*sigh* let's mod up anyone who's a google fanboi, that's the slashdot way!
Now, back in the real world, we see that Mr. Lee was an executive, with NDA trade secrets for one company. There's only ONE REASON google hired him. I hate to break it to you, but it's pretty much industry standard to have a no-compete clause in your exec's contracts. I gurantee google has the same thing for all of their execs so the whole "well google didn't know" is BS.
Microsoft doesn't have a right to mandate what work Lee can or can't do. But they CAN mandate what happens to their trade secrets, which is the whole point of non-compete's. I dunno if you're 16 and just don't know any better, are this naive, or just choose to pretend that it's not an egregarious breach of contract because it's "google!" either way, you're COMPLETELY wrong.
COMPLETE bs. We just nixed 3 people's "collections" that way in the last month. Doesn't matter if the collections agency purchased the debt or not. If it's paid directly to the original bill holder the collections agency has nothing to "go after". At worst the original bill holder can deny the payment, then it just requires some smooth talking and a bit of luck. I've yet to see someone have a collection stick on their record if they pay directly to the original bill holder... and last I checked we're still doing 50 loans a month+ out of the main office (yes, it's small business).
For the guy who's got collections on him... NEVER pay the collections agency. Doesn't matter how or why it's on there, especially if it's 12$. You pay the company that hired the collections agency directly. That way you can get it nixed from your credit report (I work in the industry, trust me).
If you have a "paid collections" on your credit report, while it's not AS BAD as an "open collections" you're still f-ed for 7 years until it comes off, and I believe it's like 20 points off your credit score, I'd have to double check that part.
why do they deserve it more? Well... a thing called company loyalty for one thing. Something that's been lost on this country for a long time. Where the company is looking out for it's employees and the employee's are looking out for the company. It comes from a day when CEO's weren't out to screw everyone to line their wallets with gold.
Let me know how much you enjoy it when some new tech firm sprouts up in india. Then the people of india bust their asses for that company for 30 years, and then it just up and takes all those jobs elsewhere with no LEGIT reason besides wanting to make more money. Yes, that's capitalism, apparently I'm the only one that sees the flaw in that logic.
"They just don't get it. The winners are the consumer who gets to pay lower prices for the products and services. The other winners are the stockholders of the corporation who get higher dividends and portfolio value. Now, we all are consumers of IBM and similar high tech goods and services--every time we use an ATM, an insurance company, a bank, a personal computer--we are benefiting from offshoring of high cost labor and parts."
Exactly how are consumers winners again? They get to pay lower prices for services, but since they have no jobs they can't afford even the lowered prices.... I guess that just doesnt' compute for me.
not true at all... sorry. They're "stealing" said person's unemployment checks. Therefore if the real person becomes unemployed their SOL because this person already used it up. Not to mention that, when they start grabbing credit cards and everything else, it ruins their credit scores which can take YEARS to fix.
You can't compare electronic data to something that has tangible benifits like and is a limited resource. The music industry isn't hurt when you copy an MP3 file, especially when you never would've purchased it in the first place. I could go off on how they actually benifit from "pirating" but I've gone on long enough to shoot down a troll.
if it's such a necessary product there should be an open-source solution. I thought that was the whole point of open source?
Go ahead and make me a list of the 20 other similar companies that M$ has bought out and shut down the linux side of things and I'll agree. Until then you're just spouting crap. Buying "ONE" company who has a prodcut that they actually need is hardly the plan you're outlining. Until M$ starts buying out companies that only supply linux software and shutting them down you should go ahead and remove the tinfoil hat and join the rest of us in the real world.
Please do share exactly what true innovation microsoft has stifled to date by buying out companies that make a product they need? That's essentially what you're claiming by saying that we'd still be in the stone age. Microsoft buying up technology it likes and GIVING it to consumers hardly stifles innovation, it furthers it by giving it a broader acceptance.
Seems to me all you wanted to do was shove in something about software patents/closed source/microsoft is evil to get some karma boost.
The real top500 is all top secret and would force you all to wear tinfoil hats constantly.
In all seriousness, I'd be SHOCKED if there weren't 500 more supercomputers in the world that were far faster than any of these that were secretly purchased by government organizations.
If any one american attempted to educate themselves on EVERYTHING that goes on in a given day within the government, it would be a full-time job... at best. And between you and me I doubt they'd be able to do it even as a full-time job unless they're some kind of sick freak who can envelope terabytes of data to their brains and retain it all daily. (doubtful).
The point of these "damn websites" telling us "what to do" is that you take a GROUP of people, all doing their part to police a little bit at a time. Then someone cries wolf, points out the reasoning behind it, and then we all can jump on the problem.
I am open to suggestions on how you think that an average person should stay "educated" on every bill, and every last word in those bills without a "FUCKING WEBSITE" instructing them on it's contents though. Please do enlighten us.
Am I the only one who thinks people should spend more time ousting these guys who are tacking on these "hidden agenda's" to larger bills?
I think if we knew who was doing it, then ran a quick check of all their recent travel and bank accounts there would be some senators in prison in a big hurry. I think every last word in every last bill should be marked with whichever senator proposed it so there's some "accountability". So then when someone like the broadcast flag sneaks in we know who to skin.
I fear that the only way our government will right itself is the way our forefathers predicted... revolution. This isn't tin-hat shit, this is a legitimate, sane person's concern. The downward spiral we are heading on can't end peacefully that's for sure.
please, if you haven't learned by now that being the superior O/S has nothing to do with market share, I guess you never will. As if there haven't been a dozen other os's over the years that neither linux or windows could hold a candle too, yet they've been long since relegated to obscurity.
that's because they're both just clever guises for the government to funnel money into side projects to make senators/congressmen/presidents/staff and relatives of all of the above rich.
I'm sure this will get marked troll (I'm sure it will be just from that sentence) regardless, I feel it must be said. WTF is the big deal about bundling? This is the only instance, and the only industry, that a corporation gets nailed for "bundling". It's called a "solution". When's the last time someone went after IBM for monopolistic practices because they provide entire corporations "solutions"?
Let's put this into perspective:
This is equivalent to Rockford-Fosgate suing toyota because toyota includes a stereo in every car they sell. It's unfair practices to the aftermarket stereo companies!!! Except, it's not even that, you know why? Because Rockford-Fosgate actually provides a better standard than toyota does. If all the developers bitching and moaning about MS bundling software spent a little more time developing, perhaps they could create a product that was so superior to what microsoft was offering, they could put a price on it and get it widely adopted. Fact of the matter is, you (the people whining) are just pissed that microsoft is doing such a good job at it. All I hear is how sh1tty M$ code is, and how buggy, etc. etc. I promise if it was THAT BAD, people would find another solution.
Why should MS have to sell it cheaper because they removed a piece of software they give you FREE? You can't buy WMP, microsoft doesn't sell it, so how can you put a price on it? By putting a price on it all you are doing is validating their bundling of the product because it just furthers the fact they're just attempting to give the consumer more value.
except it was a TRUE STORY. When you demand a reporters job when they reported a true story that you didn't want public, that's censorship. It's the government sending the exact same message: you report our dirt we come after you. Just because they didn't physically harm and/or imprison the reporter doesn't make it not censorshop.
it took this to shed light on that for you? No offense but I see THAT as sad. If you haven't figured it out now, the major corporations in America do everything in their power to limit our rights in our own country. Whatever it takes to make more money, that's always been their motto.
you mean like how they didn't censor that reporter who was subsequently fired for breaking that story on the quran in guantanimo bay, that was later verified by the FBI as true?
Next up, US government asks slashdot to censor the words "patriot act", "national ID", and "revolution". Please understand this is for your own protection, as our government has strictly the people's interersts in mind.
I'm wondering the same thing. Does this mean we get those fun filled 4 minute screen loads like the previous generations? Man I
On a more serious note though... why not just make removable drives ala laptops? Just make them basically hot swap (or at least hot-swap bays). That way you can even sell pre-packaged sony hard drives that have the hot-swap end piece already installed so you can call it "official" and all of us geeks can just buy our own drives... everyone wins.
"Of course, the PS3 can run Linux. If Linux can run, so can Lindows."
apparently Lindows is no longer a form of linux:/ Perhaps they need to give these guys a bit more training so that they don't sound like idiots in interviews.
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actually time warner offers 8Mbps in my area for 70$/month.
*sigh* let's mod up anyone who's a google fanboi, that's the slashdot way!
Now, back in the real world, we see that Mr. Lee was an executive, with NDA trade secrets for one company. There's only ONE REASON google hired him. I hate to break it to you, but it's pretty much industry standard to have a no-compete clause in your exec's contracts. I gurantee google has the same thing for all of their execs so the whole "well google didn't know" is BS.
Microsoft doesn't have a right to mandate what work Lee can or can't do. But they CAN mandate what happens to their trade secrets, which is the whole point of non-compete's. I dunno if you're 16 and just don't know any better, are this naive, or just choose to pretend that it's not an egregarious breach of contract because it's "google!" either way, you're COMPLETELY wrong.
COMPLETE bs. We just nixed 3 people's "collections" that way in the last month. Doesn't matter if the collections agency purchased the debt or not. If it's paid directly to the original bill holder the collections agency has nothing to "go after". At worst the original bill holder can deny the payment, then it just requires some smooth talking and a bit of luck. I've yet to see someone have a collection stick on their record if they pay directly to the original bill holder... and last I checked we're still doing 50 loans a month+ out of the main office (yes, it's small business).
For the guy who's got collections on him... NEVER pay the collections agency. Doesn't matter how or why it's on there, especially if it's 12$. You pay the company that hired the collections agency directly. That way you can get it nixed from your credit report (I work in the industry, trust me).
If you have a "paid collections" on your credit report, while it's not AS BAD as an "open collections" you're still f-ed for 7 years until it comes off, and I believe it's like 20 points off your credit score, I'd have to double check that part.
why do they deserve it more? Well... a thing called company loyalty for one thing. Something that's been lost on this country for a long time. Where the company is looking out for it's employees and the employee's are looking out for the company. It comes from a day when CEO's weren't out to screw everyone to line their wallets with gold.
Let me know how much you enjoy it when some new tech firm sprouts up in india. Then the people of india bust their asses for that company for 30 years, and then it just up and takes all those jobs elsewhere with no LEGIT reason besides wanting to make more money. Yes, that's capitalism, apparently I'm the only one that sees the flaw in that logic.
"They just don't get it. The winners are the consumer who gets to pay lower prices for the products and services. The other winners are the stockholders of the corporation who get higher dividends and portfolio value. Now, we all are consumers of IBM and similar high tech goods and services--every time we use an ATM, an insurance company, a bank, a personal computer--we are benefiting from offshoring of high cost labor and parts."
Exactly how are consumers winners again? They get to pay lower prices for services, but since they have no jobs they can't afford even the lowered prices.... I guess that just doesnt' compute for me.
not true at all... sorry. They're "stealing" said person's unemployment checks. Therefore if the real person becomes unemployed their SOL because this person already used it up. Not to mention that, when they start grabbing credit cards and everything else, it ruins their credit scores which can take YEARS to fix.
You can't compare electronic data to something that has tangible benifits like and is a limited resource. The music industry isn't hurt when you copy an MP3 file, especially when you never would've purchased it in the first place. I could go off on how they actually benifit from "pirating" but I've gone on long enough to shoot down a troll.
if it's such a necessary product there should be an open-source solution. I thought that was the whole point of open source?
Go ahead and make me a list of the 20 other similar companies that M$ has bought out and shut down the linux side of things and I'll agree. Until then you're just spouting crap. Buying "ONE" company who has a prodcut that they actually need is hardly the plan you're outlining. Until M$ starts buying out companies that only supply linux software and shutting them down you should go ahead and remove the tinfoil hat and join the rest of us in the real world.
Please do share exactly what true innovation microsoft has stifled to date by buying out companies that make a product they need? That's essentially what you're claiming by saying that we'd still be in the stone age. Microsoft buying up technology it likes and GIVING it to consumers hardly stifles innovation, it furthers it by giving it a broader acceptance.
Seems to me all you wanted to do was shove in something about software patents/closed source/microsoft is evil to get some karma boost.
The real top500 is all top secret and would force you all to wear tinfoil hats constantly.
In all seriousness, I'd be SHOCKED if there weren't 500 more supercomputers in the world that were far faster than any of these that were secretly purchased by government organizations.
If any one american attempted to educate themselves on EVERYTHING that goes on in a given day within the government, it would be a full-time job... at best. And between you and me I doubt they'd be able to do it even as a full-time job unless they're some kind of sick freak who can envelope terabytes of data to their brains and retain it all daily. (doubtful).
The point of these "damn websites" telling us "what to do" is that you take a GROUP of people, all doing their part to police a little bit at a time. Then someone cries wolf, points out the reasoning behind it, and then we all can jump on the problem.
I am open to suggestions on how you think that an average person should stay "educated" on every bill, and every last word in those bills without a "FUCKING WEBSITE" instructing them on it's contents though. Please do enlighten us.
Am I the only one who thinks people should spend more time ousting these guys who are tacking on these "hidden agenda's" to larger bills?
I think if we knew who was doing it, then ran a quick check of all their recent travel and bank accounts there would be some senators in prison in a big hurry. I think every last word in every last bill should be marked with whichever senator proposed it so there's some "accountability". So then when someone like the broadcast flag sneaks in we know who to skin.
I fear that the only way our government will right itself is the way our forefathers predicted... revolution. This isn't tin-hat shit, this is a legitimate, sane person's concern. The downward spiral we are heading on can't end peacefully that's for sure.
please, if you haven't learned by now that being the superior O/S has nothing to do with market share, I guess you never will. As if there haven't been a dozen other os's over the years that neither linux or windows could hold a candle too, yet they've been long since relegated to obscurity.
that's because they're both just clever guises for the government to funnel money into side projects to make senators/congressmen/presidents/staff and relatives of all of the above rich.
In further news today, the US has made a press release:
"China you have our blessing, invade those bastards, it's not like the surrender queens are going to defend them."
I'm sure this will get marked troll (I'm sure it will be just from that sentence) regardless, I feel it must be said. WTF is the big deal about bundling? This is the only instance, and the only industry, that a corporation gets nailed for "bundling". It's called a "solution". When's the last time someone went after IBM for monopolistic practices because they provide entire corporations "solutions"?
Let's put this into perspective:
This is equivalent to Rockford-Fosgate suing toyota because toyota includes a stereo in every car they sell. It's unfair practices to the aftermarket stereo companies!!! Except, it's not even that, you know why? Because Rockford-Fosgate actually provides a better standard than toyota does. If all the developers bitching and moaning about MS bundling software spent a little more time developing, perhaps they could create a product that was so superior to what microsoft was offering, they could put a price on it and get it widely adopted. Fact of the matter is, you (the people whining) are just pissed that microsoft is doing such a good job at it. All I hear is how sh1tty M$ code is, and how buggy, etc. etc. I promise if it was THAT BAD, people would find another solution.
Why should MS have to sell it cheaper because they removed a piece of software they give you FREE? You can't buy WMP, microsoft doesn't sell it, so how can you put a price on it? By putting a price on it all you are doing is validating their bundling of the product because it just furthers the fact they're just attempting to give the consumer more value.
thank you for reminding us of all that is wrong with the linux community.
No, Saddam has one buried in the iraqi deserts, it's guarding his WMD's.
except it was a TRUE STORY. When you demand a reporters job when they reported a true story that you didn't want public, that's censorship. It's the government sending the exact same message: you report our dirt we come after you. Just because they didn't physically harm and/or imprison the reporter doesn't make it not censorshop.
it took this to shed light on that for you? No offense but I see THAT as sad. If you haven't figured it out now, the major corporations in America do everything in their power to limit our rights in our own country. Whatever it takes to make more money, that's always been their motto.
you mean like how they didn't censor that reporter who was subsequently fired for breaking that story on the quran in guantanimo bay, that was later verified by the FBI as true?
Next up, US government asks slashdot to censor the words "patriot act", "national ID", and "revolution". Please understand this is for your own protection, as our government has strictly the people's interersts in mind.
I'm wondering the same thing. Does this mean we get those fun filled 4 minute screen loads like the previous generations? Man I
On a more serious note though... why not just make removable drives ala laptops? Just make them basically hot swap (or at least hot-swap bays). That way you can even sell pre-packaged sony hard drives that have the hot-swap end piece already installed so you can call it "official" and all of us geeks can just buy our own drives... everyone wins.
"Of course, the PS3 can run Linux. If Linux can run, so can Lindows."
:/ Perhaps they need to give these guys a bit more training so that they don't sound like idiots in interviews.
apparently Lindows is no longer a form of linux