No kidding. It'll take us at least ten years to find any monoliths.
Well, even if we had FTL, it's still 41 lightyears away.
I figure if we get up to 0.5 light speed, we could have an observatory there by the time I die. Of course, I'd never see the pics, as it would take 41 years for the signals to return.
Well, yes, 41 lightyears is nearby. If you were to look at our galaxy, you'd see it had a nice big core, and a number of spiral arms. From a viewpoint above, 41 lightyears from our Sol is the same basic location.
The galaxy is a fairly big place. It may not be very thick in lightyears, but in the other two dimensions, it's much much bigger.
Geesh, they find evidence of three planets around a Sol-like star, and you want them to have more details than that? Give them some more time to analyze the data, it's hard to pick up smaller perturbations at a 41 lightyear range.
I got two states from the current makeup of the House, and the fact that Russ Feingold holds only one seat in his state, and the other occupant is highly unlikely to support impeachment.
But a number of Western States have rules whereby our elected officials have to represent our interests on certain issues.
Your mileage may vary.
As I said, I'll confirm this with Russ in person Saturday night. After I sell him a raffle ticket.
oh, I thought we were talking about the United States of Armenia. That USA.
so, I suppose my analogies about a 375 kg orange gorilla are totally useless in understanding what it's like fending off an 800 pound blue gorilla, right?
how much you want to bet the court eventually tosses this, after sufficient lawyers are thrown at the problem by Google? I've got no irons in the fire on this, but I predict that's what will end up happening.
Google is a US firm, any lawsuit filed against them is a lawsuit against the US entity. However, good catch in that it's a Belgian lawsuit.
So, we can thereby infer that any such restriction would be limited to Belgium. Which would then be appealed.
We can also infer that, since Google has a pile of money big enough to reach the moon (not a joke), they can hire lots of Belgian and heck even Walloon lawyers to argue this case six ways to Sunday.
My original premise still stands, but thank your for the clarification of the filing location of the suit.
Wouldn't the terrorists just say, "Crap, they know about it! Call it off."
No, because the terrorists we're concerned with tend to be highly trained, and operating on strict instructions. They use pay phones, disposable cell phones, use common code words that can't be deciphered as in:
Terrorist 1: "It's a nice day out today, have you seen all the flowers on the hill?" [translation, operation is go, no surveillance, targets are all in site and unguarded, ready to roll]
Terrorist 2: "Yes, John Stanford, I noticed they were red and they smelled nice." [translation, checked security on escape routes 2 and 3, group 5 may be under surveillance, will proceed with operable cell on mission]
Terrorist 3: "Well, say hi to Mary for me, and don't be a stranger!" [translation, will pass on status, money in transit for final attack, remember to wire back unsent funds via the prearranged purchase of expensive HDTV to be "refunded" by another person with receipts at drop box]
Face it, we have the Keystone Cops trying to capture Speedy Gonzalez. It ain't gonna happen.
Is that anyone can sue anybody for anything, even if it's later:
a. tossed out of court; b. found totally without cause; or c. settled because the group/person being sued doesn't have enough legal firepower or deep pockets to fight the case.
I predict that Google, who have just a teeny bit of money, isn't too worried about this one.
Now, if it were say a Linux distro being sued by say a Unix license owner who claimed they had stolen their code, that's another animal, but that's because most distros don't have deep pockets or lawyers to throw on fires for no good reason.
Yes, that is a horrible, witless analogy. Impeachments aren't waiting in the wings, held back by some action from an administration. They are brought to the person in question based on actions, lying to grand juries, etc (ask the last president)
Actually, if two states file for impeachment, the Congress has to start proceedings.
It's this thing called the Constitution: learn it, love it.
We have to remember the last Presidency to fall for this was for just using tape recorders to tap just one phone, which then revealed taped conversations in only one room (the Oval Office) - the information in those tapes was what resulted in the hearings.
Oh, and there was some issue of a quagmire of a war that we didn't need to fight that was bankrupting the nation for no reason. no historical correlation to today, of course...
Note the inferences from internal documents that such rooms were built not just in San Francisco, but in Seattle and other cities.
Also note that this is literally vacuuming up all the message traffic which bounces thru all these locations, even if it's US to US.
Theoretically, they could then disregard traffic that is US to US, but the tendency among intel agencies is to always build it so that you can inspect the raw flow when you want to.
Another easy thing they could do is just "backup" the call logs from any of the switches, which record the keypress, routing, connect, and status of phone calls for any landline or cell phone - it's just a log file, easy to make a copy with a fairly inexpensive device patch. Or just run a cron job to do it.
and some segment overlays where there are gaps, due to the methods used in sequencing.
One of the interesting fallouts of the the HGS is that we now realize that some people have inverted SNP and other anomolies, some of which were inherited from ancestors way back before we broke off from other simians.
And one should always point out that the difference in any segment from one human to another is greater than the difference between say the standard human sequence to a standard chimpanzee sequence, just as the difference between one human to another human is greater than the difference between a standard male sequence and a standard female sequence.
I think I said that right.
Now, if we could just figure out where the misfolds happen, we'd be right as rain.
Oh, and in case you wondered, race is just noise and meaningless at the genetic level - it's just adaptations to specific climates. Plop down an Inuvuk Native in Hawaii, along with other Inuvuks, let them live there for a few tens of thousands of years, and they'll look similar to other Hawaiian Natives.
Plop a Northern European down in Ethiopia, take the same time, and they'll look like people in Ethiopia do, with minor variations.
I was making a point, not seriously arguing that tape isn't a good idea, just that our usage of tape for backup is dramatically lower than it used to be even five years ago. We tend to use RAID and mirrored copies much more often.
I used to work for Structural Genomics in Biochem and now work for Medical Genetics in the Dept of Medicine - and between the two floors is Genome Sciences - I know what you mean, some of the data we worked with need Terabyte storage.
however, you're avoiding the biological fact that wheat, by its nature, spread seeds.
in fact, we've found biological cross-crop fertilization from wheat and other such grains as far as two states away (this is from discussions I had with agricultural genetics researchers over at the other UW, the University of Wisconsin (Madison)).
thus, the courts ruled correctly, in that there is a potential, even if not common, cross-state impact on commerce.
you may not like their decision, but the same basic principle applies to nanotechnology that may (even if not by design) cross into humans and/or cross state boundaries.
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No kidding. It'll take us at least ten years to find any monoliths.
Well, even if we had FTL, it's still 41 lightyears away.
I figure if we get up to 0.5 light speed, we could have an observatory there by the time I die. Of course, I'd never see the pics, as it would take 41 years for the signals to return.
thanks. sometimes it's hard to tell if people grok the implications.
Our first major broadcast went out in 1936, and arrived there in 1977.
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Great, so they think we've been fighting a world war based on race for the last decade, then
No wonder they don't come and visit us - I'd stay away.
Wonder what they'll think of all the Invading Saucer Men flicks that came out after WW II that they'll be seeing soon
It's kind of like Earth has a giant sign saying "Paranoid Hostiles here who will shoot anything that looks different" in orbit around us.
It's only a matter of time until somebody picks up our signals and comes to crash the party.
I'll bring the chips.
Let's hope they use radio and not telepathy though. Otherwise, I'm not touching the guacamole.
Well, yes, 41 lightyears is nearby. If you were to look at our galaxy, you'd see it had a nice big core, and a number of spiral arms. From a viewpoint above, 41 lightyears from our Sol is the same basic location.
The galaxy is a fairly big place. It may not be very thick in lightyears, but in the other two dimensions, it's much much bigger.
Geesh, they find evidence of three planets around a Sol-like star, and you want them to have more details than that? Give them some more time to analyze the data, it's hard to pick up smaller perturbations at a 41 lightyear range.
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and use them to crack the Human-Chimp Hybrid Genome from bone marrow from our monkey-loving human ancestors six million years ago!
... woah, mind back to my work ...
Say, that chimp's looking awful nice there
thanks for the clarifying information.
I got two states from the current makeup of the House, and the fact that Russ Feingold holds only one seat in his state, and the other occupant is highly unlikely to support impeachment.
But a number of Western States have rules whereby our elected officials have to represent our interests on certain issues.
Your mileage may vary.
As I said, I'll confirm this with Russ in person Saturday night. After I sell him a raffle ticket.
History is written by the victors.
Reality is what we perceive to happen.
Physics is what really happened.
Chemistry is what we wish happened.
And biology is what makes the world go round (ok, maybe physics, but you know what I mean).
I'm fairly young, I only remember building S100 bus computers and when 300 baud was fast for a modem.
I've already tossed Microsoft Windows out the Window.
I'll ask Russ himself on Saturday night, he'll be at a party we're having in Seattle. IANAL.
In which the husband gets custody of the mutant half-gerbils and the wife gets possession of all the unworldly assets.
They leak water when they ring in your pocket.
Think about it.
"Is your cell phone in your shirt pocket or are you just drooling?"
oh, I thought we were talking about the United States of Armenia. That USA.
so, I suppose my analogies about a 375 kg orange gorilla are totally useless in understanding what it's like fending off an 800 pound blue gorilla, right?
how much you want to bet the court eventually tosses this, after sufficient lawyers are thrown at the problem by Google? I've got no irons in the fire on this, but I predict that's what will end up happening.
Google is a US firm, any lawsuit filed against them is a lawsuit against the US entity. However, good catch in that it's a Belgian lawsuit.
So, we can thereby infer that any such restriction would be limited to Belgium. Which would then be appealed.
We can also infer that, since Google has a pile of money big enough to reach the moon (not a joke), they can hire lots of Belgian and heck even Walloon lawyers to argue this case six ways to Sunday.
My original premise still stands, but thank your for the clarification of the filing location of the suit.
Wouldn't the terrorists just say, "Crap, they know about it! Call it off."
No, because the terrorists we're concerned with tend to be highly trained, and operating on strict instructions. They use pay phones, disposable cell phones, use common code words that can't be deciphered as in:
Terrorist 1: "It's a nice day out today, have you seen all the flowers on the hill?"
[translation, operation is go, no surveillance, targets are all in site and unguarded, ready to roll]
Terrorist 2: "Yes, John Stanford, I noticed they were red and they smelled nice."
[translation, checked security on escape routes 2 and 3, group 5 may be under surveillance, will proceed with operable cell on mission]
Terrorist 3: "Well, say hi to Mary for me, and don't be a stranger!"
[translation, will pass on status, money in transit for final attack, remember to wire back unsent funds via the prearranged purchase of expensive HDTV to be "refunded" by another person with receipts at drop box]
Face it, we have the Keystone Cops trying to capture Speedy Gonzalez. It ain't gonna happen.
Is that anyone can sue anybody for anything, even if it's later:
a. tossed out of court;
b. found totally without cause; or
c. settled because the group/person being sued doesn't have enough legal firepower or deep pockets to fight the case.
I predict that Google, who have just a teeny bit of money, isn't too worried about this one.
Now, if it were say a Linux distro being sued by say a Unix license owner who claimed they had stolen their code, that's another animal, but that's because most distros don't have deep pockets or lawyers to throw on fires for no good reason.
Yes, that is a horrible, witless analogy. Impeachments aren't waiting in the wings, held back by some action from an administration. They are brought to the person in question based on actions, lying to grand juries, etc (ask the last president)
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Actually, if two states file for impeachment, the Congress has to start proceedings.
It's this thing called the Constitution: learn it, love it.
We have to remember the last Presidency to fall for this was for just using tape recorders to tap just one phone, which then revealed taped conversations in only one room (the Oval Office) - the information in those tapes was what resulted in the hearings.
Oh, and there was some issue of a quagmire of a war that we didn't need to fight that was bankrupting the nation for no reason. no historical correlation to today, of course
Now where did i leave that sarcasm key
Note the inferences from internal documents that such rooms were built not just in San Francisco, but in Seattle and other cities.
Also note that this is literally vacuuming up all the message traffic which bounces thru all these locations, even if it's US to US.
Theoretically, they could then disregard traffic that is US to US, but the tendency among intel agencies is to always build it so that you can inspect the raw flow when you want to.
Another easy thing they could do is just "backup" the call logs from any of the switches, which record the keypress, routing, connect, and status of phone calls for any landline or cell phone - it's just a log file, easy to make a copy with a fairly inexpensive device patch. Or just run a cron job to do it.
and some segment overlays where there are gaps, due to the methods used in sequencing.
One of the interesting fallouts of the the HGS is that we now realize that some people have inverted SNP and other anomolies, some of which were inherited from ancestors way back before we broke off from other simians.
And one should always point out that the difference in any segment from one human to another is greater than the difference between say the standard human sequence to a standard chimpanzee sequence, just as the difference between one human to another human is greater than the difference between a standard male sequence and a standard female sequence.
I think I said that right.
Now, if we could just figure out where the misfolds happen, we'd be right as rain.
Oh, and in case you wondered, race is just noise and meaningless at the genetic level - it's just adaptations to specific climates. Plop down an Inuvuk Native in Hawaii, along with other Inuvuks, let them live there for a few tens of thousands of years, and they'll look similar to other Hawaiian Natives.
Plop a Northern European down in Ethiopia, take the same time, and they'll look like people in Ethiopia do, with minor variations.
you just need a really really really big disk ...
I was making a point, not seriously arguing that tape isn't a good idea, just that our usage of tape for backup is dramatically lower than it used to be even five years ago. We tend to use RAID and mirrored copies much more often.
I used to work for Structural Genomics in Biochem and now work for Medical Genetics in the Dept of Medicine - and between the two floors is Genome Sciences - I know what you mean, some of the data we worked with need Terabyte storage.
hmm, very good idea, but I think we need to add invasive strip searches and selling the actual pics on the Internet to increase the profit ...
that said, maybe we could use some nanobots with videocams?
however, you're avoiding the biological fact that wheat, by its nature, spread seeds.
in fact, we've found biological cross-crop fertilization from wheat and other such grains as far as two states away (this is from discussions I had with agricultural genetics researchers over at the other UW, the University of Wisconsin (Madison)).
thus, the courts ruled correctly, in that there is a potential, even if not common, cross-state impact on commerce.
you may not like their decision, but the same basic principle applies to nanotechnology that may (even if not by design) cross into humans and/or cross state boundaries.