I wonder how many WH officials worked for or intend to work for Big Pharma companies that don't want Americans to pay the same CHEAP prices for medications that the REST OF THE WORLD pays?
You're plotting a growing number of individuals who are using texting more and more over time.
It's not STATIC.
Thus, it is both possible (and probable) that anti-texting laws reduce casualties from texting and driving AND that the total number of texting accidents INCREASED.
If we really care about security, why not just switch all.mil over to IPv6 and deny all Chinese servers connection at root levels on the sats and trunk lines?
Wouldn't be hard.
Then tell China when they stop with the trade barriers and spying on our military, we'll let them onto the new IPv6 web.
Utility is an economic meaure, which is expended over time. An eBook, by actual existence, has a shorter utility period and thus a higher cost per time unit.
Let alone the price of electricity. That ain't free either.
You're saying that the publisher loses $30 because the reader only had to buy the book once? You're condoning thievery if you're on the publisher's side, then, because the concept of reselling the same content to me over and over because of technological change is downright evil.
I don't buy CDs of LPs I own, I sample them and burn copies. I'm not going to let the music, movie, or publishing companies steal any more from me than I absolutely have to.
I have media (books, LPs, and cassettes) that are over 30 years old. The book publishing industry seems to be doing what the music and movie publishing industry does best -- making their customers hate them.
No, I'm saying that the total cost to the user is higher for the eBook version over the lifetime of use. It's great if it's a book you only read once, on a plane, in a train, off in Spain.
I have media - on floppy and CD - that is very old. The total archival lifespan of a floppy disk is 3-5 years. The total archival lifespan of a CD is 5-10 years.
Let me do it in ST terms for you. I buy a book in 2002. It's a paperback. It costs me - the consumer - $5.
Alternate universe me buys an eBook in 2002 for his WinXP laptop. It costs him $10.
He replaces the laptop in 2009 with an iPad (gets an early version), buys the same eBook for now only $9.
He replaces his iPad with a 3D iPad in 2012, buys the same eBook for now only $6.
He replaces his 3D iPad in 2016 with the new iBand headset, buys the same eBook for now only $5.
Total cost to own the book for 20 years?
$5 for the paperback. It still works fine. It has swatted many bugs, shooed the cat off the table many times, been read in bathtubs and the beach, used 0 watts of electricity in the remote cabin of our wise paperback reader who chops his own wood and squeezes marmot oil from the local marmot population.
$30 for the eBook reader. And now he has to buy another eBook. And he's been able to swat 0 bugs, 0 cats, used it in 0 bathtubs, and 1 time at the beach (part of why he shelled out $800 to replace the first iPad).
Who won? A classic economist would say the paperback was cheaper and more utilitarian.
A spinmeister would claim the eBook only cost $4, the final time he bought it. But our consumer in the eBook story spent a lot more for a lot less.
They cost $0 per unit, how can they sell for less than this?
The stuff your talking about costs are costs to the retailer not the publisher.
It's called dumping and setting an artificial low price to crush your competition - a very very common practice when one has an oligopoly or monopoly situation and wants to achieve market dominance - technically illegal but the fines are infrequent and very small compared to the rewards of crushing your market competition and driving them out of the marketplace.
you're new to this, aren't you?
books have costs - writer, typeset (eBook formats don't create themselves, or they have really undreadable layout like many Kindle works), proof, translation for world market, regional customization (the UK version of a book is not the same as the American one, for example), and so on - even eBooks
I have a feeling, since I want China and Spam providers off my Net, and the NSA wants us civilians off the Net we taxpayers paid for, that both of us will be disappointed when neither event occurs.
We have to remember that it is possible that, in the current market, due to markup costs, eBooks may be selling for less than they cost per unit.
The only metrics that matter to the consumer are price and utility.
The only metrics that matter to the writer are profit and control.
The only metrics that matter to the middleman (book publisher, distributor) are profit per unit.
We can't compare apples to oranges. We can't use Gross Sales Price, since many books sell for less, due to markdowns and returns in the distribution channel. We need Net price after costs, including tech support and returns, and capital requirements.
If we sell one eBook for $5 million but it gets copied electronically so that we make no other sales, and this electronic version reduces physical book sales by a larger amount (due to piracy), then we lose money.
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What are these monopsonies you speak of?
Are they like chinese walls in trading firms? ... Big Pharma has been saying this since the 50's.
It's half a century later.
DING! time to let China pay for it.
That same argument has been used since the 1950s.
I'm sorry, your time living off the American consumer is up.
Go ask China for money.
Why do you hate competition driving down prices, comrade?
Is it because it means more money for Americans and less money for the CEOs?
Or are you just anti-capitalist?
This is why I get stuff from Canada or Mexico - nations with real pharmacies.
I wonder how many WH officials worked for or intend to work for Big Pharma companies that don't want Americans to pay the same CHEAP prices for medications that the REST OF THE WORLD pays?
I'm guessing most of them.
Single payer - what we should have done.
You're plotting a growing number of individuals who are using texting more and more over time.
It's not STATIC.
Thus, it is both possible (and probable) that anti-texting laws reduce casualties from texting and driving AND that the total number of texting accidents INCREASED.
Please go back and relearn Statistics, MSM.
Why do you hate those of us running CP/M on our old 8 bit computers so much?
Besides, we run without virus problems. Haven't seen a virus for a long time.
If we really care about security, why not just switch all .mil over to IPv6 and deny all Chinese servers connection at root levels on the sats and trunk lines?
Wouldn't be hard.
Then tell China when they stop with the trade barriers and spying on our military, we'll let them onto the new IPv6 web.
My point is total lifetime.
Read the top of the thread.
Utility is an economic meaure, which is expended over time. An eBook, by actual existence, has a shorter utility period and thus a higher cost per time unit.
Let alone the price of electricity. That ain't free either.
Your physical device - either computer or reader - won't last that long.
My paperback, on the other hand, works fine.
In fact, I have some paperbacks from my mom from back in WW II, that are still very functional.
My point stands.
You're saying that the publisher loses $30 because the reader only had to buy the book once? You're condoning thievery if you're on the publisher's side, then, because the concept of reselling the same content to me over and over because of technological change is downright evil.
I don't buy CDs of LPs I own, I sample them and burn copies. I'm not going to let the music, movie, or publishing companies steal any more from me than I absolutely have to.
I have media (books, LPs, and cassettes) that are over 30 years old. The book publishing industry seems to be doing what the music and movie publishing industry does best -- making their customers hate them.
No, I'm saying that the total cost to the user is higher for the eBook version over the lifetime of use. It's great if it's a book you only read once, on a plane, in a train, off in Spain.
I have media - on floppy and CD - that is very old. The total archival lifespan of a floppy disk is 3-5 years. The total archival lifespan of a CD is 5-10 years.
Paper lasts 100 years.
In practice, the market depends upon you rebuying the White Album as you migrate from record to tape to 8-track to reel to CD to DVD to ...
Pay attention to people's behavior, not to what they say is their behavior.
You're new to this, aren't you?
I've been involved in computing since the 70s.
Let me do it in ST terms for you. I buy a book in 2002. It's a paperback. It costs me - the consumer - $5.
Alternate universe me buys an eBook in 2002 for his WinXP laptop. It costs him $10.
He replaces the laptop in 2009 with an iPad (gets an early version), buys the same eBook for now only $9.
He replaces his iPad with a 3D iPad in 2012, buys the same eBook for now only $6.
He replaces his 3D iPad in 2016 with the new iBand headset, buys the same eBook for now only $5.
Total cost to own the book for 20 years?
$5 for the paperback. It still works fine. It has swatted many bugs, shooed the cat off the table many times, been read in bathtubs and the beach, used 0 watts of electricity in the remote cabin of our wise paperback reader who chops his own wood and squeezes marmot oil from the local marmot population.
$30 for the eBook reader. And now he has to buy another eBook. And he's been able to swat 0 bugs, 0 cats, used it in 0 bathtubs, and 1 time at the beach (part of why he shelled out $800 to replace the first iPad).
Who won? A classic economist would say the paperback was cheaper and more utilitarian.
A spinmeister would claim the eBook only cost $4, the final time he bought it. But our consumer in the eBook story spent a lot more for a lot less.
If I have to buy a new eBook for each new laptop and each new OS, then a Paperback will still be a small fraction of the total eBook price.
Also, the Paperback doesn't need batteries or electricity to work. And it's great for throwing at cats or dogs when they do bad things.
They cost $0 per unit, how can they sell for less than this?
The stuff your talking about costs are costs to the retailer not the publisher.
It's called dumping and setting an artificial low price to crush your competition - a very very common practice when one has an oligopoly or monopoly situation and wants to achieve market dominance - technically illegal but the fines are infrequent and very small compared to the rewards of crushing your market competition and driving them out of the marketplace.
you're new to this, aren't you?
books have costs - writer, typeset (eBook formats don't create themselves, or they have really undreadable layout like many Kindle works), proof, translation for world market, regional customization (the UK version of a book is not the same as the American one, for example), and so on - even eBooks
Why have any middleman?
I'd still prefer a paperback than any eBook.
sorry, but I don't WANT a hardcover. Or an eBook.
I just want a nice cheap paperback.
I have a feeling, since I want China and Spam providers off my Net, and the NSA wants us civilians off the Net we taxpayers paid for, that both of us will be disappointed when neither event occurs.
We have to remember that it is possible that, in the current market, due to markup costs, eBooks may be selling for less than they cost per unit.
The only metrics that matter to the consumer are price and utility.
The only metrics that matter to the writer are profit and control.
The only metrics that matter to the middleman (book publisher, distributor) are profit per unit.
We can't compare apples to oranges. We can't use Gross Sales Price, since many books sell for less, due to markdowns and returns in the distribution channel. We need Net price after costs, including tech support and returns, and capital requirements.
If we sell one eBook for $5 million but it gets copied electronically so that we make no other sales, and this electronic version reduces physical book sales by a larger amount (due to piracy), then we lose money.
I'm not quite sure why you seem to think we don't.
We have many iPads at the UW. We also have Kindles and netbooks.
They all work. They're all in use in classes.
You misspelled Prius...
teen boys can't afford Prius
Never forget the pris dork factor of waving those things around.
Having your parents buy this is a great way to ensure your virginity if you're a teen boy.
I can see using some of the 3D printers. I'll test them out on the ones for the models at Fashion Week in the NYT.
FEC FTC WTF ... sorry, all those TLAs get mixed up.