Western World did freak when China got the bomb. But because they could do nothing about it without igniting WW3 they learned to live with it. Chinese can be pretty openly racist , they do sponsor terrorists (google Chinese support naxalite). Pakistan and North Korea which have nuclear weapons and shown pretty bad behavior actually receive aid. In general countries get away with more, if they have the capability to inflict a suitably high amount of pain on those who want to oppose them. It has nothing to do with whether a country acts as a "grown up".
"Only" $70? at more than 50 million ipads sold that's $3.5 Billion in additional costs.. And the cost is probably more -- the 50 million number is from a while back.
This is something I have been reading about for years. Google water violations with major meat processors and you will get your sources. You will find several articles over the years for them For example, these are some I tried
Swift beef water violations
Tyson chicken water violations
Cargill water violations.
IBP Pork water violation (not sure which ones predate the time they were bought over by Tyson though)
The economist jumped the shark a long time back. Their $5 / barrel prediction should have been a warning but I remained an avid reader, until they endorsed GW Bush after it had become clear he had lied about the iraq war (in contrast they had asked Bill Clinton to resign for the Monica affair/lying). After that I noticed that their conservative slant interfered with their reporting a lot - a lot of their foreign reporting is terrible (Exiled online had detailed takedowns of their Russian reporting). Many of their economic predictions were wrong (still waiting for the implosion of china, which they predicated for more than a decade, their support for austrian economics is not panning out well). Many of their features are still decent, but by and large stick to the various economics blogs.
If you've seen a lot of H-1, L-1 Visa holders... just ask them about the process. Going through the process is a pain. A lot of people still want to come to the US, but compared to 10 years ago, many of the most skilled among them no longer want to come. For the applicants of approx 100K H1 visas, this is particularly true.
It is probably a waste discussing the caste system -- it needs a degree of starting knowledge on the subject that you clearly do not have.
I mean even for flamebait the question is pretty stupid (Incidentally, The term Untouchable is considered to be in bad taste by most indians, particularly the dalits themselves).
There can be an argument that dalits have unfair disadvantages in today's Indian society (and also arguments that they have unfair advantages as well), adn it is true that for many of them life is terrible. However, compared to pre-Independence India though, democracy has been working out really well for them. Dalits have had tremendous upward mobility in the last 50 years and a huge in political power. As for rape, if you are american, you should be embarrassed to even bring up the topic -- ahref=http://askville.amazon.com/top-10-countries-world-amounts-violence-women-children/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=58338882rel=url2html-15557http://askville.amazon.com/top-10-countries-world-amounts-violence-women-children/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=58338882>
That is not true. Visa restrictions have become extremely difficult over the last two administrations. Far more information is collected. People are now fingerprinted on entering the united states. There is far more scrutiny . The number of rejections has gone through the roof. Certainly a large part of this is security theater, but it does make it somewhat harder for terrorists to come over (if only because it is harder for anyone to come over).
The army does not maintain law and order. The police does. And India's police force is woefully undermanned.
ahref=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_police_forcesrel=url2html-26389http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_police_forces>
What to look for: not the total size (given billion+ people and all that it has to be large) but Police per 100,000 people.
Freedom of speech in India is far weaker that what most Indians think it is. Prominent people are regularly arrested for exercising free speech, by making speeches, making politically incorrect statements, burning copies of the constitution, writing articles, etc)
To take a recent example, an opposition leader who played a part in exposing India's largest corruption case, has an arrest warrant out on him because he wrote this article in July Analysis: How to wipe out Islamic terror (the article seems to have been removed from the online version of the newspaper itself)
Censorship does not directly affect most people in India not because of free speech protections (which are very weak), but because the government is not strong enough to impose it on everyone.
The threat to internet freedom is not from and Indian version of the great wall of china, but from the possibility that, to protect their business opportunities in India, Internet companies will bend over to accommodate the govt of India. If history is any indication, the people in India will protest very loudly for a few days, then get distracted by the latest celebrity scandal . Ultimately they will adjust to one less freedom (the infamous attitude we term as "Chalta Hai") and forget about it.
The MP3 player market lasted far longer than what you think it did. MP3 players were introduced in 1998. Though it was small compared to today, they had a sizable following almost immediately, since a large number of people already had mp3s on their PC, but no way to play them.
Apple entered the market late, after the market had already been established, with many of the legal problems sorted. But apple entered the market with an innovative offering that expanded the market exponentially. Microsoft on the other hand entered it even later, did nothing to grow the market and basically offered an iPOD clone. The MP3 player market is still large, even though many of the higher end customers now use smartphones as their MP3 player. Microsoft can still try again. The problem is simply that MS has become so addicted to copying the market leaders that does not have the skills to launch a successful innovative product on its own anymore.
I think you do not quite understand the meaning of peaceful protest. Peaceful is not the same as legal. From as far back as Gandhi, occupying a space, has been a tactic used by non-violent protesters. As far as protests go OWS has been one of the more subdued protests. There is some disruption in the wall street area, but not that much. This is just the govt's way of saying, we have allowed you your 15 mins of fame, now go away. Legally the NYC govt is in its right to do so, but there is something disturbing in the manner that the govt considers that even such innocuous protests are not to be tolerated.
Basically Gibson has violated Madagascar and US export laws to curb illegal logging of rosewood.
India has nothing to do with this. Just because Madagascar is a country in the Indian Ocean does not make it part of India. Madagascar basically has a severe problem of illegal logging of Rosewood. and is cracking down on it. The law allowing the export of finished woods is basically a way to reduce the stocks of confiscated logs slowly while helping those who have been badly affected by this logging. (they are also exploring the possibility
The fact that Gibson brought India into the conversion is a ploy to use the boogeyman of off-shoring to defend itself and to distract people from the fact that they were caught using stolen goods. The fact that so many responded to with reaction that basically went "OMG! OFFSHORING! INDIA! EVIL FEDS" showed that the ploy worked.
I doubt if futures markets are the reason OPEC accept only dollars. After all, in the early 2000s, Iraq decided to replace dollars with Euros. I am sure political considerations play a major role.
Moto Droid 1 off Craigslist: $125
Simple phone / Very Limited (50 MB) data capable plan (pageplus): $30
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I would have been a dumb phone user paying $50/month, if I had not seen a/. comment about the plan. Now 6/7 months down the line I'm ahead of the average dumbphone user.
Dumb phones dominate because dumbphone users are either resistant to change or do not know better.
As for protecting the rights of its people, a cursory look even in the YRO in slashdot itself, shows that the US is no paragon of virtue today, and that it is heading in the wrong direction.
It's a stark reminder that you're mostly a bunch of ignoramuses...
The parents arguments still hold. Wikileaks may release larger chunks of information, but is'nt that a given considering that the horde of information that wiki-leaks has is far larger than the Pentagon Papers?
The fact remains that Wikileaks has withheld and redacted a lot of information voluntarily and permanently. http://www.wikileaksforum.net/ in fact has a thread on redactions which they feel should not have been performed.
"The Pentagon Papers were held back for over a decade to protect diplomatic relations."
To make a couple of simple points:
Ellsberg->1970s NYT::: Manning->Wikileaks. If you want to be consistent, blame Manning for not showing Ellsberg's restraint, do not blame Wikileaks.
NYT is US based. Wikileaks is not. Why the heck should Wikileaks care about US Diplomatic relations? American diplomatic power has often coerced it allies into taking actions that were against their national interest, against the will of their citizens and sometimes against their laws. Even without being a 1st amendment fundamentalist, it could be argued that reduction of the US ability to do things in the dark diplomatically is not a bad thing for most countries.
Weaker woman's tournaments are the reason, Judit Polgar, the strongest ever woman chess player does not compete in women's only tournaments.
On the flip side, I seem to recall her sister, Susan Polgar (who was a Woman's world champion herself) write in favor of having a woman's only field as well. Her argument was having only mixed tournaments, would lead to vicious cycle.
Basically, she thought that if there were no women's only tournaments, a lot of women players would perform badly and a lot of them would not get a chance to qualify to play, and as a result would drop out of chess.This would discourage a lot of women entering the field. The diminishing size of the pool of players would in turn lead to fewer high ranking womens players, and so on.
Kasparov at 22 became the youngest unified chess champion. But he is not the youngest ever -- Ruslan Ponomariov won the Fide chess championship in 2002 (during the split, in a knockout format).He was 18 at the time.
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The Time man of the year award, is a silly recognition that no one cares about anymore, other than to point something to snicker at. (remember the silly foil on the cover with the award going to "You" sometime back).
Besides, more often than not, being selected as the time man of the year has been kiss of death for the person's influence / career. I definitely prefer that fate to occur to Zuckerberg rather than to Assange:-).
Very few features actually are dependent on a data plan.
I have a Motorola droid 1 (bought second hand for ~$150) on a voice and text plan.
(although technically I do get 50mb of data in my plan.)
I can get internet access through wifi. That gets me all the internet access I need for email and Facebook and basic news feeds.
Most of my phone uses are offline --
My main use of my Android phone is for music (it plays flac while my itouch does not.) I also use the maps features while traveling as a GPS substitute (mapdryoid). I use the games on it often and sometimes the ereader.
I would like to get a data plan, except that almost all data plans in the US are a rip off.
Think of it this way: the person running the place comes to know of the conversation. It will hurt only if this boss is immature or if the conversations are of a type that should not have occurred. It might hurt the people having the conversation, but it will not hurt the boss.
Assange's work is ultimately not harmful, because in a democracy, the people are supposed to the ultimate boss.
by and large the list should not come as a surprise to anyone.
As for potential damage, this can be a good thing as well as a bad thing.
If the government publicizes the list and its ramifications, then people will realize that spending additional billions upon billions on security in airports and airlines for ever diminishing returns is an utter waste of money, and the money can be better used.
If they do not use this information, then the only
Ultimately, a lot of the wikileaks information was kinda known to folks in the field that a leak covered, and to news junkies.
Wikileaks still adds value because it has removed uncertainty in a lot of discussion, and this should help bring clarity to even the experts thinking.
But mainly wikileaks is a test of civil society. Our society has been making a lot of bad decisions, bad on bad information. Wikileaks has now given the layman easy access to a lot of useful, accurate information.
Whether people use it to get rid of bad policies and build a better society is a test for them and the governments that they voted to rule them.
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Western World did freak when China got the bomb. But because they could do nothing about it without igniting WW3 they learned to live with it. Chinese can be pretty openly racist , they do sponsor terrorists (google Chinese support naxalite). Pakistan and North Korea which have nuclear weapons and shown pretty bad behavior actually receive aid. In general countries get away with more, if they have the capability to inflict a suitably high amount of pain on those who want to oppose them. It has nothing to do with whether a country acts as a "grown up".
"Only" $70? at more than 50 million ipads sold that's $3.5 Billion in additional costs.. And the cost is probably more -- the 50 million number is from a while back.
This is something I have been reading about for years. Google water violations with major meat processors and you will get your sources. You will find several articles over the years for them For example, these are some I tried
Swift beef water violations
Tyson chicken water violations
Cargill water violations.
IBP Pork water violation (not sure which ones predate the time they were bought over by Tyson though)
The economist jumped the shark a long time back. Their $5 / barrel prediction should have been a warning but I remained an avid reader, until they endorsed GW Bush after it had become clear he had lied about the iraq war (in contrast they had asked Bill Clinton to resign for the Monica affair/lying).
After that I noticed that their conservative slant interfered with their reporting a lot - a lot of their foreign reporting is terrible (Exiled online had detailed takedowns of their Russian reporting). Many of their economic predictions were wrong (still waiting for the implosion of china, which they predicated for more than a decade, their support for austrian economics is not panning out well).
Many of their features are still decent, but by and large stick to the various economics blogs.
If you've seen a lot of H-1, L-1 Visa holders ... just ask them about the process.
Going through the process is a pain. A lot of people still want to come to the US, but compared to 10 years ago, many of the most skilled among them no longer want to come. For the applicants of approx 100K H1 visas, this is particularly true.
It is probably a waste discussing the caste system -- it needs a degree of starting knowledge on the subject that you clearly do not have.
I mean even for flamebait the question is pretty stupid (Incidentally, The term Untouchable is considered to be in bad taste by most indians, particularly the dalits themselves).
There can be an argument that dalits have unfair disadvantages in today's Indian society (and also arguments that they have unfair advantages as well), adn it is true that for many of them life is terrible.
However, compared to pre-Independence India though, democracy has been working out really well for them. Dalits have had tremendous upward mobility in the last 50 years and a huge in political power. As for rape, if you are american, you should be embarrassed to even bring up the topic -- ahref=http://askville.amazon.com/top-10-countries-world-amounts-violence-women-children/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=58338882rel=url2html-15557http://askville.amazon.com/top-10-countries-world-amounts-violence-women-children/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=58338882>
That is not true. Visa restrictions have become extremely difficult over the last two administrations. Far more information is collected. People are now fingerprinted on entering the united states. There is far more scrutiny . The number of rejections has gone through the roof. Certainly a large part of this is security theater, but it does make it somewhat harder for terrorists to come over (if only because it is harder for anyone to come over).
The army does not maintain law and order. The police does. And India's police force is woefully undermanned.
ahref=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_police_forcesrel=url2html-26389http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_police_forces>
What to look for: not the total size (given billion+ people and all that it has to be large) but Police per 100,000 people.
Freedom of speech in India is far weaker that what most Indians think it is. Prominent people are regularly arrested for exercising free speech, by making speeches, making politically incorrect statements, burning copies of the constitution, writing articles, etc)
To take a recent example, an opposition leader who played a part in exposing India's largest corruption case, has an arrest warrant out on him because he wrote this article in July Analysis: How to wipe out Islamic terror (the article seems to have been removed from the online version of the newspaper itself)
Censorship does not directly affect most people in India not because of free speech protections (which are very weak), but because the government is not strong enough to impose it on everyone.
The threat to internet freedom is not from and Indian version of the great wall of china, but from the possibility that, to protect their business opportunities in India, Internet companies will bend over to accommodate the govt of India. If history is any indication, the people in India will protest very loudly for a few days, then get distracted by the latest celebrity scandal . Ultimately they will adjust to one less freedom (the infamous attitude we term as "Chalta Hai") and forget about it.
The MP3 player market lasted far longer than what you think it did.
MP3 players were introduced in 1998. Though it was small compared to today, they had a sizable following almost immediately, since a large number of people already had mp3s on their PC, but no way to play them.
Apple entered the market late, after the market had already been established, with many of the legal problems sorted. But apple entered the market with an innovative offering that expanded the market exponentially.
Microsoft on the other hand entered it even later, did nothing to grow the market and basically offered an iPOD clone. The MP3 player market is still large, even though many of the higher end customers now use smartphones as their MP3 player. Microsoft can still try again. The problem is simply that MS has become so addicted to copying the market leaders that does not have the skills to launch a successful innovative product on its own anymore.
I think you do not quite understand the meaning of peaceful protest. Peaceful is not the same as legal. From as far back as Gandhi, occupying a space, has been a tactic used by non-violent protesters. As far as protests go OWS has been one of the more subdued protests. There is some disruption in the wall street area, but not that much. This is just the govt's way of saying, we have allowed you your 15 mins of fame, now go away. Legally the NYC govt is in its right to do so, but there is something disturbing in the manner that the govt considers that even such innocuous protests are not to be tolerated.
Basically Gibson has violated Madagascar and US export laws to curb illegal logging of rosewood.
India has nothing to do with this. Just because Madagascar is a country in the Indian Ocean does not make it part of India.
Madagascar basically has a severe problem of illegal logging of Rosewood. and is cracking down on it. The law allowing the export of finished woods is basically a way to reduce the stocks of confiscated logs slowly while helping those who have been badly affected by this logging. (they are also exploring the possibility
The fact that Gibson brought India into the conversion is a ploy to use the boogeyman of off-shoring to defend itself and to distract people from the fact that they were caught using stolen goods. The fact that so many responded to with reaction that basically went "OMG! OFFSHORING! INDIA! EVIL FEDS" showed that the ploy worked.
I doubt if futures markets are the reason OPEC accept only dollars. After all, in the early 2000s, Iraq decided to replace dollars with Euros. I am sure political considerations play a major role.
Moto Droid 1 off Craigslist: $125 /. comment about the plan. Now 6/7 months down the line I'm ahead of the average dumbphone user.
Simple phone / Very Limited (50 MB) data capable plan (pageplus): $30
--
I would have been a dumb phone user paying $50/month, if I had not seen a
Dumb phones dominate because dumbphone users are either resistant to change or do not know better.
Because almost every thread eventually has a reference to Wikipedia in one of the comments. I think that counts as notable.
Fairly safe to say Whoosh
It treats the peple (sic) it works for well, it works to protect the rights of it's people, and has almost no corruption.
I guess you have not been paying attention to what has been going on.
The US is no longer in the best 20 countries as far as corruption is concerned
As for protecting the rights of its people, a cursory look even in the YRO in slashdot itself, shows that the US is no paragon of virtue today, and that it is heading in the wrong direction.
It's a stark reminder that you're mostly a bunch of ignoramuses ...
Oh, the irony.....
The parents arguments still hold. Wikileaks may release larger chunks of information, but is'nt that a given considering that the horde of information that wiki-leaks has is far larger than the Pentagon Papers?
:: Manning->Wikileaks. If you want to be consistent, blame Manning for not showing Ellsberg's restraint, do not blame Wikileaks.
The fact remains that Wikileaks has withheld and redacted a lot of information voluntarily and permanently.
http://www.wikileaksforum.net/ in fact has a thread on redactions which they feel should not have been performed.
"The Pentagon Papers were held back for over a decade to protect diplomatic relations."
To make a couple of simple points:
Ellsberg->1970s NYT:
NYT is US based. Wikileaks is not. Why the heck should Wikileaks care about US Diplomatic relations? American diplomatic power has often coerced it allies into taking actions that were against their national interest, against the will of their citizens and sometimes against their laws.
Even without being a 1st amendment fundamentalist, it could be argued that reduction of the US ability to do things in the dark diplomatically is not a bad thing for most countries.
Weaker woman's tournaments are the reason, Judit Polgar, the strongest ever woman chess player does not compete in women's only tournaments. On the flip side, I seem to recall her sister, Susan Polgar (who was a Woman's world champion herself) write in favor of having a woman's only field as well. Her argument was having only mixed tournaments, would lead to vicious cycle. Basically, she thought that if there were no women's only tournaments, a lot of women players would perform badly and a lot of them would not get a chance to qualify to play, and as a result would drop out of chess.This would discourage a lot of women entering the field. The diminishing size of the pool of players would in turn lead to fewer high ranking womens players, and so on.
Kasparov at 22 became the youngest unified chess champion. But he is not the youngest ever -- Ruslan Ponomariov won the Fide chess championship in 2002 (during the split, in a knockout format).He was 18 at the time.
Sarcasm is irony? Yeah, sure it is.
The Time man of the year award, is a silly recognition that no one cares about anymore, other than to point something to snicker at. (remember the silly foil on the cover with the award going to "You" sometime back). :-).
Besides, more often than not, being selected as the time man of the year has been kiss of death for the person's influence / career. I definitely prefer that fate to occur to Zuckerberg rather than to Assange
Very few features actually are dependent on a data plan. I have a Motorola droid 1 (bought second hand for ~$150) on a voice and text plan. (although technically I do get 50mb of data in my plan.) I can get internet access through wifi. That gets me all the internet access I need for email and Facebook and basic news feeds. Most of my phone uses are offline -- My main use of my Android phone is for music (it plays flac while my itouch does not.) I also use the maps features while traveling as a GPS substitute (mapdryoid). I use the games on it often and sometimes the ereader. I would like to get a data plan, except that almost all data plans in the US are a rip off.
Think of it this way: the person running the place comes to know of the conversation. It will hurt only if this boss is immature or if the conversations are of a type that should not have occurred. It might hurt the people having the conversation, but it will not hurt the boss.
Assange's work is ultimately not harmful, because in a democracy, the people are supposed to the ultimate boss.
As GP said read up the details. Hint: If the victims do not think something was sexual assault (vs "sex by surprise") , it wasn't.
by and large the list should not come as a surprise to anyone.
As for potential damage, this can be a good thing as well as a bad thing.
If the government publicizes the list and its ramifications, then people will realize that spending additional billions upon billions on security in airports and airlines for ever diminishing returns is an utter waste of money, and the money can be better used.
If they do not use this information, then the only
Ultimately, a lot of the wikileaks information was kinda known to folks in the field that a leak covered, and to news junkies.
Wikileaks still adds value because it has removed uncertainty in a lot of discussion, and this should help bring clarity to even the experts thinking.
But mainly wikileaks is a test of civil society. Our society has been making a lot of bad decisions, bad on bad information. Wikileaks has now given the layman easy access to a lot of useful, accurate information.
Whether people use it to get rid of bad policies and build a better society is a test for them and the governments that they voted to rule them.