What this could mean, should RedHat choose not to comply, is a revocation of their right to use GPL/GNU software, including the Linux kernel. This is a very serious matter.
They must be in fully compliance with the GPL or face the legal consquences of their actions, just like everyone else.
Perhaps we will see Linux distros move to a RHN type of distribution model to avoid creating CDs and ISOs that allow easy propogation of their commercial products. If you have to buy a subscription to RHN before your install disk will download the kernel and all the software from RedHat's site then it might still be in compliance with the GPL but create the sort of control structure they seem to be seeking.
That's all it is. The enterprise kernel is a standard linux kernel with an alan cox patch set and bunch of other patches applied on top of that. It is most likely tested thoroughly on configurations scaling up to 16+ CPUs and 4+ GB of RAM. But it is no different that taking the source from kernel.org and patching it yourself.
RedHat 9, for example, just doesn't have the same type of QA or stability patches. It has a bunch of performance patches, etc. that may not have been tested thoroughly, IMO. But I haven't done much research into this.
I treated 911 like an investigation. I would not accept that the Talebon, Bin Laden, etc. were behind it until I was shown proof, actual evidence and not just some circumstantial news broadcast with a bunch of Arabs from all over the middle eastern countries. But our administration knew it had to be Afghanistan and Iraq. They held their secret evidence, which was enough to convince my mom's side of the family, and began a campaign to "protect" America. I paid very close attention to this campaign. It has been the most contriversial years of our history. Back in the day we would put people in concentration camps, like after Perl Harbor. But today we made that action legal, until these laws are dismantled by the court system.
By protecting America they took away your freedom and built more prisons. Sure they built up the military, but they put them on your streets, in your airports, and began setting up checkpoints which are legal because of the PATRIOT act. Very patriotic, don't you think? Librarians know what's up. They read. But the rest of us read the news. And the news lies. CNN altered documents to make it appear like Iraq was not cooperating with investigations. And I'm sure a lot of other news was doctored in a similar fassion. But none of that matters.
What matters, the only thing that matters, is would the American government ever allow its citizens to die, or murder its own citizens, to increase support for war? Operation Northwood suggests it could and that it would if it had the right administration and a president willing to sign off on it.
Conspiracy? Oh, no, that just couldn't be logical, could it?
read-access or not the database should NOT be authoritative, ever.
We trust information given to us by computers and our government too much. If someone maliciously flagged and charged a citizen with just about any crime what happens? Because the secrete evidence is in a database somewhere the citizen will be thought of as guilty unitl they could prove their innocence. In the case of computer crime the crime could be contained in one of the tens of thousands of files in their computer and they could be detained while searching for the evidence for weeks, months or years. Or the crime could have been committed on the internet, making it virtually impossible to prove your innocence. Your word against your government's. Who in their right mind would take your word over that of the FBI? Me, but nobody listens to me.
Its freightening to think this way, but what if you're wrong?
People will do what is necessary. If the geek community only uses mozilla and pngs everyone else will be forced to conform if they wish to access geek websites. What we need is a community willing to use pngs and make them look as aweful as possible on IE to make it look like IE can't properly render the site, etc.
Corporations do the same thing, they use what they would rather people use instead of conforming to industry standards. There's no reason we shouldn't do the same.
If nobody watched CNN, CNN would have no authority or influence in our stock markets and influencing our decisions for war.
The first thing I would do if I were going to use violate someone's copyright and copy their source code directly into a GPL project is delete all the comments. Then I'd change all the variable names. And then I might restructure the remaining code a little and clean things up, etc.
I'm guessing it would not be trivial to find code like this unless they copied it line by line.
That's just it, though. Its not just funded by large corporations. Its funded by local businesses as well as subscribers. Everyone has to pay.
Its like the city bus. I think if corporations want to advertise on the side of the city bus then the bus rides should be free. The corporations should have to pay for the busses and maintence, etc. Or they can advertise elsewhere and use the bus for public education or whatever. But no people will let them have their cake and eat it too.
Don't you get it? The FCC doesn't want to anything. They want business to be profitable. That is why they exist along with all other government institutions.
Just look at that war we just won. Was it about WMD or oil? It was about economics, pure and simple. And us working class citizens have to watch this on national TV, listen to the same lies over and over again and then pay for every bit of it along the way.
Can someone remind me, what kind of punishment did the Enron execs get for their crimes?
Maybe we should all become politicians and CEOs if its the only way to make us all equal again.
This is typical. You screw me so I want you to get screwed just as bad. This doesn't solve anything and only makes our environment worse.
What we need to do is educate the managers, execs, etc. that there is more to life and work than money. That if we work together to take care of eachother that our environment will not be destroyed for the profits of some corporation striving for globalization.
What you are saying is since globalization is hurting you you want it to get so bad it hurts everyone. But what do any of us know. We're just spectators to one of the dumbest systems ever created.
I bet 200 years ago when it was created people thought it was brilliant. But looking back at history I think we could have come this far without slavery.
And just what is slavery? Working for no money. So instead of slavery today we are slowly moving the work to people who are willing to work for less and less. Think of it this way. There was a time when we needed everyone to work. But today we have computerized automation which means we only need a fraction of the work force to produce the same amount of product. So we lay off most of our employees. Now we recognize that some people are willing to work for less than other. And some countries don't have a minimum wage. So we hire people and pay them next to nothing, in effect creating slavery out of capitalism.
I don't know. I got everything I want so I guess it doesn't really matter whatever happens to all of you. But I think things could be better for all of us if they were different.
I'm a Sr. UNIX Admin with over 5 years of experience with Linux and some experience teaching this stuff.
I would work for free if we could all agree to do away with money (or that money has no value) so I could afford to grab food from the local supermarket and live in a small home or apartment close to my job. I don't require a lot to keep me happy. Mostly just musical equipment, computers and tools/books that help me do my job.
But I know hardly any of you would ever agree to give up your money so its a safe bet I'd never have to work for free. Too bad. I would have let you stay home and watch TV. I only care about getting the work done and automated once and forever. I find myself continually repeating the same tasks over and over again for money, in our current system, but I guess this is what makes more jobs.
I'm wondering why we'd build a shuttle so fragile that it cannot withstand striking a meteor on reentry. There are rocks floating around in space, y'know, and they can be a lot bigger and moving a lot faster than a piece of foam.
But if you want to do something right you gotta do it yourself. Can't trust Nasa to know how to build a space shuttle no matter how much money you give them. Same thing can be said for just about any commercial venture. If they don't have interest in designing something for the purpose of doing it then they'll fuck it up every time. And make excuses why a piece of foam blew it up.
I think what they are saying is that the trashcan was being used as something to protect their copyright. And by removing the item from their trashcan they broke their copy protection and thus the DMCA.
Same thing as copying the DVD you purchased. You're removing the movie from some invisible trashcan stored on the DVD.
Laws were meant to be broken.
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specially if the person became disgruntled AFTER getting the job.
There is a bit of an OSS community with OpenBeOS, etc. But its not the same as the GNU community. But comparing BSD to Linux that may or may not be a good thing.
I think you're right that most people in general don't know what it means. But I think they are more open minded to the possibility than most of us.
I mean try telling the average American that the don't know what love means and watch their reaction. I bet most would not admit it, even if it were true.
And I have no facts to back up my assumptions, just observation.
I reallized about a year ago that the human soul is what spawns innovation. It has nothing to do with money and a lot to do with our environment and level of happiness and well-being.
Every human has the ability to innovate but only if they live in the proper environment that encourages free thought, creativity, etc.
Yep I'm a liberal hippie jew who loves niggas and all humans reguardless of how they look or what they do. I hate their actions. I hate their ignorance. But I love them and I think that is all you need.
But I'm retarded, so go figure this stuff out on your own.
We were all created equal, especially the retards. Why? Does it matter if the person feeling happiness is a scientist or a retard? No. They are feeling and that is all that matters.
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What this could mean, should RedHat choose not to comply, is a revocation of their right to use GPL/GNU software, including the Linux kernel. This is a very serious matter.
They must be in fully compliance with the GPL or face the legal consquences of their actions, just like everyone else.
Perhaps we will see Linux distros move to a RHN type of distribution model to avoid creating CDs and ISOs that allow easy propogation of their commercial products. If you have to buy a subscription to RHN before your install disk will download the kernel and all the software from RedHat's site then it might still be in compliance with the GPL but create the sort of control structure they seem to be seeking.
Or our judicial system has a clear responsibility to strike it down. But how long will that take? Half my life?
I got better things to do than worry about laws. So I'm going to vote for the anarchist party from now on.
That's all it is. The enterprise kernel is a standard linux kernel with an alan cox patch set and bunch of other patches applied on top of that. It is most likely tested thoroughly on configurations scaling up to 16+ CPUs and 4+ GB of RAM. But it is no different that taking the source from kernel.org and patching it yourself.
RedHat 9, for example, just doesn't have the same type of QA or stability patches. It has a bunch of performance patches, etc. that may not have been tested thoroughly, IMO. But I haven't done much research into this.
I agree.
I treated 911 like an investigation. I would not accept that the Talebon, Bin Laden, etc. were behind it until I was shown proof, actual evidence and not just some circumstantial news broadcast with a bunch of Arabs from all over the middle eastern countries. But our administration knew it had to be Afghanistan and Iraq. They held their secret evidence, which was enough to convince my mom's side of the family, and began a campaign to "protect" America. I paid very close attention to this campaign. It has been the most contriversial years of our history. Back in the day we would put people in concentration camps, like after Perl Harbor. But today we made that action legal, until these laws are dismantled by the court system.
By protecting America they took away your freedom and built more prisons. Sure they built up the military, but they put them on your streets, in your airports, and began setting up checkpoints which are legal because of the PATRIOT act. Very patriotic, don't you think? Librarians know what's up. They read. But the rest of us read the news. And the news lies. CNN altered documents to make it appear like Iraq was not cooperating with investigations. And I'm sure a lot of other news was doctored in a similar fassion. But none of that matters.
What matters, the only thing that matters, is would the American government ever allow its citizens to die, or murder its own citizens, to increase support for war? Operation Northwood suggests it could and that it would if it had the right administration and a president willing to sign off on it.
Conspiracy? Oh, no, that just couldn't be logical, could it?
Look it up! I dare ya.
The "slashdot crowd" reads and seeks knowledge and truth. And if knowledge and truth are not part of the path to enlightenment I don't know what is.
I mean it could be argued that enlightenment is total understanding or something along those lines.
Um, the constitution will only protect you IF you can safely make your way into a courtroom.
This becomes difficult when the government drops you off in a concentration camp along the way.
read-access or not the database should NOT be authoritative, ever.
We trust information given to us by computers and our government too much. If someone maliciously flagged and charged a citizen with just about any crime what happens? Because the secrete evidence is in a database somewhere the citizen will be thought of as guilty unitl they could prove their innocence. In the case of computer crime the crime could be contained in one of the tens of thousands of files in their computer and they could be detained while searching for the evidence for weeks, months or years. Or the crime could have been committed on the internet, making it virtually impossible to prove your innocence. Your word against your government's. Who in their right mind would take your word over that of the FBI? Me, but nobody listens to me.
Its freightening to think this way, but what if you're wrong?
People will do what is necessary. If the geek community only uses mozilla and pngs everyone else will be forced to conform if they wish to access geek websites. What we need is a community willing to use pngs and make them look as aweful as possible on IE to make it look like IE can't properly render the site, etc.
Corporations do the same thing, they use what they would rather people use instead of conforming to industry standards. There's no reason we shouldn't do the same.
If nobody watched CNN, CNN would have no authority or influence in our stock markets and influencing our decisions for war.
The first thing I would do if I were going to use violate someone's copyright and copy their source code directly into a GPL project is delete all the comments. Then I'd change all the variable names. And then I might restructure the remaining code a little and clean things up, etc.
I'm guessing it would not be trivial to find code like this unless they copied it line by line.
That's just it, though. Its not just funded by large corporations. Its funded by local businesses as well as subscribers. Everyone has to pay.
Its like the city bus. I think if corporations want to advertise on the side of the city bus then the bus rides should be free. The corporations should have to pay for the busses and maintence, etc. Or they can advertise elsewhere and use the bus for public education or whatever. But no people will let them have their cake and eat it too.
Don't you get it? The FCC doesn't want to anything. They want business to be profitable. That is why they exist along with all other government institutions.
Just look at that war we just won. Was it about WMD or oil? It was about economics, pure and simple. And us working class citizens have to watch this on national TV, listen to the same lies over and over again and then pay for every bit of it along the way.
Can someone remind me, what kind of punishment did the Enron execs get for their crimes?
Maybe we should all become politicians and CEOs if its the only way to make us all equal again.
This is typical. You screw me so I want you to get screwed just as bad. This doesn't solve anything and only makes our environment worse.
What we need to do is educate the managers, execs, etc. that there is more to life and work than money. That if we work together to take care of eachother that our environment will not be destroyed for the profits of some corporation striving for globalization.
What you are saying is since globalization is hurting you you want it to get so bad it hurts everyone. But what do any of us know. We're just spectators to one of the dumbest systems ever created.
I bet 200 years ago when it was created people thought it was brilliant. But looking back at history I think we could have come this far without slavery.
And just what is slavery? Working for no money. So instead of slavery today we are slowly moving the work to people who are willing to work for less and less. Think of it this way. There was a time when we needed everyone to work. But today we have computerized automation which means we only need a fraction of the work force to produce the same amount of product. So we lay off most of our employees. Now we recognize that some people are willing to work for less than other. And some countries don't have a minimum wage. So we hire people and pay them next to nothing, in effect creating slavery out of capitalism.
I don't know. I got everything I want so I guess it doesn't really matter whatever happens to all of you. But I think things could be better for all of us if they were different.
I'm a Sr. UNIX Admin with over 5 years of experience with Linux and some experience teaching this stuff.
I would work for free if we could all agree to do away with money (or that money has no value) so I could afford to grab food from the local supermarket and live in a small home or apartment close to my job. I don't require a lot to keep me happy. Mostly just musical equipment, computers and tools/books that help me do my job.
But I know hardly any of you would ever agree to give up your money so its a safe bet I'd never have to work for free. Too bad. I would have let you stay home and watch TV. I only care about getting the work done and automated once and forever. I find myself continually repeating the same tasks over and over again for money, in our current system, but I guess this is what makes more jobs.
Then perhaps we should not be sending people into space? At least until we can develope the technology to do it safely.
We should definitely not be sending our teachers into space!
Something about this whole thing seems deliberate. Either that or we obviously have no concern for human life.
Nope, what happened then?
Why would anybody want to create a distributed firewall?
free-dumb warez
I'm wondering why we'd build a shuttle so fragile that it cannot withstand striking a meteor on reentry. There are rocks floating around in space, y'know, and they can be a lot bigger and moving a lot faster than a piece of foam.
But if you want to do something right you gotta do it yourself. Can't trust Nasa to know how to build a space shuttle no matter how much money you give them. Same thing can be said for just about any commercial venture. If they don't have interest in designing something for the purpose of doing it then they'll fuck it up every time. And make excuses why a piece of foam blew it up.
I think what they are saying is that the trashcan was being used as something to protect their copyright. And by removing the item from their trashcan they broke their copy protection and thus the DMCA.
Same thing as copying the DVD you purchased. You're removing the movie from some invisible trashcan stored on the DVD.
Laws were meant to be broken.
specially if the person became disgruntled AFTER getting the job.
There is a bit of an OSS community with OpenBeOS, etc. But its not the same as the GNU community. But comparing BSD to Linux that may or may not be a good thing.
Personally I believe in the GNU philosophy.
Just imagine where BeOS would be if they had released it under a GNU license.
I think you're right that most people in general don't know what it means. But I think they are more open minded to the possibility than most of us.
I mean try telling the average American that the don't know what love means and watch their reaction. I bet most would not admit it, even if it were true.
And I have no facts to back up my assumptions, just observation.
I reallized about a year ago that the human soul is what spawns innovation. It has nothing to do with money and a lot to do with our environment and level of happiness and well-being.
Every human has the ability to innovate but only if they live in the proper environment that encourages free thought, creativity, etc.
We encourage fear.
Holy shit!
:)
Divide and conquer takes on a whole new meaning for me.
Yep I'm a liberal hippie jew who loves niggas and all humans reguardless of how they look or what they do. I hate their actions. I hate their ignorance. But I love them and I think that is all you need.
But I'm retarded, so go figure this stuff out on your own.
We were all created equal, especially the retards. Why? Does it matter if the person feeling happiness is a scientist or a retard? No. They are feeling and that is all that matters.