" And by the way, on the issue of courage... Going to a store, grabbing the CDs or software and walking out would be courage and for that you would be punished. Software piracy is the antithesis of courage."
Nope, that would be stealing. You take something away from someone. Depriving someone of an item is stealing. When you don't take anything from them it cannot be theft.
"Are you claiming people who share files are proving a point? "
I would be if I thought that the majority of the people sharing files were willing to take their punishment for sharing the files. I don't seriously believe this though. There are people like this though, and THEY are proving a point. Just like you pointed out above.
"no true democracy"
I think that a few Americans might disagree with you a bit here. It all boils down to the definition of a "true democracy" though.
"Breaking it [the law] is wrong in a democratic country"
Again, I don't agree. If you break the law because you think that the law is wrong and if you are prepared to take the punishment for it, then you are well inside a democracy's borders. If enough people agree with you then the law will be changed (in a democracy), if they don't you'll go to jail.
"...free to leave the country at any time if you don't agree with the law"
No, I'm free to try to change the law by any democratic means availible.
"...animals are naturally selfish, acting apparently generously when they will gain something in return."
Any action by man or beast can be viewed as an act of selfishness. The fact that people (or animals?) share their resources is still there. If they do it to gain something or not is irrelevant.
"Not agreeing with a law is no reason to break it."
I disagree. That is the ONLY reason to break it. If you break a law for your personaly gain you are just a criminal, if you break it because you disagree with the law and take your punishment for it you are making a point. This is courage. This is what have changed history over and over again. Rosa Parks is a good example of this.
Why people are more generous than they have to by I don't know. It would seem to be human nature since all of the tested groups gave away much more than the bare minimum, altough there were difference between the groups.
And while we're talking about sharing. I wouldn't call filesharing theft since no one loses anything. Call it unlawful copying or something, not theft.
I found an article (in Swedish) here about the fact that "tribal?" people are a lot more generous than they have to be. I'm not sure that I'd like to call them socialist. I'd think that it's more in our nature to share our wealth, food, money or data. I can't seem to get the original story (in English), but a few links are here and here. You could probably just do a googlesearch for "Joe Henrich" and find better links.
So what are the morals? Is it really theft? Couldn't it be that the "capitalist philosophy" is flawed? I don't know, but I'm sure that there is never a simple solution to anything.
Slow? My experience is that it's much quicker on all sites I visit. Please make sure that you don't compare a cached copy in IE with a download from a remote server.
There was an application called mojonation, which became mnet that does something along these lines I think?
When you "publish" something to the mnet it splits the file in X parts and puts those parts on Y servers. Your download is swarmed from these servers. The file stays on the net as long as there are atleast 1 server per block. Those servers also check what blocks are more popular and "purchase" those blocks from other servers to make the file more easily accessable.
The themes are very nice. Really. Some look really good. But why are all themes basically the same? It's a little different background, a little different colour on the windows, but basically the same. Is it at all possible to create a theme that doesn't look like a variation of the MS-Windows-Experience(tm)? Perhaps I'm way off here, perhaps themes can only change these things?
How about windowmanagers then? Are there any innovative windowmanagers out there? I heard someone talk about a windowmanager that looked more or less like a timeline.
I also heard of/dreamt of a desktop which had a focus point in the middle and documents "floating" away from them the older they got. Now that would be something new and innovative.
Are they? I'm not trying to troll here, but are CD's really overpriced? Or do you just think that they are?
The recording companies has costs. Promotions, gifts to radiostations and mtv to get their music played, pay the artists, pushing new bands, own administration, distribution of CD's etc etc.
Is there somewhere some statistics on where the money goes? Somewhat accurate and detailed statistics would be very nice.
But perhaps the record companies don't want you to see that because it would prove that the CD's really are over-priced.
My wishlist: * Standard plugins installed (Flash, Java). * Mouse Gestures installed by default. * An IE (lookalike) skin.
This way I can drop Mozilla in anybodys lap and make them use it. If they need to install extra plugins, configure them and do other "techie" stuff they'll say "Screw it, I'm going back to IE that actually works" and that'll be the end of it.
Mozilla has to be better than IE in ALL areas for it to succeed. I know it's better in most, but it can improve in some.
Users dont want whats technically the best, they want something familiar that works when they see it the first time.
Whoever modded that to insightful must be drunk. You dont "deserve" anything like that.
Women dont deserve to be raped, no matter what they are wearing (or not wearing) or how drunk they are.
I don't deserve to have my car broken into just because I parked it in the street one night. Even if I left my shiny new laptop in there.
Running Kazaa ignoring the spyware, for women to put themseles at risk or to leave my computer where it coule dasily be stolen is stupid in all cases, but never deserved.
During the employment interview. - "Hi, we'd like you to be the most annoying feature in the whole Windows world. The guy that everyone would like to shoot, stomp on, mutilate and do other nasty stuff to. So, what do you say? Are you ready to join the high tech industry? Minimum wage of cause!" - "Umm, sure. Why not?"
Or perhaps they just get an MCSA to do it? I hear that they are cheap and plentiful. Atleast thats my boss reason for not using Unix.
I dont think so since sourceforge is for open source development and last time I checked they had atleast some portions of their code closed to prevent people from cheating.
I could be wrong though and I'm sure someone will point that out if so. Perhaps you could have some parts closed even on sourceforge.
While I was still in school I did just this. I set up a few filters that would put their email on hold for 3 days (or something) unless they sent another mail with a password. If noone responded within 3 days the email wouldn't reach me.
You wouldnt believe how many ppl mailed me back telling me I was an insensitive bastard and a lot of other things. I applied this policy to everyone (even mailinglists I'm afraid) but since this was a one time mailing, unless they didnt send the pwd and got put on the white-list, I figured ppl wouldnt mind.
Anyhow, spam mails dissapeared during my little experiment, unfortunatly so did a few email-friends.
Mojonation is suspended from what I've heard. Got this letter from the creator of it, Jim McCoy "After more than a year of testing the public prototype for the MojoNation technology platform we are shutting down the public network. The MojoNation technology will continue to be available via the soon to be announced Mnnet project, of which more information will be made available at the CodeCon conference.
It is expected that MNnet will remove several of the remaining centralized features of the MojoNation technology and result in a somewhat simplified version of the current system along with native Uis and other fun features.
More info will be made available over the next couple of weeks as details are worked out.
-Jim"
However the part that was open source lives on under the name Mnet
Isnt this just another company that goes belly-up because they weren't making money in the first place? I believe that most companies (dot-coms) crashed because they thought that a nasdaq ticker would be some kind of miracle cure that would make money for them.
There are a few linux companes that does quite well and will continue to do so. Many hasn't gone public, and have no plans to do so, since they don't need money to expand or whatever.
First make money, then go public. You have a much better chance then.
When I buy something I expect it to be functional, secure, nice and shiny. Hell, I spent money on the damn thing. Ofcause you/they should be responsible for the things you/they sell.
Open source or closed, if I spend money on it then they would have to give me my money back if it doesn't perform as it should.
I'd agree that it's a bit steep. How about paying a modest fee for the ability to use the faster servers say $10/year and then you pay per download from these servers? Pay per byte or pay per upgrade.
I don't blame them for trying to make a profit and doing it by giving me the opportunity to get priority access is something I'd pay for.
.haeger
Snort & BigBrother
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· Score: 2, Informative
Snort combined with the equally free BigBrother gives every admin exactly what he wants. Secure net with an easy to monitor interface. If I'm not mistaken there was an article in SysAdmin not long ago about hooking Tripwire into BigBrother. The same should be able to do with Snort, shouldn't it?
Slashdot Mirror
" And by the way, on the issue of courage... Going to a store, grabbing the CDs or software and walking out would be courage and for that you would be punished. Software piracy is the antithesis of courage."
Nope, that would be stealing. You take something away from someone. Depriving someone of an item is stealing. When you don't take anything from them it cannot be theft.
"Are you claiming people who share files are proving a point? "
I would be if I thought that the majority of the people sharing files were willing to take their punishment for sharing the files. I don't seriously believe this though. There are people like this though, and THEY are proving a point. Just like you pointed out above.
"no true democracy"
I think that a few Americans might disagree with you a bit here. It all boils down to the definition of a "true democracy" though.
"Breaking it [the law] is wrong in a democratic country"
Again, I don't agree. If you break the law because you think that the law is wrong and if you are prepared to take the punishment for it, then you are well inside a democracy's borders. If enough people agree with you then the law will be changed (in a democracy), if they don't you'll go to jail.
"...free to leave the country at any time if you don't agree with the law"
No, I'm free to try to change the law by any democratic means availible.
"...animals are naturally selfish, acting apparently generously when they will gain something in return."
Any action by man or beast can be viewed as an act of selfishness. The fact that people (or animals?) share their resources is still there. If they do it to gain something or not is irrelevant.
wbr
.haeger
"Not agreeing with a law is no reason to break it."
I disagree. That is the ONLY reason to break it. If you break a law for your personaly gain you are just a criminal, if you break it because you disagree with the law and take your punishment for it you are making a point. This is courage. This is what have changed history over and over again.
Rosa Parks is a good example of this.
Why people are more generous than they have to by I don't know. It would seem to be human nature since all of the tested groups gave away much more than the bare minimum, altough there were difference between the groups.
And while we're talking about sharing. I wouldn't call filesharing theft since no one loses anything. Call it unlawful copying or something, not theft.
Be well
.haeger
I found an article (in Swedish) here about the fact that "tribal?" people are a lot more generous than they have to be. I'm not sure that I'd like to call them socialist. I'd think that it's more in our nature to share our wealth, food, money or data.
I can't seem to get the original story (in English), but a few links are here and here.
You could probably just do a googlesearch for "Joe Henrich" and find better links.
So what are the morals? Is it really theft? Couldn't it be that the "capitalist philosophy" is flawed?
I don't know, but I'm sure that there is never a simple solution to anything.
wbr
.haeger
Slow?
My experience is that it's much quicker on all sites I visit.
Please make sure that you don't compare a cached copy in IE with a download from a remote server.
.haeger
There was an application called mojonation, which became mnet that does something along these lines I think?
When you "publish" something to the mnet it splits the file in X parts and puts those parts on Y servers. Your download is swarmed from these servers. The file stays on the net as long as there are atleast 1 server per block. Those servers also check what blocks are more popular and "purchase" those blocks from other servers to make the file more easily accessable.
Or so I'm told anyway.
I think the idea is quite nice.
You can read more about it here.
wbr
.haeger
The themes are very nice. Really. Some look really good. But why are all themes basically the same? It's a little different background, a little different colour on the windows, but basically the same.
Is it at all possible to create a theme that doesn't look like a variation of the MS-Windows-Experience(tm)?
Perhaps I'm way off here, perhaps themes can only change these things?
How about windowmanagers then? Are there any innovative windowmanagers out there? I heard someone talk about a windowmanager that looked more or less like a timeline.
I also heard of/dreamt of a desktop which had a focus point in the middle and documents "floating" away from them the older they got. Now that would be something new and innovative.
.haeger
http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:W15GmmXoe7sC: whiteboard.openoffice.org/mirrors/+&hl=en
Or just click here.
Call it karma whoring if you like, I just think that the more people that use the mirrors and get this great Office app the better.
.haeger
...CD's are over-priced.
Are they?
I'm not trying to troll here, but are CD's really overpriced? Or do you just think that they are?
The recording companies has costs. Promotions, gifts to radiostations and mtv to get their music played, pay the artists, pushing new bands, own administration, distribution of CD's etc etc.
Is there somewhere some statistics on where the money goes? Somewhat accurate and detailed statistics would be very nice.
But perhaps the record companies don't want you to see that because it would prove that the CD's really are over-priced.
.haeger
I think shoehorn would be a more suitable name since they will probably squeese this Windows into everything they can manage.
Oh well.
But wait, wasn't there an article about "MS is running outta juice!"?
How does this affect project Shoehorn?
.haeger
My wishlist:
* Standard plugins installed (Flash, Java).
* Mouse Gestures installed by default.
* An IE (lookalike) skin.
This way I can drop Mozilla in anybodys lap and make them use it.
If they need to install extra plugins, configure them and do other "techie" stuff they'll say "Screw it, I'm going back to IE that actually works" and that'll be the end of it.
Mozilla has to be better than IE in ALL areas for it to succeed. I know it's better in most, but it can improve in some.
Users dont want whats technically the best, they want something familiar that works when they see it the first time.
.haeger
You deserve to be 0wn3d d00d.
Whoever modded that to insightful must be drunk. You dont "deserve" anything like that.
Women dont deserve to be raped, no matter what they are wearing (or not wearing) or how drunk they are.
I don't deserve to have my car broken into just because I parked it in the street one night. Even if I left my shiny new laptop in there.
Running Kazaa ignoring the spyware, for women to put themseles at risk or to leave my computer where it coule dasily be stolen is stupid in all cases, but never deserved.
.haeger
Britney Pic [nytimes.com]
Because I know it's the only part of the article most people will care about...
Sure looks like Britney to me. Fake tits and a constructed image, yep they got it just right.
.haeger
How do you get a job like the guy on the right?
During the employment interview.
- "Hi, we'd like you to be the most annoying feature in the whole Windows world. The guy that everyone would like to shoot, stomp on, mutilate and do other nasty stuff to.
So, what do you say? Are you ready to join the high tech industry? Minimum wage of cause!"
- "Umm, sure. Why not?"
Or perhaps they just get an MCSA to do it? I hear that they are cheap and plentiful.
Atleast thats my boss reason for not using Unix.
Euro-Football: Hattrick
Do something that counts. Team 249.
I dont think so since sourceforge is for open source development and last time I checked they had atleast some portions of their code closed to prevent people from cheating.
I could be wrong though and I'm sure someone will point that out if so. Perhaps you could have some parts closed even on sourceforge.
Soccer manager: Hattrick
While I was still in school I did just this. I set up a few filters that would put their email on hold for 3 days (or something) unless they sent another mail with a password. If noone responded within 3 days the email wouldn't reach me.
You wouldnt believe how many ppl mailed me back telling me I was an insensitive bastard and a lot of other things.
I applied this policy to everyone (even mailinglists I'm afraid) but since this was a one time mailing, unless they didnt send the pwd and got put on the white-list, I figured ppl wouldnt mind.
Anyhow, spam mails dissapeared during my little experiment, unfortunatly so did a few email-friends.
.haeger
Be a manager: Hattrick
Mojonation is suspended from what I've heard.
Got this letter from the creator of it, Jim McCoy
"After more than a year of testing the public prototype for the MojoNation
technology platform we are shutting down the public network. The MojoNation
technology will continue to be available via the soon to be announced Mnnet
project, of which more information will be made available at the CodeCon
conference.
It is expected that MNnet will remove several of the remaining centralized
features of the MojoNation technology and result in a somewhat simplified
version of the current system along with native Uis and other fun features.
More info will be made available over the next couple of weeks as details
are worked out.
-Jim"
However the part that was open source lives on under the name Mnet
.haeger
"Windows has this Add/Remove program feature, how about extending this to Add/Remove/Pay."
I think that feature already exists. Isn't it called passport?
You install some shareware and MS uses your credit-card to pay for it?
OK, bad joke. Ill go stand in the corner now.
.haeger
Play Soccer: Hattrick
Cure Cancer: Team 249
Isnt this just another company that goes belly-up because they weren't making money in the first place? I believe that most companies (dot-coms) crashed because they thought that a nasdaq ticker would be some kind of miracle cure that would make money for them.
There are a few linux companes that does quite well and will continue to do so. Many hasn't gone public, and have no plans to do so, since they don't need money to expand or whatever.
First make money, then go public. You have a much better chance then.
But then, what the hell do I know?
.haeger
Soccer on the web: Hattrick
Cure cancer: Join Team 249
"which would certainly increase their user base."
Are you suggesting that MS needs a larger user base? Surely you must be joking.
Football on the web: Hattrick
Cure cancer: Join team 249
.haeger
When I buy something I expect it to be functional, secure, nice and shiny. Hell, I spent money on the damn thing. Ofcause you/they should be responsible for the things you/they sell.
Open source or closed, if I spend money on it then they would have to give me my money back if it doesn't perform as it should.
.haeger
Football on the web? Hattrick is good fun.
Cancer is not fun. Help here. Join Team Sweden (249) and show that you care.
Dilbert?
From the posting it really looks like you either is Dilbert or atleast work with him.
.haeger
Yeah, and why didn't they name it RUDE?
.haeger
He probably won't try to patent the Hyperlink since that patent is already owned by BT (Brittish Telecom)
Read more about it here
be well
.haeger
I'd agree that it's a bit steep. How about paying a modest fee for the ability to use the faster servers say $10/year and then you pay per download from these servers? Pay per byte or pay per upgrade.
I don't blame them for trying to make a profit and doing it by giving me the opportunity to get priority access is something I'd pay for.
.haeger
Snort combined with the equally free BigBrother gives every admin exactly what he wants. Secure net with an easy to monitor interface. If I'm not mistaken there was an article in SysAdmin not long ago about hooking Tripwire into BigBrother. The same should be able to do with Snort, shouldn't it?
/Haeger