Assuming that you are correct in the idea that the DOJ is supposed to be a Congressional lap-dog (or lick-spittle), Congress is not a party to this case. Let me see if I understand you: if the corrupt, degenerate Congress passes a law encouraging the torture-murder of accused file-sharers, your position is that the DOJ should defend it? Yes?
So, if Congress in its infinite desire to gratify the fat-cats should pass a law re-instituting slavery, you think the f*ing DOJ should support it?!
Thirteenth Amendment:1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Fortunately, the Constitution still trumps those butt-licking retards in Congress (of both parties).
they will try other approaches to take away freedoms that we should all have and cherish
I think you've hit the nail of the head. To see what they really want, 1) download;-) and print a copy of your nation's Constitution and/or Bill of Rights. Then run it through a paper shredder. That's what they seem to want for starters. 2) Next get a REAAAAALLY BIG jar of petroleum jelly and a telephone pole... bend waaaay over.... 3) Finally, send the RIAA and MPAA an extra copy of all your credit cards and tell them to charge whatever they want. Beyond that it probably gets ugly.
This kind of stuff would have made Winston Smith's day job so much easier. Rewrite history then push it out so as to override previous copies. And the rulers of the Fahrenheit 451 world could simply revoke the digital certificate of... every book or every book with ideas they want suppressed. Sound like the media cartels' wet dream? It is, it is. And that of would-be tyrants? Even more so.
I was getting halfway interested in the Kindle until the 1984 debacle. That shows that DRM has a much darker potential than its proponents will ever acknowledge. Fuck all that shit. (Not picking on Amazon; I like it and have had an account there for years.) Corporations cannot be trusted to have any interest in freedom of any kind for the public. No doubt their accountants would show it as a negative (if intangible) item on their balance sheets.
The TOS Agreement looks pretty intimidating to me. Out of curiosity I pasted it into a blank Abiword doc. Seven pages of single spaced 12-point type. Legalese. If I need a $200-$500/hour lawyer to parse it for me, I'm not going to use it. Period. About five paragraphs in I started to get that deja vu feeling, as if I were at microsoft.com or something. Yuck.
Good luck on that if you have to go to court. SCO started its ant-Linux jihad in 2002, with no evidence, and as it turns out no standing to sue. It is seven years later and they are still not dead. How much longer do you suppose that MS can keep Gnome# in legal limbo-given their resources?
Good summary. I for one ain't that crazy about seeing my FSF dues going to host a MS/Silverlight ad. What's next, a rave review of Office 2010? Windows 8? Is MS so impoverished they can't afford to buy ads anymore? Wouldn't this be a better place for a Sliverblight endorsement? With all the money those parasites have, you'd think they'd be too ashamed to leech off of GNU!
As long as I'm ranting, Dear GNOME, if you find that the 4 freedoms make you philosophically uneasy, feel free to leave GNU. While you are at it why not re-write GNOME in.NET to work on the the NT kernel?! Won't be any skin off my butt, XFCE, KDE, and Fluxbox, are all better alternatives./end rant.
About your bruised feelings: Tough shit. Now, feel free to use your sock-puppets to mod me down: "-1 unympathetic."
Yep, me too (1950s &60s), also x and y coordinates; many books I read had a circumflex o in rôle... BTW for those that think "cooper" is a nonsense word, it is/was a barrel-maker, and cooperage is/was barrel-staves and steel or iron strapping.
I'm 59, and have been running a 17 inch CRT at 1280x1024 & usually have 4 -6 apps open at any given moment (just got a hand-me-down 19 inch widescreen (about 1360x 900). And, yes I do wear glasses. Meanwhile the 28-ish kid who does miscellaneous stuff (one application at a time) sometimes runs her 21 inch widescreen at 800x600. Her desktop icons look like beer coasters.
You know, like Mick Jagger, Elton John, Paul McCartney, Madonna, Celine Dione, & various other impoverished, downtrodden performers. The nerve of that wealthy, powerful stock clerk. She got away with it too, which is why the artists' protection organizations like RIAA and MPAA need the right to just kill suspected offenders without the bother of courts and trials.
I wold imagine they want to keep the lid on the techniques they are looking at for anti-counterfeiting.
Hmmh, seems like they could simply obscure that part of it by saying, "We got hyper-secret, techniques we refuse to talk about." That is almost plausible. Some of the criticism sugest that it will allow police-state powers to be mobilized against ordinary people for having backups of their music and software. The IP cartel is steadfastly opposed to such things.
What are the enforcement provisions? We don't know, and aren't going to be allowed to know--until it's too late. This is a mockery of any and all democratic principle. They are spitting in our faces. Of course, the non-democratic, and anti-democratic nations will love this, as it will strengthen their grips on their respective societies.
Furthermore, there seem to be provision aimed at setting up an independent ACTA organization which will above and not accountable to any national supervision. Copyright Geheime Staatspolizei anyone? If they are so afraid of going public, that everything must be hidden behind an iron curtain of secrecy, anything is plausible.
Miscellaneous links: Wikipedia ACTA criticism, EFF, KEIPatry. Patry observed that "extensive changes" would be necessary to U.S. law to bring it into compliance. How many years in prison would accused music downloaders be facing under ACTA? None of us knows. It's secret!!
Glad to see someone picked up on it.;-) That's what we were told when they started monitoring all e-mail and all phone calls: If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. Funny that lots of folk with "nothing to hide" have curtains, blinds, and don't want party line telephone service.
If ACTA has nothing to hide, why are they hiding. All this secrecy suggests that it is loaded with anti-freedom, corrupt, vile and unconstitutional provisions. What does this pile of... "stuff"... do repeal the Bill of Rights and the Magna Carta (insert your nation's equivalent here)? Anyone who values whatever freedom they have should be raising a stink.
I remember those. This is like drop-dead dates raised to the nth power. Paying off once won't get it, you just trade an early drop-dead date for a later drop-dead date- over, and over, and over. until they decide you must upgrade. Sounds really, really swell. Have fun, Microsoft lovers!;-) Glad I use Linux & BSD. What's next for MS, patenting "The GUI" and the CLI?
As for CodePlex: it turns out that there are two entities: CodePlex.ORG (owned by the Foundation) and CodePlex.Com (Owned by Microsoft, and has no affiliation with the foundation).
It is beyond unfortunate that the Foundation adopted the name from the hosting site. The logic apparently was "It is already a known brand". In my opinion, moving ahead with this name was a terrible decision as it is incredibly confusing, a point that I have raised with the board of directors.
It it possible that the "confabulated" names which you say you argued against (and I have no reason to doubt your word) are indicative of Microsoft's attitude towards you? Looks like contempt to me. Your mileage obviously varies.
AT&T tried to throttle BSD just like that. Turned out there was very little AT&T code in BSD and huge quantities of BSD code in AT&T, BSD code from which the BSD copyright attributions had "mysteriously" disappeared. AT&T dropped that suit while the dropping was good.
It's the people like Miguel who are trying to make Mono part of the mandatory fabric of Linux which are forcing the issue.
Thats the practical crux of the controversy for me. Miguel and the other mono-maniacs seem determined to forcibly inflict mono and its dependencies on the rest of us by making mono-apps default installs on every distro. F*** that. Fortunately, "apt-get remove --purge mono..." still works... for now. Believe me, I use it, too. Mono is why I'm using XFCE, KDE 4, and fluxbox now, Gnome's slavish adherence to Miguel and mono disgusts me. If/when Gnumeric gets monofied, I'll dump it, too. That would be a shame but no one ever told me that having principles was painless.
Frankly, I have more respect for Stallman and his principles than Miguel's cleverness and opportunism.
There's been cadres of flint-knappers at every craft show I've been to for the last 10 years. Their pieces typically range from $10 to $100 dollars. I've seen a pretty good reproduction of a fluted Clovis point knocked out on about 30 minutes work, Even as a reproduction, that would likely bring $200-500. An unscrupulous flint-knapper willing to bury his stuff in the backyard a couple of years and sell it as real (actually, they are real, they are just not old) could pocket thousands per piece.
Most knappers practice it for pleasure, I taught myself about... over 30 yrs ago. Great way to blow off steam, till you smash a finger. Bandages and protective glasses are highly recommended. Oh, and after the Big Crash, gun-nuts will run out of AK-47s to club one another to death with long before we run out of knappable stone.
Is this the same DOJ that has been packed with "ex" Microsoft lawyers? The same Microsoft that's run by some Mussolini-lookalike who's supposed to have said, "I'm gonna fucking kill Google!"
You assume every Microsoft employee is a liar, and malevolent.
And in what way is that wrong?... OK, maybe most of them are simply greedy and venal, not malevolent. On the other hand, venal can screw you just as badly as malevolent. If MS-employees seem to be truthful, it would be a safe bet that something important has been warped and perverted, or left out altogether. That may not be malevolent either, for some people, like sociopaths, the truth is whatever they want it to be. Malevolent? Maybe, mabe not, Venal? Unquestionably. Truthful? I'd not bet my life on it. Feel free to bet yours on it.
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Assuming that you are correct in the idea that the DOJ is supposed to be a Congressional lap-dog (or lick-spittle), Congress is not a party to this case. Let me see if I understand you: if the corrupt, degenerate Congress passes a law encouraging the torture-murder of accused file-sharers, your position is that the DOJ should defend it? Yes?
So, if Congress in its infinite desire to gratify the fat-cats should pass a law re-instituting slavery, you think the f*ing DOJ should support it?!
Thirteenth Amendment:1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Fortunately, the Constitution still trumps those butt-licking retards in Congress (of both parties).
I think you've hit the nail of the head. To see what they really want, 1) download ;-) and print a copy of your nation's Constitution and/or Bill of Rights. Then run it through a paper shredder. That's what they seem to want for starters. 2) Next get a REAAAAALLY BIG jar of petroleum jelly and a telephone pole ... bend waaaay over.... 3) Finally, send the RIAA and MPAA an extra copy of all your credit cards and tell them to charge whatever they want. Beyond that it probably gets ugly.
This kind of stuff would have made Winston Smith's day job so much easier. Rewrite history then push it out so as to override previous copies. And the rulers of the Fahrenheit 451 world could simply revoke the digital certificate of ... every book or every book with ideas they want suppressed. Sound like the media cartels' wet dream? It is, it is. And that of would-be tyrants? Even more so.
I was getting halfway interested in the Kindle until the 1984 debacle. That shows that DRM has a much darker potential than its proponents will ever acknowledge. Fuck all that shit. (Not picking on Amazon; I like it and have had an account there for years.) Corporations cannot be trusted to have any interest in freedom of any kind for the public. No doubt their accountants would show it as a negative (if intangible) item on their balance sheets.
The TOS Agreement looks pretty intimidating to me. Out of curiosity I pasted it into a blank Abiword doc. Seven pages of single spaced 12-point type. Legalese. If I need a $200-$500/hour lawyer to parse it for me, I'm not going to use it. Period. About five paragraphs in I started to get that deja vu feeling, as if I were at microsoft.com or something. Yuck.
The silence of Ramji's non-reply is deafening. But then, what could he say?
Good luck on that if you have to go to court. SCO started its ant-Linux jihad in 2002, with no evidence, and as it turns out no standing to sue. It is seven years later and they are still not dead. How much longer do you suppose that MS can keep Gnome# in legal limbo-given their resources?
Good summary. I for one ain't that crazy about seeing my FSF dues going to host a MS/Silverlight ad. What's next, a rave review of Office 2010? Windows 8? Is MS so impoverished they can't afford to buy ads anymore? Wouldn't this be a better place for a Sliverblight endorsement? With all the money those parasites have, you'd think they'd be too ashamed to leech off of GNU!
.NET to work on the the NT kernel?! Won't be any skin off my butt, XFCE, KDE, and Fluxbox, are all better alternatives. /end rant.
As long as I'm ranting, Dear GNOME, if you find that the 4 freedoms make you philosophically uneasy, feel free to leave GNU. While you are at it why not re-write GNOME in
About your bruised feelings: Tough shit. Now, feel free to use your sock-puppets to mod me down: "-1 unympathetic."
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Yep, me too (1950s &60s), also x and y coordinates; many books I read had a circumflex o in rôle... BTW for those that think "cooper" is a nonsense word, it is/was a barrel-maker, and cooperage is/was barrel-staves and steel or iron strapping.
I'm 59, and have been running a 17 inch CRT at 1280x1024 & usually have 4 -6 apps open at any given moment (just got a hand-me-down 19 inch widescreen (about 1360x 900). And, yes I do wear glasses. Meanwhile the 28-ish kid who does miscellaneous stuff (one application at a time) sometimes runs her 21 inch widescreen at 800x600. Her desktop icons look like beer coasters.
Now, get yer clodhoppers outta my garden, kid.
You know, like Mick Jagger, Elton John, Paul McCartney, Madonna, Celine Dione, & various other impoverished, downtrodden performers. The nerve of that wealthy, powerful stock clerk. She got away with it too, which is why the artists' protection organizations like RIAA and MPAA need the right to just kill suspected offenders without the bother of courts and trials.
Only X11--at least for me. To give Ubuntu credit, however, sometimes X is broken as installed, saving it and me the trouble of breaking it later.
+ cocaine + politicians + hookers. It's really shameful to support drug dealers and politicians.
Hmmh, seems like they could simply obscure that part of it by saying, "We got hyper-secret, techniques we refuse to talk about." That is almost plausible. Some of the criticism sugest that it will allow police-state powers to be mobilized against ordinary people for having backups of their music and software. The IP cartel is steadfastly opposed to such things.
What are the enforcement provisions? We don't know, and aren't going to be allowed to know--until it's too late. This is a mockery of any and all democratic principle. They are spitting in our faces. Of course, the non-democratic, and anti-democratic nations will love this, as it will strengthen their grips on their respective societies.
Furthermore, there seem to be provision aimed at setting up an independent ACTA organization which will above and not accountable to any national supervision. Copyright Geheime Staatspolizei anyone? If they are so afraid of going public, that everything must be hidden behind an iron curtain of secrecy, anything is plausible.
Miscellaneous links: Wikipedia ACTA criticism, EFF, KEI Patry. Patry observed that "extensive changes" would be necessary to U.S. law to bring it into compliance. How many years in prison would accused music downloaders be facing under ACTA? None of us knows. It's secret!!
Glad to see someone picked up on it. ;-) That's what we were told when they started monitoring all e-mail and all phone calls: If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. Funny that lots of folk with "nothing to hide" have curtains, blinds, and don't want party line telephone service.
If ACTA has nothing to hide, why are they hiding. All this secrecy suggests that it is loaded with anti-freedom, corrupt, vile and unconstitutional provisions. What does this pile of ... "stuff" ... do repeal the Bill of Rights and the Magna Carta (insert your nation's equivalent here)? Anyone who values whatever freedom they have should be raising a stink.
I remember those. This is like drop-dead dates raised to the nth power. Paying off once won't get it, you just trade an early drop-dead date for a later drop-dead date- over, and over, and over. until they decide you must upgrade. Sounds really, really swell. Have fun, Microsoft lovers! ;-) Glad I use Linux & BSD. What's next for MS, patenting "The GUI" and the CLI?
It it possible that the "confabulated" names which you say you argued against (and I have no reason to doubt your word) are indicative of Microsoft's attitude towards you? Looks like contempt to me. Your mileage obviously varies.
AT&T tried to throttle BSD just like that. Turned out there was very little AT&T code in BSD and huge quantities of BSD code in AT&T, BSD code from which the BSD copyright attributions had "mysteriously" disappeared. AT&T dropped that suit while the dropping was good.
Thats the practical crux of the controversy for me. Miguel and the other mono-maniacs seem determined to forcibly inflict mono and its dependencies on the rest of us by making mono-apps default installs on every distro. F*** that. Fortunately, "apt-get remove --purge mono ..." still works ... for now. Believe me, I use it, too. Mono is why I'm using XFCE, KDE 4, and fluxbox now, Gnome's slavish adherence to Miguel and mono disgusts me. If/when Gnumeric gets monofied, I'll dump it, too. That would be a shame but no one ever told me that having principles was painless.
Frankly, I have more respect for Stallman and his principles than Miguel's cleverness and opportunism.
There's been cadres of flint-knappers at every craft show I've been to for the last 10 years. Their pieces typically range from $10 to $100 dollars. I've seen a pretty good reproduction of a fluted Clovis point knocked out on about 30 minutes work, Even as a reproduction, that would likely bring $200-500. An unscrupulous flint-knapper willing to bury his stuff in the backyard a couple of years and sell it as real (actually, they are real, they are just not old) could pocket thousands per piece.
... over 30 yrs ago. Great way to blow off steam, till you smash a finger. Bandages and protective glasses are highly recommended. Oh, and after the Big Crash, gun-nuts will run out of AK-47s to club one another to death with long before we run out of knappable stone.
Most knappers practice it for pleasure, I taught myself about
Is this the same DOJ that has been packed with "ex" Microsoft lawyers? The same Microsoft that's run by some Mussolini-lookalike who's supposed to have said, "I'm gonna fucking kill Google!"
To say nothing of plain old dishonesty.
And in what way is that wrong? ... OK, maybe most of them are simply greedy and venal, not malevolent. On the other hand, venal can screw you just as badly as malevolent. If MS-employees seem to be truthful, it would be a safe bet that something important has been warped and perverted, or left out altogether. That may not be malevolent either, for some people, like sociopaths, the truth is whatever they want it to be. Malevolent? Maybe, mabe not, Venal? Unquestionably. Truthful? I'd not bet my life on it. Feel free to bet yours on it.