Google has alot of resources, so of course they are going to try to grow their capabilities. Sticking with one thing, even done ultra well, is small minded. They're taking their success from the search engine area and trying to grow it. Actually if you look, many of their new products are applications of their search technology. That is still their core, but they're poking into other areas. Also, you don't hire a bunch of PhDs and have all of them work in the same project. You let em loose in a controlled manner and see what they come up with. Research exists to find out new stuff, to try and see what could succeed and what will fail. But.. you don't know if you don't try, and if you have the resources to afford failure, you'll likely have huge successes in other areas.
Dodgy logic. Tim Berners-Lee is British. He invented the Web while working at CERN (that's in Europe by the way). Can we have our web back then please?
Slightly offtopic. I notice you mention Britain and Europe, then follow it up with 'we'. Being from the US, I obviously ignore the rest of the world. Is the European Union really becoming a single entity? In the US, people have a slight allegiance to their states, some stronger, like Texas, however we usually identify ourselves as Americans. Is Europe following the same path?
It's more of an attraction to certain modes of thinking and systems of reward than failing at the "real world"
You really have something there. Alot of geeks are conditioned to compare themselves to the popular crowd. They put themselves up against standards which they're not designed to meet, like an apple becoming depressed because it's not orange. They become 'losers', so they sink into this gaming world where they can win. On WoW for instance, there are so many people playing, that the field is very average. Any dedication will make you 'better' that alot of the other people you compete against. It's a huge ego boost to take out someone else in one-on-one combat. It's a well defined world, where winning is easy, much much easier than competing in the real world.
And I'm not talking about gaming for fun, it's the people who game for survival.
The sad thing is that these reculsive geeks do have the tools to compete in the real world, they are just afraid to try.
it's a communication infrastructure that's too important to the future of humanity to be screwed with.
Ummm, which side are you arguing? It's been stable for like 50 years now, and you want to toss it into a 'rule by committee' environment?
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Wow,
Anyone know why id is worth 105 million?
If they are bought out and the main dudes retire, where does the future income come from? I know they license the engines, but that plus sales of current games can't be more than a few years of diminishing sales.
Anyone think the name alone will sale enough products in the future to make it worthwhile?
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because they are the very CAUSE of suicide bombers IMHO
Umm...no, suicide bombers are caused by power hungry leaders in oppressive societies use fanatical nationalism and/or religion to con people into dying for a cause. Its just another form of exploitation.
If some ignorant redneck scares you more than someone willing to murder innocent people for some random reason, then you need a reality check.
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Have to wear a Burqa?
The Middle East isn't as uniformly tyrannical as you think it is. In many of the gulf coast countries, for instance, you can go to the mall and see women dressed the same as they are in the States or in Europe.
Get a job outside of the game field, and either build a game in your spare time, or volunteer your time to a group building a game or mod.
over something that seems superficial and silly rather than anything related to competence in any given talent.
How is proven experience not related to competence? Put another way, if you claim to have the competence, then how are you not able to prove it to them? What is your competence? Good grades? Projects you did on your own? A healthy ego is not competence.
If you claim to be good at something, then you've must have done it, so you have something to put on your resume. 2 years experience is not a huge demand. If you can demonstrate real skills, you can sometimes get that sort of work if you take the chance of sending in the resume anyway.
However, if you got an 'A' on a six week project, and think you can go after senior level positions, then you need a reality check.
The original posters were strictly speaking in World of Warcraft terms, you chimed back with D&D type stats. The generation gap comment was to note a possible misinterpretation of the comments based on generation. An older person (35+) may see the WoW stats and think D&D. Vice-versa for the younger crowd.
My '+5' comment was a 'joke' meaning that while a +5 modifier to D&D equipment usually has an obvious meaning, to WoW equipment it does not. Must be +5 strength, defense, or whatever.
I'm old enough to have played D&D heavily (when it was more popular), but young enough to have played WoW heavily too (no family yet)
I think the extended explanation is just to justify to myself that what I said made sense;)
And thinking about it more, in the 3 pirate case the answer will be 0 0 100, where the third pirate gets everything and the head pirate lives (assuming that they don't start fighting during negotiations). The head pirate can't trust pirate 2 with any deal, because 2 just needs to vote no and he gets everything. So, the head dude needs to dump it all on 3 for his vote. If the head dude tries to keep anything, 3 can just say no, knowing that the head dude will not die just so that 3 doesn't get anything. Haven't noodled through the 5 pirate problem, but I do know that the 'correct' answer found using induction is wrong given the problem.
I love this problem because it shows how unrealistic these logic puzzles are.
The 'correct' answer is always something like 98 0 1 0 1, where the head dude keeps 98 gold.
To see the flaw, simplify it to 3 pirates. The 'correct' answer here is 99 0 1. The reasoning is that if there were 2 pirates, the head dude would just keep it all since he wins the vote. So, with 3, the reasoning is that the head dude tosses a coin to the last dude, because if the head dude dies, the second one takes everything and the last one gets nothing. OK, the flaw is that THE HEAD PIRATE WILL NOT LET HIMSELF DIE!! He's not going to die, just to prove 3 wrong. The head pirate has no power. The 'optimal' solution where the main dude takes 99 and tosses a coin to the last guy is stupid. Why on earth would 2 and 3 accept one gold between them when they have the power to kill the first guy whos taking 99?
So now what? Given that 'optimal' solution, 2 and 3 decide to split the pot 50/50 and force the head dude to fork it all over in return for their lives. The head dude responds by offering one of them more than 50. A biddin war ensues, and likely ends with the head dude keeping 49 and either 2 or 3 keeping 51. Whatever happens, there is no reasonable solution where either 2 or 3 get less than 50 gold.
I did that too. Mr Lloyd Robert Borrett broke the rules by revealing the solution...
Just more proof that there are many different kinds of 'smart' in the world.
Bingo. I would also argue that 'software engineering' is not mature, or at least standarized enough, to be regulated. I don't know enough about how real engineers in other fields do it, but the closest thing software engineers have to a real specification is source code. All that UML, requirements matrices, etc... are all useful, but very weak.
If the most famous 'cracker' doesn't even use the term, then it's pretty safe to say the hacker/cracker distinction is only in the minds of an unsuccessful subculture trying to push the terms.
I doubt these kind of issues can be singled out by a blood test.
No shit, Sherlock. You've just oversimplified the situation, then complained that it was too simple.
This is no different than any other medical test. Patient complains and doctor takes complaints + test results + research + experience to figure out what's going on. Complaints + results don't jive? Well, then more questions, tests, research, querying other doctors.
One idea is that our soldiers could have a chip in their dogtags that the robot could identify so as to not shoot at them
Right. I think people here need to realize that the real world isn't like a video game. Having 'robots' automagically shooting things is bad, especially in urban environments where our soldiers spend alot of time these days. Some little kid makes a loud noise or is near a discharging weapon and gets his brains blown out.
Computers provide information. People make decisions.
I'm actually thankfull for some of the bad teachers I had in college. They demanded results, yet were unclear about what they wanted, so they really helped me prepare for the bad customers in real life. And unfortunately, there aren't enough good customers out there to keep you in business.
15000 people just worked for free, and Google reaped the short term benefits.
I think you're drifting a bit. This was a timed coding contest, not a long term R&D project. Really doubt you'll see thousands of new Google products popping up next week. This was with Topcoder also, who has been running these contests for awhile now. At best, Google gets positive PR and face time with top young developers, who they'll peg for interviews after school. This is about the people, not the ideas.
Wow, spend a few of your precious seconds and look at the big picture.
Compare the time it takes to open the browser to the time you will spend browsing. Unless you use Firefox for less than a minute before closing it again, the time to open is meaningless.
This kinda reminds me of people who spend 5 minutes looking for a good parking spot which will save them 30 seconds of walking, just to spend the next half hour walking around the grocery store.
Use the same techniques to decipher Slashot headlines
Researchers use grammar to trace relations between Papuan languages. What is interesting is not that much that they use grammar features to do this, but that they seem to have given up using vocabulary as a help.
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You don't understand research, or business...
Google has alot of resources, so of course they are going to try to grow their capabilities. Sticking with one thing, even done ultra well, is small minded. They're taking their success from the search engine area and trying to grow it. Actually if you look, many of their new products are applications of their search technology. That is still their core, but they're poking into other areas.
Also, you don't hire a bunch of PhDs and have all of them work in the same project. You let em loose in a controlled manner and see what they come up with. Research exists to find out new stuff, to try and see what could succeed and what will fail. But.. you don't know if you don't try, and if you have the resources to afford failure, you'll likely have huge successes in other areas.
Your contributions have been much appreciated.
Yes, thank you. My sadistic operating systems professor used your textbook. Your name still gives me nightmares to this day.
Dodgy logic. Tim Berners-Lee is British. He invented the Web while working at CERN (that's in Europe by the way). Can we have our web back then please?
Slightly offtopic. I notice you mention Britain and Europe, then follow it up with 'we'. Being from the US, I obviously ignore the rest of the world. Is the European Union really becoming a single entity? In the US, people have a slight allegiance to their states, some stronger, like Texas, however we usually identify ourselves as Americans. Is Europe following the same path?
It's more of an attraction to certain modes of thinking and systems of reward than failing at the "real world"
//recovering gaming geek ;)
You really have something there. Alot of geeks are conditioned to compare themselves to the popular crowd. They put themselves up against standards which they're not designed to meet, like an apple becoming depressed because it's not orange. They become 'losers', so they sink into this gaming world where they can win. On WoW for instance, there are so many people playing, that the field is very average. Any dedication will make you 'better' that alot of the other people you compete against. It's a huge ego boost to take out someone else in one-on-one combat. It's a well defined world, where winning is easy, much much easier than competing in the real world.
And I'm not talking about gaming for fun, it's the people who game for survival. The sad thing is that these reculsive geeks do have the tools to compete in the real world, they are just afraid to try.
it's a communication infrastructure that's too important to the future of humanity to be screwed with.
Ummm, which side are you arguing? It's been stable for like 50 years now, and you want to toss it into a 'rule by committee' environment?
Wow,
Anyone know why id is worth 105 million?
If they are bought out and the main dudes retire, where does the future income come from? I know they license the engines, but that plus sales of current games can't be more than a few years of diminishing sales.
Anyone think the name alone will sale enough products in the future to make it worthwhile?
because they are the very CAUSE of suicide bombers IMHO
Umm...no, suicide bombers are caused by power hungry leaders in oppressive societies use fanatical nationalism and/or religion to con people into dying for a cause. Its just another form of exploitation.
If some ignorant redneck scares you more than someone willing to murder innocent people for some random reason, then you need a reality check.
Have to wear a Burqa?
The Middle East isn't as uniformly tyrannical as you think it is. In many of the gulf coast countries, for instance, you can go to the mall and see women dressed the same as they are in the States or in Europe.
Get a job outside of the game field, and either build a game in your spare time, or volunteer your time to a group building a game or mod.
over something that seems superficial and silly rather than anything related to competence in any given talent.
How is proven experience not related to competence? Put another way, if you claim to have the competence, then how are you not able to prove it to them? What is your competence? Good grades? Projects you did on your own? A healthy ego is not competence.
If you claim to be good at something, then you've must have done it, so you have something to put on your resume. 2 years experience is not a huge demand. If you can demonstrate real skills, you can sometimes get that sort of work if you take the chance of sending in the resume anyway.
However, if you got an 'A' on a six week project, and think you can go after senior level positions, then you need a reality check.
The original posters were strictly speaking in World of Warcraft terms, you chimed back with D&D type stats. The generation gap comment was to note a possible misinterpretation of the comments based on generation. An older person (35+) may see the WoW stats and think D&D. Vice-versa for the younger crowd.
;)
My '+5' comment was a 'joke' meaning that while a +5 modifier to D&D equipment usually has an obvious meaning, to WoW equipment it does not. Must be +5 strength, defense, or whatever.
I'm old enough to have played D&D heavily (when it was more popular), but young enough to have played WoW heavily too (no family yet)
I think the extended explanation is just to justify to myself that what I said made sense
Wow, do I sense a nerd generation gap?
;)
+5? +5 to what?
think this is a horrible idea?
Yeah, it will look like ass. And what the hell is the point of providing component and s-video support when the video is already trashed?
And thinking about it more, in the 3 pirate case the answer will be 0 0 100, where the third pirate gets everything and the head pirate lives (assuming that they don't start fighting during negotiations). The head pirate can't trust pirate 2 with any deal, because 2 just needs to vote no and he gets everything. So, the head dude needs to dump it all on 3 for his vote. If the head dude tries to keep anything, 3 can just say no, knowing that the head dude will not die just so that 3 doesn't get anything.
Haven't noodled through the 5 pirate problem, but I do know that the 'correct' answer found using induction is wrong given the problem.
I love this problem because it shows how unrealistic these logic puzzles are.
The 'correct' answer is always something like 98 0 1 0 1, where the head dude keeps 98 gold.
To see the flaw, simplify it to 3 pirates. The 'correct' answer here is 99 0 1. The reasoning is that if there were 2 pirates, the head dude would just keep it all since he wins the vote. So, with 3, the reasoning is that the head dude tosses a coin to the last dude, because if the head dude dies, the second one takes everything and the last one gets nothing. OK, the flaw is that THE HEAD PIRATE WILL NOT LET HIMSELF DIE!! He's not going to die, just to prove 3 wrong. The head pirate has no power. The 'optimal' solution where the main dude takes 99 and tosses a coin to the last guy is stupid. Why on earth would 2 and 3 accept one gold between them when they have the power to kill the first guy whos taking 99?
So now what? Given that 'optimal' solution, 2 and 3 decide to split the pot 50/50 and force the head dude to fork it all over in return for their lives. The head dude responds by offering one of them more than 50. A biddin war ensues, and likely ends with the head dude keeping 49 and either 2 or 3 keeping 51. Whatever happens, there is no reasonable solution where either 2 or 3 get less than 50 gold.
I did that too. Mr Lloyd Robert Borrett broke the rules by revealing the solution...
Just more proof that there are many different kinds of 'smart' in the world.
Bingo. I would also argue that 'software engineering' is not mature, or at least standarized enough, to be regulated. I don't know enough about how real engineers in other fields do it, but the closest thing software engineers have to a real specification is source code. All that UML, requirements matrices, etc... are all useful, but very weak.
Maybe there just isn't a distinction.
If the most famous 'cracker' doesn't even use the term, then it's pretty safe to say the hacker/cracker distinction is only in the minds of an unsuccessful subculture trying to push the terms.
I doubt these kind of issues can be singled out by a blood test.
No shit, Sherlock. You've just oversimplified the situation, then complained that it was too simple.
This is no different than any other medical test. Patient complains and doctor takes complaints + test results + research + experience to figure out what's going on. Complaints + results don't jive? Well, then more questions, tests, research, querying other doctors.
One idea is that our soldiers could have a chip in their dogtags that the robot could identify so as to not shoot at them
Right. I think people here need to realize that the real world isn't like a video game. Having 'robots' automagically shooting things is bad, especially in urban environments where our soldiers spend alot of time these days. Some little kid makes a loud noise or is near a discharging weapon and gets his brains blown out.
Computers provide information. People make decisions.
Peter Jackson is directing? But that would result in a good movie...
I suggest you go back and look at some of his earlier works.
He's had his share of really good and really bad.
Posted by CmdrTaco on Thu September 29, 12:12
when it's released next month.
Episode III comes out on DVD November 1st
Don't worry, it will fix itself when they repeat the story in 2 days.
I'm actually thankfull for some of the bad teachers I had in college. They demanded results, yet were unclear about what they wanted, so they really helped me prepare for the bad customers in real life. And unfortunately, there aren't enough good customers out there to keep you in business.
15000 people just worked for free, and Google reaped the short term benefits.
I think you're drifting a bit. This was a timed coding contest, not a long term R&D project. Really doubt you'll see thousands of new Google products popping up next week. This was with Topcoder also, who has been running these contests for awhile now. At best, Google gets positive PR and face time with top young developers, who they'll peg for interviews after school. This is about the people, not the ideas.
Wow, spend a few of your precious seconds and look at the big picture.
Compare the time it takes to open the browser to the time you will spend browsing. Unless you use Firefox for less than a minute before closing it again, the time to open is meaningless.
This kinda reminds me of people who spend 5 minutes looking for a good parking spot which will save them 30 seconds of walking, just to spend the next half hour walking around the grocery store.
Use the same techniques to decipher Slashot headlines
Researchers use grammar to trace relations between Papuan languages. What is interesting is not that much that they use grammar features to do this, but that they seem to have given up using vocabulary as a help.