Once all the natural varieties are driven into extinction, Monsanto can charge whatever it wants. How's a $50.00 dollar loaf of bread or box of corn-flakes sound? Monsanto has already put most non-GM rapeseed ("canola") growers out of business, owning some 80% of the rapeseed market. Think they care how many people starve or are otherwise injured as a result of their greed? If you do, think again. Remember, the new, true corporate philosophy is that their "only responsibility is to the shareholders." If hundreds of millions of human beings starve? So what? It would be good for the corporate bottom-line.
Funny, that once it was found that people could be scared into using rapeseed oil, with lies claiming that other oils, like olive oil, which has been used for thousands of years without problems, suddenly became bad for us (Bullcrap!). Suddenly, rapeseed oil became "canola" oil and Monsanto turns up with their patented, GM product. Coincidence? Wake me up when GM-rapeseed, or if you wish, "canola" oil, GM-corn, etc. have beeen tested for thousands of years. Don't let my reluctance to be a guinea-pig deter you, though: eat all you want. I'll just suffer along with butter, olive oil, and other non-GM foods.
NetBank's stock price traded around $15 a share in 2004, but it declined and then fell below $5 a share in early 2007. Shares of NetBank fell to $0.07, down $0.01, on Friday.
I caught the reference, if no one else did. Arthur Carlson (WKRP in Cincinnati): "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!" Said after dumping scores of turkeys from a small plane. or was it a chopper. Hilarious.
The guy provided a link to the Tomboy page at the GNOME site where you can check it yourself. He also said "IMO" = "in my opinion". How is having a freaking opinion trolling?
Seems like someone pointed out recently that the only "safe" (as in safe from patent lawsuits?) way to get mono (or was it Sliverblight?) was through Novell... and that someone was Miguel de Icaza. Of course, de Icaza assures us that MS will not sue. However, Steve Ballmer and other MS luminaries say that MS owes it to its shareholders to collect on its patents. So who do I believe, Miguel de Icaza, a Novell developer, or Steve Ballmer, the CEO of MS? Perhaps when Ballmer unleashes the law-dogs on linux and the BSDs, I can count on Miguel to pick up the phone and order Ballmer to cut it out, and Ballmer will obey? Go ahead and act on that belief, if you want. Count me out.
The drift of the "S.S. Gnome" towards the "Mono Rocks" is why I jumped the "HMS Ubuntu" for Sidux (KDE and Fluxbox). Actually, I understand that mono can be uninstalled from Ubuntu, although when I tried I got a warning that my desktop would be removed. Rather than go to the trouble of rebuilding it, I decided to try Sidux & Sabayon. Sabayon turned out to be laced with mono, too and although I successfully removed it (and Beagle) from Sabayon, looking at the trends and sentiments on their forums convinced me to stick with Sidux. Too bad, I'd actually gotten to like Gnome while using Ubuntu.
WTF? If I wanted to use MS-patented technology, I would be using Windows & Internet Explorer.
Good luck to the Gnome guys and gals, I wish you well. You may wish to consider starting a legal-defence fund.
Don't MS customers like being treated like criminals and being abused in other ways? They are getting what they bargained for. Sorry, no sympathy here.
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Disagree with us if you like, but that doesn't make us evil.
If you worked for the Mafia, but had good intentions, would you be a saint?!. You work for a company that many see as the epitome of corporate evil. Good intentions are peachy, but they are cheap, cheaper even than talk. What are you actually doing? Working to further MS's goals (which many see to be snuffing out the last vestiges of freedom in computing. You want to be judged by your good intentions, but I must tell you what I have learned the hard way: everyone, everyone, myself included, is judged by their actions.
Ubuntu doesn't have the hammer-lock now that it did in January. PCLinux O/S and Sabayon have been pushing hard in Distrowatch rankings, for what its worth. Even more interesting is that plain old "boring" Debian is in the top 5 or 10 and has been for the last year. Perhaps stability counts? What a thought.
Mind you I'm not knocking any of them & have tried everything in the top 10 but Mandriva, OpenSuSE, and Fedora. All the ones I've tried have worked reasonably well to very well on my h/w. Somehow, I always end up sticking with or going back to Debian and FreeBSD (or derivatives thereof). Why? It's the range of software available. My 2 cents.
I'm not a business though, & if I were, I'd be looking for solid support.
Where have the US constitutional virtues which I was told were the best in the world gone now?
MS bought them & ran them through the garbage disposal, then into the sewer. No problem when you can buy Congress, the Justice Department, and the Judiciary with your walking around change.
We have the best government money can buy. --Will Rogers
No doubt MS's pet lickspittles in Congress will be lobbying for an invasion of Hungary now. "...suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress... but then I repeat myself" --Mark Twain and lastly, "we have no distinct, native criminal class-except Congress." --Mark Twain.
I hope they try it on a few places owned by the REAL MAFIA. If enough of these turds end up floating in the local river, bay, or whatever, things WILL change. Especially if one of the floaters is a big cheese.
because UNIX that the mainstream consumer can see is UNIX that the mainstream consumer doesn't want; hence Linux's problem.
I'm not so sure you are right about that. When I learned that Linux was an independant re-creation of unix, it made me even more interested. What had me interested in the first place was escape from the Evil Empire. Success with Mandrake (8.2) was followed by success with Free BSD (4.9). In theory, I triple boot, in reality, I only boot Debian or FreeBSD, not the slave's O/S from Redmond. Should MS succeed in getting Linux and other unix-like O/S's banned by their pet lickspittles in Congress, I'll just pull the plug on my machines. "Live Free or Die!"
About three years ago, Maximum PC ran a poll asking their readers what O/S they thought they would be running in 2005 and on what hardware. One of the choices was Linux, the others were MAC, XP, and Longhorn. Although I figured that Linux was a choice intended to be a joke or to set up those who chose it as the butts of jokes, I put down Debian on AMD 64. No doubt the Maximum PC staff howled with laughter. But in 2005, I was running Debian on AMD 64, & shortly after the poll, Lamehorn got sent back to the drawing board. "He who laughs last..." I haven't bothered to pick up a Maximum PC since, maybe I'll have another look someday.
I think you are right about Gnome. I've never been real nutso about Kubuntu, the pkg-manager always gave me fits, so I use apt-get or synaptic. Actually I'm using Xubuntu on my laptop. Sidux has KDE as the default & I do like KDE. However, the last week I've been "playing" with Fluxbox on Sidux, and find it to be a pleasant change. I wish Ubuntu all the best, but I wish they would dump mono. If mono is "hard-wired" to Gnome, I want nothing to do with Gnome.
Use what you want to use. However, its not like Ballmer hasn't very publicly and clearly indicated MS's intent to sue Linux developers and users over the use of MS-patented technology. Actually, even if MS promsed not to sue, I'd disbelieve it, and the corrupt courts in the US wouldn't hold MS to such a promise. Wanna use mono & Sliverlight? Good luck! Hope you don't cut your throat with them. The mono infection in Ubuntu is why I've switched to Sidux. If neccessary, I'll switch to Debian. Screw MS, Ballmer, MS technology (including mono), and their worshippers.
What good is a stable OS that won't let you use it?
It should be pretty good for Microsoft's bottom line. If they can force you and eveyone else to rebuy their "O/S" 3 to 6 times over the lifetime of the box/lapbox at $100-400 or more, how can that not help MS's bottom line. That ought to make the stock analysts and the Mini-microsofts of the world happy. Besides, think of Steve Ballmer's starving children! You want them to be warped for life because they don't have two different Mercedes-Benz cars for every day of the month? Don't be so selfish!
Besides if you can't use it, it won't be corrupted, will it?
Try googling for "Broadband Scandal" The first on my list when I did is here. If I recall correctly, the telecoms have received $200 billion in tax breaks &/or subsidies. We were promised 45Mbps fiber service for [most] everyone by last year. HaHa. You get yours? Me neither. The book Broadband Scandal was available as a free pdf for a week or so last year.
And one of the Nazi's greatest assistants and cheerleaders was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, see here. The French, Yugoslavs, and, I think,the Soviets wanted to try him for war crimes at Nuremburg. The Brits had a tizzy and refused, threatening to withdraw from the Nuremburg trials altogether.
Clovis peoples did not "go extinct." They spread put across the Americas and developed in to more locally adapted cultures. The Folsom point is a fairly obvious derivative of the Clovis point see here. The Folsom point supplanted Clovis on the Lower Great Plains. From Missouri to the Atlantic coast the Dalton point is considered a direct outgrowth of Clovis, and on the western Gulf Coast, the San Patrice point seems to have filled the same role as the successor to Clovis. Aside from that, there is a lot of regional variation in Clovis itself prior to the emergence of Folsom, San Patrice etc.
The Pleistocene megafauna did go extinct, but the causes of that have been argued back and forth since I was a student in the 1970s, and with no end in sight. Some have blamed Clovis and closely related groups in the Americas, and refer to these extinctions as the result of a Clovis "blitzkrieg." However, there's also evidence to suggest that some were headed down the drain before humans reached the Americas. Late Pleistocene environments were drastically different from today. The southwest was fairly moist, not a desert at all. The southeast was considerably drier than now and had fine-grained, micro-environments quite unlike anything seen today. All of those environments changed drastically, and the intricately intermingled mico-ecologies of the southeast disappeared, and any fauna dependent on that was toast (my 2 cents, there).
I find this suggestion outrageous. My earliest [technical-professional] articles etc came out in 1980, when I was 30. As things stand now, if I die when I'm 70 (i.e. 2020, the copyright won't expire until 2090, 110 years after they were written! That in itself is preposterous. The original term was 17 years with an optional 17 year extension. I have no problem with that stuff being in the public domain now. the purpose of writing it was to communicate information in the first place. If it's not, why bother? Doh.
I'm inclined to suspect that this is a trial balloon floated by the big publishers & Disney-oids to complete the rape of the pubic domain. How long before things like Shakespeare, the Illiad, the Bible, Darwin's work are auctioned off to big money (in return for big campaign contributions) and stolen from the public. Hey Halprin, if you don't like finite copyright, DON'T PUBLISH! Shove it up your ass, instead. That'll fix us. Who are you, anyway, your stuff seems to be almost invisible to Google. One unrated listing on Amazon. Not the next Shakespeare or Toynbee.
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Once all the natural varieties are driven into extinction, Monsanto can charge whatever it wants. How's a $50.00 dollar loaf of bread or box of corn-flakes sound? Monsanto has already put most non-GM rapeseed ("canola") growers out of business, owning some 80% of the rapeseed market. Think they care how many people starve or are otherwise injured as a result of their greed? If you do, think again. Remember, the new, true corporate philosophy is that their "only responsibility is to the shareholders." If hundreds of millions of human beings starve? So what? It would be good for the corporate bottom-line.
Funny, that once it was found that people could be scared into using rapeseed oil, with lies claiming that other oils, like olive oil, which has been used for thousands of years without problems, suddenly became bad for us (Bullcrap!). Suddenly, rapeseed oil became "canola" oil and Monsanto turns up with their patented, GM product. Coincidence? Wake me up when GM-rapeseed, or if you wish, "canola" oil, GM-corn, etc. have beeen tested for thousands of years. Don't let my reluctance to be a guinea-pig deter you, though: eat all you want. I'll just suffer along with butter, olive oil, and other non-GM foods.
I caught the reference, if no one else did. Arthur Carlson (WKRP in Cincinnati): "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!" Said after dumping scores of turkeys from a small plane. or was it a chopper. Hilarious.
The guy provided a link to the Tomboy page at the GNOME site where you can check it yourself. He also said "IMO" = "in my opinion". How is having a freaking opinion trolling?
Seems like someone pointed out recently that the only "safe" (as in safe from patent lawsuits?) way to get mono (or was it Sliverblight?) was through Novell... and that someone was Miguel de Icaza. Of course, de Icaza assures us that MS will not sue. However, Steve Ballmer and other MS luminaries say that MS owes it to its shareholders to collect on its patents. So who do I believe, Miguel de Icaza, a Novell developer, or Steve Ballmer, the CEO of MS? Perhaps when Ballmer unleashes the law-dogs on linux and the BSDs, I can count on Miguel to pick up the phone and order Ballmer to cut it out, and Ballmer will obey? Go ahead and act on that belief, if you want. Count me out.
The drift of the "S.S. Gnome" towards the "Mono Rocks" is why I jumped the "HMS Ubuntu" for Sidux (KDE and Fluxbox). Actually, I understand that mono can be uninstalled from Ubuntu, although when I tried I got a warning that my desktop would be removed. Rather than go to the trouble of rebuilding it, I decided to try Sidux & Sabayon. Sabayon turned out to be laced with mono, too and although I successfully removed it (and Beagle) from Sabayon, looking at the trends and sentiments on their forums convinced me to stick with Sidux. Too bad, I'd actually gotten to like Gnome while using Ubuntu.
WTF? If I wanted to use MS-patented technology, I would be using Windows & Internet Explorer. Good luck to the Gnome guys and gals, I wish you well. You may wish to consider starting a legal-defence fund.
Don't MS customers like being treated like criminals and being abused in other ways? They are getting what they bargained for. Sorry, no sympathy here.
I think flagrant corruption is the term we're looking for.
Ubuntu doesn't have the hammer-lock now that it did in January. PCLinux O/S and Sabayon have been pushing hard in Distrowatch rankings, for what its worth. Even more interesting is that plain old "boring" Debian is in the top 5 or 10 and has been for the last year. Perhaps stability counts? What a thought.
Mind you I'm not knocking any of them & have tried everything in the top 10 but Mandriva, OpenSuSE, and Fedora. All the ones I've tried have worked reasonably well to very well on my h/w. Somehow, I always end up sticking with or going back to Debian and FreeBSD (or derivatives thereof). Why? It's the range of software available. My 2 cents.
I'm not a business though, & if I were, I'd be looking for solid support.
Honor is important to Klingons, but not the Ferengi or M'softies, who worship at the alter of Latinum.
More likely Packard-Bell Pentium-Pros with 512MB memory running Vista-Ultimatum. "Patience, Grasshopper"
We have the best government money can buy. --Will Rogers
No doubt MS's pet lickspittles in Congress will be lobbying for an invasion of Hungary now. "...suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress
Nuff said?
I hope they try it on a few places owned by the REAL MAFIA. If enough of these turds end up floating in the local river, bay, or whatever, things WILL change. Especially if one of the floaters is a big cheese.
About three years ago, Maximum PC ran a poll asking their readers what O/S they thought they would be running in 2005 and on what hardware. One of the choices was Linux, the others were MAC, XP, and Longhorn. Although I figured that Linux was a choice intended to be a joke or to set up those who chose it as the butts of jokes, I put down Debian on AMD 64. No doubt the Maximum PC staff howled with laughter. But in 2005, I was running Debian on AMD 64, & shortly after the poll, Lamehorn got sent back to the drawing board. "He who laughs last
I think you are right about Gnome. I've never been real nutso about Kubuntu, the pkg-manager always gave me fits, so I use apt-get or synaptic. Actually I'm using Xubuntu on my laptop. Sidux has KDE as the default & I do like KDE. However, the last week I've been "playing" with Fluxbox on Sidux, and find it to be a pleasant change. I wish Ubuntu all the best, but I wish they would dump mono. If mono is "hard-wired" to Gnome, I want nothing to do with Gnome.
Use what you want to use. However, its not like Ballmer hasn't very publicly and clearly indicated MS's intent to sue Linux developers and users over the use of MS-patented technology. Actually, even if MS promsed not to sue, I'd disbelieve it, and the corrupt courts in the US wouldn't hold MS to such a promise. Wanna use mono & Sliverlight? Good luck! Hope you don't cut your throat with them. The mono infection in Ubuntu is why I've switched to Sidux. If neccessary, I'll switch to Debian. Screw MS, Ballmer, MS technology (including mono), and their worshippers.
It should be pretty good for Microsoft's bottom line. If they can force you and eveyone else to rebuy their "O/S" 3 to 6 times over the lifetime of the box/lapbox at $100-400 or more, how can that not help MS's bottom line. That ought to make the stock analysts and the Mini-microsofts of the world happy. Besides, think of Steve Ballmer's starving children! You want them to be warped for life because they don't have two different Mercedes-Benz cars for every day of the month? Don't be so selfish!
Besides if you can't use it, it won't be corrupted, will it?
Netscape and Stac were the first things that came into my head, too, followed by WordPerfect.
I notice that GP didn't reply, but then what could he say!?
Try googling for "Broadband Scandal" The first on my list when I did is here. If I recall correctly, the telecoms have received $200 billion in tax breaks &/or subsidies. We were promised 45Mbps fiber service for [most] everyone by last year. HaHa. You get yours? Me neither. The book Broadband Scandal was available as a free pdf for a week or so last year.
And one of the Nazi's greatest assistants and cheerleaders was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, see here. The French, Yugoslavs, and, I think ,the Soviets wanted to try him for war crimes at Nuremburg. The Brits had a tizzy and refused, threatening to withdraw from the Nuremburg trials altogether.
Clovis peoples did not "go extinct." They spread put across the Americas and developed in to more locally adapted cultures. The Folsom point is a fairly obvious derivative of the Clovis point see here. The Folsom point supplanted Clovis on the Lower Great Plains. From Missouri to the Atlantic coast the Dalton point is considered a direct outgrowth of Clovis, and on the western Gulf Coast, the San Patrice point seems to have filled the same role as the successor to Clovis. Aside from that, there is a lot of regional variation in Clovis itself prior to the emergence of Folsom, San Patrice etc.
The Pleistocene megafauna did go extinct, but the causes of that have been argued back and forth since I was a student in the 1970s, and with no end in sight. Some have blamed Clovis and closely related groups in the Americas, and refer to these extinctions as the result of a Clovis "blitzkrieg." However, there's also evidence to suggest that some were headed down the drain before humans reached the Americas. Late Pleistocene environments were drastically different from today. The southwest was fairly moist, not a desert at all. The southeast was considerably drier than now and had fine-grained, micro-environments quite unlike anything seen today. All of those environments changed drastically, and the intricately intermingled mico-ecologies of the southeast disappeared, and any fauna dependent on that was toast (my 2 cents, there).
I find this suggestion outrageous. My earliest [technical-professional] articles etc came out in 1980, when I was 30. As things stand now, if I die when I'm 70 (i.e. 2020, the copyright won't expire until 2090, 110 years after they were written! That in itself is preposterous. The original term was 17 years with an optional 17 year extension. I have no problem with that stuff being in the public domain now. the purpose of writing it was to communicate information in the first place. If it's not, why bother? Doh.
I'm inclined to suspect that this is a trial balloon floated by the big publishers & Disney-oids to complete the rape of the pubic domain. How long before things like Shakespeare, the Illiad, the Bible, Darwin's work are auctioned off to big money (in return for big campaign contributions) and stolen from the public. Hey Halprin, if you don't like finite copyright, DON'T PUBLISH! Shove it up your ass, instead. That'll fix us. Who are you, anyway, your stuff seems to be almost invisible to Google. One unrated listing on Amazon. Not the next Shakespeare or Toynbee.
Amen. Faster still, like Warp 10, on more recent machines.