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No Modification PSP TV Adapter
Craig writes "PSP Owners have long been interested in watching the UMD films and playing games on the TV, well now according to a report from Lik Sang they can, the new PSPTV being produced eventually by Gametech will be a no modification addon. From the article: 'The TV Adapter for PSP lets you hook up your PSP to your home television (NTSC and PAL) via Composite or S-Video and Stereo connectors. This adapter requires no modification of your PSP console. This new peripheral takes a completely different approach and clips on top of your PSP screen, with two screws to fit at the back of the handheld (in these two holes you can see on the top of the UMD drive). Some sort of pyramid grows from the base, with a precision lens and mirror system at the top, capturing the image and light, in a similar way a scanner or camera would. It then converts it into a video signal that is sent through video leads going from the adapter to your TV set.'"
I bet its going to cost you a kidney too...
Now with more fun and less hassle.
... is a TV that fits in your packet
think this is a horrible idea?
Covert it from the out put via capture to digital back to analog, just a couple conversions too many imo.
If you paid $20 for content on UMD so you could watch it on a tiny little screen, you deserve to be shot. Spending $20+ on a full sized DVD that you can watch on your widescreen television once or twice in your life is absurd enough, much less this PSP UMD nonsense. But it just proves, people will buy anything!
UMD? More like D U M! Giggady giggady gig!
Does this essentially turn your PSP screen into a transparency, and a digital version of an overhead projector sends it to the TV screen?
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I wonder what this will cost, weight, and how good the picture will look. Also, can I clip it to my wang?
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Surely this is a joke?
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The whole exercise seems like a lot of work to hook a PSP up to a TV with a device that's got to be ugly and unweildy. Why not just buy a PS2 if you want to play games on the TV?
Seems to me this might be a response to the Video iPod.
So essentially I'm paying for a UMD disk, then a converter to play it on the TV? And then the PSP version of the game and said converter to play on TV? I already have this. It's called my PS2. I'm not paying for stuff twice just so I can be "cool."
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PSP $249
UDM movie $20
funny looking video capture device on top of your PSP $100
watching crappy degraded UDM movie on your TV...... PRICELESS.
oh wait... no this seems really f'ing stupid... why dosn't the psp have some sort of tv out anyway?
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You'd be a tool to buy this.
How about this:
DVD Movie: $15.99
Standalone DVD player: $40
Never needing to buy a movie in a proprietary format: Priceless.
Wow, talk about a way to get a low resolution DVD substitute which would look sketchy on a full-size screen to look worse. Eh, if I want a movie on my TV I'll get a real DVD.
If they can get it looking good, kudos to them. It'd be tough to do.
Why do you need a TV for a big-screen experience on the PSP? Just make a verison that clips on to a huge fresnel lens. Instant 40" widescreen action!
It sounds awful cheesy to me.
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While I'm sure nobody is particularly thrilled or compelled to rush out and get a PSP so they can use one of these, It sure does present a great way of getting the UMD content onto a PC (albeit through an analogue in) on a VIVO equipped PC of some kind. In the days of DRM, analogue is your friend.
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Also, Lik-Sang does sell a modification kit with a pure s-video out and PS2 controller port if you look around in TFA.
What about movies like Advent Children released only in UMD format?
Sony is gona have a field day since people can intercept the signal and upload it as pirated UMD movies. Given Sony's love for DRM, I am not suprised if they ask the customs to intercept those devices and have the courts declear them illegal.
No matter how tightly they manage to bolt down our content with DRM, something like this will always be possible. As long as we can play the signal and see it once on our DRM'd monitors, we can record it. OK, so the quality will be degraded a bit but most people are willing to put up with a less than optimum signal most of the time. (otherwise we'd all have Beta instead of VHS)
With all the nostalgia gaming in the homebrew scene, I'm sure someone will buy this cuz it looks like the cool black Viewmaster we wanted as kids. Those of us who remember the ugly red one may agree.
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How in the world is this insightful?
So between this and the PSP's already-announced "virtual boy" addon, do you think we're starting to see a trend here?
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Wouldnt this work in theaters too? The way I see it, someone can take their PSP into the theaters and record the whole damned movie and no one would notice...
correct me if I misunderstood what the article said.
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This is significant because it completely circumvents the DMCA. For years we've been saying, "the DMCA has no teeth, because ultimately; if I can see it or hear it, I can record it." That is exactly what is happening here, but it avoids the DMCA because it does not break any encryption or other form of effective copyright protection.
So, who's placing bets on how long it will take for the volley of lobbyists to reach DC?
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Did you read the article? "Unfortunately, the installation requires you to open and modify your PSP console, and you need to replace the front face plate with a new one. This TV Adapter is recommended only for advanced D.I.Y. technicians, and installing the kit will definitely void your warranty."
... it will look HORRIBLE! This will be worse than the crappy ripped AVI movies people put on the web....GACK!
So if it's not a 'mod', but it voids your warranty, what is it? Oh yeah, a PIECE OF CRAP! Ok, I'm going to take 480 x 272 video and blow it up to wide screen using an A/D/A conversion device costing $120
I hate to say it, but this is one of those times where it REALLY is better to buy the effing DVD! And, I HATE the MPAA (and the RIAA, for that matter).
Patent pending: to use this technique you must send me $100.
UMD Video will be on our tv's soon enough. People think the content was only designed for the psp screen but in all reality, UMD Video is actually encoded at 720x480 (Same resolution as a DVD Video). Think about the math for a second
1.8 gig umd encoded with mpeg 4 avc codec.
4.7 gig dvd encoded with mpeg 2
Mpeg 2 -> Mpeg 4 cut file sizes in half by itself
Mpeg 4 -> h.263 (avc) Cuts file sizes almost in half again
That really comes down to mpeg 2 dvd quality can fit in 1/4 the space when encoded with h.263
1.8 gigs a disc is really quiet a bit for a h.263 encoded movie at dvd resolution, just look at divx, where you can rip an entire movie down to 700meg and maintain most it's quality. H.263 pushes that even further.
If sony was to encode video for the psp at 480x272 with a bitrate of about 1 meg a second for video and 128kb sound, it would come out far smaller then 1 gig, but the reason you don't see umd rips (which could be played back on a computer using a special player) is because currently there are not many 2 gig pro duo sticks and it makes these movies hard to rip because they almost always take the full 1.8 gig of the umd.
This sony encoding at 720x480 is not just a hunch based on file sizes either, it's a little bird that wispered in my ear. I think in the next year or two, you can expect to see other umd format devices, such as home players and maybe higher resolution portable movie players.
People who take this path of scanning there psp to show it on the tv are morons, and they are potentially going to have the worst quality ever seen on a tv. The only way it would be bareable is if the tv your watching it on has a smaller screen then the psp itself, otherwise you'll just have a blurry mess.
This is how we will rip HD-DVDs in the near future.
When the path from the disc to the display is completely encrypted,
this will be the only way to duplicate your own movie.
So don't throw away this old videocamera and microphone.
Since when were DVDs not proprietary?
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
ummm ... while I applaud the ingenuity in getting this to work, I feel they've missed the point by, oh, about 2 miles!
.. you know you can leave you house with it, play games and watch movies on the train that sort of thing. I know that's what I do with mine ... or is it me thats weird ?!?!?!
The whole thing about the PSP is that it's portable
You've paid three times as much. (never mind the cost of the PSP and TV thing)
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I just got a Polaroid 7" portable DVD player for just over $100. Not only is that less than half of the price of a PSP (even after tax), I can play regular DVD movies on it, it has a 4-5 hour battery life, it has audio/video inputs and outputs so I can hook it up to the TV or hook my videogame systems to it, and it even has a remote control which is useful if it's hooked up to the TV. Anyone that would buy UMD movies for the PSP is an idiot, IMHO.
i haven't tried this yet... anyone know whether there're any weirdnesses in accessing URLs, rtsp or mms streams, etc. from the location free player on the PSP?
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I'm glad the composite or S-video on this device is compatible with both NTSC and PAL tv's.
P.S. If you think I'm serious your a frigging moron.
Sound lossy... Personally, I'd rather take a solderign iron the the screen itself, well, it's connectors, anyway.
If I wanted to play PSP games on my TV I'd buy a PSOne.
How about an iPod adapter so that you can record all your DRM enabled AAC files directly onto 1/2" audio tape and encode them again via a soundcard.
They should market that video device as a Macrovision Breaker (if such protection is used in the UMD format).
that is the ugliest hack I've ever heard of. I might as well point my iSight at my PSP and display it on my flatscreen. unbelievable...
This is exactly why I'm not real sure why we're so paranoid about getting locked out of copying DVDs or pay-per-view movies. Look, the worst that'll happen is that you have video tape what you're watching. Until companies figure out how to pipe the goods right into electrodes sitting in our brains, we'll continue to have an awfully natural break point from which to grab anything we can experience -- from the contraptions that allow us to preserve "real life". This Sony PSP handheld projector is an awfully smart idea along those lines, as it is simply a specialized camera tied to a projection system that can easily get, I'd imagine, the sort of resolution to which we've become acustomed to seeing on the half-century-plus old medium of the television.
I recently (yesterday? Man, I need a LONG nap) purchased three [vinyl] records, as an example. I know audiophiles will hate me, but instead of buying hundreds of dollars of software and equipment to listen to them through iTunes, I plan to stick my iBook in front of the speaks and tape it through the mike there. What's the big deal? I've listened to shows from Furthurnet that aren't much better, and enjoyed them.
What we've become used to and spoiled by is the ability to have everything in a digital format, and not only that but a digital format that provides what goes for a "definitive" experience; the digital version is now usually 'the best'. The fact that today's generation expects exact copies of the definitive experience even in their blackmarket content shows what's particularly unique about this digital age. We've come a long ways even from the in-theater camcorder bootlegs Seinfeld made famous.
It's all 0s and 1s. Or it's not.
...why? Why would anyone want this? The PSP is a "portable" device. I see no point in connecting my PSP to my home set-up. Maybe an interesting hack but I seriously doubt "finacially viable".
Jeesh...I've been living i the caribbean too long. That is damn cheap. Please give me a link to that baby so I can buy a few. Thanks.
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That should be lik-wang.
If it wasn't it would make no sense.
"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that 'all men are created equal'. Which is all well and good, but why the fuck can't I hook my PSP up to the TV? It's a God-damn simple concept! I just keep asking myself how long is it going to take for someone to crack this shizzle, you knizzle?"
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You KNOW that the only reason there is no video output on the PSP is because the Sony content masters are a separate division from the electronics division.
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One has to protect the content at all costs, the other has to sell hardware with restrictions imposed by the content division. What fun it must be to work at Sony
It's like all the DVD players they sold that wouldn't read DVD-R (even those written in Sony burners) a few years ago.
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7015 794&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat139000500 18&id=1099394245802
I just got it from Best Buy's website and selected the store pickup option. It looks like their sale ended (I got it yesterday), it's $129.99 now, but it looks like there's a 2 free DVD promotion with it now, so that might make up for it.
Not sure how well This is going to work but it claims to let you use a ps2 controller! No more carpal tunnel after a marathon session of Lumines.
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Unfortunately, the installation requires you to open and modify your PSP console, and you need to replace the front face plate with a new one. This TV Adapter is recommended only for advanced D.I.Y. technicians, and installing the kit will definitely void your warranty.
This is hardly what I would call "Modification Free"
let's not forget that it sounds like a bag of shit as well!! pity's sake, it captures the image from the bloody screen! does nobody else think that sounds like holding a tape recorder next to a speaker?
Besides, do you really think that most people watch most DVDs that they buy only 1 or 2 times?
Where I come from, only family DVDs are purchased; the rest are rented. If you are trying to cook, clean, or study with a 2-year-old in the house, playing the same 7 G-rated cartoons every 7 days is a good thing.
I could keep a reasonably large library of shows or movies to watch on it, then hook it up to the TV at the hotel to kill a couple of hours before bed.
Almost all motel TVs I've seen can only show cable because they don't have composite video inputs. Which hotels are you talking about? Do their TVs have working RCA jacks for composite video input, or are their inputs proprietary so that you have to pay extra to rent an adapter?
It looks like their sale ended (I got it yesterday), it's $129.99 now
Thanks for the link. It appears that at least in the States, a DVD player plus a Nintendo DS is not significantly more expensive than a PSP.
Why pay twice as much money for games that are gimped versions of their plugged in bretheren?
Where is Lumines for PlayStation 2? A lot of people claim to have been considering buying PSP systems just for one game, the same way people in 1990 bought Game Boy systems just for Tetris.
Man, is it April 1st already?
Some people are like slinkies--basically useless but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.
the PSP has the capacity to playback movies from resonably affordable flash memory.
It's too bad that in most of the English-speaking world (by population), you could go to prison if you rip a store-bought DVD to flash memory. DMCA is law in the United States, and per the WIPO Copyright Treaty, Australia and the United Kingdom have adopted DMCA-alike legislation.
PSP UMD disks have resolutions significantly below broadcast quality, and not at all up to DVD standards.
For one thing, "broadcast quality" is not too good. After you figure in the luma/chroma multiplexing and the interlacing, the effective resolution of an NTSC composite signal is only about 480x240 pixels, which is about the same as that of UMD Video. If you have analog cable, or (gosh forbish) you receive actual analog TV "broadcasts", then the signal-to-noise ratio goes to hell too.
and one to keep the kid quiet in the car.
If your kid breaks a $130 DVD player, it's cheaper than if your kid breaks a $250 PSP. In fact, you could almost buy a Nintendo DS and a portable DVD player for the price of a PSP.
It appears based on the miniscule demand for portable DVD players that Americans don't like carrying around multiple battery packs, three different forms of media, and two AC adapters to enjoy both video games and movies. As you know, Americans are morbidly obese and physically weak due to excessive television and McDonald's*, so all of this mass is considerably less desirable to cart around.
For a similar example, note how many people selfishly tote about DRM-supporting music players whose contents cannot be retrieved without the use of third-party software when they could be carrying good old portable CD players for considerably less money. Did you know that a portable CD player costs $20, and 100 CD-Rs cost about $20 as well, whereas the cheapest so-called "iPod" costs $100 and only stores one CD's worth of music at lossless quality?
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it claims to let you use a ps2 controller! No more carpal tunnel after a marathon session of Lumines.
Or use your PS2 controller on your PC (through an appropriate adapter) and play Luminesweeper, where you can even make your own skins.
i understand why you don't wan't to spend thousands on kit but can't you at least find a way to keep the signal in an electrical form rather than recording through a horrible laptop mic?
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With the screen just an inch or so in front of your eyes, it's bound to appear HUGE! Just like those virtual reality goggles
Did you mean Virtual Boy?
Sucker.
still call it illegal and theft.
i mean after all, when you buy a console, sony/ms/nintendo are still the owners, it's THEIR machine. you have to pay them for the privilege of making addons for it or for executing any code on the processors.
remember kids, property rights are for hippies and pinko commies and "terrists".
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AVC is H.264, not H.263.
I think you overstate the level of compression possible without losing quality though.
I don't believe PSP videos are encoded at 720x480. But time will tell, I suppose.
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So you're telling me that non-Americans enjoy carrying around 20lb of chargers, cables, equipment, and batteries?
Europeans are stranger then I thought, I guess.
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You're right. It does say that. For a completely fucking different piece of hardware then the story is talking about.
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Thanks. Even at 130...that's a deal. I already bought one for myself. Might buy another 5 for christmas presents when they go back on sale.
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HEY! Why not stick a virtual boy and a pair of ear buds to this thing stuck on to my PSP and get to watch my PSP games as though it was on a 100" screen with surround sound!!!
This is a really bad idea, but it seems to me there are going to be a lot of projects modding these things if they ever come to market and aren't insanely expensive (Even if they are just moderately) expensive, just because it would be fun.
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Don't forget to take the "pyramid like object" off the PSP before putting back in your pocket.
Guess what? The PSP is not designed to be hooked up to a television. if you want to do so, you have two options. The first, is to get some half-assed contraption like this, which is going to likely offer crap video quality.
And then there's the RIGHT WAY. http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3696 Which has been adopted by many gaming news outlets, prior to it even being released.
It even lets you hook up a PS2 controller. Are you really going to play your PSP with this new contraption on the front of it? I think not. Unlike this new one, it actually taps into the video signal going to the LCD directly. That certainly seems like the more intelligent method, and is certainly liable to be the option with the highest quality output.
Face it, the serious PSP users have already voided their warranty for homebrew apps, piracy, or just to stick it to Sony by downgrading their firmware out of spite. Replacing the faceplate with one that has a connector at the bottom allowing you to dock a REAL video output solution to it is a sound idea that makes a hell of a lot more sense than this thing.
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I just got a Polaroid 7" portable DVD player for just over $100. Not only is that less than half of the price of a PSP (even after tax), I can play regular DVD movies on it Does your $100 polaroid portable DVD player play PSP games as well? No? Oh.. I guess that's no good to me then. I bought a PSP to play PSP games, I don't know about the rest of you. That it also plays films, music and I can use it's WLAN and web browser to check my email when I'm on the move as well, it's a nice added bonus.
This does NOT do streaming, but it does allow storage using the Free Space of any Hard Drive of a PC on your Network. This means that even with a 32Meg Memory Stick, you can still use all the PSP Portals Know to Man Kind and store tons of Videos and Music as well. You can access these files worldwide simple by also using port forwardng on your wireless router, it's a simple http server, and it's FREE. More info here: http://testing.onlytherightanswers.com/modules.php ?name=News&file=article&sid=30
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Exactly. And remember who their target audience is: People who bought UMDs.
Engineer: "I figured out a way to show PSP movies on the TV!"
Exec: "Uhm, that's gonna cost a lot, and it looks like crap. Who's gonna buy this?"
Engineer: "The same idiots who bought all the UMD movies."
Exec: "When can we ship it?"
I admit that my reply was a bit rude, but the fact is that what the guy said was totally inaccurate.