Couldn't this be considered somehow as animal cruelty?
Actually, I was just talking with my Primary Investigator (PI) about that, how in studies of bacteria and fruit flies and even worms (like c.elegans, my fave) we get away with stuff that people would be protesting about if we did it to monkeys, dogs, or cats, and even if it happened to mice.
Mind you, when you have a lifespan measured in hours, the concept of premature death due to cancer just isn't the same thing.
"Martha, they're experimenting on us again!" "Just be quiet and take your Viagra, Donald, you're a fruit fly."
The future will be full of cars that only exaust water....and fueling stations brimming with switch-grass, corn-mash, stale beer, human feces, and the occasional Rhodoferax ferrireducens bateria. And I thought horses smelled bad....
Just imagine what siphoning fuel will be like - and you thought gasoline tasted bad...
well, it might not be efficient for fuel cells, but you have to admit, using them to clean out clogged toilets could be a shocking experience, and maybe we could make glow-bulbs that float in raw sewage so it would be prettier...
I don't know about you, but I'm moving to that nearby planetary Sol system with three Jovian planets - it's only 41 lightyears away... you think we'll be safe there when the heliosphere bubble pops, given that large proto-rip?
After all, if you installed it over your wireless, other people might be able to steal your super-secret decoder ring software keys and mirror it to their laptops too!
Apparently next week they're planning to do a big raid of about 10 major street gangs and they're planing to take 5000 guns off the streets! Oh wait whats that? they're not planning a raid to take guns off the streets? they're going to instead concentrate solely on copyright infringement?
One should point out that, instead of actually arresting and jailing active al-Qaeda cells, which find Germany to be a safe harbor, they're doing this instead.
My brother went to the University of Hamburg, and got an LLD at UBC, and he always found this misallocation of resources to be very puzzling indeed in terms of what they actually investigate in Germany.
that caused the Quakers and other groups to move to America in the first place.
Oh, sure, you say, just because 130 homes have been raided in Germany under the allegation of filesharing, that's not religious persecution.
But, what if your religious beliefs involved the principle that no man can own what we now call Intellectual Property, as the vast majority of religions believed until the mid-20th century?
The very concept that one can "own" an idea, from many viewpoints, can be seen as offensive to God (or Gods, if you are of that nature).
It's time to realize that Bill Gates was wrong when he sent that letter to the open source community that was freely sharing source code for computer programs - he was the lone heretic at the time, and most people believed that code, like speech, should be free.
Most of even the people on slashdot don't grok that you literally do not own, in a legal definition, your very DNA sequence, or have any rights to it, in most states in the USA or other countries around the world. They can pick up some cells from you, and make a wonder drug, and you have literally no say in the matter.
The same goes for file sharing. In the beginning of music recording, the only time an artist got paid was when he actually played, and recording tapes were shared to wide audiences, or played on radios. Then we decided to impose limited music fees for a limited (7 years) time.
Now that period is 70 years after you die, but you can extend it even further by just "re-recording" it while you still hold the license, and claiming a new file date, as Disney and others do periodically.
File-sharing is just the front lines of this fight - the fight to truly make us free - and our silence becomes our complicity. Sure, you think, I might one day go on American Idol and become a rich superstar, so I'll be quiet. But, the cold hard truth is - you're not going to. Very very few people ever will. Those who can actually become rich from this are almost always the middlemen, and virtually all artists never make as much as they can from a normal day job.
I'm not your average American, I actually served in the Canadian Army, mostly in mountain troops, and thus my comments on the robo gecko technology uses for military applications. But, yes, I am a Yank. Heard about the combat death of the Canadian soldier who died last week, think she was from Alberta, in a combat MOC as I understand.
Still, wouldn't you rather it was a robot gecko climbing up there first, rather than a person? Especially if it slips or falls or is shot down...
What method do you approve of to get the point across?
My guess is the only method they approve is having a legal protest where lawyers arrive and serve people with lawsuits, as is usually the case here in America with things we never agreed to like DRM. Which as you pointed out, requires lots of money, and thus is highly unlikely.
Remember, our leaders never said "We must fight to preserve our Digital Rights Management schemes! That's why we're in Baghdad and Tehran!"
Instead they just imposed them on us, and tried to sneak the legislation and accompanying frameworks thru without notice.
My question is, does the armies interest stem from creating an army of spidermen?
I doubt the Army is interested in wall-climbing robots to make SpiderMen. More likely, they want man-portable devices that can climb up walls with sensors (for detection/observation), thin lead lines and anchors (to anchor a climbing rope that humans with packs can then climb), and so that they can scale up to hard-to-reach observation posts with remote-controlled sniper rifles.
Or maybe they just want us to think they actually care about Afghanistan, instead of ignore it so that only the Canucks and Brits are fighting the Real War.
Either way, I don't think we're likely to see a new commercial like this: "Be an Army of One! Climb Towers, Leap from Buildings, Spin Webs, and use your Spidey-Senses to detect enemy soldiers! Join the Spider Marines today!"
yeah, but if you could program it to play music you like when you do run, and ok music when you walk, and really bad music when you sit down, then it might work for you...
According to a number of my city councilmembers, Seattle will be offering free city-wide broadband access in all public buildings soon. Kind of like how South Korea has faster speeds than most US providers give you.
Another possibility with a Nike/Apple experience is what I ran into this morning in trying to upgrade my Apple Quicktime (free) software on a Windows XP box - it said my email address was invalid (amusing, guess all 20,000 students at the UW don't have emails).
Which makes me think of someone running along, listening to their iPod, and it starts to download a firmware upgrade and cuts out midstride, setting their running shoes on fire.
That won't short out when you do the swimming portion.
And, has anyone thought of having it make your shoes shuffle when you set the iPod on "shuffle"?
Nike: Just Do It But First Pay Money
Seriously, though, as a former marathon runner (2 hr 29 minutes back when the world record was 2 hr 14 minutes), I question the practical utility of an integrated shoe to iPod link - sure, it's nice to know your approximate pedometer rating, but in reality that is not a real number, only an estimation based on your running stride and (more likely) walking stride - pedometers tend to fail when you are in hill climb and downhill portions.
One would be better served by a GPS integrated iPod that has a calculator function that tells you your literal pace, infers heartrate from a standard external monitor, and shows comparison timings from when you do a fast run at increased speed for a shorter practice run as a goal setter, and possibly uses the iPod music interface to tell you useful information such as:
1. 20 miles to go! 2. take a drink of water soon (elapsed time indicates thirst) 3. you are running at/above/below peak training speed (based on prior training or estimated speeds) 4. hill coming up, duration 2 miles (based on GPS readings and the route/map you gave) 5. only 4 miles to go! (as you get further on)
And so on.
But none of that has anything to do with a shoe. You're far better off with a watch/GPS that connects to your iPod.
My friend and I were talking about this exact topic at lunch--except we were talking about the XBox 360. I have not bought a 360 yet because there are no 360 based games that I am dying to play. I have no incentive to shell out $400 for a console that, atm, doesnt give anything better than what I currently own.
Exactly. I'm still waiting for some PS3 games that will make me pay attention - I haven't heard of more than two so far, and that's not enough to buy a console with.
I did that once before, bought an xBox when it only had two games I wanted to play out of all the many hundreds - and I regretted it. Now, I never count cross-platform because... I can get those on any console anyway.
The only way that the American public would actually care about this case is if the NSA was sharing the data with the IRS. Then you might here a public outcry.
Well, citizen, you can sleep soundly. The NSA isn't sharing data with the IRS.
On the other hand, the IRS is sharing data with the NSA, so don't bother setting your burglar alarm when they come for you. It will have already been turned off remotely.
Nope, they have gigapop internet, a tabbed browser, dual core CPU, and accounts that have existed since Malda was a boy.
I remember 110 baud. I remember typing in the AT commands manually and making an S100 bus computer. Heck, I remember dialing my floppy drives spin ratio.
I even remember when geeks weren't sexy... and genetics wasn't either.
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Couldn't this be considered somehow as animal cruelty?
Actually, I was just talking with my Primary Investigator (PI) about that, how in studies of bacteria and fruit flies and even worms (like c.elegans, my fave) we get away with stuff that people would be protesting about if we did it to monkeys, dogs, or cats, and even if it happened to mice.
Mind you, when you have a lifespan measured in hours, the concept of premature death due to cancer just isn't the same thing.
"Martha, they're experimenting on us again!" "Just be quiet and take your Viagra, Donald, you're a fruit fly."
The future will be full of cars that only exaust water....and fueling stations brimming with switch-grass, corn-mash, stale beer, human feces, and the occasional Rhodoferax ferrireducens bateria. And I thought horses smelled bad....
...
Just imagine what siphoning fuel will be like - and you thought gasoline tasted bad
well, it might not be efficient for fuel cells, but you have to admit, using them to clean out clogged toilets could be a shocking experience, and maybe we could make glow-bulbs that float in raw sewage so it would be prettier ...
I think they're already made out of metal, but I'm sure someone like the Pres will award a robot one at some point. It's all about the PR.
well, soldiers in WW II and Korea got very attached to their guard dogs, it's not that different.
but you can't love your battle bot.
I think the new spider wall-climbing battle bots will have an optional add-on for that, but it will cost you.
don't confuse which end you plug in, though.
I don't know about you, but I'm moving to that nearby planetary Sol system with three Jovian planets - it's only 41 lightyears away ... you think we'll be safe there when the heliosphere bubble pops, given that large proto-rip?
....
Now where did I put my starship keys
.
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found 'em!
After all, if you installed it over your wireless, other people might be able to steal your super-secret decoder ring software keys and mirror it to their laptops too!
Apparently next week they're planning to do a big raid of about 10 major street gangs and they're planing to take 5000 guns off the streets! Oh wait whats that? they're not planning a raid to take guns off the streets? they're going to instead concentrate solely on copyright infringement?
One should point out that, instead of actually arresting and jailing active al-Qaeda cells, which find Germany to be a safe harbor, they're doing this instead.
My brother went to the University of Hamburg, and got an LLD at UBC, and he always found this misallocation of resources to be very puzzling indeed in terms of what they actually investigate in Germany.
that caused the Quakers and other groups to move to America in the first place.
Oh, sure, you say, just because 130 homes have been raided in Germany under the allegation of filesharing, that's not religious persecution.
But, what if your religious beliefs involved the principle that no man can own what we now call Intellectual Property, as the vast majority of religions believed until the mid-20th century?
The very concept that one can "own" an idea, from many viewpoints, can be seen as offensive to God (or Gods, if you are of that nature).
It's time to realize that Bill Gates was wrong when he sent that letter to the open source community that was freely sharing source code for computer programs - he was the lone heretic at the time, and most people believed that code, like speech, should be free.
Most of even the people on slashdot don't grok that you literally do not own, in a legal definition, your very DNA sequence, or have any rights to it, in most states in the USA or other countries around the world. They can pick up some cells from you, and make a wonder drug, and you have literally no say in the matter.
The same goes for file sharing. In the beginning of music recording, the only time an artist got paid was when he actually played, and recording tapes were shared to wide audiences, or played on radios. Then we decided to impose limited music fees for a limited (7 years) time.
Now that period is 70 years after you die, but you can extend it even further by just "re-recording" it while you still hold the license, and claiming a new file date, as Disney and others do periodically.
File-sharing is just the front lines of this fight - the fight to truly make us free - and our silence becomes our complicity. Sure, you think, I might one day go on American Idol and become a rich superstar, so I'll be quiet. But, the cold hard truth is - you're not going to. Very very few people ever will. Those who can actually become rich from this are almost always the middlemen, and virtually all artists never make as much as they can from a normal day job.
I'm not your average American, I actually served in the Canadian Army, mostly in mountain troops, and thus my comments on the robo gecko technology uses for military applications. But, yes, I am a Yank. Heard about the combat death of the Canadian soldier who died last week, think she was from Alberta, in a combat MOC as I understand.
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Still, wouldn't you rather it was a robot gecko climbing up there first, rather than a person? Especially if it slips or falls or is shot down
What method do you approve of to get the point across?
My guess is the only method they approve is having a legal protest where lawyers arrive and serve people with lawsuits, as is usually the case here in America with things we never agreed to like DRM. Which as you pointed out, requires lots of money, and thus is highly unlikely.
Remember, our leaders never said "We must fight to preserve our Digital Rights Management schemes! That's why we're in Baghdad and Tehran!"
Instead they just imposed them on us, and tried to sneak the legislation and accompanying frameworks thru without notice.
My question is, does the armies interest stem from creating an army of spidermen?
I doubt the Army is interested in wall-climbing robots to make SpiderMen. More likely, they want man-portable devices that can climb up walls with sensors (for detection/observation), thin lead lines and anchors (to anchor a climbing rope that humans with packs can then climb), and so that they can scale up to hard-to-reach observation posts with remote-controlled sniper rifles.
Or maybe they just want us to think they actually care about Afghanistan, instead of ignore it so that only the Canucks and Brits are fighting the Real War.
Either way, I don't think we're likely to see a new commercial like this: "Be an Army of One! Climb Towers, Leap from Buildings, Spin Webs, and use your Spidey-Senses to detect enemy soldiers! Join the Spider Marines today!"
yeah, but if you could program it to play music you like when you do run, and ok music when you walk, and really bad music when you sit down, then it might work for you ...
According to a number of my city councilmembers, Seattle will be offering free city-wide broadband access in all public buildings soon. Kind of like how South Korea has faster speeds than most US providers give you.
Another possibility with a Nike/Apple experience is what I ran into this morning in trying to upgrade my Apple Quicktime (free) software on a Windows XP box - it said my email address was invalid (amusing, guess all 20,000 students at the UW don't have emails).
Which makes me think of someone running along, listening to their iPod, and it starts to download a firmware upgrade and cuts out midstride, setting their running shoes on fire.
Feet don't fail me now!
That won't short out when you do the swimming portion.
And, has anyone thought of having it make your shoes shuffle when you set the iPod on "shuffle"?
Nike: Just Do It But First Pay Money
Seriously, though, as a former marathon runner (2 hr 29 minutes back when the world record was 2 hr 14 minutes), I question the practical utility of an integrated shoe to iPod link - sure, it's nice to know your approximate pedometer rating, but in reality that is not a real number, only an estimation based on your running stride and (more likely) walking stride - pedometers tend to fail when you are in hill climb and downhill portions.
One would be better served by a GPS integrated iPod that has a calculator function that tells you your literal pace, infers heartrate from a standard external monitor, and shows comparison timings from when you do a fast run at increased speed for a shorter practice run as a goal setter, and possibly uses the iPod music interface to tell you useful information such as:
1. 20 miles to go!
2. take a drink of water soon (elapsed time indicates thirst)
3. you are running at/above/below peak training speed (based on prior training or estimated speeds)
4. hill coming up, duration 2 miles (based on GPS readings and the route/map you gave)
5. only 4 miles to go! (as you get further on)
And so on.
But none of that has anything to do with a shoe. You're far better off with a watch/GPS that connects to your iPod.
My friend and I were talking about this exact topic at lunch--except we were talking about the XBox 360. I have not bought a 360 yet because there are no 360 based games that I am dying to play. I have no incentive to shell out $400 for a console that, atm, doesnt give anything better than what I currently own.
... I can get those on any console anyway.
Exactly. I'm still waiting for some PS3 games that will make me pay attention - I haven't heard of more than two so far, and that's not enough to buy a console with.
I did that once before, bought an xBox when it only had two games I wanted to play out of all the many hundreds - and I regretted it. Now, I never count cross-platform because
Make the games and I'll pay attention.
there's the trees in the world's largest national park just north of Whistler. trees have a habit of growing, you know.
but thanks for asking.
Even having grown up in communist Poland during the 1960s and 1970s, I cannot say that I've seen such a blatant attack on freedom and liberty.
Has anyone mentioned we're building a wall around the USA?
Of course, it's to keep the enemies of freedom and democracy out. The East Germans were told the same thing about their wall.
The only way that the American public would actually care about this case is if the NSA was sharing the data with the IRS. Then you might here a public outcry.
Well, citizen, you can sleep soundly. The NSA isn't sharing data with the IRS.
On the other hand, the IRS is sharing data with the NSA, so don't bother setting your burglar alarm when they come for you. It will have already been turned off remotely.
Boo!
He was only off by 20 years.
Is that like that thing in Sims 2 that you choose Study, College, Read from?
If so, they make to many piles on the floor, like dishes.
I think I'll just watch TV and learn cooking skill instead, thanks!
No one with 2605 posts to /. has a life :)
... and genetics wasn't either.
Nope, they have gigapop internet, a tabbed browser, dual core CPU, and accounts that have existed since Malda was a boy.
I remember 110 baud. I remember typing in the AT commands manually and making an S100 bus computer. Heck, I remember dialing my floppy drives spin ratio.
I even remember when geeks weren't sexy
I'll ask the Squirrel Liberation Army, they're a friend of mine here at the UW on Facebook.