I've never seen Firefly and I probably wouldn't be that interested in it, but I'd rather encourage people to fight for what they want, than sit back and spout pointless cynicism.
Bffft, but that takes effort and doesn't provide me with instant gratification or a false sense of superiority. What fun is that?
I wasn't as clear on that as I should have been. I meant to say that lazy people get out of doing stuff that needs to be done becuase they don't feel like doing it. "Important work" meant stuff that may suck, but still needs to be done.
The test of whether people love what they do is whether they'd do it even if they weren't paid for it
Sorry, that's an incorrect statement, and I wish it would die. It's simplistic and not based in reality and just gives lazy people and excuse to dodge doing important work. I'm sick of hearing it.
Look at the flip side, if you find something you love doing, will you still love it if you get paid to do it?
More specifically, would you still love it if you had deadlines to deal with?
People who love their jobs either thrive on the pressure, or have 'easy' jobs that they don't have to take home with them. For example, my mom loves her job because it's low stress, and when she goes home, she doesn't have to worry about work at all. I love my job because I'm an integral part of my company. We both have hobbies we do outside of work that neither of us could ever make a living doing (or would want to!). Sure, in bizzarro world, someone would pay me to sit on my ass and watch weird movies all day, but I would quickly hate it because the other facets of my personality would get ignored. Likewise, if I did my day job for free, I would not get anything done because the pressure would be gone.
You question was about stopping support, however your scenario covered adding support.
Anyway, support depends on what the company is about. If the website provides an online service, then you would like to support a resonable range of technologies. However, if it's the site of a developmeny house that uses the 'latest technology', using table formatting instead of CSS just to support ancient browsers may not look too good.
If it's just an informational website, then pick the top 3 browsers for each of the platforms you care about and support the versions that were released in the last 3 years.
Picture another scenario.
Companies such as Microsoft refuse to help China. China's government still sees the need for the technology, so they create a government branch to build the technology they need. Obviously, this branch would gravitate towards the use of free Open Source software, since the vendors won't support them. This new branch builds China's own IT infrastructure, and in doing so, has a much deeper knowledge of the technology. Now the Chinese government has full control, and the knowledge to go with it.
I think it's better to have vendors holding the government's hand and selling them their insecure software. The experts in the country will be the individuals who use free software to find holes and workarounds to get the information and services they need.
Wow, that is a great website.
Simple, clean, intuitive, easy to find stuff, and it actually looks nice
A far cry from the suckass website of that imposter Jakob Nielsen
I know useability and UI design aren't exactly the same thing (a great UI might not be easily useable by the disabled), but seriously, a website need not use the same layout and color scheme as those crazy mofo websites about alien abduction and the apocalypse
Are we talking about globalization or software design? WTF?
I get the weird feeling that you're trying to solve your problems by throwing more processes, tools, and abstract concepts to the mix.
Just learn about use cases, flow charts, and screen mock-ups and your world will be simple and happy.
It's amazing how often the popular press gets confused by the technical details.
And it's amazing how often Slashdot and its elitist readers do an even worse job. For example, in this case:
1) The bozo who submitted the article was the one who got the technical details confused. If you RTFA, they actually get it correct.
2) The Slashdot editors, not caring about accuracy, posted a summary which they saw as a button pusher and traffic gem. $$ trumps facts
3) You, the typical Slashdot reader, didn't read the RTFA, and posted a general rant about stupidity and included the mandatory karma whoring Wikipedia link
4) The mods, following the chain, gave your nice little culmination of ignorance a Score:5, Insightful
So to summarize, the press got the story and technology straight. It wasn't until it made it to Slashdot that the story was misunderstood and politicised at every level.
Oh silly you, go away with your logic. This is Slashdot, where arguments are built from the assumption that mankind never adapts to change and that in 20 years all of society will crumble.
For example, did you know that diets are deadly? Even losing a pound a week, as the so called 'experts' recommend, you will be dead in a few years because you will weight NOTHING!
There isn't much that you can do when the customer is uncooperative and doesn't want to get involved or admit their ignorance.
Funny, I bet the customer is thinking the same thing about you. "We hire this person who is supposed to be a software development expert, and we have to spoon feed them everything about they system?"
Each one of your customers has their own job to do. They have their own deadlines and problems to worry about. More than likely, their job doesn't include holding your hand. Your job is to take whatever scraps they toss you and build a useful system out of it. Surprisingly, if you build something solid that includes what they told you, you'll get much more attention from them. If you sit around and whine that "there isn't much that you can do", you're just building a good set of excuses.
Wouldn't UML help with engineering? It's designed of this purpose. You can UML anything, and reports have it that UML makes it easier to find bugs, and make deadlines.
UML is best for high level views of structure and example threads of execution. Not really good for representing algorithms. UML can help you find flaws in your high level architecture, but would be useless in tracking down those little implementation bugs.
IMHO, UML is best used for communication and tossing around requirements. It's also good tool for seeing the relationships and dependencies of the parts of the system. However, if it's used too deeply, it just becomes another burden. If you try to do too much, it becomes unweildy, and takes away time that could be better spent elsewhere (like detailed documentation in source code). I've seen systems with binders full of UML that don't match what the code is doing.
Please describe your emotions as
1) You saw the initial numbers
"It can't be true, it just can't be true"
2) You realized there were many redundancies on the *nix side
"YES YES, I knew it!"
3) You started filtering, and the *nix number was dropping alot
"Ha Ha, Woooo!!!"
4) *nix, in the end, still had a higher number than Windows.
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
They should sue Indiana for wasting their tax dollars on a proven failure in legislation. It is a tremedous waste of tax dollars and it has been shown to fail on constitutional grounds over and over again. Why then do they keep trying it? To me it demonstrates legislators' ineptitude and shows waste.
So your solution to wasting tax dollars is to waste more tax dollars. Excellent.
ICANN is making sure that TLDs for countries are controlled by the governments of those countries?
And what is wrong with this? Isn't this how it's supposed to be?
Nice use of the word nuclear, by the way. Its good to see that propaganda is alive and well.
So some dude hanging out on an internet message board, who knows very little about the technology in question, overgeneralizes and oversimplifies the problem, and assumes the builders of the technology, which is still in prototype mode, will overlook basic problems, is worried.
Sorry if your argument doesn't have me trembling with fear.
Three cheers for run-on sentences and posting while in a bad mood.
Can the big networks like ABC, CBS, and NBC compete anymore?
Did you mean compete or dominate? If you go from only 3 available channels to dozens, of course they're going to lose something. Also, consider that they're limited in the variety of content that they're allowed to show.
With cable and satellite so widespread now, 3 networks having 40% of the quality programming is still pretty good.
Just whose XBox is it? If I paid for it then I should be able to do as I wish with it. Doctrine of First Sale -- Microsoft loses any further control over it. Yeah, if they want to get me for pirating games that's a charge they can take to court, BUT there should not be allowed any case against modding.
"Doctrine of First Sale", as you call it, allows you to resell the device. It does not allow you to do illegal things with the device. The people in question were using the modded XBox to illegally copy and store games. Buying a magazine doesn't give you the right to run around and give people really bad paper cuts.
Dear god, I hope "Doctrine of First Sale" doesn't start showing up in every other copyright post. Please people, don't let it become the next "prior art"
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Well, I talked to Frank last night, and he said there is no way that Joe would agree to this. Jim and Fran might, maybe even Bob, not no, not Joe.
I've never seen Firefly and I probably wouldn't be that interested in it, but I'd rather encourage people to fight for what they want, than sit back and spout pointless cynicism.
Bffft, but that takes effort and doesn't provide me with instant gratification or a false sense of superiority. What fun is that?
The only important work is well paid work?
I wasn't as clear on that as I should have been. I meant to say that lazy people get out of doing stuff that needs to be done becuase they don't feel like doing it. "Important work" meant stuff that may suck, but still needs to be done.
The test of whether people love what they do is whether they'd do it even if they weren't paid for it
Sorry, that's an incorrect statement, and I wish it would die. It's simplistic and not based in reality and just gives lazy people and excuse to dodge doing important work. I'm sick of hearing it.
Look at the flip side, if you find something you love doing, will you still love it if you get paid to do it?
More specifically, would you still love it if you had deadlines to deal with?
People who love their jobs either thrive on the pressure, or have 'easy' jobs that they don't have to take home with them. For example, my mom loves her job because it's low stress, and when she goes home, she doesn't have to worry about work at all. I love my job because I'm an integral part of my company. We both have hobbies we do outside of work that neither of us could ever make a living doing (or would want to!). Sure, in bizzarro world, someone would pay me to sit on my ass and watch weird movies all day, but I would quickly hate it because the other facets of my personality would get ignored. Likewise, if I did my day job for free, I would not get anything done because the pressure would be gone.
You question was about stopping support, however your scenario covered adding support.
Anyway, support depends on what the company is about. If the website provides an online service, then you would like to support a resonable range of technologies. However, if it's the site of a developmeny house that uses the 'latest technology', using table formatting instead of CSS just to support ancient browsers may not look too good.
If it's just an informational website, then pick the top 3 browsers for each of the platforms you care about and support the versions that were released in the last 3 years.
Anagram 'Escom' and you get 'Comes' - now we know why they wanted it so bad.
Gary Kremen his pants
You must be mistaken
Yeah probably, I pulled that post outta my ass. I bet it sounds good though if you don't know any of the facts.
Picture another scenario.
Companies such as Microsoft refuse to help China. China's government still sees the need for the technology, so they create a government branch to build the technology they need. Obviously, this branch would gravitate towards the use of free Open Source software, since the vendors won't support them. This new branch builds China's own IT infrastructure, and in doing so, has a much deeper knowledge of the technology. Now the Chinese government has full control, and the knowledge to go with it.
I think it's better to have vendors holding the government's hand and selling them their insecure software. The experts in the country will be the individuals who use free software to find holes and workarounds to get the information and services they need.
Wow, that is a great website.
Simple, clean, intuitive, easy to find stuff, and it actually looks nice
A far cry from the suckass website of that imposter Jakob Nielsen
I know useability and UI design aren't exactly the same thing (a great UI might not be easily useable by the disabled), but seriously, a website need not use the same layout and color scheme as those crazy mofo websites about alien abduction and the apocalypse
Are we talking about globalization or software design? WTF?
I get the weird feeling that you're trying to solve your problems by throwing more processes, tools, and abstract concepts to the mix.
Just learn about use cases, flow charts, and screen mock-ups and your world will be simple and happy.
Learn Spring. The rest of the pieces will fall into place.
As for MySQL, I don't bother with it because of the license issues. Basically, pay for a license or GPL your code.
Java-centric...competitively priced and based on robust frameworks
I thought this was going to be an article about Spring, Hibernate, & PostgreSQL
It's amazing how often the popular press gets confused by the technical details.
And it's amazing how often Slashdot and its elitist readers do an even worse job. For example, in this case:
1) The bozo who submitted the article was the one who got the technical details confused. If you RTFA, they actually get it correct.
2) The Slashdot editors, not caring about accuracy, posted a summary which they saw as a button pusher and traffic gem. $$ trumps facts
3) You, the typical Slashdot reader, didn't read the RTFA, and posted a general rant about stupidity and included the mandatory karma whoring Wikipedia link
4) The mods, following the chain, gave your nice little culmination of ignorance a Score:5, Insightful
So to summarize, the press got the story and technology straight. It wasn't until it made it to Slashdot that the story was misunderstood and politicised at every level.
Interesting, ain't it?
Oh silly you, go away with your logic.
This is Slashdot, where arguments are built from the assumption that mankind never adapts to change and that in 20 years all of society will crumble.
For example, did you know that diets are deadly? Even losing a pound a week, as the so called 'experts' recommend, you will be dead in a few years because you will weight NOTHING!
There isn't much that you can do when the customer is uncooperative and doesn't want to get involved or admit their ignorance.
Funny, I bet the customer is thinking the same thing about you. "We hire this person who is supposed to be a software development expert, and we have to spoon feed them everything about they system?"
Each one of your customers has their own job to do. They have their own deadlines and problems to worry about. More than likely, their job doesn't include holding your hand. Your job is to take whatever scraps they toss you and build a useful system out of it. Surprisingly, if you build something solid that includes what they told you, you'll get much more attention from them. If you sit around and whine that "there isn't much that you can do", you're just building a good set of excuses.
Wouldn't UML help with engineering? It's designed of this purpose. You can UML anything, and reports have it that UML makes it easier to find bugs, and make deadlines.
UML is best for high level views of structure and example threads of execution. Not really good for representing algorithms. UML can help you find flaws in your high level architecture, but would be useless in tracking down those little implementation bugs.
IMHO, UML is best used for communication and tossing around requirements. It's also good tool for seeing the relationships and dependencies of the parts of the system. However, if it's used too deeply, it just becomes another burden. If you try to do too much, it becomes unweildy, and takes away time that could be better spent elsewhere (like detailed documentation in source code). I've seen systems with binders full of UML that don't match what the code is doing.
Also, how many of you have ever had a customer who could state their requirements clearly enough to offer that kind of warranty?
That's your job. If a customer were able to build a clear set of requirements, then they would likely have the skills to build their own systems.
Please describe your emotions as! !!!!!
1) You saw the initial numbers
"It can't be true, it just can't be true"
2) You realized there were many redundancies on the *nix side
"YES YES, I knew it!"
3) You started filtering, and the *nix number was dropping alot
"Ha Ha, Woooo!!!"
4) *nix, in the end, still had a higher number than Windows.
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
They should sue Indiana for wasting their tax dollars on a proven failure in legislation. It is a tremedous waste of tax dollars and it has been shown to fail on constitutional grounds over and over again. Why then do they keep trying it? To me it demonstrates legislators' ineptitude and shows waste.
So your solution to wasting tax dollars is to waste more tax dollars. Excellent.
Should actually be "How ICANN Undermined the Internet"
Propaganda is SUPPOSED to be misleading. Duh.
ICANN is making sure that TLDs for countries are controlled by the governments of those countries?
And what is wrong with this? Isn't this how it's supposed to be?
Nice use of the word nuclear, by the way. Its good to see that propaganda is alive and well.
So some dude hanging out on an internet message board, who knows very little about the technology in question, overgeneralizes and oversimplifies the problem, and assumes the builders of the technology, which is still in prototype mode, will overlook basic problems, is worried.
Sorry if your argument doesn't have me trembling with fear.
Three cheers for run-on sentences and posting while in a bad mood.
Can the big networks like ABC, CBS, and NBC compete anymore?
Did you mean compete or dominate? If you go from only 3 available channels to dozens, of course they're going to lose something. Also, consider that they're limited in the variety of content that they're allowed to show.
With cable and satellite so widespread now, 3 networks having 40% of the quality programming is still pretty good.
Just whose XBox is it? If I paid for it then I should be able to do as I wish with it. Doctrine of First Sale -- Microsoft loses any further control over it. Yeah, if they want to get me for pirating games that's a charge they can take to court, BUT there should not be allowed any case against modding.
"Doctrine of First Sale", as you call it, allows you to resell the device. It does not allow you to do illegal things with the device. The people in question were using the modded XBox to illegally copy and store games. Buying a magazine doesn't give you the right to run around and give people really bad paper cuts.
Dear god, I hope "Doctrine of First Sale" doesn't start showing up in every other copyright post. Please people, don't let it become the next "prior art"
I am disappointed.
Then cancel your subscription.