I'm sure the new stuff is more 'themeable' or some other sugar-fix niceness that people who aren't even OLD enough to have been running 8-year-old software would understand.
We live in a world where there is a thriving business in 'ring tones' that cost actual MONEY, for gods sake.
Buying win2k in 2000 seems like a piss poor deal compared to buying XP in 2001
Naw. There will still be valuable uses for a machine running Windows 2000 in the year 2018.
Windows XP machines will no longer 'validate' as Microsoft will either be gone or moved on five to eight generations newer and refuse to 'validate' (or whatever the buzzword for the mandatory phone home bullshit I've never had to perform) XP systems.
The 'end of the line' for a bunch of us who continue to make (some) use of Microsoft's OSes is Windows 2000, and I have NEVER been unhappy that I got a copy.
It's been common knowledge for some time that IE7 will be XP only. It's been a main discussion topic on Slashdot itself at least once in the past.
This, apparently, is the appropriate time for this kind of hysterical thread, though, so it's been posted as a kind of dupe. Possibly more banner revenue is needed, or the Slashdot Cruiser had a flat tire or needs a brake job.
Everyone else was crusing BBSes on their 1200 baud modems, too, on regular personal computers of various makes and types. But you were wrapped up in your subcult and probably didn't notice.
the Amiga was the top of the line when it came to multimedia and workstation applications.
Nope. The Amiga can't even TOUCH the 'workstation applications' that mattered in 1985. There wasn't any significant engineering CAD software out for the Amiga.
But if we're talking strictly about consumer-grade Pee Cee, you might be correct.
Even better solution. Hook a modem to your not-needed telephone line and put up an old-style BBS. If you're really adventurous, set it up as a firewalled 'gateway' to your internet connection, thus turning it into a 'free ISP' dialup for whomever happens to get to it first at any time.
Then advertise it to your friends and/or poor people you know who might like net access but can't afford it.
I can understand why a VT100 wouldn't be classified as a 'dumb terminal' since it had cursor control and certain other 'smart' features. But why would I have connected one to a dumb terminal?
Sure, at least once we've all used a three-wire 'null modem' cable to connect two terminals together to 'check it out' and type messages between the terminals, but why would it be a nostalgic memory to connect a VT100 to a TTY terminal??
I can do you even better. I have a huge rackmount Compaq Proliant server. It has two Pentium III processors and a whole rack on front for a hot pluggable RAID array of drives. I only paid $10 for it at an auction.
And it uses even MORE power, makes even MORE noise, and is even BIGGER than your Prolinea system.
In the meanwhile, the NetBSD people could probably port their system to this hardware in an afternoon. There's more to life than Linux.
It's even possible the thing is already running NetBSD. Hard to say, but it's quite possible. It's common practice to bring up NetBSD on platforms like this as an early step in the development. And there's LOTS of NetBSD embedded out there. With the lid screwed down (closed source,) of course.
Yes, but often the 'exploits' people make use of in, say, Samba, involves injecting a little bit of binary code into the stream that runs and gives the cracker root. On a non-x86 platform, the cracker would have to keep around different 'little bits of binary code' to inject. And it's safe to say that script kiddies won't do that. They'll move along to the next box they've found somewhere else to crack.
Yes. There are a lot of people at Apple who probably are glad that the world has forgotten their embarassing disasters of spending on the 'Next Generation' MacOS, before they gave it all up and bought in an outside OS.
People act like Apple 'neary went out of business' purely because of a few evil men at the top. Truth is, the company haemorrhaged cash for a decade while the tech staff foundered around badly.
Then that malicious guy gets banned from the network,
Oh, I see. So you're saying that there's no anonymnity on the 'network.' If somebody 'acts up' or is 'unsuitable' to be a passenger, they are refused service.
And everybody else is consistently and rigorously tracked and cleared for each use of the system, in case they become 'unsuitable' or 'act up.'
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Objective C was available as an installable option in Linux back when I was running Slackware 3.4 in the mid 90's.
I'm not sure why it would be more 'robust' on the Mac.
Don't forget the clutch.
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*sound of gnashing gears*
Oh well, whatever. .
I'm sure the new stuff is more 'themeable' or some other sugar-fix niceness that people who aren't even OLD enough to have been running 8-year-old software would understand.
We live in a world where there is a thriving business in 'ring tones' that cost actual MONEY, for gods sake.
Buying win2k in 2000 seems like a piss poor deal compared to buying XP in 2001
Naw. There will still be valuable uses for a machine running Windows 2000 in the year 2018.
Windows XP machines will no longer 'validate' as Microsoft will either be gone or moved on five to eight generations newer and refuse to 'validate' (or whatever the buzzword for the mandatory phone home bullshit I've never had to perform) XP systems.
The 'end of the line' for a bunch of us who continue to make (some) use of Microsoft's OSes is Windows 2000, and I have NEVER been unhappy that I got a copy.
Is that some sort of secret code only your fellow bretheren will get?
It's been common knowledge for some time that IE7 will be XP only. It's been a main discussion topic on Slashdot itself at least once in the past.
This, apparently, is the appropriate time for this kind of hysterical thread, though, so it's been posted as a kind of dupe. Possibly more banner revenue is needed, or the Slashdot Cruiser had a flat tire or needs a brake job.
(the dupes are eating it up, incidentally)
Does your company not use any Microsoft Intranet functionality? You don't need DirectX controls for anything?
Why are they installing Web Browsers on the PCs at all in the first place, then?
I know part of it was choosing your programs and hardware very, very carefully.
Well, that's the sort of thing you have to do when y ou're running on an unstable platform.
we were cruising BBS:s on our 1200 baud modems. ..
Everyone else was crusing BBSes on their 1200 baud modems, too, on regular personal computers of various makes and types. But you were wrapped up in your subcult and probably didn't notice.
the Amiga was the top of the line when it came to multimedia and workstation applications.
Nope. The Amiga can't even TOUCH the 'workstation applications' that mattered in 1985. There wasn't any significant engineering CAD software out for the Amiga.
But if we're talking strictly about consumer-grade Pee Cee, you might be correct.
Yes, but what does a computer being affordable enough for adolescents to have it in their bedroom have to do with how advanced it is?
(I'll charge openoffice.org a nickle and apple $20 bucks for it, everyone else can pay me millions.)
Ah, so you have a chosen band of litigious bastards who you favor...
I just rightclick on the image with Mozilla and never seen another graphic from that server again.
Yes, with the 'light' setting of Slashdot config, you can turn off the graphics and miss barely a thing that matters on Slashdot.
Even better solution. Hook a modem to your not-needed telephone line and put up an old-style BBS. If you're really adventurous, set it up as a firewalled 'gateway' to your internet connection, thus turning it into a 'free ISP' dialup for whomever happens to get to it first at any time.
Then advertise it to your friends and/or poor people you know who might like net access but can't afford it.
I can understand why a VT100 wouldn't be classified as a 'dumb terminal' since it had cursor control and certain other 'smart' features. But why would I have connected one to a dumb terminal?
Sure, at least once we've all used a three-wire 'null modem' cable to connect two terminals together to 'check it out' and type messages between the terminals, but why would it be a nostalgic memory to connect a VT100 to a TTY terminal??
Do you show ID every time you use Mass Transit?
It seemed to me more like he was challanging it. Implying it had little RAM, etc.
A Lear-Siegler ADM-3A has a monitor attached. Use it as a 'coupling device' to attach it's CRT to 'this beastie.' Or use a VT-220 or what-not.
You'll have to do the serial port hack first, though.
I can do you even better. I have a huge rackmount Compaq Proliant server. It has two Pentium III processors and a whole rack on front for a hot pluggable RAID array of drives. I only paid $10 for it at an auction.
And it uses even MORE power, makes even MORE noise, and is even BIGGER than your Prolinea system.
There. Do you get the point??
So you're saying that under Linux, the appropriate USB device is still a piece of black electrical tape over the USB connector??
I know that *used* to be the case, but I thought (actually, I *know*) times have changed.
In the meanwhile, the NetBSD people could probably port their system to this hardware in an afternoon. There's more to life than Linux.
It's even possible the thing is already running NetBSD. Hard to say, but it's quite possible. It's common practice to bring up NetBSD on platforms like this as an early step in the development. And there's LOTS of NetBSD embedded out there. With the lid screwed down (closed source,) of course.
Yes, but often the 'exploits' people make use of in, say, Samba, involves injecting a little bit of binary code into the stream that runs and gives the cracker root. On a non-x86 platform, the cracker would have to keep around different 'little bits of binary code' to inject. And it's safe to say that script kiddies won't do that. They'll move along to the next box they've found somewhere else to crack.
Yes. There are a lot of people at Apple who probably are glad that the world has forgotten their embarassing disasters of spending on the 'Next Generation' MacOS, before they gave it all up and bought in an outside OS.
People act like Apple 'neary went out of business' purely because of a few evil men at the top. Truth is, the company haemorrhaged cash for a decade while the tech staff foundered around badly.
Then that malicious guy gets banned from the network,
.
Oh, I see. So you're saying that there's no anonymnity on the 'network.' If somebody 'acts up' or is 'unsuitable' to be a passenger, they are refused service.
And everybody else is consistently and rigorously tracked and cleared for each use of the system, in case they become 'unsuitable' or 'act up.'
I see where you're taking this. .
The PRT advocates would have you spayed or neutered after that first child.