Not that I disagree with the stability in general, Windows has gotten an order of magnitude better. (I remember when the marketing droid proudly exclaimed that they removed 213 instances that required reboots in Windows 2000 to make a better environment and my friend stood up and pointed out that Linux only really has 1 instance involving a kernel update). However, if your windows boxes aren't rebooting more often then your linux boxes then you are either lying or not patching. I swear to god its at least once or twice a week that I am rebooting for patches at work...and god forbid you do a clean install, the next 3 days will be spent rebooting as SMS pushes all of its patches in order on you.
As far as the "lie" calling that behavior 'normal windows' may not be 100% accurate...lets call it 'frequent behaviors and known issues that anyone not being paid to support windows doesn't like to deal with or explain the details to someone who probably won't understand the complaint or they would have fixed it themselves' I think 'normal windows' is a much easier way to describe that. I would point out that MS marketing excitedly pointed out that with Small Business Server and Terminal Services "You can now get all those dusty 486s out and still make them useful". I stood up and asked rather interested "There will be a Terminal Services Client for older OSs?" and he explained how they were dead and unsupported...so I asked "So, you expect everyone here to pull out the 486 and install a version of Windows that has minimum system requirements well above a 486's capabilites and make them useful?" I think something in his brain short circuited because you could see the terror and how quickly he moved on to another subject as everyone there looked at me, had the little light bulbs flip on, and started nodding and muttering.
The problem with the pointing out of only certain nations apply leads to two problems really. What about all of the prisoners in Gitmo and the other secret camps (that the POTUS admitted to) that are from signing nations? Second, it is completely moronic and totally against everything America stands for to go after the letter of the law as justification rather than the spirit of the law of not doing patently bad shit. Innocent until proven guilty is a core value, and this attempt to bypass the court system only means they have a crappy chance of proving some guilt. They would be FAR better to keep this all on the up and up, normal court, no legal wrangling, no torture, and release those who are not found guilty (if they really are guilty, we will get them again later) Accidentally releasing a few that we couldn't really pin is FAR better than generating 10 more for every innocent we screw. Gitmo, torture, and secret prisons is a disgusting blemish on us, and makes for GREAT recruiting for anyone regardless if they are just protestors, or extremists recruiting bombers. Personally I think if they are found guilty we should make our best effort to return them to their home country for punishment...the prefered method being by using large catapults lined up on the coast. Those who are found innocent should be given public appologies and some restitution and returned home in a much better manner.
Don't bring up the anti-American thing unless you really understand what it means to be American. The bullshit we have now with the spying on the populace, secret camps, PATRIOT Act and whatnot is unbelievably unamerican. Go stand in the National Archives...read the documents...not just the main ones everyone likes to mention...but the letters, the quotes. Read what those men had to say when they did what they had to do. When they commited their act of treason and terrorism against the crown. Read it and think about the strength of conviction they had, their words are unbelievably powerful and really were the beacon on the hill. Think about the lands that were crushed under British imperialism (Iraq, Iran, India, Africa) and think about where we would be if the revolution never happened.
As far as democracy...given all of the problems in our current election system...well...I would say the jury is out, but congress critters have fought tooth and nail to prevent any kind of investigation and reform...so...left right or other...if they are all fighting so hard to stop the populace from doing anything about it...well...not looking good on their part. (Hint: There are republicans that are attacking the voting system too, but the media likes to spin it as whiney lefties losing elections to divide and conquer)
As citizens they certainly are, however, as officials not so much. The judge that said he disagrees with evolution but ruled against the forcing ID in schools nonsense is stating his opinion while doing his job correctly. He was acting impartially to do his job while stating his opinion separately, and the right wingers that put him in place cringed when they realized that their hand picked pro evolution judge would actually fill his post with integrity to the position and not let his personal opinions sway his judgements. The AG here is doing more than trying to just state his personal opinion, he acting in an official capacity that is directly counter to what the constitution says. Unfortunately that is pretty much par for the course for this administration. Freedom of speech zones, warrentless wiretaps, spy on your neighbor programs (Total Information Awareness renamed Terrorist Information Awareness), warrentless mail searches, and one of my personal favorites eminent domain.
As a side note, the right wing bitching about "activist judges" is laughable when they put in their own version trying to do the same rather than fill the position with someone impartial. I wish I remembered that judges name but he definetly deserves a shiney gold star for his actions.
Notice what department it came from. In fact, I found your post doing a quick search since I know hardly anyone actually reads the article and had to make sure at least someone pointed out the dangling "clock". I am however a little nervous about setting the alarm function...not sure I wanna know what happens when it "goes off".
I agree with your point, but just to be fair if someone asked me that question I wouldn't assume they meant someone who was absolutely clueless. I mean most of us would say "I don't know anything about cars" yet are quite capable of competently operating one. 9 times out of 10 when I am getting pulled away from my normal work to help someone with their computer its because shoddy or over complicated software is acting strangely. Its not terribly different from wanting to take your car into the shop when the radio starts changing channels randomly and all your "dummy lights" start flashing (disregarding the irony of calling them dummy lights in a thread about how only IT is that condescending).
I think a large part of it comes from users not having troubleshooting experience and being afraid to work out their own problems for fear of making it worse and having the IT department drag their bloody corpse through the cube farm as an example. Given the state of modern computing and security it is FAR better for them to call for help than to fix it themselves. I would much rather be called for a 10 minute trivial fix than a 5 hour troubleshooting extravaganza because they decided to muck with every possible setting and the security of the OS allowed them to.
Ultimately we need more metric tracking. What users/departments call for the same problems at what frequency. You will learn who in the organization is learning, and who is just being a helpless anchor and can adjust your resources accordingly.
I am curious as to how you assert that Rap affects Rock (not that I don't agree in certain cases) without examining if it really is Rap affecting Rock or Rock affecting Rap. Given that Rock has been a much larger influence for a longer period, I would argue that Rock has influenced Rap more than Rap has influenced Rock. The only real argument you could have to say Rap was the primary influence is to maintain a Rock purist attitude. Given that the whole Rap/Hip Hop genre has been heavily sampling, borrowing, and sometimes outright stealing from the Rock community it only makes sense that more Rock/Hip Hop mixed music would start to show up. I don't believe Hip Hop is influencial to other genres, it is popular, but its very nature is influenced by other genres. Just my 2 cents:)
I am done. It is obvious you are totally incapable of any discussion beyond screaming and crying about evil Republicans and stupid details. I don't feel like going back and opening the document again, but the gist was they were quoting military budget prices out of things that *surprise* weren't military budget documents, they were other books about how the military spends too much. You say you don't vote party lines and then cry how all Republicans are evil and scum. You sir are a moron. You say stupid shit like "my boy Negroponte"...oh yes that is right...party line team voters don't understand that you don't have to support everyone in a party. I realize that is a tad confusing to you, but its true, there really are still Republicans that aren't right wing religious fanatics. Just FYI, the people that make headline news aren't the only republicans in the world. There are quite a few at local and state government levels that aren't part of the national shenannagins. Just like there are dems at local levels that aren't whiney double talking shits. You wanna be pissed...be pissed at the Democrats that voted for the war and are now trying to back out now that its not going well. The majority up on capitol hill just make policy to fill their own coffers regardless of what party they claim. The reason they claim parties is to get idiot fanatics like you to team vote them in and allow them to keep the populace divided screaming about how your team sucks more than my team, and your team is evil and stupid, so the people are too busy screaming stupid shit at eachother to notice they are being fucked from above. It keeps anyone from popping up in the middle of the road with an agenda of positive change...anyone middle gets attacked by the left as being an evil murderer republican and the right crucifies them for being a godless heathen liberal. I'm not fond of where we are right now, but you have some delusional fantasy where I am to blame for the corrupt asshats that call themselves Republicans.
However, you have proved my original point better than I could have myself. That there is a horde of irrational screaming lefties around here that would rather "murder a Republican" and "military is evil" than ever look at the individuals responsible and work with people from both parties who haven't been total fuckups to try and get us back on track.
You really need to work on your interpersonal skills as well as your reading comprehension skills. I said there was fact in the paper. My point when I said YOU ignore things is that YOU ignored them, not that the paper did. I am well aware that the paper agreed with many of my assertions. I am also aware that the paper cited rather dubious sources when it came to quoting numbers such as the cost of training a pilot. Further you seem to have a hard time with independent thought. It is indeed possible to agree with parts of a given paper and not all of it. That doesn't negate the fact that a large portion of it is anti military fluff.
You also seem to be caught up on the team voting concept that has put us in the shitty boat we are in. "If you vote *Team X* then you are evil" is the most ignorant trite. If you vote, vote the issues. I happen to agree with a great number of Republicans who maintain those tenets that you say are gone, I also happen to agree with a great number of Democrats on various issues too. So your little rants about how party X is evil is just stupid and ignorant. The Republicans managed to take the control they had going into the Bush era because the Democrats were the biggest spending hypocritical pieces of corrupt shit...guess what, power corrupts...so a large chunk of the current PEOPLE have been corrupted. Not all of them left for the libertarian party...some of them actually have plans on getting elected. Some of them run as Democrats, some as Republicans, and as long as morons like you team vote and rant about entire parties you just make the problem worse. If you are too blind to see that is what the corrupt ones want then that is your problem. By falling into line and blaming entire parties for stupid shit like this it totally absolves them of personal responsibility and allows party line media spin and other such nonsense to sway folks like you into kneejerk voting.
So you go back to voting your party lines so we can get a new crop of corrupted shits and continue the cycle. I will actually follow candidates and vote regardless of party based on who is likely to not fuck us. Or did you forget that alot of the bullshit that is coming back to bite us now was built up on the Democratic watch. COPA, DMCA, the list goes on...it comes from asshats party line voting instead of researching issues.
I did read it. It was a nice piece of fluff interspersed with facts. You totally ignored the fact that military spending is probably 10x what it should be at due to it being forced to operate outside of the normal economy. If the military spending was allowed to operate with the economy the costs of military spending would be considerably smaller. Nevermind the vague assertions of ammounts spent with questionable reference sources that the paper uses to prove that investments in other areas would have paid off more. The military is being used to siphon tax dollars into private defense sector firms.
Incidentally the support and defend thing isn't marketing fluff that is the purpose. The use of the military is entirely different, and is influenced by kneejerk uninformed voters more than any military decision. The purpose of lobbyists is to influence government contracts to fill the coffers of defense sector companies, not the military.
However, instead of having any meaninful discussion, you assert that I couldn't possibly do that, that you are absolutely correct in all regards, and that because I disagree with your linked paper that I didn't read it. Also right after it recaps what broken window fallacy is, it explains that the military isn't a producer...if you read my previous post you would notice I said that. Instead you pick out a few stupid lines to quote and go on about how ignorant I am. I guess I shouldn't expect more from someone with a sig like yours. FYI Republicans want small government, less intrusions on the people, less government spending. What we have now calling themselves Republicans aren't that at all. But I guess if you knew what you were talking about you would know that already right?
For what its worth... There is the practice of defensive patenting. I certainly can't say for sure that is what they are doing, but imagine what would happen if they didn't patent it and some pharm lab did. You really can't cry prior art to save it because it would still lead to an extensive and expensive court battle that would drag on for ages and keep the technology down. Since, like you said, that is ultimately what a pharm company is likely to do anyways since they don't want a cure it would be an automatic win for their cause anyways. If the pharm company can patent it, or tie it up in legal stuff for a decade, they win regardless.
I am MUCH more trusting of these university research guys than some corporate pharm lab research guys as far as doing the right thing with the patent. Hopefully it won't be misplaced, but lets not jump to conclusions.
It is not a broken window fallacy because the purpose of the military is not to produce anything. If the military was to be designated a producer then it would be absolutely horrific efficiency you are right. Given that those wonderful public officials elected by the populace have deemed it important to have a qualified parts list that forces the military to only but from certain manufacturers granting them an insane monopoly power to sell to the military at absolutely uncompetitive prices based on the congressional buddy system. For example a $3 fiber connector costs the military around $20, and a simple hammer that you could purchase from walmart costs around $60. So military spending is grossly inflated by being forced to buy from the select few on that list. If the military was allowed to purchase from other sources then the numbers involved would be drastically reduced. So any nonsense about how they don't contribute because of the cost/return is grossly disproportionate anyways. These costs go on like this because again, the military is not a economic producer, the goal of the military is to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
Now, I'm not making any argument one way or the other towards how well its stated goal is being met here. The only fallacy here is blaming the military for the acts of the politicians. The grotesque spending is a byproduct of that horrific parts list, and if you talk to almost anyone in the military responsible for any kind of purchasing they will be able to explain to you at length how god awful of an idea it is. As far as the whole blame the military for killing, once again, why not lay the blame where it belongs, at the elected officials and ultimately the public that put them there or didn't demand their resignation. Blaming the military is a stupid attempt to pass off responsibility by citizens who should have probably been a little more active. We can go back and forth until we are blue in the face about how the government won't listen to the populace, but I seem to remember a handful of guys that made their government listen. Good folks too, wrote a few really good papers...you can go see them in the National Archives until the current administration has them recalled for redacting. Blame the gun not the trigger man right?
Now just for arguments sake...would you care to explain to me everything that never got invented because of military spending? I mean..can you give specific examples of the uninvented things that makes my point so ridiculous? Or maybe your point is completely ridiculous for attempting to quantify uninvented things against actual expenditures. While we are at it, lets pretend that we are having this discussion in an alien language that the military failed to defeat because of lack of funding. By all means, explain to me how to think it through when pondering uninvented items to use in comparison.
Thank you. I think its funny I got modded down so harshly. I mean DARPAnet was a jingoistic plot to destroy the world right? This is why the ultra left/right piss me off so much, they use the same stupid blind and moronic crap every time, flinging stupid shit back and forth and making anyone that doesn't agree 100% look like a loony from the other camp.
No. Lefty crybabies support crying about how the only way jingoistic right-wingers will spend money is promising to kill people and how lefties only support beneficial research. Sane indivudals who are largely responsible for the actual research are generally much more middle minded and see the benefits of doing the research in more aspects than some stupid political mudslinging fest. Just FYI, in reality there are people who lean left and lean right who are able to disagree and compromise without resorting to stupid shit like crying about how the military is a bunch of evil murders and only want to kill people. The problem is the ultra left and ultra right do such a wonderful job of screwing things up something fierce to prevent anything meaningful from getting done, because if you disagree with anything from either camp you are obviously a loonatic from the other camp.
In the meantime you can go on about how all the humanitarian aid stuff the military does is just a plot to cover up mass murders. There were significant advances in aviation from the whole Berlin airlift thing which was an unprecedented feat of aviation and saved lots of lives. Being first responders to tsunamis, hurricanes, etc, etc...its all just secret training we got by bombing levies and setting off underwater nuclear bombs right?
I can't believe this trite got modded up as insightful. Quit crying. Turn off your computer. Stop using your car. Don't ever fly commercial flight. You had better not ever check the weather channel. And you had absolutely better not ever go to a doctor for anything, definitely any sort of trauma injury. Because your little Department of Attack mindless left crybaby nonsense is who brought major advances in all of those areas. In fact, it wasn't to long ago that there was a story here about medicine and how the pharm companies just develop symptom treatments to bleed everyone for money, while the military research develops cures and vaccines because they are more interested in fixing the problem quickly.
I swear to God, its every few stories someone makes some moronic comment about the military on here and the sheep flock to it. If you want to cry about a group cry about the elected body that controls the military. Once again I would like to thank you for helping to stop progress and allow the far right to keep a tight grip by making anyone left of their agenda look stupid.
What about the placebo effect for example? The doctor lies to the patient, but it can benefit the patient. There are lots of situations like this. What about when you tell the wounded soldier "It isn't bad". These are lies, but are they wrong? There have been tons of cases where misrepresenting the threat something poses leads to people taking a more active role in defending themselves from the threat. In relation to politics, threats to freedom should always be oversold to ensure that they will be defended against. In relation to atrocities (and to invoke Godwin's law just for fun) there were Nazi soldiers who killed themselves when they found out they had been washing with dead jew brand soap. The atrocity shouldn't be covered up, but I think given that most Nazi soldiers had no idea what was going on, that it may have been better for them to not have ever known about the soap. Even Santa and the Easter Bunny are lies (and for a fun poke, I can see a relation to a fat guy giving out presents on the representation of the J-mans bday, but what the hell does a egg laying bunny have to do with him coming back from the dead?)
I don't think the ends always justify the means, but it isn't always a clear cut line.
Unfortunately that tends to be "We are going to lose, but don't know it" speak. I wonder how many politicians have been elected on the platform of "We don't have to lie because we are better" great...and you also aren't elected so your policy of not lying really means about squat because the guy who is telling all the lies is the 'decider'. Not that I really advocate lying here, just playing devil's advocate a bit.
Again I think you took my cynical view of this video game nonsense and my proposed solution too seriously. The "just a video game" thing is in an entirely different world from drugs and prostitution. If I want to protect my children from the influence of sex, violence, whatever in a video game, as a parent all I have to do is push the button on the TV labled power. Its an insult to have legislators involved in this at all since I already have absolute control just by being a parent who actually parents. Drugs and prostitution is a much different problem and there is no "off" button that I can push to keep it out of my life.
I never said alcohol didn't have negative effects, but the same goes with something like marijuana. The effects are relatively minimal and easily mitigated through responsible use. However, I don't really believe there is a 'responsible use' scenario for crack or meth or any number of other drugs. I also never said that simply making it criminal is the best solution, in fact many other places have proven there are better ways of handling removing such elements from society. Beyond the obvious problems of spread of disease, and the psychological issues that go along with prostitution, the whole "sex worker" thing amuses the hell out of me. What value does "sex worker" add to society? I love how they parade around at these little conventions, form their little trade groups, and pretend like its a legitimate occupation and isn't just the epitome of laziness or that their industry has any upstanding virtues. I have a friend that spent a year or so working at a porn store... That industry is sick, and degrading in more ways that can be described. I am certainly not puritanical about sex, but as soon as you add money to the mix, it without a doubt goes south. Some think the military is bad about promising an education, but the numbers are FAR better there, something like 1-5% of the girls who planned on using it to get through school ever do. The hooker with a heart of gold thing is pretty much restricted to hollywood.
1. You took something that was obviously nonsensical and chose to take offense to hookers being called criminals and how you should be able to enjoy whatever vice you want and how its hypocritical to talk about video game violence bans when you cant legally do the drugs you want and pick up hookers. There is no parallel and that is just a stupid point to make.
2. You keep insisting I am aggregating anything, again presumably to take as much offense to a nonsense comment as humanly possible and once again try to establish some strange moral highground when arguging about how your inability to do drugs and hookers is some terrible breech of your freedom. Just in case you aren't aware GTA is about thugs, low lifes, drug dealers, hookers, etc etc etc. Given that I was talking about a nonsense game that would parallel GTA it would only make sense to list the character types involved in GTA don't you think?
3. You have surely lost your mind. You are going to try to draw a moral equivalent between a girl selling her body and farmers growing produce? This again just shows a selfish goal of "I wanna do drugs and hookers regardless of consequence". You also try and drag prohibition into this using strange tangents. Prohibition is only related in that disallowed the sale of booze, given that the act of buying a bottle of your favorite stuff doesn't really have a psychological or physiological effect its pretty different then selling your body. With the exception of a select few, the vast majority of street drugs have a huge negative impact on society, and actually are closely related to prostitution, as it is one of the key factors involved in keeping the women in the business. Hooked on drugs? Can't get a job cuz your too strung out, here, take your pants off and Johnny here will give you your next hit. This is nothing new, this is how that has been run since the dawn of civilization. I don't view drugs or prostitution as some great moral thing, I view it simply as things that have large negative effects on society.
It is fairly difficult to show how violent video games have had a negative impact on society. Drugs and prostitution are terribly easy to show the negative impacts. So it blows my mind that in a discussion about video games you attempt to find some strange moral high ground and relate drugs and prostitution to video games, and then further to growing produce. So please do come back to reality.
1. Humor. Please look it up.
2. Given that in most places prostitution is illegal hookers and criminals are one in the same. So don't go bitching at me about aggregating anything
3. Your "supposedly benign" vice comment cracks me up as piss poor justification for getting your jollies of however you like at the expense of others while throwing up the blinders on anything that would potentially make your little vice look bad. So by all means...please ignore what the drug trade does...or even better...go look up trafficing in persons or the sex trade...I mean kidnapping girls and the like is totally ok as long as you can spend $10 to stick it in one right? Keeps costs down.
Some guy growing pot in his basement isn't even in the same league as a drug dealer. Quite frankly I see no problem in locking up meth dealers with the murderers, but putting pot smokers in jail is just dumb. So hookers and drugs aren't about political fights and freedoms, its about sick and twisted justifications of the abuse and exploitation of others for your own pleasures.
Let us think about speed delta for a moment. The concern isn't that they are coming up behind you, the concern is that they are cutting in front of you with 12 inches or less of clearance because they are dodging through traffic because everyone is traveling +-5 of the speed limit while they are going +25. So reducing your speed delta here actually is worse...because when they fly around you and lose control, hit the debris in the rode from a blown tire, hit the car in the road they didn't quite clear, whatever...the larger the speed delta the larger the distance between you when Mr. Speedfreak wraps himself around the telephone pole and the MORE time you have to react. I don't know many that react to people coming up behind them by slowing down. You want the gap between you to remain the largest as possible at all times in a situation like this. The faster they move past you the faster you are out of the risk zone of being too close to a moron on the road. Incidentally this is very closely related to the fact that most people have no concept of what "following distance" means...they think its 1 car length or some static distance, when it is actually supposed to be measured in time. There should be at least a 3 second gap between you and the car in front of you...at 10Mph that gap is a considerably shorter distance than it is at say 60Mph.
Apparently in a parallel universe. The people with really fast cars generally are the worst and most impatient shitheads on the road. In fact I can't count the number of times I have called 911 (I really enjoy passing them after they get pulled over with a huge ticket) because some dumbass in a ricer thinking he is the king of the road is racing his stupid ricer friend through congested traffic that is moving at 50-60 while they are dodging in and out at 110 because their small fast car can squeeze through and force everyone else on the road to mash on breaks, cause wrecks, and the standing waves. Further, I can't count the number of times I have seen perfectly smooth traffic, decent spacing, all completely shit canned because some moron in his little speed demon came dodging up back and forth flying through the traffic causing everyone to slow down and swerve.
People with fast cars like that tend to be terribly unpredictable, making it far safer to drive 5 under the speed limit (which in most places in town is 55) where you have a little more time to react to the moron doing 75 in a 55. In fact I love it when some assclown come zipping past me at 20 over the speed limit only to wind up at the same red light a whole car length ahead of me. Such a stupid assumption about people with fast cars drive better because they don't want to mess up their car makes be think that you have no clue what you are talking about and are just making up dumb excuses for your own wreckless driving. Why do sports cars cost more insurance wise...because they are more likely to be in wrecks! surprise! Here let me counter your insane guess with some more unfounded guesswork...maybe people with crappy cars drive better because they can't afford full coverage or a brand new car when they drive like morons and T-bone someone.
"How dare you stop at a legal red light and let me hit you doing 80!" -- Dane Cook
I always wondered about the infamous beating the hooker thing. I mean maybe it actually is a benefit to our society. I figure if you suddenly have all of these video game players deciding they should beat hookers (lets go ahead and assume, that all of those geek and average teens will be magically transformed into the thug teens that troll the streets looking for gangs to fight and hookers to beat) maybe just maybe it would discourage young american girls from being hookers. I mean really...as a hooker if your chances of being beaten to death are significantly increased by the release of a video game, I imagine it would discourage more girls from being hookers wouldn't it?
I propose the most violent video game ever "Street Cleaner" where the goal of the game is to dump as much cheap ammo into as many low lifes, thugs, hookers, criminals and other such things. We can really see if there is a real effect. Do more kids go out on vigilante runs? Are more kids discouraged from doing criminal things for fear of the increased vigilantes?
You have a very frightening understanding of copyright. The music industry likes indefinite copyright stuff because digital music is so easy to reproduce. It isn't doing its job well in that industry. However, say you spent the last 10 years of your life writing your masterpiece novel...genius work...publishers all over are clamoring for the rights. OOPS there is no copyright...guess your ass out...they just mass produce copies of your novel and not bother to pay you, they make millions, you get squat. Copyright and Patent laws are meant to grant the inventor/creator a temporary monopoly as a reward for being first to market. The problem is they have become less temporary and more vague and aren't doing a very good job at all. Or maybe you invented some brand new super widget technology, good thing there are no patents, Megacorp just takes your plans and mass produces Megacorp Widget 3000 while you get paid squat.
Military telephony has always been a bit of an issue, even more so on the tactical side. The concentrated efforts to make all of the telephony stuff work together kinda came a little too late.
Anyways...you have a duty to the world to find out what kind of porn! This is of huge historical importance! I mean...we need to know if the internet was shaped by good ol normie porn, or if it was shaped by something like goatse guy!
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Exactly. One would think that Australia or China has prior art for using phones upside down.
Not that I disagree with the stability in general, Windows has gotten an order of magnitude better. (I remember when the marketing droid proudly exclaimed that they removed 213 instances that required reboots in Windows 2000 to make a better environment and my friend stood up and pointed out that Linux only really has 1 instance involving a kernel update). However, if your windows boxes aren't rebooting more often then your linux boxes then you are either lying or not patching. I swear to god its at least once or twice a week that I am rebooting for patches at work...and god forbid you do a clean install, the next 3 days will be spent rebooting as SMS pushes all of its patches in order on you.
As far as the "lie" calling that behavior 'normal windows' may not be 100% accurate...lets call it 'frequent behaviors and known issues that anyone not being paid to support windows doesn't like to deal with or explain the details to someone who probably won't understand the complaint or they would have fixed it themselves' I think 'normal windows' is a much easier way to describe that. I would point out that MS marketing excitedly pointed out that with Small Business Server and Terminal Services "You can now get all those dusty 486s out and still make them useful". I stood up and asked rather interested "There will be a Terminal Services Client for older OSs?" and he explained how they were dead and unsupported...so I asked "So, you expect everyone here to pull out the 486 and install a version of Windows that has minimum system requirements well above a 486's capabilites and make them useful?" I think something in his brain short circuited because you could see the terror and how quickly he moved on to another subject as everyone there looked at me, had the little light bulbs flip on, and started nodding and muttering.
The problem with the pointing out of only certain nations apply leads to two problems really. What about all of the prisoners in Gitmo and the other secret camps (that the POTUS admitted to) that are from signing nations? Second, it is completely moronic and totally against everything America stands for to go after the letter of the law as justification rather than the spirit of the law of not doing patently bad shit. Innocent until proven guilty is a core value, and this attempt to bypass the court system only means they have a crappy chance of proving some guilt. They would be FAR better to keep this all on the up and up, normal court, no legal wrangling, no torture, and release those who are not found guilty (if they really are guilty, we will get them again later) Accidentally releasing a few that we couldn't really pin is FAR better than generating 10 more for every innocent we screw. Gitmo, torture, and secret prisons is a disgusting blemish on us, and makes for GREAT recruiting for anyone regardless if they are just protestors, or extremists recruiting bombers. Personally I think if they are found guilty we should make our best effort to return them to their home country for punishment...the prefered method being by using large catapults lined up on the coast. Those who are found innocent should be given public appologies and some restitution and returned home in a much better manner.
Don't bring up the anti-American thing unless you really understand what it means to be American. The bullshit we have now with the spying on the populace, secret camps, PATRIOT Act and whatnot is unbelievably unamerican. Go stand in the National Archives...read the documents...not just the main ones everyone likes to mention...but the letters, the quotes. Read what those men had to say when they did what they had to do. When they commited their act of treason and terrorism against the crown. Read it and think about the strength of conviction they had, their words are unbelievably powerful and really were the beacon on the hill. Think about the lands that were crushed under British imperialism (Iraq, Iran, India, Africa) and think about where we would be if the revolution never happened.
As far as democracy...given all of the problems in our current election system...well...I would say the jury is out, but congress critters have fought tooth and nail to prevent any kind of investigation and reform...so...left right or other...if they are all fighting so hard to stop the populace from doing anything about it...well...not looking good on their part. (Hint: There are republicans that are attacking the voting system too, but the media likes to spin it as whiney lefties losing elections to divide and conquer)
As citizens they certainly are, however, as officials not so much. The judge that said he disagrees with evolution but ruled against the forcing ID in schools nonsense is stating his opinion while doing his job correctly. He was acting impartially to do his job while stating his opinion separately, and the right wingers that put him in place cringed when they realized that their hand picked pro evolution judge would actually fill his post with integrity to the position and not let his personal opinions sway his judgements. The AG here is doing more than trying to just state his personal opinion, he acting in an official capacity that is directly counter to what the constitution says. Unfortunately that is pretty much par for the course for this administration. Freedom of speech zones, warrentless wiretaps, spy on your neighbor programs (Total Information Awareness renamed Terrorist Information Awareness), warrentless mail searches, and one of my personal favorites eminent domain.
As a side note, the right wing bitching about "activist judges" is laughable when they put in their own version trying to do the same rather than fill the position with someone impartial. I wish I remembered that judges name but he definetly deserves a shiney gold star for his actions.
Notice what department it came from. In fact, I found your post doing a quick search since I know hardly anyone actually reads the article and had to make sure at least someone pointed out the dangling "clock". I am however a little nervous about setting the alarm function...not sure I wanna know what happens when it "goes off".
I agree with your point, but just to be fair if someone asked me that question I wouldn't assume they meant someone who was absolutely clueless. I mean most of us would say "I don't know anything about cars" yet are quite capable of competently operating one. 9 times out of 10 when I am getting pulled away from my normal work to help someone with their computer its because shoddy or over complicated software is acting strangely. Its not terribly different from wanting to take your car into the shop when the radio starts changing channels randomly and all your "dummy lights" start flashing (disregarding the irony of calling them dummy lights in a thread about how only IT is that condescending).
I think a large part of it comes from users not having troubleshooting experience and being afraid to work out their own problems for fear of making it worse and having the IT department drag their bloody corpse through the cube farm as an example. Given the state of modern computing and security it is FAR better for them to call for help than to fix it themselves. I would much rather be called for a 10 minute trivial fix than a 5 hour troubleshooting extravaganza because they decided to muck with every possible setting and the security of the OS allowed them to.
Ultimately we need more metric tracking. What users/departments call for the same problems at what frequency. You will learn who in the organization is learning, and who is just being a helpless anchor and can adjust your resources accordingly.
I am curious as to how you assert that Rap affects Rock (not that I don't agree in certain cases) without examining if it really is Rap affecting Rock or Rock affecting Rap. Given that Rock has been a much larger influence for a longer period, I would argue that Rock has influenced Rap more than Rap has influenced Rock. The only real argument you could have to say Rap was the primary influence is to maintain a Rock purist attitude. Given that the whole Rap/Hip Hop genre has been heavily sampling, borrowing, and sometimes outright stealing from the Rock community it only makes sense that more Rock/Hip Hop mixed music would start to show up. I don't believe Hip Hop is influencial to other genres, it is popular, but its very nature is influenced by other genres. Just my 2 cents :)
I am done. It is obvious you are totally incapable of any discussion beyond screaming and crying about evil Republicans and stupid details. I don't feel like going back and opening the document again, but the gist was they were quoting military budget prices out of things that *surprise* weren't military budget documents, they were other books about how the military spends too much. You say you don't vote party lines and then cry how all Republicans are evil and scum. You sir are a moron. You say stupid shit like "my boy Negroponte"...oh yes that is right...party line team voters don't understand that you don't have to support everyone in a party. I realize that is a tad confusing to you, but its true, there really are still Republicans that aren't right wing religious fanatics. Just FYI, the people that make headline news aren't the only republicans in the world. There are quite a few at local and state government levels that aren't part of the national shenannagins. Just like there are dems at local levels that aren't whiney double talking shits. You wanna be pissed...be pissed at the Democrats that voted for the war and are now trying to back out now that its not going well. The majority up on capitol hill just make policy to fill their own coffers regardless of what party they claim. The reason they claim parties is to get idiot fanatics like you to team vote them in and allow them to keep the populace divided screaming about how your team sucks more than my team, and your team is evil and stupid, so the people are too busy screaming stupid shit at eachother to notice they are being fucked from above. It keeps anyone from popping up in the middle of the road with an agenda of positive change...anyone middle gets attacked by the left as being an evil murderer republican and the right crucifies them for being a godless heathen liberal. I'm not fond of where we are right now, but you have some delusional fantasy where I am to blame for the corrupt asshats that call themselves Republicans.
However, you have proved my original point better than I could have myself. That there is a horde of irrational screaming lefties around here that would rather "murder a Republican" and "military is evil" than ever look at the individuals responsible and work with people from both parties who haven't been total fuckups to try and get us back on track.
You really need to work on your interpersonal skills as well as your reading comprehension skills. I said there was fact in the paper. My point when I said YOU ignore things is that YOU ignored them, not that the paper did. I am well aware that the paper agreed with many of my assertions. I am also aware that the paper cited rather dubious sources when it came to quoting numbers such as the cost of training a pilot. Further you seem to have a hard time with independent thought. It is indeed possible to agree with parts of a given paper and not all of it. That doesn't negate the fact that a large portion of it is anti military fluff.
You also seem to be caught up on the team voting concept that has put us in the shitty boat we are in. "If you vote *Team X* then you are evil" is the most ignorant trite. If you vote, vote the issues. I happen to agree with a great number of Republicans who maintain those tenets that you say are gone, I also happen to agree with a great number of Democrats on various issues too. So your little rants about how party X is evil is just stupid and ignorant. The Republicans managed to take the control they had going into the Bush era because the Democrats were the biggest spending hypocritical pieces of corrupt shit...guess what, power corrupts...so a large chunk of the current PEOPLE have been corrupted. Not all of them left for the libertarian party...some of them actually have plans on getting elected. Some of them run as Democrats, some as Republicans, and as long as morons like you team vote and rant about entire parties you just make the problem worse. If you are too blind to see that is what the corrupt ones want then that is your problem. By falling into line and blaming entire parties for stupid shit like this it totally absolves them of personal responsibility and allows party line media spin and other such nonsense to sway folks like you into kneejerk voting.
So you go back to voting your party lines so we can get a new crop of corrupted shits and continue the cycle. I will actually follow candidates and vote regardless of party based on who is likely to not fuck us. Or did you forget that alot of the bullshit that is coming back to bite us now was built up on the Democratic watch. COPA, DMCA, the list goes on...it comes from asshats party line voting instead of researching issues.
I did read it. It was a nice piece of fluff interspersed with facts. You totally ignored the fact that military spending is probably 10x what it should be at due to it being forced to operate outside of the normal economy. If the military spending was allowed to operate with the economy the costs of military spending would be considerably smaller. Nevermind the vague assertions of ammounts spent with questionable reference sources that the paper uses to prove that investments in other areas would have paid off more. The military is being used to siphon tax dollars into private defense sector firms.
Incidentally the support and defend thing isn't marketing fluff that is the purpose. The use of the military is entirely different, and is influenced by kneejerk uninformed voters more than any military decision. The purpose of lobbyists is to influence government contracts to fill the coffers of defense sector companies, not the military.
However, instead of having any meaninful discussion, you assert that I couldn't possibly do that, that you are absolutely correct in all regards, and that because I disagree with your linked paper that I didn't read it. Also right after it recaps what broken window fallacy is, it explains that the military isn't a producer...if you read my previous post you would notice I said that. Instead you pick out a few stupid lines to quote and go on about how ignorant I am. I guess I shouldn't expect more from someone with a sig like yours. FYI Republicans want small government, less intrusions on the people, less government spending. What we have now calling themselves Republicans aren't that at all. But I guess if you knew what you were talking about you would know that already right?
For what its worth... There is the practice of defensive patenting. I certainly can't say for sure that is what they are doing, but imagine what would happen if they didn't patent it and some pharm lab did. You really can't cry prior art to save it because it would still lead to an extensive and expensive court battle that would drag on for ages and keep the technology down. Since, like you said, that is ultimately what a pharm company is likely to do anyways since they don't want a cure it would be an automatic win for their cause anyways. If the pharm company can patent it, or tie it up in legal stuff for a decade, they win regardless.
I am MUCH more trusting of these university research guys than some corporate pharm lab research guys as far as doing the right thing with the patent. Hopefully it won't be misplaced, but lets not jump to conclusions.
It is not a broken window fallacy because the purpose of the military is not to produce anything. If the military was to be designated a producer then it would be absolutely horrific efficiency you are right. Given that those wonderful public officials elected by the populace have deemed it important to have a qualified parts list that forces the military to only but from certain manufacturers granting them an insane monopoly power to sell to the military at absolutely uncompetitive prices based on the congressional buddy system. For example a $3 fiber connector costs the military around $20, and a simple hammer that you could purchase from walmart costs around $60. So military spending is grossly inflated by being forced to buy from the select few on that list. If the military was allowed to purchase from other sources then the numbers involved would be drastically reduced. So any nonsense about how they don't contribute because of the cost/return is grossly disproportionate anyways. These costs go on like this because again, the military is not a economic producer, the goal of the military is to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
Now, I'm not making any argument one way or the other towards how well its stated goal is being met here. The only fallacy here is blaming the military for the acts of the politicians. The grotesque spending is a byproduct of that horrific parts list, and if you talk to almost anyone in the military responsible for any kind of purchasing they will be able to explain to you at length how god awful of an idea it is. As far as the whole blame the military for killing, once again, why not lay the blame where it belongs, at the elected officials and ultimately the public that put them there or didn't demand their resignation. Blaming the military is a stupid attempt to pass off responsibility by citizens who should have probably been a little more active. We can go back and forth until we are blue in the face about how the government won't listen to the populace, but I seem to remember a handful of guys that made their government listen. Good folks too, wrote a few really good papers...you can go see them in the National Archives until the current administration has them recalled for redacting. Blame the gun not the trigger man right?
Now just for arguments sake...would you care to explain to me everything that never got invented because of military spending? I mean..can you give specific examples of the uninvented things that makes my point so ridiculous? Or maybe your point is completely ridiculous for attempting to quantify uninvented things against actual expenditures. While we are at it, lets pretend that we are having this discussion in an alien language that the military failed to defeat because of lack of funding. By all means, explain to me how to think it through when pondering uninvented items to use in comparison.
Thank you. I think its funny I got modded down so harshly. I mean DARPAnet was a jingoistic plot to destroy the world right? This is why the ultra left/right piss me off so much, they use the same stupid blind and moronic crap every time, flinging stupid shit back and forth and making anyone that doesn't agree 100% look like a loony from the other camp.
No. Lefty crybabies support crying about how the only way jingoistic right-wingers will spend money is promising to kill people and how lefties only support beneficial research. Sane indivudals who are largely responsible for the actual research are generally much more middle minded and see the benefits of doing the research in more aspects than some stupid political mudslinging fest. Just FYI, in reality there are people who lean left and lean right who are able to disagree and compromise without resorting to stupid shit like crying about how the military is a bunch of evil murders and only want to kill people. The problem is the ultra left and ultra right do such a wonderful job of screwing things up something fierce to prevent anything meaningful from getting done, because if you disagree with anything from either camp you are obviously a loonatic from the other camp.
In the meantime you can go on about how all the humanitarian aid stuff the military does is just a plot to cover up mass murders. There were significant advances in aviation from the whole Berlin airlift thing which was an unprecedented feat of aviation and saved lots of lives. Being first responders to tsunamis, hurricanes, etc, etc...its all just secret training we got by bombing levies and setting off underwater nuclear bombs right?
I can't believe this trite got modded up as insightful. Quit crying. Turn off your computer. Stop using your car. Don't ever fly commercial flight. You had better not ever check the weather channel. And you had absolutely better not ever go to a doctor for anything, definitely any sort of trauma injury. Because your little Department of Attack mindless left crybaby nonsense is who brought major advances in all of those areas. In fact, it wasn't to long ago that there was a story here about medicine and how the pharm companies just develop symptom treatments to bleed everyone for money, while the military research develops cures and vaccines because they are more interested in fixing the problem quickly.
I swear to God, its every few stories someone makes some moronic comment about the military on here and the sheep flock to it. If you want to cry about a group cry about the elected body that controls the military. Once again I would like to thank you for helping to stop progress and allow the far right to keep a tight grip by making anyone left of their agenda look stupid.
What about the placebo effect for example? The doctor lies to the patient, but it can benefit the patient. There are lots of situations like this. What about when you tell the wounded soldier "It isn't bad". These are lies, but are they wrong? There have been tons of cases where misrepresenting the threat something poses leads to people taking a more active role in defending themselves from the threat. In relation to politics, threats to freedom should always be oversold to ensure that they will be defended against. In relation to atrocities (and to invoke Godwin's law just for fun) there were Nazi soldiers who killed themselves when they found out they had been washing with dead jew brand soap. The atrocity shouldn't be covered up, but I think given that most Nazi soldiers had no idea what was going on, that it may have been better for them to not have ever known about the soap. Even Santa and the Easter Bunny are lies (and for a fun poke, I can see a relation to a fat guy giving out presents on the representation of the J-mans bday, but what the hell does a egg laying bunny have to do with him coming back from the dead?)
I don't think the ends always justify the means, but it isn't always a clear cut line.
Unfortunately that tends to be "We are going to lose, but don't know it" speak. I wonder how many politicians have been elected on the platform of "We don't have to lie because we are better" great...and you also aren't elected so your policy of not lying really means about squat because the guy who is telling all the lies is the 'decider'. Not that I really advocate lying here, just playing devil's advocate a bit.
Again I think you took my cynical view of this video game nonsense and my proposed solution too seriously. The "just a video game" thing is in an entirely different world from drugs and prostitution. If I want to protect my children from the influence of sex, violence, whatever in a video game, as a parent all I have to do is push the button on the TV labled power. Its an insult to have legislators involved in this at all since I already have absolute control just by being a parent who actually parents. Drugs and prostitution is a much different problem and there is no "off" button that I can push to keep it out of my life.
I never said alcohol didn't have negative effects, but the same goes with something like marijuana. The effects are relatively minimal and easily mitigated through responsible use. However, I don't really believe there is a 'responsible use' scenario for crack or meth or any number of other drugs. I also never said that simply making it criminal is the best solution, in fact many other places have proven there are better ways of handling removing such elements from society. Beyond the obvious problems of spread of disease, and the psychological issues that go along with prostitution, the whole "sex worker" thing amuses the hell out of me. What value does "sex worker" add to society? I love how they parade around at these little conventions, form their little trade groups, and pretend like its a legitimate occupation and isn't just the epitome of laziness or that their industry has any upstanding virtues. I have a friend that spent a year or so working at a porn store... That industry is sick, and degrading in more ways that can be described. I am certainly not puritanical about sex, but as soon as you add money to the mix, it without a doubt goes south. Some think the military is bad about promising an education, but the numbers are FAR better there, something like 1-5% of the girls who planned on using it to get through school ever do. The hooker with a heart of gold thing is pretty much restricted to hollywood.
1. You took something that was obviously nonsensical and chose to take offense to hookers being called criminals and how you should be able to enjoy whatever vice you want and how its hypocritical to talk about video game violence bans when you cant legally do the drugs you want and pick up hookers. There is no parallel and that is just a stupid point to make. 2. You keep insisting I am aggregating anything, again presumably to take as much offense to a nonsense comment as humanly possible and once again try to establish some strange moral highground when arguging about how your inability to do drugs and hookers is some terrible breech of your freedom. Just in case you aren't aware GTA is about thugs, low lifes, drug dealers, hookers, etc etc etc. Given that I was talking about a nonsense game that would parallel GTA it would only make sense to list the character types involved in GTA don't you think? 3. You have surely lost your mind. You are going to try to draw a moral equivalent between a girl selling her body and farmers growing produce? This again just shows a selfish goal of "I wanna do drugs and hookers regardless of consequence". You also try and drag prohibition into this using strange tangents. Prohibition is only related in that disallowed the sale of booze, given that the act of buying a bottle of your favorite stuff doesn't really have a psychological or physiological effect its pretty different then selling your body. With the exception of a select few, the vast majority of street drugs have a huge negative impact on society, and actually are closely related to prostitution, as it is one of the key factors involved in keeping the women in the business. Hooked on drugs? Can't get a job cuz your too strung out, here, take your pants off and Johnny here will give you your next hit. This is nothing new, this is how that has been run since the dawn of civilization. I don't view drugs or prostitution as some great moral thing, I view it simply as things that have large negative effects on society.
It is fairly difficult to show how violent video games have had a negative impact on society. Drugs and prostitution are terribly easy to show the negative impacts. So it blows my mind that in a discussion about video games you attempt to find some strange moral high ground and relate drugs and prostitution to video games, and then further to growing produce. So please do come back to reality.
1. Humor. Please look it up.
2. Given that in most places prostitution is illegal hookers and criminals are one in the same. So don't go bitching at me about aggregating anything
3. Your "supposedly benign" vice comment cracks me up as piss poor justification for getting your jollies of however you like at the expense of others while throwing up the blinders on anything that would potentially make your little vice look bad. So by all means...please ignore what the drug trade does...or even better...go look up trafficing in persons or the sex trade...I mean kidnapping girls and the like is totally ok as long as you can spend $10 to stick it in one right? Keeps costs down.
Some guy growing pot in his basement isn't even in the same league as a drug dealer. Quite frankly I see no problem in locking up meth dealers with the murderers, but putting pot smokers in jail is just dumb. So hookers and drugs aren't about political fights and freedoms, its about sick and twisted justifications of the abuse and exploitation of others for your own pleasures.
Let us think about speed delta for a moment. The concern isn't that they are coming up behind you, the concern is that they are cutting in front of you with 12 inches or less of clearance because they are dodging through traffic because everyone is traveling +-5 of the speed limit while they are going +25. So reducing your speed delta here actually is worse...because when they fly around you and lose control, hit the debris in the rode from a blown tire, hit the car in the road they didn't quite clear, whatever...the larger the speed delta the larger the distance between you when Mr. Speedfreak wraps himself around the telephone pole and the MORE time you have to react. I don't know many that react to people coming up behind them by slowing down. You want the gap between you to remain the largest as possible at all times in a situation like this. The faster they move past you the faster you are out of the risk zone of being too close to a moron on the road. Incidentally this is very closely related to the fact that most people have no concept of what "following distance" means...they think its 1 car length or some static distance, when it is actually supposed to be measured in time. There should be at least a 3 second gap between you and the car in front of you...at 10Mph that gap is a considerably shorter distance than it is at say 60Mph.
Apparently in a parallel universe. The people with really fast cars generally are the worst and most impatient shitheads on the road. In fact I can't count the number of times I have called 911 (I really enjoy passing them after they get pulled over with a huge ticket) because some dumbass in a ricer thinking he is the king of the road is racing his stupid ricer friend through congested traffic that is moving at 50-60 while they are dodging in and out at 110 because their small fast car can squeeze through and force everyone else on the road to mash on breaks, cause wrecks, and the standing waves. Further, I can't count the number of times I have seen perfectly smooth traffic, decent spacing, all completely shit canned because some moron in his little speed demon came dodging up back and forth flying through the traffic causing everyone to slow down and swerve.
People with fast cars like that tend to be terribly unpredictable, making it far safer to drive 5 under the speed limit (which in most places in town is 55) where you have a little more time to react to the moron doing 75 in a 55. In fact I love it when some assclown come zipping past me at 20 over the speed limit only to wind up at the same red light a whole car length ahead of me. Such a stupid assumption about people with fast cars drive better because they don't want to mess up their car makes be think that you have no clue what you are talking about and are just making up dumb excuses for your own wreckless driving. Why do sports cars cost more insurance wise...because they are more likely to be in wrecks! surprise! Here let me counter your insane guess with some more unfounded guesswork...maybe people with crappy cars drive better because they can't afford full coverage or a brand new car when they drive like morons and T-bone someone.
"How dare you stop at a legal red light and let me hit you doing 80!" -- Dane Cook
I always wondered about the infamous beating the hooker thing. I mean maybe it actually is a benefit to our society. I figure if you suddenly have all of these video game players deciding they should beat hookers (lets go ahead and assume, that all of those geek and average teens will be magically transformed into the thug teens that troll the streets looking for gangs to fight and hookers to beat) maybe just maybe it would discourage young american girls from being hookers. I mean really...as a hooker if your chances of being beaten to death are significantly increased by the release of a video game, I imagine it would discourage more girls from being hookers wouldn't it?
I propose the most violent video game ever "Street Cleaner" where the goal of the game is to dump as much cheap ammo into as many low lifes, thugs, hookers, criminals and other such things. We can really see if there is a real effect. Do more kids go out on vigilante runs? Are more kids discouraged from doing criminal things for fear of the increased vigilantes?
You have a very frightening understanding of copyright. The music industry likes indefinite copyright stuff because digital music is so easy to reproduce. It isn't doing its job well in that industry. However, say you spent the last 10 years of your life writing your masterpiece novel...genius work...publishers all over are clamoring for the rights. OOPS there is no copyright...guess your ass out...they just mass produce copies of your novel and not bother to pay you, they make millions, you get squat. Copyright and Patent laws are meant to grant the inventor/creator a temporary monopoly as a reward for being first to market. The problem is they have become less temporary and more vague and aren't doing a very good job at all. Or maybe you invented some brand new super widget technology, good thing there are no patents, Megacorp just takes your plans and mass produces Megacorp Widget 3000 while you get paid squat.
Military telephony has always been a bit of an issue, even more so on the tactical side. The concentrated efforts to make all of the telephony stuff work together kinda came a little too late.
Anyways...you have a duty to the world to find out what kind of porn! This is of huge historical importance! I mean...we need to know if the internet was shaped by good ol normie porn, or if it was shaped by something like goatse guy!