jeesh , people i will say this for the last time , I am not saying that it wasn't needed I am saying it shouldn't be , and no im not being unresonible. Can you name any other thing in the world that you would pay for if you were near 100% sure that it was going to be found to be broken in some way(new not second hand). A procesor as i used in a previous example is every bit as complex , but how often do we hear about faulty units being shipped or quirks in the procesors computational units that need balancing . MMO or even just regular online games are given far too much slack , When i buy something that has gone Gold as it were and is not in beta testing , i expect a finished product.
I stand corrected , although i didn't actualy mean to imply it was of roman descent , i acidently did. i speak next to no anciant greek , but does porneia have any other meanings as im sure i have heard it explained with another meaning?
agreed , hedonism is a perfect term for it.I did get a good laugh out of the self-indulgent hedonism bot on futurama that looked like some ceasor melted to his chair.
This is also one of the reasons i would love to find time to start learning Latin again, as honestly Reading Faust in its origional form is far superior to any translation so i imagine the same would be true for these works of which my latin couldnt even get near,
I always like to draw a distinction between the pornographic and the erotic. Pornography is a much overused term in this day and age , Perhaps i am using an antiquated meaning of pornography , though i like to use it when refering to things that are slightly edgy and made to be sensational.
latin is indeed a very rich language , though i argue the point that these were vulgarities , as well tastes change and only now do we see them as vulgarities. many may have been vulgarities , though i admit to not being having the widest grasp of roman culture so look forward to corection , i assume many of them were endering terms that only now apear to us as vulgar
Indeed and no problems , Apple has been rather good in returning changes and abiding by the license, I have used konqueror for a good while now as a browser and its wonderfull to see how far it has come (please for the love of god someone make some mouse gestures for it ). http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/webcore/ if your intrested that is the khtml webcore avaliable under the lgpl , also if you click around the apple dev site you will find a few other projects apple has contributed back;)
Anciant pornography is less likely to show in literary work and far more likely to be done in paint as often has been the case.
We have plenty of examples of this, we do have a fair bit of background from many already avaiable anciant greek and roman works as to the culture of morality revolving around sexual attitudes back then.
These works are more likely to be a boon to the study of the more esoteric areas of the cultures , not that i dont doubt we will find some works relating to the sexuality of the cultures , This is by far in a way not a main area of study.
Though you are right that eroticism has driven many technoligies , but this is more of particular note in more represed cultures, as the current theorys go the anciant Greek and (earlyer) anciant Roman society were far less prudish about their bodys then we tend to be nowadays so pornography would be far less prolific as it tends to thrive where sexuality is less open.
This , amongst other reasons why i use OS X. I am a strong proponet of the GNU philosophy in many ways,and use linux on my older ppc Macs and x86 , however on my main desktops ( and eMac and a mac mini) OS X is staying put for the time being. IIRC all changes apple made to khtml were returned to the khtml team(Abiding by the GNU GPL) and konqueror has really improved because of it.
The only reason i still use firefox on mac and linux are the extensions(adblock, mouse gestures ) i realy couldnt do without.
If you want a truely free A/V soloution for Linux , OS X , BSD , WIndows (and many more im sure) then ClamAV is avaliable.. many difrent forms and frontends are out there for your conveniance
I find Khtml renders far quicker than gecko , however gecko still has renders slightly better. It dosn't need to use the gpu , it does because it can and only good has come from it. x.org supports composite rendering and Projects such as cairo are bringing this to the FreeDesktop world and all the eye candy that comes with it , simple reason is that you can get the eyecandy with far less strain than without a gpu. Plus in the mac world most macs now have the ability to do this comfertably so there is no reason not to support it .
Being from scotland and living in germany i recived a fair bit of culture shock in a simmilar regaurd.In the part of Germany i live (Mecklenburg-vorpommern), people are alot colder and more hurried i find.
Personly im used to everybody holding open doors in shops(people here tend to just wait if they are stuck behind you or push past , This is not bad manners here , its just how people operate ) , old ladys talking to me at bus stops and the like.Not that people dont have manners here , they are just rather difrent , for example im used to walking into a place waving and saying hi to everyone , where as here it's customery to shake everyones hand and say "Hallo , gutten tag" or simmilar individualy, and everyone in places such as doctors surgerys will always say hello to everyone and everyone responds.
So many simmilaritys , yet so much variety , This is honestly why i love to travel and have freinds from difrent parts of the world .
Which begs the question as to why you attacked instead of debated. Really you cheapen your point by resorting to such cheap insults. An amicable soloution is far better , sure you may have a valid point as in your origional post on this subject but it was phrased in such a way that any regular (and since you have a karma bonus i assume you are ) reader knows will incite harsh comebacks.
There is nothing wrong with showing your belifes , I am very much pro GNU, Mac , Unix,linux etc so perhaps I have an easier time here as my views fit in, If your pro windows don't be afraid to show it and arguze your points , but please refrain from insulting everyone else while you do it.
"Loose some of your hate for windows, and you might just get to take advantage of all this tasty new technology" ? That is a rather moot point , I make no comment either way about windows but couldn't they take advantage of this tech with for example "Linux" or "Solaris" or "FreeBSD" or....I think you catch my drift.
Anti-windows Bias is strong here granted alot of folks are on a quest to bring free-software to the masses(me included) , Though i find alot of pro-windows bias here also and they also think they are on a crusade to educate the mass's how windows is not that bad.The pendulum swings both ways
Have to call you on that one,Gnome and KDE will run comfertably on low end systems and if you dont want the bloat then dont install it. I understand your point however i belive what your thinking about is the default install of KDE or Gnome that comes with alot of distros. Gnome and KDE can be rather efficent if done properly. Also if you really can't stand the bloat , a default install of Xfce is rather clean not to mention other window managers such as fluxbox.
Fair enough the default is what most people see , however this is not the fault of the KDE devs/gnome devs or linux . With linux and Xfree you dont have to install these things,with windows you have very little other option. Also if you take a little time with KDE or gnome i think you can find yourself with a rather homogeneous enviroment. I use linux as i love the freedom it allows me in deciding how i want my system , and i assure you i can have a wonderfull Desktop enviroment on linux that would run comfertably on very old machines and be homogenous to my needs
Oh it does , it demostraits the talent to buy shares of IBM/AMD/Intel with your wages then program a procesor hog so people upgrade *Cough conspiracy theory cough*
I have to disagree,it was great . It had a wonderfull comedy vent and i thourghly enjoy whatching it. Hitchikers was a radio play first , the book was an adaptation of a radioplay if you'll remember, and the TV show was a rather faitfull adaptation of the radio play not the book the book was also an adaptation of the radio play , however the book was less faithfull to the play.
Honestly,I just think that is an excuse for a lack of testing. Cheats should be found with good testing and balance should also be achived- I dont think you understand me , i said it shouldn't be needed , not that it wasn't... And Dammed if i am going to accept a car that requires patches or any other complex piece of machinery or electronics and i dont see why software should get any special dispensation.. Remembering the incident with the pentium and the faulty fpu , A procesor is as complex as any game in its design...Software has the excuse that it can be patched thus large companys use that as an excuse that it is resonible to sell us unfinished products.. fair enough on small scale development or something as complex as an OS , but a Game has no excuse except bar maybe for supporting new hardware or adding new levels and this really is no issue on a console
;) obviously I'm far more skilled at being AnNoYiNg than you are.. I must admit though ive only been to finland once , and most of the Finns i know are ex-pats , Perhaps its the weather
One of the main reasons i love console Games is the total lack of patches. When you buy a game for a console you expect a finished , polished product that you don't need to worry about lock-ups or crashs or anything , now im aware some slip out and they are rare (most of them dont hinder gameplay but give us something amusing to do when were bored, ala jumping through the level and walking around in nothing). This is one of the many things i love about console games , let us hope this trend does not continue...
seriously i have many freinds from Finland , and i say this witht he greatest of affection,, most of them do tend to have quite a temper(well all the Finns i know) if you push the right buttons. Honestly the finnish reputation for being cold is highly undeserved if my experiance is anything to go by
Is this the first ever slashdot "EVIL DOERS" line-up that dos'nt include SCO or Microsoft. Ok seriously though , i agree totaly. he is only human , who here can honestly say they havn't at one point Overreacted, gotten a little greedy , lost our tempers or something that could be described as immoral(against our own morality),To use a really tierd clech here "Then be my guest and start the rock hurling"
you could do that now and for a hell of alot less than these new chips will cost if your willing to use tech thats a few years old , the athlon-M is not that expensive and neither are twin socket -Socket A motherboards.
Im rather sure twin 2000+ chips , a duel motherboard and some extra ram will still be less than half the price of one of those and would allow you to burn a dvd , and do whatever else you feel like doing .
I agree totaly,Rushing things out of the door is possibly the worst thing any games publisher can do , it turns potential masterpieces into Disasters (ofcourse too much development time and you can end up with a Daikatana). on the part of VO , I think i mean to include all audio , such as VA/O ambiant and music.some of my fondest gameing memorys are acompinied by a tune (Legend of zelda , Super Mario bros , Doom, Pac man even) Its part of what turns a game from good to a classic(Gameplay 1st , Style second(Design not graphics) and audio).Granted Great Gameplay can trump the other two , however myself looking over my list of all time faviourit games , they were excelent in all three of those areas
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jeesh , people i will say this for the last time , I am not saying that it wasn't needed I am saying it shouldn't be , and no im not being unresonible.
Can you name any other thing in the world that you would pay for if you were near 100% sure that it was going to be found to be broken in some way(new not second hand).
A procesor as i used in a previous example is every bit as complex , but how often do we hear about faulty units being shipped or quirks in the procesors computational units that need balancing . MMO or even just regular online games are given far too much slack , When i buy something that has gone Gold as it were and is not in beta testing , i expect a finished product.
I stand corrected , although i didn't actualy mean to imply it was of roman descent , i acidently did .
i speak next to no anciant greek , but does porneia have any other meanings as im sure i have heard it explained with another meaning?
agreed , hedonism is a perfect term for it .I did get a good laugh out of the self-indulgent hedonism bot on futurama that looked like some ceasor melted to his chair.
This is also one of the reasons i would love to find time to start learning Latin again, as honestly Reading Faust in its origional form is far superior to any translation so i imagine the same would be true for these works of which my latin couldnt even get near,
I always like to draw a distinction between the pornographic and the erotic .
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Pornography is a much overused term in this day and age , Perhaps i am using an antiquated meaning of pornography , though i like to use it when refering to things that are slightly edgy and made to be sensational.
latin is indeed a very rich language , though i argue the point that these were vulgarities , as well tastes change and only now do we see them as vulgarities
many may have been vulgarities , though i admit to not being having the widest grasp of roman culture so look forward to corection , i assume many of them were endering terms that only now apear to us as vulgar
Indeed and no problems , Apple has been rather good in returning changes and abiding by the license, I have used konqueror for a good while now as a browser and its wonderfull to see how far it has come (please for the love of god someone make some mouse gestures for it ) .e / if your intrested that is the khtml webcore avaliable under the lgpl , also if you click around the apple dev site you will find a few other projects apple has contributed back ;)
http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/webcor
Anciant pornography is less likely to show in literary work and far more likely to be done in paint as often has been the case .
We have plenty of examples of this, we do have a fair bit of background from many already avaiable anciant greek and roman works as to the culture of morality revolving around sexual attitudes back then.
These works are more likely to be a boon to the study of the more esoteric areas of the cultures , not that i dont doubt we will find some works relating to the sexuality of the cultures , This is by far in a way not a main area of study.
Though you are right that eroticism has driven many technoligies , but this is more of particular note in more represed cultures, as the current theorys go the anciant Greek and (earlyer) anciant Roman society were far less prudish about their bodys then we tend to be nowadays so pornography would be far less prolific as it tends to thrive where sexuality is less open.
This , amongst other reasons why i use OS X . ,and use linux on my older ppc Macs and x86 , however on my main desktops ( and eMac and a mac mini) OS X is staying put for the time being. .
I am a strong proponet of the GNU philosophy in many ways
IIRC all changes apple made to khtml were returned to the khtml team(Abiding by the GNU GPL) and konqueror has really improved because of it
The only reason i still use firefox on mac and linux are the extensions(adblock, mouse gestures ) i realy couldnt do without.
If you want a truely free A/V soloution for Linux , OS X , BSD , WIndows (and many more im sure) then ClamAV is avaliable.. many difrent forms and frontends are out there for your conveniance
I find Khtml renders far quicker than gecko , however gecko still has renders slightly better.
It dosn't need to use the gpu , it does because it can and only good has come from it.
x.org supports composite rendering and Projects such as cairo are bringing this to the FreeDesktop world and all the eye candy that comes with it , simple reason is that you can get the eyecandy with far less strain than without a gpu.
Plus in the mac world most macs now have the ability to do this comfertably so there is no reason not to support it .
Being from scotland and living in germany i recived a fair bit of culture shock in a simmilar regaurd.In the part of Germany i live (Mecklenburg-vorpommern), people are alot colder and more hurried i find .
.Not that people dont have manners here , they are just rather difrent , for example im used to walking into a place waving and saying hi to everyone , where as here it's customery to shake everyones hand and say "Hallo , gutten tag" or simmilar individualy, and everyone in places such as doctors surgerys will always say hello to everyone and everyone responds .
Personly im used to everybody holding open doors in shops(people here tend to just wait if they are stuck behind you or push past , This is not bad manners here , its just how people operate ) , old ladys talking to me at bus stops and the like
So many simmilaritys , yet so much variety , This is honestly why i love to travel and have freinds from difrent parts of the world .
Which begs the question as to why you attacked instead of debated. .
,linux etc so perhaps I have an easier time here as my views fit in, If your pro windows don't be afraid to show it and arguze your points , but please refrain from insulting everyone else while you do it.
Really you cheapen your point by resorting to such cheap insults.
An amicable soloution is far better , sure you may have a valid point as in your origional post on this subject but it was phrased in such a way that any regular (and since you have a karma bonus i assume you are ) reader knows will incite harsh comebacks
There is nothing wrong with showing your belifes , I am very much pro GNU, Mac , Unix
"Loose some of your hate for windows, and you might just get to take advantage of all this tasty new technology" .
.The pendulum swings both ways
? That is a rather moot point , I make no comment either way about windows but couldn't they take advantage of this tech with for example "Linux" or "Solaris" or "FreeBSD" or....I think you catch my drift
Anti-windows Bias is strong here granted alot of folks are on a quest to bring free-software to the masses(me included) , Though i find alot of pro-windows bias here also and they also think they are on a crusade to educate the mass's how windows is not that bad
Have to call you on that one ,Gnome and KDE will run comfertably on low end systems and if you dont want the bloat then dont install it.
/gnome devs or linux . With linux and Xfree you dont have to install these things ,with windows you have very little other option. .
I understand your point however i belive what your thinking about is the default install of KDE or Gnome that comes with alot of distros.
Gnome and KDE can be rather efficent if done properly. Also if you really can't stand the bloat , a default install of Xfce is rather clean not to mention other window managers such as fluxbox.
Fair enough the default is what most people see , however this is not the fault of the KDE devs
Also if you take a little time with KDE or gnome i think you can find yourself with a rather homogeneous enviroment
I use linux as i love the freedom it allows me in deciding how i want my system , and i assure you i can have a wonderfull Desktop enviroment on linux that would run comfertably on very old machines and be homogenous to my needs
Oh it does , it demostraits the talent to buy shares of IBM/AMD/Intel with your wages then program a procesor hog so people upgrade *Cough conspiracy theory cough*
I have to disagree ,it was great . It had a wonderfull comedy vent and i thourghly enjoy whatching it.
Hitchikers was a radio play first , the book was an adaptation of a radioplay if you'll remember, and the TV show was a rather faitfull adaptation of the radio play not the book the book was also an adaptation of the radio play , however the book was less faithfull to the play.
Honestly ,I just think that is an excuse for a lack of testing. ...Software has the excuse that it can be patched thus large companys use that as an excuse that it is resonible to sell us unfinished products.. fair enough on small scale development or something as complex as an OS , but a Game has no excuse except bar maybe for supporting new hardware or adding new levels and this really is no issue on a console
Cheats should be found with good testing and balance should also be achived-
I dont think you understand me , i said it shouldn't be needed , not that it wasn't...
And Dammed if i am going to accept a car that requires patches or any other complex piece of machinery or electronics and i dont see why software should get any special dispensation..
Remembering the incident with the pentium and the faulty fpu , A procesor is as complex as any game in its design
Maybe im a tad psychotic but , whats not to laugh at when you have vicious animals poisoning someone :D
;) obviously I'm far more skilled at being AnNoYiNg than you are..
I must admit though ive only been to finland once , and most of the Finns i know are ex-pats , Perhaps its the weather
I didnt say the patch wasn't needed , i am saying it shouldnt of been
One of the main reasons i love console Games is the total lack of patches .
When you buy a game for a console you expect a finished , polished product that you don't need to worry about lock-ups or crashs or anything , now im aware some slip out and they are rare (most of them dont hinder gameplay but give us something amusing to do when were bored, ala jumping through the level and walking around in nothing).
This is one of the many things i love about console games , let us hope this trend does not continue...
seriously i have many freinds from Finland , and i say this witht he greatest of affection ,, most of them do tend to have quite a temper(well all the Finns i know) if you push the right buttons.
Honestly the finnish reputation for being cold is highly undeserved if my experiance is anything to go by
Is this the first ever slashdot "EVIL DOERS" line-up that dos'nt include SCO or Microsoft. . ,To use a really tierd clech here "Then be my guest and start the rock hurling"
Ok seriously though , i agree totaly
he is only human , who here can honestly say they havn't at one point Overreacted, gotten a little greedy , lost our tempers or something that could be described as immoral(against our own morality)
you could do that now and for a hell of alot less than these new chips will cost if your willing to use tech thats a few years old , the athlon-M is not that expensive and neither are twin socket -Socket A motherboards .
Im rather sure twin 2000+ chips , a duel motherboard and some extra ram will still be less than half the price of one of those and would allow you to burn a dvd , and do whatever else you feel like doing .
I read that as "SCO has finaly a 10 IQ"
I agree totaly ,Rushing things out of the door is possibly the worst thing any games publisher can do , it turns potential masterpieces into Disasters (ofcourse too much development time and you can end up with a Daikatana).
on the part of VO , I think i mean to include all audio , such as VA/O ambiant and music.some of my fondest gameing memorys are acompinied by a tune (Legend of zelda , Super Mario bros , Doom, Pac man even) Its part of what turns a game from good to a classic(Gameplay 1st , Style second(Design not graphics) and audio).Granted Great Gameplay can trump the other two , however myself looking over my list of all time faviourit games , they were excelent in all three of those areas