don't really consider it a person like me - it looks at me and mewls
    and I jab the screw driver into its right eye. Damm right, bitch, I'm serious about hurting you and your life is over.
    It's got some fight in it so I take to just stomping it in the chest I'm trying to crack it's ribs and chest bone with my
    heels then I can use the lose bones to exert pressure on its heart and lungs. It's having a little semi heart attack
    laboring to breathe while I push against its chest. I quiet explain why I'm punishing it the way I am. I'm going to spare
    you the gruesome details of what happened after I got him into my little death house as I call that abandoned shack off
    of Hwy 33. That was that Agenda 21 guy. He got off easy too, no comparison to what I did to the CPS worker who
    took my daughter.

    1. Re:Here I got a story for you Agenda 21 scum! by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Much better than the original story, which of course is completely implausible in the Agenda 21 vision, since only the elites will have PERSONAL cars, and it will be completely impractical to live so far from work that you need one to get there. If your work is in a distant Human Habitation hub, just apply to the Planning Board for an apartment there.

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      --- Jerry Garcia
    2. Re:Here I got a story for you Agenda 21 scum! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Glad you liked the story though it's pretty implausible as well .. first of all I'm not addressing the surveillance issue
      except for extracting that tracking device from the hostile and I'm stomping the shit out of him in a van .. and that
      way too late .. Very likely it would trigger as soon as I fire on that piece of crap sending an alert to the police, I'm
      causing all kinds of ruckus in the van and it is not like the intellistreet surveillance wouldn't make note of that
      the van is bouncing up and down and maybe even they are using backscatter x-ray. Then I'm also covered in blood
      which would trigger the picolaser substance detectors if not the adrenaline in my blood wouldn't do that. I'm not
      going to talk about how this really could go down, careless talk does cost lives.

  151. This is just silly... so... by theNAM666 · · Score: 1

    Let's take it apart:

    >Fifteen years from now, your alarm goes off at 7:30 AM,

    When I was in my twenties, we had a manager who insisted that IT folks under her make it in by 10am. The first time three of us got paged at 2am and were still in the NOC at 10am, she rolled back on this.

    >pulling you out of a dead sleep. You roll over, grumbling a command, and the alarm obediently shuts up. You drift off again, but ten minutes later the alarm returns, more insistent.

    My current sleep monitor, unlke this proposed future one, is actually intelligent and doesn't try to wake me from dead sleep (which has negative consequences). It waits until I'm between sleep cycles, then GENTLY chirps...

    >It won't be so easily pacified this time; the loose sensory netting inside your pillow will keep the noise going until it detects alpha waves in drastically higher numbers than theta waves.

    Again, silly. Why would an advanced device keep trying to disrupt your sleep patterns, instead of gently nudging?

    > Or until it gets the automated password from the shower. Sighing, you roll out of bed, pull your Computing ID (CID) card from the alarm unit,

    Sigh. Someone already mentioned, an ID card is SO 1980s.

    >and stumble out of the bedroom. Pausing briefly to drop your CID into your desktop computer, you make your way to the shower and begin washing. Your alarm triggered the shower's heating unit, so the water comes out at a pleasant 108 degrees, exactly your preference. (42 degrees, you remind yourself — the transition to metric

    Someone already mentioned: the US? Metric? Is some other country on Imperial Units, and going to convert?

    >still isn't second nature, after almost two full years.) You wash quickly to avoid exceeding your water quota,

    Water quota?!? Are you friggin' kidding? Any civilized nation that faces freshwater shortage, will simply separate potable (drinking) water from other uses. There's not going to be a shortage of water to shower with etc., and if there was, there'd likely be a revolt in most of the US.

    >and step out refreshed, ready to meet the day.

    After a short shower? The writer clearly is in his/her 20s and hasn't aged 15 years yet. When the writer is 15 years older, they'll likely find that a long, hot shower is the only way they can get their muscles halfway untensed for the day-- followed by stretches (I assume a tech lifestyle, ie, staring at six monitors all day).

    I leave taking apart the silliness of the rest of the paragraphs, as an exerice for the reader.

  152. Completely forgot about the Zombie appocolypse by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

    Also what Luddite Amish cave dweller thinks this stuff doesn't already exist today? I've had an automated torrent and archiving system for years. I can also wave my hands in front of the faucet of my bathroom and water comes out of it automagically.

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  153. I love technology as much as the next guy by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    but that scenario reads like one of the circles of Hell from Dante's Inferno. I'm for technology making life easier, but not at the expense of freedom. Of course it's up to us to decide whether or not we want totalitarianism. Seems that all government sees in new technology is new ways to control the population.

  154. Re:Problem with all these authentication cards and by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simpler? How about a unique identification alias tied to a collection of cryptographically secure language elements? Just "type" your "password" and you are automatically "logged in" to the "computer!"

  155. Headline on Slashdot 15 years from now by tim_q54 · · Score: 1

    RMS's eternal AI-bot denounces the non-free software controlling the robotic waiter and proclaims Hurd to enter stable release within the next 15 years.

  156. Get a Blog by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

    Indeed. I'd say if this is what he likes doing, perhaps he should get a blog and spare the rest of us.

  157. Solar storm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There will not be any electricity because of a solar storm - so I disagree with the prediction.

  158. ...by implication by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    Metric is for people who are too bad at math to mentally convert from different base systems.

    So what you are implying is that Imperial users are good enough at maths to mentally convert to metric but too stubborn and stuck in the past to do so?

  159. "One second after" scifi book by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Describes the immediate aftermath of an utter loss of electricity. It estimates a 90% population decline in the first year. We return to a pre-civil war "steampunk" type agrarian lifestyle until we recover. Humanity did fine before the mid 19th century. The trauma is transitioning to that.

    Some electrical devices will be shielded in sub-basements and caves. Its unclear if would be a critical nucleus for recovery.

    The TV show Revolution is 15 years after such an event. They hint at a 3rd cause other than a nuclear blast or massive solar storm.

    1. Re:"One second after" scifi book by spike+hay · · Score: 1

      Wow we're going to have 19th century steampunk after a solar flare? I'm so hard right now.

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  160. Don't give up your day job by Snaller · · Score: 1

    Besides, 15 years from now I'll be existing in a computer matrix after the singularity. It's great fun in there - everything is possible, and its bigger on the inside!

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    If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
  161. Archive This !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please archive this article!
    We will be laughing our asses off at it 15yrs from now. . .

  162. I love these, but... by tnk1 · · Score: 1

    In 15 years, I will not grumble anything to my alarm clock. I got my alarm clock in 1987, I still have it today. It's made of sturdy plastic and not very complicated electronics. It is likely that if it survived my childhood and college dorm room, it will survive another 25 years.

    In 15 years, my alarm clock will go off at 7:30AM, and I will still be slapping my snooze bar every 9 minutes for an hour until I drag my ass out of bed.

    Sometimes, the secret to discovering what the future is going to be like is determining what has little chance of actually changing between now and then.

  163. Assuming you're alive in 15 years by Ranger · · Score: 1

    you'll be woken up by the sunlight pouring under the bridge you decided to pass out under the night before or a nearly naked guy wearing a hockey mask will kick you and say "I am the Humongus. Just walk away. Just walk away!".

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  164. Hopefully there will also be suicide booths by Rob_Bryerton · · Score: 1

    Hopefully there will also be suicide booths, like in Futurama, or that ST:TOS episode. Because after a long day of all of that which was described in that post, I'd like to relax, and retire to a nice suicide booth...

  165. 7:30 AM??? by mattack2 · · Score: 1

    I practically never get up anywhere near that early⦠Why would I do it in 15 years??

    (joking)

  166. Epcot by yoshi_mon · · Score: 1

    All I can ever see when reading articles like these is the tours that I took though Disney's Epcot Center in the 80's. With GE's, GM's, and other industry giants letting there marketing teams loose.

    The reality is far from what the marketing hacks are projecting. However that never has stopped a good fantasy...or in this day and age a click bait.

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    Really, I know what I'm doing...Ohhhh, look at the shiny buttons!
  167. where do you see yourself in 15 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    15 years from now ...

    (don't say banging your wife ... don't say banging your wife)

    banging .... your son?

    (family guy)

  168. wrong oppressor by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    the real oppression is natural: not enough water. the government's quota is a clumsy reaction, but bullets aren't going to get you more water, they just get you into gunfights with other hotheads wanting more water, further strengthening the average citizen's call for the government to have water quotas to save them from hotheads trying to get control of the water supply

    in fact, the ultimate source of the oppression is runaway population growth. but if you institute quotas on how many children you can have, even more hotheads will grab guns so they can have more kids, leading to more chaos and more oppression in the form of hotheads with guns and twelve children

    oppression is usually from natural reasons, or oppression is from individuals, such as hotheads with guns, rather than government

    not that government can't oppress you, they frequently do

    but the idea that in the scenario outlined: that an attempt to ration a limited water supply is oppression, and the right reaction is to start shooting, suggests people who think like you are more oppressive than the government's clumsy attempt to keep the peace

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  169. Corrections by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As someone who's spent years, every day, researching an upcoming Science Fiction novel (not even a tenth done!) I'd like to make a few corrections:

    There will be no computer ID. Biometric will be replacing all ID. Secure, hard to spoof, and most importantly already available to everyone. The number one thing to consider when trying to accurately predict the future is "how cheap can this possibly be done?"
    Desktop? Not likely, not at least as we recognize the word now. Some sort of computing unit, sure of course. But not something we'd recognize as a "desktop" today. They're slowly going out of style, only useful for heavy work spaces anymore (what their form factor was originally designed for).
    RFID for locking your house? Again, not likely. How about a webcam near your door? Again, facial identification, cheap, easy, no way to "lose" it. Cheap, cheap cheap cheap. It's the sound birds make and how humans think. The less complicated the more likely it is to work every time, the more people are likely to go for it.
    Your phone as a your work device? IT workers will come to your house and murder you in your sleep. You're centrally approved hardware and software in a centrally approved software environment and they don't give a damn whether you like it.
    Gesturing for control? Again, the mouse works. They keyboard WORKS. We have adapted them so perfectly that they haven't evolved as an interface in decades. They're not going anywhere. The only weakness of tablets that all can agree on is that they don't HAVE a mouse and keyboard. If there was a way to pop them out of midair when typing or more precision than touch is needed everyone would do that.
    The AI proposed isn't going to be here in 15 years, not commercially available anyway. Otherwise we'd just use it to replace your hypothetical workers to begin with. But there will be AI optimization algorithms. One will be built for various types of ad campaigns, and you will get back an effectiveness rating. So a lot of it seems correct.
    Table menu display? Again, another expense, another thing to go wrong. "You can't sit at that table, it's screen is broken." Some automated way of ordering should certainly be available. Probably your menu will look quite similar to todays, but actually be an interactive touchscreen connected via wifi.
    China with economic aid? China is about to have a huge recession within the next ten years. Coastal flooding however is quite the possibility : (
    Server robot? Not in fifteen years, not common anyway. Factory robots replacing all factories sure. But people like human interaction, and since all the factory worker jobs are gone what else is there but to be a waiter?
    Virus checking via the internet? Again, a lab on a chip will be available, but expensive. People don't have time or money for that. "If I get sick I can damn well tell when I'm sneezing!" Not that viruses will be a problem at all. We've, theoretically, got a perfect broad spectrum cure. At least until they adapt.

    Still, all in all a good job and a fun read. There is a huge, world changing point that's been missed. And that's simply that humans will be facing the prospect of immortality. Probably the largest single change humans will have ever encountered up to that point.

  170. This is a post by EL_mal0 · · Score: 1

    post to undo errant mod

  171. no truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is pathetic.

    15 years from now, there will be no TV, no alarm, no display, phone and no tablet. It is utterly ridiculous to think that today's gadgets will still be around in 15 years.

    I think what will happen is many people will wear augmented reality glasses that will replace all these things.The early adopters will have a quantum computer embedded into their skull and wired to their brain. Instead of ridiculous CIDs and voice commands, one would simply think about what they want and it will be done. Video will be transmitted directly into your brain and everything will be live and online -- no need for torrents. Everywhere you look you will get augmented reality information fed into your brain Terminator style. There will be no commute because everyone you work with will be connected wirelessly brain-to-brain.

  172. Re:Chatty Alarm Clocks and Other Things I Don't Wa by tompaulco · · Score: 1

    I have absolutely NO desire for my alarm clock to talk to my shower OR anything else.
    I like how the article keeps wandering back and forth from centralist (everything on one device) to decentralist (a device for each thing). There are only two things on his desk at work, one of them being an extremely inefficient to use monitor interface; yet for some reason, there needs to be a dedicated alarm clock instead of using some other device like a smartphone.

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  173. Try the 1700s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Piracy (in terms of IP violations) has existed since copyright existed. Before copyright it wasn't illegal of course. So, for Americans piracy started in 1790, in the UK it was 80 years earlier

  174. And where do you live? by RNLockwood · · Score: 1

    Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sudan, Columbia, Burma, Cambodia, or perhaps Uruguay?

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  175. Dull by bsercombe72 · · Score: 1

    No human interaction for a whole day? Clearly this is a slashweenie fantasy!

  176. er... by nighthawk243 · · Score: 1

    tl;dr.

  177. metric system coming real soon now by swell · · Score: 1

    In 1955 our 5th grade class (in the US) was told that there is a 'master plan' to convert to the metric system. As a result we spent two days in a mandatory exploration and comparison of metric measurements.

    Personally I won't be satisfied until we have a metric system for measuring time.

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  178. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong by PacRim+Jim · · Score: 1

    I'll sleep as long as I want. Then I'll sleep some more. Meanwhile, my strong AI-based avatar will work in my stead. In fact, it needn't come home, but will work nonstop. Ask it for my bank account number so you can deposit its pay in my account. Now leave me alone. I have some serious sleeping to do.

  179. Parking by ceka · · Score: 1

    The car drops you off in front of work and drives itself to the parking, rather than making you walk from the parking to the work entrance

  180. You can tell it's America... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The guy sends his entire car (probably one of those stupid massive 4-wheel-drive-monster-truck-tinycockmobile behemoths that you see in the states) to pick up a bottle of medication that weighs a few hundred grams.

    A couple of more energy-efficient efficient alternatives spring to mind:
    1 - once self-driving technology has matured to the point indicated in the story, there will be fleets of automated postmen running around, delivering stuff as and when it's needed.
    2 - As well as a self-driving car for driving you/ your family around, you will also have a "courier" robot that is basically a very small autonomous car, too small to carry people, but big enough for small packages.

  181. Pure sadness out of that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Frowning at one of the dead pixels on your display, you remember when you used to have co-workers who dealt with that sort of thing."
    That's by far the saddest thing I've read today. Mostly because it's going to be true.

  182. Assumptions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The leftist/progressive/liberal slant in your sociology is appalling, and quite unrealistic.

  183. The problem with the future- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The real problem with predicting the future, is predicting how long it will take you to ditch everything you own and everything you owned incrementally between now and the future you're predicting. 15 years from now I will probably still own all of the same stuff and as I'm lazy and cheap I'll probably still own it long after that. I would need to either a) win the lottery or b) move into some brand nw high rise apartment in a yet non-existant city in China furnished by the company, before I had any of this stuff.

    15 years from now I'll own someones mid range luxury car from today, still won't have a TV, probably will still be rolling my own computers and thus be stuck with a ridiculous list of bugs and features I was too lazy to ever get working and getting my internet from a local starbucks.

  184. If this happens we have failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Failed utterly as human beings.

    I like technology, I work in technology (programming), and I hobby in technology (game making, 3d models, music synth, programming, digital art), but this is not the direction to go. It is devoid of the very elements that make us human.

    Technology should liberate us, liberate our minds and souls, not entrap them. If I need all those gismos to get out off bed in the morning then I'm not meant to get up that morning, 9/10 of the time I wake up before my alarm (wish the built in alarm on the iphone had a "I'm awake just skip the next alarm" button, instead I have to toggle it off and then back on again 5 minutes later after the time has passed).

    I have more reasons than most NOT to get up in the morning, but I get up every morning. Last month I lost my spouse of 10 years to illness (not a joke). I held her hand as she died in the hospital. The only thing I wanted to do was be with her which meant joining her. There is no one who would be upset if I didn't bother getting out of bed in the morning, not even work. But every morning I get up and keep going, because there are things out there, great things. Some day I may have to (figuratively) sit down and tell her all about those wonderful things. (ps I am an atheist, I don't believe in god, the universe is bigger than mans concept of god, and there may yet be something unexplained along the lines of what we think of as a soul)

  185. 30 years ago by bobvious · · Score: 1

    If someone had tried guessing how our day would be 30 years ago, how close would they be to where we are now? No doubt flying cars would be predicted.

    1. Re:30 years ago by bobvious · · Score: 1

      Whoops. 15 years. Brain fart. Ignore. Sorry. 15 years ago, I don't think too many people would be thinking we'd be in flying cars now. Just my perception from then.

  186. Deja Vu by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

    Is this 1958?

  187. desktop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you lost me at desktop

  188. I got to the part about torrenting a TV show... by Gripp · · Score: 1

    I got to the part about torrenting a TV show and stopped. I really can't imagine that we would still need to do this by then. At least I hope. I really see no reason why we aren't already streaming everything on-demand. get away from the channel/24hour time slot lock. Stop canceling good shit for dancing with bears, simply becuase it *might* turn more profit. ...

  189. retired. by pbjones · · Score: 1

    I'll be divorcing myself of most electronic technology and moving off the grid for about 50% of my living time. I'll be retiring, poorer because of the money spent on technology that 'improves' my job chances, which I will not need as I retire. My house will be small and cheap to run, and I'll be dependant on a pension and my wife/best-friend. We already own the land and a 'building' It is just a matter of renovation and careful planning.

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  190. Off to a bad start... by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 1

    "You drift off again, but ten minutes later the alarm returns, more insistent. It won't be so easily pacified this time; the loose sensory netting inside your pillow will keep the noise going until it detects alpha waves in drastically higher numbers than theta waves."

    I'm not an EEG technician, but I've worked with the machines enough to know that you can't read brainwaves using a "loose sensory netting inside a pillow". And even if you could, the suggested algorithm will not reliably distinguish between REM sleep and wakefulness.

    Right out of the gate, the author predicts something which is implausible and flat-out dumb. I didn't quite stop reading at this point (I think I made it up to the part where I "insert my computer ID into my phone"), but I sure as hell didn't make it to the end.

  191. Welcome to the "beast"of revelation..;-( by doccus · · Score: 1

    Hey I like technology as much as the next guy, but a scenario like this gives me chills down my spine

  192. Did this fall out of the 90's? by RatchetDriver · · Score: 1

    Honestly, I've read S/F written in the 90's trying to predict what the world would be like now - exactly the same level of predictions but based on current tech instead of 90's tech. Blegh.

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  193. recontextualized by Randym · · Score: 1

    s/advertising/newspeakanalysis/

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  194. Re:15 years ago I was ... by Randym · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah -- I was employed....

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