Yeah it's E70 and it works great. My father have this phone for work....it's ok except perhaps that little joystick on top for mouse. And you can do some server administration if you have that Java app for terminal. Keyboard is awsame ! I wish it would be open and had Linux on top of it:( not Symbian.
is if solar panel this days is able to produce enough energy to create another solar panel. Energy from PV is clean but what about process for producing solar panels? Is it clean ? It's the same story with electric cars...etc. Just think !
Hm well..just create current source and chop that current with NE555 (turn it on and off) or something like that so that average effective power stays under 200mW. Some diodes survive this and some don't I'm not sure which diode is used in DVD player so I can't tell you if this works on this diode...Anyway main idea is to feed that diode with higher current (you get higher power) for a very short period of time. Usually this diodes are in IR spectrum...
"200 mW will lead to permanent eye damage within 1 microsecond (!) of exposure" Hm perhaps it is dangerous to mention on/. but you can get a very high power out of this diodes with current source chopped so that effective power stays still in limits from the manufacturer. Something like 5W or more can be achieved for a short period of time on a 200 mW diode. Now this laser has a much higher range. You can probably blind Martians with such device:) Anyway this involves some more knowledge of electronics so not every kid can do that...that's why I think it's safe to mention it here. They use this technique in medicine for healing (not eyes)
You can try one of those WebOS already. EyeOS is one of them...the thing is that OSS community should start working on this kind of software soon. Fear goes away if we can download and change code for this kind of software. It's not about large companies having more bandwidth. It's about this simple question.. Can we install this software ( OSS ) on our own servers on our local network and then use low power terminals for word processing etc from there?
This configuration is what I have in mind for a modern small scale robot.(Small scale because it doesn't have large memory storage on board ) Unfortunately this kind of robot is totally useless without a huge database , server and wireless connection. Robot with this hardware configuration IS a robot!!! I go crazy when I see people wasting time with something like 2 servo motors , small cpu like 8051 with 2k of memory and few sensors that help em not to bump into a first obstacle. Please use your imagination and time for something better.There is still lot's of stupid coffee, washing machines out there to make em smarter.I just don't understand why most of the people want to create such a stupid robot first thing when they learn how to program MCU's.Anyway I hope database and software will be open for others to hook up with it in the future so this robot hungry hobbyists can create something useful. Check http://www.fira.net/. Those robots are connected to central computer with wireless connection and play soccer.
I think you are right. That WAS most common Firefox/Opera source here too in the early days. But still I think without community support it wouldn't be so popular as it is.
I was wondering why exactly this happened in our country.This is the country closely tied to Microsoft for many years.Average people don't even know there is alternative to Windows OS. We are probably the most "Windows Desktop conservative" country in the world. Most of the people don't know there is alternative to Windows! I'm sure this wide adoption has lot to do with good support from Mozilla team in our country http://mozilla.lugos.si/ and Firefox supporters trying to explain benefits of Firefox from early beginnings.
So in a way we won but war is not over YET. There is still 58% of computers without Firefox around.The good thing is this percentage can't be ignored from web developers any more. There is almost no Firefox incompatible web pages. Next "war" please ??...:)) Perhaps ODF? Maybe OS war ? I was wondering if this has anything to do with R.Stallman visiting Slovenia and Croatia http://www.lugos.si/lugos/rms2000/pic/RMS-2000-10- 14/ looks very suspicious:))) Maybe we need Linus Torvalds now to help us win OS war or maybe Mark Suttleworth he seems more like a desktop guy:))) Anyway thanks to Mozilla team and to all Firefox and OSS fans in our country.
I'm sure I have at least 2 kA current from ankle to brains that can produce heat.So P=I^2*R=m*c*delta(T) right..So you suggest that heat from current in my nerves should be visible on thermal camera ??? Damn that stupid. Stick a needle in your nerve put a nice high gain amplifier....no that sounds like torture...perhaps voltage coming out of the nerves is so high that you can measure it on the skin on some places. The answer for this people will come when they'll understand why we use transformers in power systems:))
Q1 : Why do we want Dell selling preinstalled Linux PC's and where is his target market ?
A1. we want to see wide Linux adoption
A2. we are just tired to put together our own Linux compatible computers
A3. we are tired of checking for hardware compatibility for laptops
A4. only Dell or some other powerful PC vendor like IBM/Lenovo could make some pressure on the hardware manufacturers to make Linux drivers or give specifications which on the end could make a better hardware support
Q2 : Why Dell doesn't want to help us ?
A1. They are struggling on their market already with win based PC and investment wouldn't return much money (in the beginning)
A2. there isn't very large demand for Dells computers with Linux preinstalled no matter what happened on Idea storm
A3. Windows dell deal / partnership (not really sure about this being an obstacle)
A4. Dell doesn't recognize benefits of Linux software or potential killer apps(they are wrong but probably what they think)
A5. additional Linux support team(at least that's the way they see things) you need specific Linux distribution experts
A6. when you are launching new product you need right people to hear about your product and why is this product good 4. So there is also a problem with cost of marketing.
A7. driver problems and proper support for hardware (they could write their own drivers which cost $,wait for the community to make drivers (time+good hardware specifications))
Q3:What could Dell do about this demand?
A1: Try to convince hardware vendors to give specifications for hardware to community or make drivers even though
A2: Start selling PC's without anything preinstalled in the beginning.
A3: Accept Linux compatible lable and put it on their PC's with no OS preinstalled this is very important step!!
Q4:What could community do to change things 4 Dell
A1: A lot! One of the most important things is making the label from Q3:A3 !!!
A2: Give your laptops to your wives sisters / colleges and judge by their responses and make things work for them.
A3: Make Beryl stable enough to get free advertising from the beginning of Linux deployment.
A4: Make Linux more useful
A5: Listen to the early adopters and their needs not just wait to get over the learning curve like we did.Not just be happy to know more then others on some matters. Help them with proper GUI (xorg.conf gui editor 4 example)
A6: Don't give new users RTMF (that's really not good) but help them
A7: Establish a list of Distributions in given time that have large user base who could make Q4:A1 possible
A8: Make package managers more beautiful - just like CNR on Linspire !!
A9: Distributions should have well preconfigured apps to run on the system and should be self explanatory(so that early adopters don't need to read manuals too much)
A10: Good GUI look and functionality is extremely important in apps and on desktop systems eye candy,eye candy,eye candy even though it's not particularity useful and sometimes takes too much time!!
A11: Linux community itself doesn't see the power in their hands yet that's the biggest problem.If all people using Linux web servers would put a commercial on their homepage advertising Linux/Linux Desktop on a particular day in the year in thanks to the Linux community I'm sure people would know about Linux and demand for Linux desktops would grow rapidly.
This is just my point of view. Please change me where I'm wrong
Java Applets are not that beautiful compared to flash that's the only reason. They work better then flash...but on the end end users judge web applets by look. It's that simple:)
True...but first you need decent voltage to make it run trough your skin. Cause normal human resistance is about 10k Ohm. And thus I= U / R...here you go:) So first you need voltage. And usually you can't measure static electricity with normal equipment or it is dropping constantly...So it must be some other reason AC voltage right ???
Overheating ?? I mean article was about getting 130V AC on his laptop while charging:) I mean that could kill you.... It's probably just bad grounding like someone said but still that's not good. I'm sure this is just a manufacturing mistake... But check voltage on those screws maybe there's more "mistakes"..and you could get a brand new laptop from Dell. Just be nice tho them !!
I don't know about that. There will be a competition here. I'm sure about that. This is good. I hope there will be a open source version that you could install on home server.
Microsoft wants to get as much money as possible from applications and "special features" running of their data centers. The thing is both Google and Microsoft are "jumping too far" in the future with this if they want to tie average consumer to their server side applications. Why ? Most of the people still don't have network connection fast enough to support this kind of Internet applications. Evolution is going this way but it can't happen before large numbers of people get optical cables to their homes. Bandwidth,is the key. Most of the people are used to get very rich programs from their computers already. Right now this kind of applications can run only from computers and local-home servers. This evolution already started with game consoles, smart phones, tablets with wifi support etc connected with home PC.
My point is don't worry about applications running strictly from servers. Microsoft might try to tie your application on them to make sure you bought your program and keep track of your application(but who cares I use Linux)..Google ?? Something much more then email or something similar to ftp program for storing large amounts of data won't work. PLEASE UPLOAD ONLY FILES SMALLER THEN 5 MB AND MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE AS MUCH VITAL INFORMATIONS ABOUT YOU AS POSSIBLE ??:)))
First you need natural demand for this kind of applications and this demand doesn't exist yet because of low average bandwidth people have.
ON THE END THIS TREND EXISTS AND IT IS A THREAT TO PERSONAL FREEDOM. If you really want to stop this uncontrolled server side applications in the future AND THAT COULD AND WILL HAPPEN support applications like eyeOS that I recently installed or other open source server side applications that you could install on home servers and see and control your CODE.
When they ware talking about support I was talking about company's that could retrain this large number of people using this new office software. The truth is there is just a few small company's offering Open Office training in our language right now. It's a small company and the only company offering this kind of training (low demand) in our country so prices for Open Office courses are variable because there is no market that could control/lower price. This is the kind of support I was talking about. I know there is no problem with technical support for Open Office. It's true even with Microsoft's new versions of Office suite they have to retrain people.
Gradual adoption of Open Office could be even cheaper. Just install Open Office besides MS Office...right ??Where is the catch? If they do that they spoil partnership with Microsoft what will on the end probably raise prices for MS software/computer.
We all know it's all about keeping a good relationship with Microsoft that they depend on.That's probably also why they don't put public documents on.gov sites. Good old vendor lock in.So ideal transformation to ODF would be.
-give them a good way to convert old.doc documents to ODF (large scale document conversion)
-have a large number of teachers for Open Office suite in the country
-switch without raising prices for MS software that they still depend on (this is probably the RISK they didn't mention in report)
-good technical support (that probably isn't such a big problem)
-more Munich examples to convince them to switch to new OS (so that MS dependency doesn't exist any more)
-awareness of existence of Open Office suite in the country
Just in case you don't know Slovenia has largest percent of Firefox users in the world http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-US/Technicals/index- 1-2-3-52.html so trust in OSS in general is high.The truth is most people don't even know they are using OSS with Firefox they just know it works.
Yeah I know that. I think they want to have Open Office support on Windows OS not on Linux. The RISK is about small number of company's that support Open Office (there is no real market here so prices for support are very variable). The ideal company would be based here in Slovenia with strong ties to Open Office developers with training,and support especially on document conversion from doc to odf. They are also considering their own team of Open Office experts.
The truth is that every country in EU made their own study on office software. I live in Slovenia and I just found similar study comparing transition of government 11.800 workstations to Open Office. It clearly says NO to open source for 3 years. It's a document dating 14.11.2005. This study has a conclusion that migrating software from MS to Open Office is possible and functionality of both packages are more then enough for government needs. The things that changed their mind and are considered greater risk that brings higher costs over this 3 year period are:
- retraining people
- doc-> odf conversion (especially concerned about automatic conversion of documents-especially macros in doc files)
- and of course very concerned about support (there is no company's supporting Open Office - or they have no real business plans) what they see as the greatest risk migrating to ODF !!
This is 5 page document giving some numbers WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATIONS where those numbers came from. The only thing I noticed is that they ware waiting what happens in Munich at the time.They clearly know for IDABC initiative for ODF - ISO format. Their strategy is making public tenders to create support Open Office.
What I'm really concerned about is that there is no plan for gradual adoption of ODF. If there is a serious intent for adopting ODF I'd expect at least.gov sites offering ODF formats as well as.doc and.pdf. THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE REAL TRANSITION SHOULD START AS WELL AS INSTALLING OPEN OFFICE ON GOV COMPUTERS FOR TESTING AND GRADUAL ADOPTION.
Anyway I see this document as excuse to FLOSS community without any REAL intent to change things in the future.
This is the real picture of FLOSS support in EU. The point is that country's in EU take this reports as consideration but on the end they make their own conclusions based on MS deals because they can't make or don't want to make a real cost comparison.
Like someone already mentioned they are probably switching standard capacitors with tantalum capacitors...AND THAT'S IT. The only difference here is that usually motherboards with standard Electrolytic capacitors as mentioned before can and will dry up in the future on every motherboard. Especially cheap motherboards tend to do that very often. Capacity of this kind of capacitor gets lower and resistance (how quickly capacitor is taking and releasing current gets higher). Capacitor is overheating. Capacitor is usually put in the circuit to dump the voltage drops providing necessary energy on the spot that needs +- constant voltage. CPU and BUS controllers are one of those things that really need large amounts of energy right away...(maybe some other stuff that I don't know about) So THOSE (and only those) capacitors on RIGHT PLACE in the circuit are the one that should be different - Tantalum for over clocking...RIGHT ?? But when you are overclocking you could probably need much bigger capacitors on those places not only different kind of capacitors.Sometimes just because electroly. cap. are so slow we use combination of capacitors (cheaper but sufficient). So if I make a proper conclusion over this subject...Solid capacitors don't dry up thus providing much longer life to the motherboard (servers and such - PROBABLY) but electrolyte capacitors are good enough if they are good quality (and sometimes even more reliable).So this post is a FUD. I wonder if their color will be purple maybe they will use green I don't know...Maybe they will use polyester capacitors making them even bigger...but when those no life wannabe geek sees this motherboard will buy one of those cause they have a special feature. And that is SAD. My advice ??? Well buy something that is thoroughly tested and company has a good reputation. THAT'S IT
I think the most important thing around here is that community behind Linux OS will have to listen to their requests. I'm sure there is a Linux enthusiast behind this idea not only TCO. I'm sure they need a custom software for parliament too. If you really want this project to succeed we will have to listen to what they say and help them with what they need to get this project running.So if I have to make a point here...don't just fight about who is right and who is wrong but help this "guy" to make it work.
Slashdot Mirror
Now let's wait for Slashdot after effect. Here is even more curious people than on xkcd :)
Hm that was years ago ..try to do the same with new processors :) This days you need at least 50W of power. In those days 20W was enough :)
Yeah it's E70 and it works great. My father have this phone for work ....it's ok except perhaps that little joystick on top for mouse. And you can do some server administration if you have that Java app for terminal. Keyboard is awsame ! I wish it would be open and had Linux on top of it :( not Symbian.
is if solar panel this days is able to produce enough energy to create another solar panel. Energy from PV is clean but what about process for producing solar panels? Is it clean ? It's the same story with electric cars...etc. Just think !
Hm well ..just create current source and chop that current with NE555 (turn it on and off) or something like that so that average effective power stays under 200mW. Some diodes survive this and some don't I'm not sure which diode is used in DVD player so I can't tell you if this works on this diode...Anyway main idea is to feed that diode with higher current (you get higher power) for a very short period of time. Usually this diodes are in IR spectrum...
"200 mW will lead to permanent eye damage within 1 microsecond (!) of exposure" Hm perhaps it is dangerous to mention on /. but you can get a very high power out of this diodes with current source chopped so that effective power stays still in limits from the manufacturer. Something like 5W or more can be achieved for a short period of time on a 200 mW diode. Now this laser has a much higher range. You can probably blind Martians with such device :) Anyway this involves some more knowledge of electronics so not every kid can do that...that's why I think it's safe to mention it here. They use this technique in medicine for healing (not eyes)
You can try one of those WebOS already. EyeOS is one of them ...the thing is that OSS community should start working on this kind of software soon. Fear goes away if we can download and change code for this kind of software. It's not about large companies having more bandwidth. It's about this simple question.. Can we install this software ( OSS ) on our own servers on our local network and then use low power terminals for word processing etc from there?
This configuration is what I have in mind for a modern small scale robot.(Small scale because it doesn't have large memory storage on board ) Unfortunately this kind of robot is totally useless without a huge database , server and wireless connection. Robot with this hardware configuration IS a robot!!! I go crazy when I see people wasting time with something like 2 servo motors , small cpu like 8051 with 2k of memory and few sensors that help em not to bump into a first obstacle. Please use your imagination and time for something better.There is still lot's of stupid coffee, washing machines out there to make em smarter.I just don't understand why most of the people want to create such a stupid robot first thing when they learn how to program MCU's.Anyway I hope database and software will be open for others to hook up with it in the future so this robot hungry hobbyists can create something useful. Check http://www.fira.net/. Those robots are connected to central computer with wireless connection and play soccer.
I think you are right. That WAS most common Firefox/Opera source here too in the early days. But still I think without community support it wouldn't be so popular as it is.
Just to confirm his identity ...I know this guy from college and he really maintains those sites.
I was wondering why exactly this happened in our country.This is the country closely tied to Microsoft for many years.Average people don't even know there is alternative to Windows OS. We are probably the most "Windows Desktop conservative" country in the world. Most of the people don't know there is alternative to Windows! I'm sure this wide adoption has lot to do with good support from Mozilla team in our country http://mozilla.lugos.si/ and Firefox supporters trying to explain benefits of Firefox from early beginnings.
:)) Perhaps ODF? Maybe OS war ? I was wondering if this has anything to do with R.Stallman visiting Slovenia and Croatia http://www.lugos.si/lugos/rms2000/pic/RMS-2000-10- 14/ looks very suspicious :))) Maybe we need Linus Torvalds now to help us win OS war or maybe Mark Suttleworth he seems more like a desktop guy :))) Anyway thanks to Mozilla team and to all Firefox and OSS fans in our country.
So in a way we won but war is not over YET. There is still 58% of computers without Firefox around.The good thing is this percentage can't be ignored from web developers any more. There is almost no Firefox incompatible web pages. Next "war" please ??...
I've seen so terribly dusted heat sinks that air wasn't flowing by at all..Pimp my PC folks excluded :))
I'm sure I have at least 2 kA current from ankle to brains that can produce heat.So P=I^2*R=m*c*delta(T) right..So you suggest that heat from current in my nerves should be visible on thermal camera ??? Damn that stupid. Stick a needle in your nerve put a nice high gain amplifier ....no that sounds like torture...perhaps voltage coming out of the nerves is so high that you can measure it on the skin on some places. The answer for this people will come when they'll understand why we use transformers in power systems :))
Q1 : Why do we want Dell selling preinstalled Linux PC's and where is his target market ?
A1. we want to see wide Linux adoption
A2. we are just tired to put together our own Linux compatible computers
A3. we are tired of checking for hardware compatibility for laptops
A4. only Dell or some other powerful PC vendor like IBM/Lenovo could make some pressure on the hardware manufacturers to make Linux drivers or give specifications which on the end could make a better hardware support
Q2 : Why Dell doesn't want to help us ?
A1. They are struggling on their market already with win based PC and investment wouldn't return much money (in the beginning)
A2. there isn't very large demand for Dells computers with Linux preinstalled no matter what happened on Idea storm
A3. Windows dell deal / partnership (not really sure about this being an obstacle)
A4. Dell doesn't recognize benefits of Linux software or potential killer apps(they are wrong but probably what they think)
A5. additional Linux support team(at least that's the way they see things) you need specific Linux distribution experts
A6. when you are launching new product you need right people to hear about your product and why is this product good 4. So there is also a problem with cost of marketing.
A7. driver problems and proper support for hardware (they could write their own drivers which cost $,wait for the community to make drivers (time+good hardware specifications))
Q3:What could Dell do about this demand?
A1: Try to convince hardware vendors to give specifications for hardware to community or make drivers even though
A2: Start selling PC's without anything preinstalled in the beginning.
A3: Accept Linux compatible lable and put it on their PC's with no OS preinstalled this is very important step!!
Q4:What could community do to change things 4 Dell
A1: A lot! One of the most important things is making the label from Q3:A3 !!!
A2: Give your laptops to your wives sisters / colleges and judge by their responses and make things work for them.
A3: Make Beryl stable enough to get free advertising from the beginning of Linux deployment.
A4: Make Linux more useful
A5: Listen to the early adopters and their needs not just wait to get over the learning curve like we did.Not just be happy to know more then others on some matters. Help them with proper GUI (xorg.conf gui editor 4 example)
A6: Don't give new users RTMF (that's really not good) but help them
A7: Establish a list of Distributions in given time that have large user base who could make Q4:A1 possible
A8: Make package managers more beautiful - just like CNR on Linspire !!
A9: Distributions should have well preconfigured apps to run on the system and should be self explanatory(so that early adopters don't need to read manuals too much)
A10: Good GUI look and functionality is extremely important in apps and on desktop systems eye candy,eye candy,eye candy even though it's not particularity useful and sometimes takes too much time!!
A11: Linux community itself doesn't see the power in their hands yet that's the biggest problem.If all people using Linux web servers would put a commercial on their homepage advertising Linux/Linux Desktop on a particular day in the year in thanks to the Linux community I'm sure people would know about Linux and demand for Linux desktops would grow rapidly.
This is just my point of view. Please change me where I'm wrong
Java Applets are not that beautiful compared to flash that's the only reason. They work better then flash...but on the end end users judge web applets by look. It's that simple :)
True ...but first you need decent voltage to make it run trough your skin. Cause normal human resistance is about 10k Ohm. And thus I= U / R ...here you go :) So first you need voltage. And usually you can't measure static electricity with normal equipment or it is dropping constantly ...So it must be some other reason AC voltage right ???
Overheating ?? I mean article was about getting 130V AC on his laptop while charging :) I mean that could kill you .... It's probably just bad grounding like someone said but still that's not good. I'm sure this is just a manufacturing mistake ... But check voltage on those screws maybe there's more "mistakes"..and you could get a brand new laptop from Dell. Just be nice tho them !!
I don't know about that. There will be a competition here. I'm sure about that. This is good. I hope there will be a open source version that you could install on home server.
Hmm oh come on you wanna melt all the ice and kill all those pretty penguins !! You bad boy...
Microsoft wants to get as much money as possible from applications and "special features" running of their data centers. The thing is both Google and Microsoft are "jumping too far" in the future with this if they want to tie average consumer to their server side applications. Why ? Most of the people still don't have network connection fast enough to support this kind of Internet applications. Evolution is going this way but it can't happen before large numbers of people get optical cables to their homes. Bandwidth,is the key. Most of the people are used to get very rich programs from their computers already. Right now this kind of applications can run only from computers and local-home servers. This evolution already started with game consoles, smart phones, tablets with wifi support etc connected with home PC .
:)))
My point is don't worry about applications running strictly from servers. Microsoft might try to tie your application on them to make sure you bought your program and keep track of your application(but who cares I use Linux)..Google ?? Something much more then email or something similar to ftp program for storing large amounts of data won't work. PLEASE UPLOAD ONLY FILES SMALLER THEN 5 MB AND MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE AS MUCH VITAL INFORMATIONS ABOUT YOU AS POSSIBLE ??
First you need natural demand for this kind of applications and this demand doesn't exist yet because of low average bandwidth people have.
ON THE END THIS TREND EXISTS AND IT IS A THREAT TO PERSONAL FREEDOM. If you really want to stop this uncontrolled server side applications in the future AND THAT COULD AND WILL HAPPEN support applications like eyeOS that I recently installed or other open source server side applications that you could install on home servers and see and control your CODE.
When they ware talking about support I was talking about company's that could retrain this large number of people using this new office software. The truth is there is just a few small company's offering Open Office training in our language right now. It's a small company and the only company offering this kind of training (low demand) in our country so prices for Open Office courses are variable because there is no market that could control/lower price. This is the kind of support I was talking about. I know there is no problem with technical support for Open Office. It's true even with Microsoft's new versions of Office suite they have to retrain people.
.gov sites. Good old vendor lock in.So ideal transformation to ODF would be.
.doc documents to ODF (large scale document conversion)
- 1-2-3-52.html so trust in OSS in general is high.The truth is most people don't even know they are using OSS with Firefox they just know it works.
Gradual adoption of Open Office could be even cheaper. Just install Open Office besides MS Office...right ??Where is the catch? If they do that they spoil partnership with Microsoft what will on the end probably raise prices for MS software/computer.
We all know it's all about keeping a good relationship with Microsoft that they depend on.That's probably also why they don't put public documents on
-give them a good way to convert old
-have a large number of teachers for Open Office suite in the country
-switch without raising prices for MS software that they still depend on (this is probably the RISK they didn't mention in report)
-good technical support (that probably isn't such a big problem)
-more Munich examples to convince them to switch to new OS (so that MS dependency doesn't exist any more)
-awareness of existence of Open Office suite in the country
Just in case you don't know Slovenia has largest percent of Firefox users in the world http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-US/Technicals/index
Yeah I know that. I think they want to have Open Office support on Windows OS not on Linux. The RISK is about small number of company's that support Open Office (there is no real market here so prices for support are very variable). The ideal company would be based here in Slovenia with strong ties to Open Office developers with training,and support especially on document conversion from doc to odf. They are also considering their own team of Open Office experts.
The truth is that every country in EU made their own study on office software. I live in Slovenia and I just found similar study comparing transition of government 11.800 workstations to Open Office. It clearly says NO to open source for 3 years. It's a document dating 14.11.2005. This study has a conclusion that migrating software from MS to Open Office is possible and functionality of both packages are more then enough for government needs. The things that changed their mind and are considered greater risk that brings higher costs over this 3 year period are:
.gov sites offering ODF formats as well as .doc and .pdf. THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE REAL TRANSITION SHOULD START AS WELL AS INSTALLING OPEN OFFICE ON GOV COMPUTERS FOR TESTING AND GRADUAL ADOPTION.
- retraining people
- doc-> odf conversion (especially concerned about automatic conversion of documents-especially macros in doc files)
- and of course very concerned about support (there is no company's supporting Open Office - or they have no real business plans) what they see as the greatest risk migrating to ODF !!
This is 5 page document giving some numbers WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATIONS where those numbers came from. The only thing I noticed is that they ware waiting what happens in Munich at the time.They clearly know for IDABC initiative for ODF - ISO format. Their strategy is making public tenders to create support Open Office.
What I'm really concerned about is that there is no plan for gradual adoption of ODF. If there is a serious intent for adopting ODF I'd expect at least
Anyway I see this document as excuse to FLOSS community without any REAL intent to change things in the future.
This is the real picture of FLOSS support in EU. The point is that country's in EU take this reports as consideration but on the end they make their own conclusions based on MS deals because they can't make or don't want to make a real cost comparison.
Like someone already mentioned they are probably switching standard capacitors with tantalum capacitors...AND THAT'S IT. The only difference here is that usually motherboards with standard Electrolytic capacitors as mentioned before can and will dry up in the future on every motherboard. Especially cheap motherboards tend to do that very often. Capacity of this kind of capacitor gets lower and resistance (how quickly capacitor is taking and releasing current gets higher). Capacitor is overheating. Capacitor is usually put in the circuit to dump the voltage drops providing necessary energy on the spot that needs +- constant voltage. CPU and BUS controllers are one of those things that really need large amounts of energy right away...(maybe some other stuff that I don't know about) So THOSE (and only those) capacitors on RIGHT PLACE in the circuit are the one that should be different - Tantalum for over clocking...RIGHT ?? But when you are overclocking you could probably need much bigger capacitors on those places not only different kind of capacitors.Sometimes just because electroly. cap. are so slow we use combination of capacitors (cheaper but sufficient). So if I make a proper conclusion over this subject...Solid capacitors don't dry up thus providing much longer life to the motherboard (servers and such - PROBABLY) but electrolyte capacitors are good enough if they are good quality (and sometimes even more reliable).So this post is a FUD. I wonder if their color will be purple maybe they will use green I don't know...Maybe they will use polyester capacitors making them even bigger ...but when those no life wannabe geek sees this motherboard will buy one of those cause they have a special feature. And that is SAD. My advice ??? Well buy something that is thoroughly tested and company has a good reputation. THAT'S IT
I think the most important thing around here is that community behind Linux OS will have to listen to their requests. I'm sure there is a Linux enthusiast behind this idea not only TCO. I'm sure they need a custom software for parliament too. If you really want this project to succeed we will have to listen to what they say and help them with what they need to get this project running.So if I have to make a point here...don't just fight about who is right and who is wrong but help this "guy" to make it work.