I think it's her responsibility as a teacher to report someone she believes might SHOOT UP a classroom — she completely dropped the ball there. It's thanks to "teachers" (heh) like her that school massacres happen. Forget her identity or the students', she needed to REPORT that shiznit. Maybe get the guy some help if nothing else.
Re: negative epithets, they CAN go on a report card. I got all As, but PLENTY of remarks from teachers that weren't complimentary AT ALL. Now as a parent, when I get 'canned responses' from teachers, I go face-to-face with them and ask questions. Plenty of teachers put concerns, etc on report cards (though maybe phrased a bit more diplomatically, ie, "X is making fine grades but isn't living up to full potential.") A teacher's thoughts, if they're 'imporant' enough to be published and aren't just split-second angry moments, SHOULD be discussed w/ other teachers and parents.
Of course, a child can't help his/her appearance, so 'rat face' isn't going to go over well in any venue. But she's a teacher, not a Project Runway judge.
I'm not into preying on children (in this case, I'll include >16yo) if it's sexually, emotionally, etc abusive. Imo what she did was no better than what Letourneau did. (Of course, maybe she has severe mental issues like Letourneau, too.)
First thing's first: if she believed a kid was going to OPEN FIRE on a classroom, it's her responsibility to make it official to keep everyone else safe. Hello, VA Tech shootings.
"Frightfully dim" and other negative epithets — her job is to teach and grade their work, not judge a student. She's clearly not in the right profession. And yeah, let's go Letourneau again: what if she'd found a "hot yummy sex god".
Don't they have psychological evals for teachers?! It's one thing to THINK things, but completely unprofessional and off-balanced to publish the thoughts. If Natalie Munroe's sane, what a bitch!
penance is not a "penalty", but a means of righting yourself. [This might be wrong to repeat but] my penances have included apologizing to people I've inadvertently wronged, cleaning the church (if I was being slothful), reading a certain psalm every night where applicable, avoiding Perez Hilton for a week — all to humble myself and heal. Ie, Confession helps you make things right. The priest can help someone see clearly HOW they've wronged so one's behavior can change (through self-knowledge and prayer).
Heh, it's scary, but I sorta think that God maybe [sorta] IS math and algorithms and physics. God, the GUT (grand unified...). (I hope that doesn't put me down a circle in Purgatory; I just find math beautiful and like looking into the eye of God.)
Okay, I'm not bible-toting, but the idea of confessing THROUGH a priest is that (1) you're not keeping secrets (everything will come to light), and (2) you get a holy man to pray for you in your distresses (def. Biblical, again, can't remember where, but would look up if you wanted). Plus, the priest gives you penance (saying prayers privately, reading Psalms, etc) so you can correct your errant thoughts/behaviors — a lot like a shrink today, just without the meds (and the BILLS!)
When priest absolves, he does so in name of the Lord, not his own name. It's very humble; he doesn't play God, but rather acts like counselor, and WON'T absolve if you aren't penitent/sorry. And PLENTY of other denoms have their priest figures say similar things. My sister's Lutheran church has auricular confessions; no confessionals, and it's more like "chat time" face to face, but it's 'counsel'. The RCCs just do so more formally; it's written down (look at 10Cs, 7 deadlies, etc) so you can give a full confession. To benefit YOURSELF; it's no skin of God's back IIRC. And the thought is, the better YOU become, the better the WORLD becomes (you treat people better; they're influenced by your mercy; etc).
Luther didn't nix confessions; and there WERE issues in his day re: indulgences (and probably still today), but that's always been the case in Temple and Churches (cf the Gospel). In fact, I'd go so far to say that other denoms and even secular orgs suggest that GIVING CASH will get you out of some hot water. Not that it makes 'indulgences' (RCC or otherwise) right, but it does make it common. Imho. I get really turned off by those religious channels promising 'miracles' then asking for cash in the same breath. Heck, I get turned off by police fund asking for money (like, if I don't, they'll take time getting to house @ a 911 call???). So ITA re: the way indulgences were being used in Luther's day; it was a rip-off. But I bet a lot of us do "indulgences" without calling it such, whether it be for the here/now or the hereafter.
The Vatican didn't BAN anything! A spokesperson for the Vatican said it wasn't supposed to be used for call-in confessions — which it was never DESIGNED to do in the first place; it's not even possible to do that!
RTFA!
a spokesman for the Vacitan, Federico Lombardi said: ‘It is essential to understand that the rites of penance require a personal dialogue between penitents and their confessor.’It cannot be replaced by a computer application’. ‘I must stress to avoid all ambiguity, under no circumstance is it possible to "confess by iPhone".’
The guy is STATING THE OBVIOUS because the app has been sensationalized, hello!/. is better than this!
It's sorta brilliant: if you know you have to take out your phone and mark a sin, you might be less likely to commit it. I did a quit-smoking program like that once — you had to simply mark if you were smoking. But those few seconds of "ahh, gotta get out the paper, mark it down..." etc could make it not worth the trouble.
(But yeah, i was hoping I could use the sin app, then pass the phone to the priest and he could TAP some kind of auto-penance before giving me lecture and absolution.)
I think it would be nice/responsible if the U.N. had this technology and could deploy it whenever ANY country uses its kill switch. (Including freakin America.)
Unfortunately, I don't believe the current U.N. would act in a timely fashion for the tech to do them any good.
I'm not much of an audiophile (although I think I have every iPod almost, not including shuffles); I don't see a huge diff. w/ audio. (I have a profound hatred of iTunes the app, though, so my perception may be colored by that;)
But come on, batt life on iPhone/touch *kills* Android. (And I say that as a sorta android fangirl).
Android needs tighter apps, imo. I'm thinking they have to greatly improve the SDK, change the programming lang. [from java to anything else]—they don't need to shovel out neater apps if they're still going to be leaky mem hogs and run the batt down.
No news in; no news out; if they attain 'peace' within a week or so, they allow 'journalists' to print how the uprising was caused by a few malcontents. Eventually they go all China and control internet accessibility... all in the name of peace. And the worst part is, they could come out looking squeaky clean, like, "Ah, Mubarak handled business, saved monuments, etc."
(I doubt that will happen, of course, but I think that's Mubarak's thinking/hoping/wishing/praying.
We agree... first came oppression, then came individual protests, then came publicity of protests due in part to internet. Then came even worse knowledge that corrupt govt was using immoral code to find/arrest those posting messages against corrupt govt. Tunisia's govt didn't turn off internet but used it against citizens. But yes it's all about total. oppressive government.
Egypt is a different nightmare... same bad quality of life and fire started from Tunisia.. Mubarak just thought he'd nip problem in bud. He royally screwed up.
I've never RTFC (lol, 'contract'), but when we've lost power, telephone, and/or internet, we've always gotten a deduction on our bill. It might just be friendly cust. svc., of course, but I think they DO have to provide your service. (Virginia)
Exactly. I imagine the governments (Egypt and Tunisia) *believe* the social media incite riots (like yelling fire in a crowded theater), and don't acknowledge the real issues involved in the protests. And of course hitting the kill switch incited relatively peaceful protests to all-out revolution. The govts have just REALLY pissed people off now. [Idiot leaders.]
For non-rooted androids, AndFire (page has lots of "And..." apps, but AndFire is the Firewall) is decently solid. Imo. (I haven't rooted yet. Blimey, I'm lazy.) It's not in the Market, but the Market firewalls are pretty much crap imo.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it seems like if you d/l a different browser, you're good?
(Though I'm actually glad Market doesn't automatically update stuff unless you specifically request it to check for updates; sometimes updates can suck. What Google SHOULD do is inform you of your options (d/l update; get new browser; turn off j/s), but I don't want them putting anything on my phone w/out my knowledge. That's so... **apple/microsoft**)
I'm having a better experience w/ Android right now though I'm still not fond of that default Facebook+contacts shit. The first thing I dl'ed just happened to be Advanced Task Killer and it stays open in notification area — if I have a problem, I open ATK and kill everything except ATK. (Don't worry; the important stuff restarts itself anyway. Even the unimportant bloatware starts itself again....I must root this thing.)
I have ipod touches and have used iPhones — imo not much better except in batt. life. I think the best phones (reliability/security) are probably still RIM (it's just overkill for my personal needs, and well hell, I wanted to try to android!). But if your issues are apps, make a habit of reading reviews before d/ling anything. (I don't mean "Market" reviews, either. Find some android forums.)
If you haven't rooted, take your phone in and complain. (If you have rooted, unbrick it then take it back). Your buttons SHOULD work. In my experience the store employees just pop out the SD card and give me a new phone instead of trying to repair it.)
I *always* browse at -1, and my "slider" is set to -1, but I only get the top comments. When I request "more" (all), I don't get extra messages! The threads are collapsed, although I've changed the settings.
And the more I've used/. today, the more I see that the Slashdot logo needs to go back to the larger size, for one; it's a/. *thing*! Don't go all "New Coke" on us, mmmkay?!
I also liked the +/- in the story headers to vote if the story is worthy or not. Not sure if the editors utilized our input or not, but I liked feeling like I had a say in which stories belonged here or not.
OTOH, there are usability improvements (I can type in textarea w/out issue now! YAY!).
Just adding the 's' on the profile page doesn't work for me... I add the s, hit reload, and it takes me back to the "news" (wall?) page instead of the profile page. I've tried bookmarking the profile page with the 's', and FB messes up (I've ended up in freakin PHOTOS instead of profile). Plus, if you TRY to edit your profile, the yellow yield sign pops up saying that action can't be performed (just like the chat notification).
Again, though, you ALSO lose ads with https, which I consider a plus;D
I remove the 's' from https, and it all works as intended (including the blasted ads if I have ABP disabled). I'll be checking FB over the next few days to see if things improve. I don't really care that much since my FBs are 'fake' and nothing on them is real, and even if they beef up security, I expect the privacy problems (can they sell your info) will still be a problem. However, I hate that people were dying (or being incarcerated) for posting on FB in other countries, so I support any security measures MZ attempts.
· (and I think even ·) has worked fine in HTML for years (albeit not on/. for some reason). I use parentheses, dots, and carets myself, (or enter it in http://www.wolframalpha.com/ and copy the pretty mathematically-correct image), but I'm not New Scientist.
LOL, thank you! I do the occasional diffy Q just to relax, as well as code 'for fun' (well, I don't get paid anyway).
(Well, I also do diffy Qs keep up skills so I can make sure I stay ahead of my kids, who apparently aren't overly fond of mathematics. If you don't use it, ya LOSE it:D )
Easy to understand, but not exactly... enthusiastic?
A similar site (and they're also promoting a book), prime curios, exudes enthusiasm imo, encourages user input, and I think promotes interest in math. I think the 'geomagical' site could use some editors (which prime curios probably utilizes).
There are some useless, hate-filled posts on the intrawebs by self-professed Christians. I can't help but think of Congressman Gifford's shooting, which may or may not have been politically-motivated, but the shooter got juiced somehow, and prolific hate messages are juice.
Christians in particular (imho) seem to grab an issue and bang it into the ground, taunt others with it, etc.... which really isn't what Christianity is about. (Or Islam, or Buddhism, for that matter). So hearing a religious leader basically CONDEMN 'anonymous' intolerant hate messages sends a powerful message (I hope) that the self-professed religious are accountable for what they post.
(And I esp. appreciate that the Pope made a unpopular statement like that — he knew he'd take heat for promoting tolerance, and he really has taken heat, even from his own priests who want to actively promote anti-choice/pro-life, or other agendas, on the intrawebs.)
MS is a mess imo. I'll admit to ADORING some of their products for business (excel, one note), but they just released one note for the ipad/iphone and you can't even VIEW the notes with their proprietary formatting; you can't add voice notes; and worst of all, you can't even SEARCH your notes (the formatting made notes easier to find, but without that, and without search, you're looking at useless jumbled text in large notebooks). WhyTH have a mobile app for a mobile product that completely undermines the software which SHOULD be a perfect mobile app?!
And the (?) user-friendly ribbons and bows and other useless crap they've added to their bloatware in the last ten years has a steep learning curve, and [to me] make no sense. I loaded up a DOS version of word just to make sure I wasn't losing my mind, and except for Excel and One Note (and that "Live" movie app doesn't suck), I am using other options for MS business products (even Google Docs if the info isn't sensitive); like Impress vs PP.
If MS can't get their own perfect (imo) 'mobile app' to work on mobile platforms, I don't know how they expect to compete w/ other tablets. Esp when it's safe to assume you'll have to put up with BSODs on their tablets.
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I think it's her responsibility as a teacher to report someone she believes might SHOOT UP a classroom — she completely dropped the ball there. It's thanks to "teachers" (heh) like her that school massacres happen. Forget her identity or the students', she needed to REPORT that shiznit. Maybe get the guy some help if nothing else.
Re: negative epithets, they CAN go on a report card. I got all As, but PLENTY of remarks from teachers that weren't complimentary AT ALL. Now as a parent, when I get 'canned responses' from teachers, I go face-to-face with them and ask questions. Plenty of teachers put concerns, etc on report cards (though maybe phrased a bit more diplomatically, ie, "X is making fine grades but isn't living up to full potential.") A teacher's thoughts, if they're 'imporant' enough to be published and aren't just split-second angry moments, SHOULD be discussed w/ other teachers and parents.
Of course, a child can't help his/her appearance, so 'rat face' isn't going to go over well in any venue. But she's a teacher, not a Project Runway judge.
I'm not into preying on children (in this case, I'll include >16yo) if it's sexually, emotionally, etc abusive. Imo what she did was no better than what Letourneau did. (Of course, maybe she has severe mental issues like Letourneau, too.)
First thing's first: if she believed a kid was going to OPEN FIRE on a classroom, it's her responsibility to make it official to keep everyone else safe. Hello, VA Tech shootings.
"Frightfully dim" and other negative epithets — her job is to teach and grade their work, not judge a student. She's clearly not in the right profession. And yeah, let's go Letourneau again: what if she'd found a "hot yummy sex god".
Don't they have psychological evals for teachers?! It's one thing to THINK things, but completely unprofessional and off-balanced to publish the thoughts. If Natalie Munroe's sane, what a bitch!
penance is not a "penalty", but a means of righting yourself. [This might be wrong to repeat but] my penances have included apologizing to people I've inadvertently wronged, cleaning the church (if I was being slothful), reading a certain psalm every night where applicable, avoiding Perez Hilton for a week — all to humble myself and heal. Ie, Confession helps you make things right. The priest can help someone see clearly HOW they've wronged so one's behavior can change (through self-knowledge and prayer).
Heh, it's scary, but I sorta think that God maybe [sorta] IS math and algorithms and physics. God, the GUT (grand unified...). (I hope that doesn't put me down a circle in Purgatory; I just find math beautiful and like looking into the eye of God.)
Okay, I'm not bible-toting, but the idea of confessing THROUGH a priest is that (1) you're not keeping secrets (everything will come to light), and (2) you get a holy man to pray for you in your distresses (def. Biblical, again, can't remember where, but would look up if you wanted). Plus, the priest gives you penance (saying prayers privately, reading Psalms, etc) so you can correct your errant thoughts/behaviors — a lot like a shrink today, just without the meds (and the BILLS!)
When priest absolves, he does so in name of the Lord, not his own name. It's very humble; he doesn't play God, but rather acts like counselor, and WON'T absolve if you aren't penitent/sorry. And PLENTY of other denoms have their priest figures say similar things. My sister's Lutheran church has auricular confessions; no confessionals, and it's more like "chat time" face to face, but it's 'counsel'. The RCCs just do so more formally; it's written down (look at 10Cs, 7 deadlies, etc) so you can give a full confession. To benefit YOURSELF; it's no skin of God's back IIRC. And the thought is, the better YOU become, the better the WORLD becomes (you treat people better; they're influenced by your mercy; etc).
Luther didn't nix confessions; and there WERE issues in his day re: indulgences (and probably still today), but that's always been the case in Temple and Churches (cf the Gospel). In fact, I'd go so far to say that other denoms and even secular orgs suggest that GIVING CASH will get you out of some hot water. Not that it makes 'indulgences' (RCC or otherwise) right, but it does make it common. Imho. I get really turned off by those religious channels promising 'miracles' then asking for cash in the same breath. Heck, I get turned off by police fund asking for money (like, if I don't, they'll take time getting to house @ a 911 call???). So ITA re: the way indulgences were being used in Luther's day; it was a rip-off. But I bet a lot of us do "indulgences" without calling it such, whether it be for the here/now or the hereafter.
XOXO
The Vatican didn't BAN anything! A spokesperson for the Vatican said it wasn't supposed to be used for call-in confessions — which it was never DESIGNED to do in the first place; it's not even possible to do that!
RTFA!
a spokesman for the Vacitan, Federico Lombardi said: ‘It is essential to understand that the rites of penance require a personal dialogue between penitents and their confessor.’It cannot be replaced by a computer application’. ‘I must stress to avoid all ambiguity, under no circumstance is it possible to "confess by iPhone".’
The guy is STATING THE OBVIOUS because the app has been sensationalized, hello! /. is better than this!
if there were an android version.
It's sorta brilliant: if you know you have to take out your phone and mark a sin, you might be less likely to commit it. I did a quit-smoking program like that once — you had to simply mark if you were smoking. But those few seconds of "ahh, gotta get out the paper, mark it down..." etc could make it not worth the trouble.
(But yeah, i was hoping I could use the sin app, then pass the phone to the priest and he could TAP some kind of auto-penance before giving me lecture and absolution.)
I think it would be nice/responsible if the U.N. had this technology and could deploy it whenever ANY country uses its kill switch. (Including freakin America.)
Unfortunately, I don't believe the current U.N. would act in a timely fashion for the tech to do them any good.
I'm not much of an audiophile (although I think I have every iPod almost, not including shuffles); I don't see a huge diff. w/ audio. (I have a profound hatred of iTunes the app, though, so my perception may be colored by that ;)
But come on, batt life on iPhone/touch *kills* Android. (And I say that as a sorta android fangirl).
Android needs tighter apps, imo. I'm thinking they have to greatly improve the SDK, change the programming lang. [from java to anything else]—they don't need to shovel out neater apps if they're still going to be leaky mem hogs and run the batt down.
[okay, I snatched that from Independence Day]
No news in; no news out; if they attain 'peace' within a week or so, they allow 'journalists' to print how the uprising was caused by a few malcontents. Eventually they go all China and control internet accessibility... all in the name of peace. And the worst part is, they could come out looking squeaky clean, like, "Ah, Mubarak handled business, saved monuments, etc."
(I doubt that will happen, of course, but I think that's Mubarak's thinking/hoping/wishing/praying.
We agree... first came oppression, then came individual protests, then came publicity of protests due in part to internet. Then came even worse knowledge that corrupt govt was using immoral code to find/arrest those posting messages against corrupt govt. Tunisia's govt didn't turn off internet but used it against citizens. But yes it's all about total. oppressive government. Egypt is a different nightmare... same bad quality of life and fire started from Tunisia.. Mubarak just thought he'd nip problem in bud. He royally screwed up.
I've never RTFC (lol, 'contract'), but when we've lost power, telephone, and/or internet, we've always gotten a deduction on our bill. It might just be friendly cust. svc., of course, but I think they DO have to provide your service. (Virginia)
Exactly. I imagine the governments (Egypt and Tunisia) *believe* the social media incite riots (like yelling fire in a crowded theater), and don't acknowledge the real issues involved in the protests. And of course hitting the kill switch incited relatively peaceful protests to all-out revolution. The govts have just REALLY pissed people off now. [Idiot leaders.]
For non-rooted androids, AndFire (page has lots of "And..." apps, but AndFire is the Firewall) is decently solid. Imo. (I haven't rooted yet. Blimey, I'm lazy.) It's not in the Market, but the Market firewalls are pretty much crap imo.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it seems like if you d/l a different browser, you're good?
(Though I'm actually glad Market doesn't automatically update stuff unless you specifically request it to check for updates; sometimes updates can suck. What Google SHOULD do is inform you of your options (d/l update; get new browser; turn off j/s), but I don't want them putting anything on my phone w/out my knowledge. That's so... **apple/microsoft**)
I'm having a better experience w/ Android right now though I'm still not fond of that default Facebook+contacts shit. The first thing I dl'ed just happened to be Advanced Task Killer and it stays open in notification area — if I have a problem, I open ATK and kill everything except ATK. (Don't worry; the important stuff restarts itself anyway. Even the unimportant bloatware starts itself again. ...I must root this thing.)
I have ipod touches and have used iPhones — imo not much better except in batt. life. I think the best phones (reliability/security) are probably still RIM (it's just overkill for my personal needs, and well hell, I wanted to try to android!). But if your issues are apps, make a habit of reading reviews before d/ling anything. (I don't mean "Market" reviews, either. Find some android forums.)
If you haven't rooted, take your phone in and complain. (If you have rooted, unbrick it then take it back). Your buttons SHOULD work. In my experience the store employees just pop out the SD card and give me a new phone instead of trying to repair it.)
I *always* browse at -1, and my "slider" is set to -1, but I only get the top comments. When I request "more" (all), I don't get extra messages! The threads are collapsed, although I've changed the settings.
And the more I've used /. today, the more I see that the Slashdot logo needs to go back to the larger size, for one; it's a /. *thing*! Don't go all "New Coke" on us, mmmkay?!
I also liked the +/- in the story headers to vote if the story is worthy or not. Not sure if the editors utilized our input or not, but I liked feeling like I had a say in which stories belonged here or not.
OTOH, there are usability improvements (I can type in textarea w/out issue now! YAY!).
Just adding the 's' on the profile page doesn't work for me... I add the s, hit reload, and it takes me back to the "news" (wall?) page instead of the profile page. I've tried bookmarking the profile page with the 's', and FB messes up (I've ended up in freakin PHOTOS instead of profile). Plus, if you TRY to edit your profile, the yellow yield sign pops up saying that action can't be performed (just like the chat notification).
Again, though, you ALSO lose ads with https, which I consider a plus ;D
I remove the 's' from https, and it all works as intended (including the blasted ads if I have ABP disabled). I'll be checking FB over the next few days to see if things improve. I don't really care that much since my FBs are 'fake' and nothing on them is real, and even if they beef up security, I expect the privacy problems (can they sell your info) will still be a problem. However, I hate that people were dying (or being incarcerated) for posting on FB in other countries, so I support any security measures MZ attempts.
· (and I think even ·) has worked fine in HTML for years (albeit not on /. for some reason). I use parentheses, dots, and carets myself, (or enter it in http://www.wolframalpha.com/ and copy the pretty mathematically-correct image), but I'm not New Scientist.
^
THIS is why you read /. @ full ...pls MOD UP!
LOL, thank you! I do the occasional diffy Q just to relax, as well as code 'for fun' (well, I don't get paid anyway).
(Well, I also do diffy Qs keep up skills so I can make sure I stay ahead of my kids, who apparently aren't overly fond of mathematics. If you don't use it, ya LOSE it :D )
Easy to understand, but not exactly... enthusiastic?
A similar site (and they're also promoting a book), prime curios, exudes enthusiasm imo, encourages user input, and I think promotes interest in math. I think the 'geomagical' site could use some editors (which prime curios probably utilizes).
Some of the best comments I've ever read on /. were by ACs. Just sayin' :)
There are some useless, hate-filled posts on the intrawebs by self-professed Christians. I can't help but think of Congressman Gifford's shooting, which may or may not have been politically-motivated, but the shooter got juiced somehow, and prolific hate messages are juice.
Christians in particular (imho) seem to grab an issue and bang it into the ground, taunt others with it, etc.... which really isn't what Christianity is about. (Or Islam, or Buddhism, for that matter). So hearing a religious leader basically CONDEMN 'anonymous' intolerant hate messages sends a powerful message (I hope) that the self-professed religious are accountable for what they post.
(And I esp. appreciate that the Pope made a unpopular statement like that — he knew he'd take heat for promoting tolerance, and he really has taken heat, even from his own priests who want to actively promote anti-choice/pro-life, or other agendas, on the intrawebs.)
MS is a mess imo. I'll admit to ADORING some of their products for business (excel, one note), but they just released one note for the ipad/iphone and you can't even VIEW the notes with their proprietary formatting; you can't add voice notes; and worst of all, you can't even SEARCH your notes (the formatting made notes easier to find, but without that, and without search, you're looking at useless jumbled text in large notebooks). WhyTH have a mobile app for a mobile product that completely undermines the software which SHOULD be a perfect mobile app?!
And the (?) user-friendly ribbons and bows and other useless crap they've added to their bloatware in the last ten years has a steep learning curve, and [to me] make no sense. I loaded up a DOS version of word just to make sure I wasn't losing my mind, and except for Excel and One Note (and that "Live" movie app doesn't suck), I am using other options for MS business products (even Google Docs if the info isn't sensitive); like Impress vs PP.
If MS can't get their own perfect (imo) 'mobile app' to work on mobile platforms, I don't know how they expect to compete w/ other tablets. Esp when it's safe to assume you'll have to put up with BSODs on their tablets.