But the reason people want to buy the Wii is that when they look at all the demos and announced games for it, and how they can be used, they lose interest in the PS3 quickly.
At first, I thought I'd probably end up with a PS3. Then I read the list of games and read about them - and I thought I might want to get both. Then I saw and followed the E3 coverage and the pricing - and I decided I'm buying the Wii first and will wait quite a while before I'll think of buying the PS3.
The 360s been out for a while, and I haven't heard of more than two games (other than multi-platform) that I might want to play on that, and I got burned in buying an xBox for just two games, so I'm not doing that again.
So, the decision is driven by the games, but the pricing and other factors aren't helping Sony or Microsoft any.
I agree. I haven't had one discussion with any kid or teen in which they expressed the slightest interest in the BRD player features of the PS3 - it's all been about the games they could play on it.
So long as that's so, Sony has to bring their non-crippled price down to at least the $500 UDS equivalent price mark, or there will be a lot of surprised Sony execs realizing they messed up come Christmas.
Especially when the Wii is going to be even cheaper than that.
I mean, to think that they used plastic housing cases that weren't exactly the same as the final production models, even if all the important metal and fiber bits inside were!
I am just appalled.
Oh, wait. No, it's Friday.
Never mind: I forgot I actually have a life.
As you were.
They can put them in brown paper sacks for all I care.
Pesticides was in quotes because plants produce thousands of natural pesticides without any human help, why aren't people worried about them?
I have no idea. I was just indicating a possible role whereby one might reasonably expect a regulatory agency like the FDA to become involved. And, actually, we do notice that diet can cause such impacts, when certain organic pesticides produced by plants become a major component in people's diets, or they lack specific abilities to break down said pesticides or pass them through without impact. This is normally more of an issue with women and girls, who have far more efficient dietary systems (men tend not to trap such things, as they tend to be less efficient).
As for your claim about Parkinson's disease, you might not be aware of this, but rotenone, the pesticide you are referring to, is a nasty synthetic creation. Guess where biotech scientists get their genes for producing corn borer resistant plants? Thats right, other organisms. Without a solid grasp of the science involved I think it's safe to say that Slashdot commenters and "bioethicists" really should remain out of the discussion, but that of course won't happen
Again, as you said, it won't happen. The point being that the discussion has ensued and we have to come out of our ivory towers. Well, actually, I'm in an office building near Gas Works Park, and most of the people I referred to are based out of giant lab buildings that are part of Health Sciences complex or the UW Medical Center (it's about 20 buildings, and then we have maybe ten others spread around the city, plus the people at Harborview and VA Medical Centers). No ivory towers for us...
Unless we get the nanobots to make them for us... and we do have some that do some interesting things... not at that scale yet.
i do know the differences, but I can't be expected to know about someone from Wisconsin when I live in Washington state - there's something like 454 of those guys in the House and 100 in the Senate, and I've maybe met 20 senators and 50 congressmembers.
Here's to getting a Wii and (probably!) Spore! *clinky clinky cheers-type sound*
I'm with you there. It looks like all the sweet games will be on the Wii, and Will Wright likes to port to other boxen, so we can expect a Wii port at the very least.
That was the first "oh shit" moment with Spore for me - when Will Wright was talking about the cell phone port as well. Hopefully that means just one phase or something. . . like the "spore" phase.
But the idea that a Cell phone's limited interface will allow it to play the same game as a PC. . . just indicates it's not going to be that good.
He means like how they have Sims 2 for the PS2 and PSP and also on some cell phone game thing.
It's kind of like the old Animal Crossing for the Gamecube lets you play a download game from it on a GameBoy when you connect them, where you get a mini game.
Remember, they were talking to the marketing droid side, not the Will Wright side. They don't grok any of this. They just push tin.
my guess is, if they're using a large-scale assault, they're probably trying to cover their tracks more, but yeah, many Comcast systems are pretty open - I've got mine on 128-bit encryption, password-locked (random non-dictionary plus symbols with a virus/etc blocked set of PCs and Mac behind it.
So, having it come from the more easily compromised China side is probably more a matter of convenience than location.
good point. My guess would be the only creatures they're demoing are furless for one and only two reasons - um, wait it's three - ok, here goes:
1. fur is added later in design and uses a lot of graphics, so they don't want to demo that part until it works well.
2. mammary glands and shape alterations between male/female imply having two basic X/Y paths for the biomorph, plus are probably also later in the graphics design schedule. Again, they don't want to demo such things until they work well, is my guess.
3. not everyone is as sex-obsessed as you appear to be. You'd love my uploaded Sims 2: University lots and stories, even though I don't actually show anything, I just make you think I showed it.
So, in short, I think we can expect that fur-bearing mammals will exist, with two or more genders, but that it's not ready for game time yet.
but when I RTFA I found he mostly talked about how he was sinking a lot of resources into Sony and Microsoft, which means they may have missed the boat since all of my peeps are buying the Wii when it comes out.
It's the games. Seriously, I don't care how the investors think about it. I was looking at investing in EA or Nintendo, but after reading this I just don't think they get it and will miss the wave that will dominate gaming for the next two years.
I'll still buy Spore and other Will Wright projects, of course.
For all we know, the Zombie Overlords live in Scranton, NJ or Brazil.
They're just using the incredibly insecure servers one can find in China and nearby countries to base the attacks from.
Now, that doesn't mean they aren't Chinese - in fact, that's quite possible - just that where an attack comes from is frequently not where the people who set it off are based in.
one should also point out that it's designed as a mobile chip, but for some reason they used as a desktop chip.
My question is: what's the bottom line in Power Usage, Heat Usage (have to run those fans or add weight for heatsinks), Price (Intel is generally more expensive), etc.
[caveat - I own Intel shares and don't own AMD shares]
Way back in the day... of Windows 95/98/Me, when you had to reboot your box at least once a day/week, when it would lockup for no reason...remember back then when Windows was an unreliable and undependable POS (note to MS apologists : yes, I know Windows doesn't crash that much nowadays etc., but do remember those ancient times when it did).
So why do I have to reboot my WinXP laptop sometimes a few times a day then?
surprised I am that a Microsoft Europe exec would flame Linux. not.
Right now, Microsoft is having to deal with possible lawsuits over tax implications of relocating patents and trademarks in Ireland to avoid taxes on US holdings, and being required to play fair with Open Source in Europe.
However, he's right about Open Source not being reliable - we accidently rebooted one of our Linux servers yesterday when trying to install some UPSMON software. So, it was only up and running for 80 days.
Now that is unreliable.
Meanwhile, I shut down my WinXP box, the only one in the lab, every day, as it gets unstable if I leave it on too long. OK, plus I save power. Every few days some software on it wants me to reboot the WinXP machine, so I might as well.
Corn that has a single gene inserted to make it naturally produce a "pesticide" which we dump all over ALL FOOD anyway? Hmm, this needs at least 15 years of testing and regulations so strict that you have to shut down a field if someone drops a kernel, as well as pay ridiculous fines, even though there has never been a single iota of credible, repeatable evidence that these products have harmed a single person or living creature (that they werent intended to, and by that i mean bugs)
Actually, most people aren't aware that many cases of Parkinson's Disease are triggered by pesticide usage, or passed on in triggered form from the maternal mitochondria. So having corn with a gene to produce "pesticides" might sound good, but could result in very unexpected results.
Science is a tool. It can be used for good - lasers for cateract surgery - or for bad - lasers on mutated sea bass. It's not scientists problem if we misuse their discoveries.
Slashdot Mirror
But the reason people want to buy the Wii is that when they look at all the demos and announced games for it, and how they can be used, they lose interest in the PS3 quickly.
At first, I thought I'd probably end up with a PS3. Then I read the list of games and read about them - and I thought I might want to get both. Then I saw and followed the E3 coverage and the pricing - and I decided I'm buying the Wii first and will wait quite a while before I'll think of buying the PS3.
The 360s been out for a while, and I haven't heard of more than two games (other than multi-platform) that I might want to play on that, and I got burned in buying an xBox for just two games, so I'm not doing that again.
So, the decision is driven by the games, but the pricing and other factors aren't helping Sony or Microsoft any.
I'm sorry comrade, but we'd have to put you inside a Gamecube shell first, and I have a suspicion your hardware and software probably won't fit.
I agree. I haven't had one discussion with any kid or teen in which they expressed the slightest interest in the BRD player features of the PS3 - it's all been about the games they could play on it.
So long as that's so, Sony has to bring their non-crippled price down to at least the $500 UDS equivalent price mark, or there will be a lot of surprised Sony execs realizing they messed up come Christmas.
Especially when the Wii is going to be even cheaper than that.
And was the controller just a mars bar wrapped in tin foil?
No, it was a belgian chocolate mockup wrapped in gold foil, and the whole audience was responding to hypnotic suggestion.
Well, that does it for me, I'll choose the incredibly stable never-used-before Blu-ray PS3 instead of the Wii.
It's not like I care about the games more than the boxes anyways.
Can a GC be overclocked and still work?
Well, maybe it can, but I want to know if we can make a Beowulf cluster out of Wii hardware.
Then we can have a Wii Beowulf cluster.
Thanks, I'll be here all week.
I mean, to think that they used plastic housing cases that weren't exactly the same as the final production models, even if all the important metal and fiber bits inside were!
I am just appalled.
Oh, wait. No, it's Friday.
Never mind: I forgot I actually have a life.
As you were.
They can put them in brown paper sacks for all I care.
Pesticides was in quotes because plants produce thousands of natural pesticides without any human help, why aren't people worried about them?
...
... and we do have some that do some interesting things ... not at that scale yet.
I have no idea. I was just indicating a possible role whereby one might reasonably expect a regulatory agency like the FDA to become involved. And, actually, we do notice that diet can cause such impacts, when certain organic pesticides produced by plants become a major component in people's diets, or they lack specific abilities to break down said pesticides or pass them through without impact. This is normally more of an issue with women and girls, who have far more efficient dietary systems (men tend not to trap such things, as they tend to be less efficient).
As for your claim about Parkinson's disease, you might not be aware of this, but rotenone, the pesticide you are referring to, is a nasty synthetic creation. Guess where biotech scientists get their genes for producing corn borer resistant plants? Thats right, other organisms. Without a solid grasp of the science involved I think it's safe to say that Slashdot commenters and "bioethicists" really should remain out of the discussion, but that of course won't happen
Again, as you said, it won't happen. The point being that the discussion has ensued and we have to come out of our ivory towers. Well, actually, I'm in an office building near Gas Works Park, and most of the people I referred to are based out of giant lab buildings that are part of Health Sciences complex or the UW Medical Center (it's about 20 buildings, and then we have maybe ten others spread around the city, plus the people at Harborview and VA Medical Centers). No ivory towers for us
Unless we get the nanobots to make them for us
i do know the differences, but I can't be expected to know about someone from Wisconsin when I live in Washington state - there's something like 454 of those guys in the House and 100 in the Senate, and I've maybe met 20 senators and 50 congressmembers.
I read that directly in the main article linked in the story.
They said it was the mobile chip.
If wrong, then my apologies.
Here's to getting a Wii and (probably!) Spore! *clinky clinky cheers-type sound*
I'm with you there. It looks like all the sweet games will be on the Wii, and Will Wright likes to port to other boxen, so we can expect a Wii port at the very least.
That was the first "oh shit" moment with Spore for me - when Will Wright was talking about the cell phone port as well.
Hopefully that means just one phase or something. . . like the "spore" phase.
But the idea that a Cell phone's limited interface will allow it to play the same game as a PC. . . just indicates it's not going to be that good.
He means like how they have Sims 2 for the PS2 and PSP and also on some cell phone game thing.
It's kind of like the old Animal Crossing for the Gamecube lets you play a download game from it on a GameBoy when you connect them, where you get a mini game.
Remember, they were talking to the marketing droid side, not the Will Wright side. They don't grok any of this. They just push tin.
sorry, I was using teen lingo - my son says that a lot, I've ended up doing it too.
... they go well with home-made espresso drinks!
my peeps are all gold-foil wrapped belgian chocolate easter bunnies
my guess is, if they're using a large-scale assault, they're probably trying to cover their tracks more, but yeah, many Comcast systems are pretty open - I've got mine on 128-bit encryption, password-locked (random non-dictionary plus symbols with a virus/etc blocked set of PCs and Mac behind it.
...
So, having it come from the more easily compromised China side is probably more a matter of convenience than location.
Of course, you never know
good point. My guess would be the only creatures they're demoing are furless for one and only two reasons - um, wait it's three - ok, here goes:
1. fur is added later in design and uses a lot of graphics, so they don't want to demo that part until it works well.
2. mammary glands and shape alterations between male/female imply having two basic X/Y paths for the biomorph, plus are probably also later in the graphics design schedule. Again, they don't want to demo such things until they work well, is my guess.
3. not everyone is as sex-obsessed as you appear to be. You'd love my uploaded Sims 2: University lots and stories, even though I don't actually show anything, I just make you think I showed it.
So, in short, I think we can expect that fur-bearing mammals will exist, with two or more genders, but that it's not ready for game time yet.
actually, the Harry Potter games aren't bad, and at least each one is different from the others.
but when I RTFA I found he mostly talked about how he was sinking a lot of resources into Sony and Microsoft, which means they may have missed the boat since all of my peeps are buying the Wii when it comes out.
It's the games. Seriously, I don't care how the investors think about it. I was looking at investing in EA or Nintendo, but after reading this I just don't think they get it and will miss the wave that will dominate gaming for the next two years.
I'll still buy Spore and other Will Wright projects, of course.
For all we know, the Zombie Overlords live in Scranton, NJ or Brazil.
They're just using the incredibly insecure servers one can find in China and nearby countries to base the attacks from.
Now, that doesn't mean they aren't Chinese - in fact, that's quite possible - just that where an attack comes from is frequently not where the people who set it off are based in.
one should also point out that it's designed as a mobile chip, but for some reason they used as a desktop chip.
My question is: what's the bottom line in Power Usage, Heat Usage (have to run those fans or add weight for heatsinks), Price (Intel is generally more expensive), etc.
[caveat - I own Intel shares and don't own AMD shares]
Way back in the day... of Windows 95/98/Me, when you had to reboot your box at least once a day/week, when it would lockup for no reason...remember back then when Windows was an unreliable and undependable POS (note to MS apologists : yes, I know Windows doesn't crash that much nowadays etc., but do remember those ancient times when it did).
So why do I have to reboot my WinXP laptop sometimes a few times a day then?
in general, with Win systems, we figure a max of one week uptime before things head south, with actual usage at research loads.
surprised I am that a Microsoft Europe exec would flame Linux. not.
Right now, Microsoft is having to deal with possible lawsuits over tax implications of relocating patents and trademarks in Ireland to avoid taxes on US holdings, and being required to play fair with Open Source in Europe.
However, he's right about Open Source not being reliable - we accidently rebooted one of our Linux servers yesterday when trying to install some UPSMON software. So, it was only up and running for 80 days.
Now that is unreliable.
Meanwhile, I shut down my WinXP box, the only one in the lab, every day, as it gets unstable if I leave it on too long. OK, plus I save power. Every few days some software on it wants me to reboot the WinXP machine, so I might as well.
not for describing how to do something that everyone is already doing.
In related news, the Vatican announces Earth is not flat.
since they're just paintings.
...
But, if they had access to Helium back then, now that would be interesting
great so now I'm all confused.
Whatever. So long as they love impeachment, they're my man/woman.
Corn that has a single gene inserted to make it naturally produce a "pesticide" which we dump all over ALL FOOD anyway? Hmm, this needs at least 15 years of testing and regulations so strict that you have to shut down a field if someone drops a kernel, as well as pay ridiculous fines, even though there has never been a single iota of credible, repeatable evidence that these products have harmed a single person or living creature (that they werent intended to, and by that i mean bugs)
Actually, most people aren't aware that many cases of Parkinson's Disease are triggered by pesticide usage, or passed on in triggered form from the maternal mitochondria. So having corn with a gene to produce "pesticides" might sound good, but could result in very unexpected results.
Science is a tool. It can be used for good - lasers for cateract surgery - or for bad - lasers on mutated sea bass. It's not scientists problem if we misuse their discoveries.