I originally posted that article, and I will NEVER buy from Dell again. I also own a small corporation. It is so clear that Dell is violating the antitrust settlement with Microsoft here, it's not even funny. I buy all my gear from TigerDirect.ca now, and NONE of it is Dell. I just loved the Indian call center by the way, nice touch not being able to understand a god darned word of what the people supporting you are saying.
Three links for you Dell, consider these the 3 ghosts of Christmas from a Christmas Carol
Server Error in '/' Application. The resource cannot be found.
I can't even log into my dell account because of Windows.
2. http://www.linuxworldcanada.com/ I asked Dell on camera at Linux world in Toronto 3 years ago why they wouldn't preload linux on inspirons, and off camera they told me about the deal with Microsoft. LITERALLY. I turned the dv cam back on shortly after and chronicled it. I will publicly republish this film in a short time.
Offering rebates to AMERICAN companies to keep competitors off of affordable retail hardware is not within the bounds of the DOJ settlement, and Dell KNOWS it.
Hey Dell, DUDE, I'm getting apache!
https://membership2.dell.com/macanada/signin.aspx? s=gen&l=en&c=ca&cs=cadhs1
Server Error in '/' Application.
The resource cannot be found.
Yes, I am a customer, wait no, I was a customer. I just tried logging into my Dell.ca account to file an official complaint but the frail and fragile IIS and Windows server couldn't take the ASCII HTTP POST beating that the login button seemed to present.
Who the hell runs critical applications on Windows?
Hi, I had posted the article on the site. The reason they took it down is because I openly suggested that the reason that they did not want to preload free Linux distributions like Ubuntu, FC, and openSuSE on inspirons and other affordable models was because they have a non-disclosed OEM agreement with Steve Ballmer. I named Steve Ballmer by name, and I mentioned that such an agreement violates the antitrust settlement Microsoft agreed to with the US Department of Justice.
They clearly got upset and pulled it. The negative article link probably didn't help.
Dell needs to wake up or get out of the computer business. I'll say it here again, Supply does NOT fuel demand. And they will lose market share regardless of what OEM license discount Ballmer gives them to opt out of Linux on retail systems, because their own customers don't want that anymore.
Remember this 90% discount to Munich, but they still refused. Well, don't ask yourself why Dell won't load Ubuntu, it's clear they took it, and will continue to take it.
The answer is simple, just don't buy a Dell. Tigerdirect.com laptops are much nicer, cheaper, and you can put whatever you want on them.
BitBloating the pixels to individual 1X1 TD tags will hardly make a difference. All that is needed is to reconstruct the bitmap then use OCR on it as usual.
Additionally, I predict myspace, facebook and tagworld to be viewed as the "Vanilla Ice" of the internet in a couple short years.
I can't believe I was actually a member type thing. Web trends are hit and miss, come and go. Remember when EVERYBODY wanted to have a Micheal Jackson type glove, and EVERYONE wanted a red fake leather jacket with TONS of zippers on it?
Buy, buy, buy, no wait, wait, sell, sell, sell....
Creating an eco-system in this context will not work, because even webservices have severe limitations in what you can do with them. They are "read-only" or have very severe constraints for any "write".
Windows is an operating system as is Linux and many games. If you really hurt your own system, it stops there. If you hurt a server eco-system with an application it will hurt everyone, as they have clearly already shown.
This limits what they can offer people in the context of an eco-system to some very lame superficial stuff. So I don't feel it's going to work to any greater degree than what they've already done.
Social networking is on the decline, and their alexa.com curve is heading on the downslope, as the next school year rings in, a lot of people are going to find a new site to hang out at that is new and hip.
As for social networking creators making an eco-system, we decided on a real OS ecosystem and are developing a linux distro by the name of deity, with new widgets and other stuff.
Myspace is built on a deck of cards called hype, and trend, and when that deck blows out from underneath them, when kids no longer think social networking in that way is cool anymore, watch out, because they and the other social networks will fall. If you went into this as a trend that's one thing, going in as an all out investment where this type of software was the base was unwise.
Google is so successful because they are primarily a portal, you set google or start.com to your home page. You don't set myspace or bebo. Social networking does not have the model to stay on top for any length of time, be it friendster, myspace, bebo or whatever. they are hype and trend driven marketing models, and that can never last. You can't "be cool" or "in" forever.
"Intermix Management and other Insiders sold approximately $25 million of Intermix stock in full knowledge that the New York State Attorney General (NY-AG), Eliot Spitzer, would soon file a lawsuit against the company for certain adware promotion activity. Management and Insiders sold vast quantities of stock before disclosing this critical information appropriately to the rest of the marketplace. "
"Actually, MySpace had simply shut down and become ResponseBase-- as evidenced by the "Freebies" newsletter above. ResponseBase also used a list of 8 million e-mail addresses purchased from Xdrive for their newsletters. In 2002, ResponseBase was booted from their ISP as an illicit spam organization-- with Tom Anderson himself listed as their billing contact. And later still, ResponseBase would be renamed to MySpace."
"Intermix Media itself has a tangled history. In 2004, Intermix (then operating as eUniverse) was named as a spammer organization on USENET. It purchased ResponseBase, shut down its operations, and reformed it as MySpace. On April 28, 2005, Intermix was sued by the State of New York for installing malicious spyware over the Internet. According to their press release:"
Myspace isn't on the way up, it's on the way down. Check alexa.com The bell curve is heading towards the downslope.
He knows it. Vidilife.com seems to be on the uprise though. Anything the former Intermix/eUniverse guy Brad Greenspan touches seems to turn to gold, whether it's crap or not.
All the other social networking sites are on the way down and Greenspan's is on the way up. I run sitespaces.net and sell social networking software, so I'm pretty much on top of these types of things.
Greenspan has some secret and it has nothing to do with popularity.
Microsoft executives have recently said they are committed to a greater outreach to the open source community and to make Windows software interoperable with that licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL). Is that a priority of yours and something you plan to move further forward?
I have been one of the principle people architecting the way we are going to step up to this bigger question around interoperability, and that will certainly be a focus of mine going forward, along with Bob Muglia.
Download that PDF and search the term "Mundie" You'll quickly find this on page 6
The subject of Stallman's speech is the history and future of the free software movement. The location is significant. Less than a month before, Microsoft senior vice president
-- Craig Mundie appeared at the nearby NYU Stern School of Business, delivering a speech blasting the General Public License, or GPL, --
a legal device originally conceived by Stallman 16 years before. Built to counteract the growing wave of software secrecy overtaking the computer industry-a wave first noticed by Stallman during his 1980 troubles with the Xerox laser printer-the GPL has evolved into a central tool of the free software community. In simplest terms, the GPL locks software programs into a form of communal ownership-what today's legal scholars now call the "digital commons"-through the legal weight of copyright. Once locked, programs remain unremovable. Derivative versions must carry the same copyright protection-even derivative versions that bear only a small snippet of the original source code. -- For this reason, some within the software industry have taken to calling the GPL a "viral" license, because it spreads itself to every software program it touches.1 --
Slashdot says Microsoft's Mundie to Continue OSS Outreach
When you read about what he said in his speeches, do you really think this guy is going to carry on much of anything for FOSS or OSS integration?
It's all about talk, and show, and complacency for them. There is no substance to it.
Well, that's the startling difference between theory and practice. It's also the reason Newscorp bought intermix/eUniverse with little depth of analysis.
You can target ads as well as can be as google does. But this audience isn't there because of an interest in X topic. They are there to chat with friends and read bulletins.
Think of how effective an ad campaign on classmates.com would be?
People seem to forget that social networking and friend network content isn't wholey journalistic in nature. People are not going there to be entertained in the sense that they may check something out. They log in, they check to see if they have bulletins or mail, then they log out.
Think about how effective adverts would be in the middle of a telephone conversation you have with a friend on your phone?
Effective or annoying? I have stats and they say annoying. Scale that and you can come to a conclusion of why larger sites can not monetize. The entire value behind social bookmarking and networking is mostly artificial.
Now move on to robots. There are TONS of social networking robots people can purchase for windows. They are cheap, $29. When you view a social network on alexa, you'll see little unique users and TONS of page views. A lot of these are robots people buy to surf these sites.
Robots can not buy things and usually do not bother to click on ads. I would venture to say that most of the big social network site's traffic is actually generated from non-humans. People uses these apps to promote whatever they happen to be peddling.
So there are many troubling factors that make this an unattractive market for any search engine. Google has orkut and affiliates with many sites like sitespaces.net, ect.... They know, they have the stats. They won't make a bad call by spending a fortune on this. Yahoo, and MSN... Yahoo knows what the stats are, if they were going to make an official offering. They would have done it by now. Myspace has been using their search for years now.
MSN. They are the most superficial and glam driven. Their windows tech is behind the error proned servers. They're ex-Exec is now the cheif security officer of the company. This whole "Bid for search" is a farce. It will be MSN, and they will PAY NOTHING, except for a token gesture to make it look like this publicity stunt had value.
I run sitespaces.net for my company. We had switched from adbright to google in March. This was a screenshot from a few weeks ago. %0.03 CTR.
Social networks are super for attracting visitors and bolstering your other services or products. They're not so great for generating actual revenue from advertisments.
I don't think it's any different with the larger sites. If the big search engines are smart, they will know this. At least Yahoo can check the stats on the site before committing. They know for sure if it was profitable or not. In reality a big search engine would most likely ask them to pay for results ala alexa.com and google web services rather than pay for the privilage.
Social networking is full of people who simply ignore adverts completely, more than any other type of website.
In a pragmatic sense, this doesn't change anything. He hasn't worked on production software for 15 years. If it is a moral destroyer for vista, then so be it. XGL and Linux is great and nobody needs windows anymore anyway.
Maybe he finally realized it and decided to fold. He is a good poker player right?
Write a book about your experiences there, and sell the movie rights. Don't leave out the part about the chair throwing and Lukovsky's testimony. Your true story would make Anti-Trust look like a remake of a 70's disco film. They must have had him sign a powerful NDA, but I'm sure Robert can find a way around that.
An interesting point not yet raised is that when you compile your code to such a weak instruction set as an intermediate limited opcode set like IL, you leave your code wide open to being decompiled, not just disassembled with something like the mamoth i686 or x86_64 opcode sets.
That means that compiling your code to these instruction sets inheritly makes them open source, unless you believe in the obfuscation fairy. And the obfuscation fairy doesn't fare too well in a debugger.
Is hacking disassembled code that much harder? No.
Is copying a huge chunk out of it and putting it in another program as useful when you only have the binary interface? No way. A developer looking to do that will take the decompiled sources over disassebled opcodes any day of the week.
He posted about this almost a year ago. I've been using monodevelop on FC and SuSE for quite some time. It's gotten alot more stable. You all can compile java to mono IL through IVKM.
"The "write once run anywhere" of Java is becoming more attractive all the time."
That's nice in theory, and maybe with gnome-java, but regular java swing ui looks like a trucker's behind, and the file dialogs won't even decend when you click on the folder. You have to sit there and click 4 or 5 times before the mouse click interupt actually reacts to the event in the program.
Java is great for shell apps, but not for ui. Gnome-java that eclipse uses is a step in the right direction.
Most.NET apps will most likely need to be ported from native windows to linux and unix based mono apps. The 100% completion of the above package from Novell should go a long way towards easing that code portage by developers wishing to port their.NET application to mono.
I noticed when I switched from FC3 to FC4 that dag didn't have mono anymore, and so I was forced to configure nrpms.net in my yum config.
It was really getting to be a pain to search around and FIND the "new" mono repo for Fedora.
I have 3 FC distros installed and 2 SuSE10 and I was just about ready to switch to SuSE for good on FC5 if stuff like mono and yumex didn't make it into the distro. I can only hope they include yumex this time around.
At any rate, I wrote about my new mono book in a recent blog entry with a nice pic of my mandrake stuffed penguin.
"Any respectable/. user should have most of this suite installed already"
I whole heartedly agree. Any respectable slashdot user probably doesn't use Macroshloft winblowz. We already have all that stuff anyway with beagle, clamav, ect... et al.
Slashdot Mirror
I originally posted that article, and I will NEVER buy from Dell again. I also own a small corporation. It is so clear that Dell is violating the antitrust settlement with Microsoft here, it's not even funny. I buy all my gear from TigerDirect.ca now, and NONE of it is Dell. I just loved the Indian call center by the way, nice touch not being able to understand a god darned word of what the people supporting you are saying.
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Three links for you Dell, consider these the 3 ghosts of Christmas from a Christmas Carol
1.
https://membership2.dell.com/macanada/signin.aspx
Server Error in '/' Application.
The resource cannot be found.
I can't even log into my dell account because of Windows.
2.
http://www.linuxworldcanada.com/
I asked Dell on camera at Linux world in Toronto 3 years ago why they wouldn't preload linux on inspirons, and off camera they told me about the deal with Microsoft. LITERALLY. I turned the dv cam back on shortly after and chronicled it. I will publicly republish this film in a short time.
3.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/05/26/18552
Offering rebates to AMERICAN companies to keep competitors off of affordable retail hardware is not within the bounds of the DOJ settlement, and Dell KNOWS it.
This is in clear violation of a settlement your partners took with the US DOJ.
http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/f9400/9495.htm
Dell can pound dirt and cry for all I care. They deserve it for helping Microsoft to destroy our freedom of choice and diverse American tech.
The Ghost of Xmas future is here Dell, do you want to right some wrongs, or do you want to make love to Steve Ballmer? You decide.
Hey Dell, DUDE, I'm getting apache! https://membership2.dell.com/macanada/signin.aspx? s=gen&l=en&c=ca&cs=cadhs1
Server Error in '/' Application.
The resource cannot be found.
Yes, I am a customer, wait no, I was a customer. I just tried logging into my Dell.ca account to file an official complaint but the frail and fragile IIS and Windows server couldn't take the ASCII HTTP POST beating that the login button seemed to present.
Who the hell runs critical applications on Windows?
Hi, I had posted the article on the site. The reason they took it down is because I openly suggested that the reason that they did not want to preload free Linux distributions like Ubuntu, FC, and openSuSE on inspirons and other affordable models was because they have a non-disclosed OEM agreement with Steve Ballmer. I named Steve Ballmer by name, and I mentioned that such an agreement violates the antitrust settlement Microsoft agreed to with the US Department of Justice.
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They clearly got upset and pulled it. The negative article link probably didn't help.
Dell needs to wake up or get out of the computer business. I'll say it here again, Supply does NOT fuel demand.
And they will lose market share regardless of what OEM license discount Ballmer gives them to opt out of Linux on retail systems, because their own customers don't want that anymore.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=9
Remember this 90% discount to Munich, but they still refused.
Well, don't ask yourself why Dell won't load Ubuntu, it's clear they took it, and will continue to take it.
The answer is simple, just don't buy a Dell. Tigerdirect.com laptops are much nicer, cheaper, and you can put whatever you want on them.
They should make an enterprise version of mediawiki and sell it just like MySQL.org did with their GPL product.
When interviewed they refused to say which patents Linux infringes. This is pure fraud by Microsoft. Burn them alive.
BitBloating the pixels to individual 1X1 TD tags will hardly make a difference. All that is needed is to reconstruct the bitmap then use OCR on it as usual.
What a sad solution.
Additionally, I predict myspace, facebook and tagworld to be viewed as the "Vanilla Ice" of the internet in a couple short years.
I can't believe I was actually a member type thing. Web trends are hit and miss, come and go. Remember when EVERYBODY wanted to have a Micheal Jackson type glove, and EVERYONE wanted a red fake leather jacket with TONS of zippers on it?
Buy, buy, buy, no wait, wait, sell, sell, sell....
Chris - Beer here from sitespaces.net
Creating an eco-system in this context will not work, because even webservices have severe limitations in what you can do with them.
They are "read-only" or have very severe constraints for any "write".
Windows is an operating system as is Linux and many games. If you really hurt your own system, it stops there. If you hurt a server eco-system with an application it will hurt everyone, as they have clearly already shown.
This limits what they can offer people in the context of an eco-system to some very lame superficial stuff. So I don't feel it's going to work to any greater degree than what they've already done.
Social networking is on the decline, and their alexa.com curve is heading on the downslope, as the next school year rings in, a lot of people are going to find a new site to hang out at that is new and hip.
As for social networking creators making an eco-system, we decided on a real OS ecosystem and are developing a linux distro by the name of deity, with new widgets and other stuff.
Myspace is built on a deck of cards called hype, and trend, and when that deck blows out from underneath them, when kids no longer think social networking in that way is cool anymore, watch out, because they and the other social networks will fall. If you went into this as a trend that's one thing, going in as an all out investment where this type of software was the base was unwise.
Google is so successful because they are primarily a portal, you set google or start.com to your home page. You don't set myspace or bebo.
Social networking does not have the model to stay on top for any length of time, be it friendster, myspace, bebo or whatever. they are hype and trend driven marketing models, and that can never last. You can't "be cool" or "in" forever.
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http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=P
It sure sounds alot like it's describing much of what myspace is, and myspace is a "deleware company" in the US and subject to US laws.
As for their kind fondness of spyware, see the citations below for more info.
Birds of a feather they say.
http://www.intermixedup.com/
"Intermix Management and other Insiders sold approximately $25 million of Intermix stock in full knowledge that the New York State Attorney General (NY-AG), Eliot Spitzer, would soon file a lawsuit against the company for
certain adware promotion activity. Management and Insiders sold vast quantities of stock before disclosing this critical information appropriately to the rest of the marketplace. "
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Bloggers_investigate_
"Actually, MySpace had simply shut down and become ResponseBase-- as evidenced by the "Freebies" newsletter above. ResponseBase also used a list of 8 million e-mail addresses purchased from Xdrive for their newsletters. In 2002, ResponseBase was booted from their ISP as an illicit spam organization-- with Tom Anderson himself listed as their billing contact. And later still, ResponseBase would be renamed to MySpace."
"Intermix Media itself has a tangled history. In 2004, Intermix (then operating as eUniverse) was named as a spammer organization on USENET. It purchased ResponseBase, shut down its operations, and reformed it as MySpace. On April 28, 2005, Intermix was sued by the State of New York for installing malicious spyware over the Internet. According to their press release:"
Myspace isn't on the way up, it's on the way down. Check alexa.com
The bell curve is heading towards the downslope.
He knows it. Vidilife.com seems to be on the uprise though. Anything the former Intermix/eUniverse guy Brad Greenspan touches seems to turn to gold, whether it's crap or not.
All the other social networking sites are on the way down and Greenspan's is on the way up. I run sitespaces.net and sell social networking software, so I'm pretty much on top of these types of things.
Greenspan has some secret and it has nothing to do with popularity.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1978009,00.as p
n freedom.pdf
Microsoft executives have recently said they are committed to a greater outreach to the open source community and to make Windows software interoperable with that licensed under the GNU General Public License (GPL). Is that a priority of yours and something you plan to move further forward?
I have been one of the principle people architecting the way we are going to step up to this bigger question around interoperability, and that will certainly be a focus of mine going forward, along with Bob Muglia.
You can download a copy of "Free as in Freedom" from here. I believe it's published under the FDLicense
http://www.grimstveit.no/jakob/files/text/freeasi
Download that PDF and search the term "Mundie"
You'll quickly find this on page 6
The subject of Stallman's speech is the history and future of the free software movement. The location is significant. Less than a month before, Microsoft senior vice president
--
Craig Mundie appeared at the nearby NYU Stern School of Business, delivering a speech blasting the General Public License, or GPL,
--
a legal device originally conceived by Stallman 16 years before. Built to counteract the growing wave of software secrecy overtaking the computer industry-a wave first noticed by Stallman during his 1980 troubles with the Xerox laser printer-the GPL has evolved into a central tool of the free software community. In simplest terms, the GPL locks software programs into a form of communal ownership-what today's legal scholars now call the "digital commons"-through the legal weight of copyright. Once locked, programs remain unremovable. Derivative versions must carry the same copyright protection-even derivative versions that bear only a small snippet of the original source code.
--
For this reason, some within the software industry have taken to calling the GPL a "viral" license, because it spreads itself to every software program it touches.1
--
Slashdot says
Microsoft's Mundie to Continue OSS Outreach
When you read about what he said in his speeches, do you really think this guy is going to carry on much of anything for FOSS or OSS integration?
It's all about talk, and show, and complacency for them. There is no substance to it.
Well, that's the startling difference between theory and practice. It's also the reason Newscorp bought intermix/eUniverse with little depth of analysis.
You can target ads as well as can be as google does. But this audience isn't there because of an interest in X topic. They are there to chat with friends and read bulletins.
Think of how effective an ad campaign on classmates.com would be?
People seem to forget that social networking and friend network content isn't wholey journalistic in nature. People are not going there to be entertained in the sense that they may check something out. They log in, they check to see if they have bulletins or mail, then they log out.
Think about how effective adverts would be in the middle of a telephone conversation you have with a friend on your phone?
Effective or annoying? I have stats and they say annoying. Scale that and you can come to a conclusion of why larger sites can not monetize.
The entire value behind social bookmarking and networking is mostly artificial.
Now move on to robots. There are TONS of social networking robots people can purchase for windows. They are cheap, $29. When you view a social network on alexa, you'll see little unique users and TONS of page views. A lot of these are robots people buy to surf these sites.
Robots can not buy things and usually do not bother to click on ads. I would venture to say that most of the big social network site's traffic is actually generated from non-humans. People uses these apps to promote whatever they happen to be peddling.
So there are many troubling factors that make this an unattractive market for any search engine. Google has orkut and affiliates with many sites like sitespaces.net, ect.... They know, they have the stats. They won't make a bad call by spending a fortune on this. Yahoo, and MSN...
Yahoo knows what the stats are, if they were going to make an official offering. They would have done it by now. Myspace has been using their search for years now.
MSN. They are the most superficial and glam driven. Their windows tech is behind the error proned servers. They're ex-Exec is now the cheif security officer of the company. This whole "Bid for search" is a farce. It will be MSN, and they will PAY NOTHING, except for a token gesture to make it look like this publicity stunt had value.
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http://www.sitespaces.net/loadimage.ssp?galleryla
http://www.sitespaces.net/index.php?viewpic&picid4 71.jpg
I run sitespaces.net for my company. We had switched from adbright to google in March. This was a screenshot from a few weeks ago. %0.03 CTR.
Social networks are super for attracting visitors and bolstering your other services or products. They're not so great for generating actual revenue from advertisments.
I don't think it's any different with the larger sites. If the big search engines are smart, they will know this.
At least Yahoo can check the stats on the site before committing. They know for sure if it was profitable or not.
In reality a big search engine would most likely ask them to pay for results ala alexa.com and google web services rather than pay for the privilage.
Social networking is full of people who simply ignore adverts completely, more than any other type of website.
In a pragmatic sense, this doesn't change anything. He hasn't worked on production software for 15 years.
If it is a moral destroyer for vista, then so be it. XGL and Linux is great and nobody needs windows anymore anyway.
Maybe he finally realized it and decided to fold. He is a good poker player right?
Robert, if you can see this,
Write a book about your experiences there, and sell the movie rights. Don't leave out the part about the chair throwing and Lukovsky's testimony.
Your true story would make Anti-Trust look like a remake of a 70's disco film.
They must have had him sign a powerful NDA, but I'm sure Robert can find a way around that.
That's 16mb concurrent for each of the 8 spu's right?
How much memory are the CPU and the spu's going to be exchanging?
Most of the rendering will be done by the graphics card right?
I agree. I've yet to remember a critical fedora patch for a not yet released Redhat FC distribution.
Yeah, use journalised ext FS instead. Why not?
It works on my machines.
An interesting point not yet raised is that when you compile your code to such a weak instruction set as an intermediate limited opcode set like IL, you leave your code wide open to being decompiled, not just disassembled with something like the mamoth i686 or x86_64 opcode sets.
That means that compiling your code to these instruction sets inheritly makes them open source, unless you believe in the obfuscation fairy. And the obfuscation fairy doesn't fare too well in a debugger.
Is hacking disassembled code that much harder? No.
Is copying a huge chunk out of it and putting it in another program as useful when you only have the binary interface?
No way. A developer looking to do that will take the decompiled sources over disassebled opcodes any day of the week.
Interesting stuff to think about.
more info about java integration
http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2005/May-17.html
Am I the only person who reads Miguel's blog?
http://www.ikvm.net/
He posted about this almost a year ago. I've been using monodevelop on FC and SuSE for quite some time. It's gotten alot more stable. You all can compile java to mono IL through IVKM.
"The "write once run anywhere" of Java is becoming more attractive all the time."
That's nice in theory, and maybe with gnome-java, but regular java swing ui looks like a trucker's behind, and the file dialogs won't even decend when you click on the folder. You have to sit there and click 4 or 5 times before the mouse click interupt actually reacts to the event in the program.
Java is great for shell apps, but not for ui. Gnome-java that eclipse uses is a step in the right direction.
http://www.mono-project.com/WinForms
.NET apps will most likely need to be ported from native windows to linux and unix based mono apps. .NET application to mono.
Most
The 100% completion of the above package from Novell should go a long way towards easing that code portage by developers wishing to port their
I noticed when I switched from FC3 to FC4 that dag didn't have mono anymore, and so I was forced to configure nrpms.net in my yum config.
It was really getting to be a pain to search around and FIND the "new" mono repo for Fedora.
I have 3 FC distros installed and 2 SuSE10 and I was just about ready to switch to SuSE for good on FC5 if stuff like mono and yumex didn't make it into the distro. I can only hope they include yumex this time around.
At any rate, I wrote about my new mono book in a recent blog entry with a nice pic of my mandrake stuffed penguin.
http://www.sitespaces.net/blog.php?viewblog&2322
"Any respectable /. user should have most of this suite installed already"
I whole heartedly agree. Any respectable slashdot user probably doesn't use Macroshloft winblowz.
We already have all that stuff anyway with beagle, clamav, ect... et al.
More useless crap for a saturated OS.