Or cofee plantation heirs engineering in Paris. Nooo-sir !
Or multi-millionaire orphans who become crime fighting superheroes.
That's no moon!
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I have to add my support to this point of view. I hadn't a clue what I was reading, but compared to some of the shit people have to go through, this is tame. They responder seems a bit geeky, but when you run a 'propeller engine efficency calculator for light airplanes that don't run on gasoline expect on tuesday when the sun is at an angle of 47.2 degrees' website, you've got expect that. (I'm still waiting for the/. posting 'Hey that's me!').
I would, however, suggest that the site owner gets himself an online bug-tracker, slap this in as a bug and then mark it as not-reproducible.
Any further questions "See Bug #122323465897597"
There's plenty of big software providers that use this technique - as well we know.
Everyone in Ireland knows that the Irish Examiner used to be the Cork examiner - and they never miss an opportunity to point out how Dublin is doing a bad job.
This is because Cork thinks that it's the centre of the friggin' universe. The 'Real Capital', my arse! Just a bunch of thunderin' ejits, living in their little Blarney fantasy land. Sure they can't even talk right. What the hell is a 'langer', anyway. They wouldn't even know how to spell NIC.
The fact that they are right is quite beside the point.
There are a number of cases individuals died in the care of the church (which was close to being an arm of the state) and the authorities turned a blind eye.
There are equally cases of horrific sexual abuse often leading to suicide.
Feel free to judge yourself which is worse. (Though it's a given that religion sucked for Ireland, as it does for Iran).
No, "the parent post" is presenting the facts about Ireland.
It is clear that Ireland will not benefit in any way from a 95 year copyright extension on music rights - in fact less so as there is no revenue to be gained from artists who pay 0% tax.
I'm sure - like a lot of people on/., myself included - you dislike McCreevy for his stance on Software Patents. But to say that he is a shill for Ireland based on one case is stretching it. I will not disagree that the Microsoft investment was influenced by his support for Software Patents, but McCreevy holds those views anyway when Irish interest are not served, as we can see clearly from TFA.
Ireland scores very well on international (non-)corruption tables.
BTW Ireland is not necessarily full of selfless businessman, the individuals in question were living in Manchester at the time.
The facts that you've bundled together there are about as completely wrong as you could get.
Ireland had a declining population for years (not owing to the Troubles; it was the South that was declining, not the North) due to the endemic corruption, lack of personal freedom, and poor educational opportunities.
The corruption was a symptom of a high tax economy which was in turn a symptom of bad economic management during hard times. As far as educational opportunities were concerned Ireland had, in spite of itself and taking into account its size, one of the best education systems in the world - which is seen as one of the major contributors to its recent success.
I'll give you the Iran thing. It's probably not completely far from the truth - certainly up to late '80s.
The two schemes that you mention have absolutely nothing to do with Ireland's success. If I may, I would suggest that it was caused by (1) Technically educated workforce at the same time as the Internet got big (2) Low corporate tax rate (3) English speaking (4) Heavily committed to EU and Euro (5) Very business friendly politically (6) Zero tolerance of corruption and (7) the Good weather?.
If you doubt this, look at what happened to investigative journalists like Guerin and Taoiseachs like Bertie Ahearn.
The criminal gangs in Ireland existed like in any other country. And like in other countries Veronica Guerin was shot because she was investigating them - nothing special there.
Bertie on the other hand had no criminal connections. His problems came because he divorced his wife and was basically taken to the cleaners. Individual businessmen gave him a ton of cash to help him out - unfortunately at the same time Bertie pontificated in the Dail (parliment) that it was reprehensible that any politician should be beholden to outside interests. And unfortunately he got caught - it was illegal, but not in the 'Criminal gangs' sense.
The upshot is that shills like McCreevy are trying to keep the artists on board by proposing that they get something which no other professional gets, (if 95 years copyright for a writer, why not 95 years for a patent?) hoping that Ireland will benefit in some way from tax collection. Apple is also strongly represented In Ireland and can presumably afford lobbyists.
Charlie McCreevy is just doing his job - as Commissioner for Internal Markets, and most other countries reckon he's doing OK at it. He's applying his own philosophy to it which is very much pro IP rights - which is why he's a darling of Microsoft and the Record Companies. (I'm not saying I agree with him).
As you say in Ireland there is no tax for artists - but that means no revenue for government, so that point is a contradiction. There also aren't any record companies her - so you're 0 for 2 there.
The economic downturn and the gradual ending of EU structural funding (supposedly for building railways and roads but actually diverted to building country houses for the rich Irish) is putting a strain on the Irish economy. They need the money.
The downturn in Ireland is, like everywhere else, caused by a combination of High Oil Prices, Low Consumer Confidence and a Global Credit Crunch. Nothing to do with structural funding, which did make a lot of people rich, as you would expect - but not in the corrupt way you are suggesting.
Ireland needs to pay for a very high public service bill - but that will need to be achieved by cutting the bill, not by getting a few more quid off an aging Bono.
They're worried that he or an associate might be able to destroy hundreds of thousands of sensitive documents, including emails, payroll information, and law enforcement documents.
Yes - that's the reason.
Not because he showed up their complete incompetence and made them look like fools and now they want retribution. Protecting the public's right to privacy - yes, that's the reason.
I've seen sites that get fewer than 500 hits a day using all of that crap.
So you're saying that because developers use the wrong tools for the job, by applying freely available open-source frameworks, that's Java's fault. Don't they have bad developers in Perl?
Very few people use plain old servlets running in a plain old J2EE container.
So? Doesn't change the fact that you can use it if you want - and that your Perl/DBI/CGI can be just as easily implemented with Servlets/Jdbc. I'm not arguing for one solution over the other - especially for the 500 hits a day site, but the architecture you described is just a Java strawman and if anyone you know has created such a system, then problem is not with the frameworks.
Sorry but that's just a bit daft - and suggests that you need to go back to school on this.
You suggest that Perl works at a smaller level. Not so.
The equivalent of Perl on Apache in Java is achieved using a J2EE Webserver, such as Tomcat - which is as easy or easier to set up than Apache with mod_perl, and comparable in size - and pages are served using servlets, which are as simple to a Java programmer as Perl is to a Perl programmer.
Now, arguments could be made about the performance or effectiveness of either solution. But in terms of complexity both are pretty much equivalent.
What you are talking about is Web frameworks, but these are extensions of the basic model designed to provide (in general) MVC support. There's nothing stopping you having those in Perl - and there's no requirement to have them in Java.
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You have to migrate your badly written and hard-to-maintain Perl code into badly written and hard-to-maintain Java code as soon as possible.
Having to implement changes today for a shipping date next Friday...
LUG--xury!!
In my day we'd ship it Monday, test it Tuesday, build it Wednesday and design it on't Thursday.
(And no I've never worked for Microsoft).
Or cofee plantation heirs engineering in Paris. Nooo-sir !
Or multi-millionaire orphans who become crime fighting superheroes.
That's a halucination caused by so called flouridization of the water driven by a military industrial complex conspiracy to exploit the common man and subvert democracy for the establishment of a new world through globalisation and unilateral foreign poli...
Wait, sorry, it is a moon. My bad.
WUSSYWIG - A hairpiece for people who aren't assertive.
The mean jew?
The stupid nigger?
The cowardly bosnian?
The lazy romanian?
The ugly Tutsi?
The dead homosexual?
The guy in the wheelchair?
The drunken Irishman?
Sure they're only harmless jokes.
(Blanket apologies to anyone I've offended).
If there were a book entitled 'How to commit genocide', chapter 1 would be 'The Harmless Joke'.
I have to add my support to this point of view. I hadn't a clue what I was reading, but compared to some of the shit people have to go through, this is tame. They responder seems a bit geeky, but when you run a 'propeller engine efficency calculator for light airplanes that don't run on gasoline expect on tuesday when the sun is at an angle of 47.2 degrees' website, you've got expect that. (I'm still waiting for the /. posting 'Hey that's me!').
I would, however, suggest that the site owner gets himself an online bug-tracker, slap this in as a bug and then mark it as not-reproducible.
Any further questions "See Bug #122323465897597"
There's plenty of big software providers that use this technique - as well we know.
I've just spent the last 5 weeks putting together a patent application for a "System for greeting individuals called World" - and now it's worthless.
What's the point of other people doing work, if I can't cash in on it.
Sod it. :-(
Predict a crash, you will eventually be proven right.
Batman's really only cool because of his enemies.
Batman vs the purse snatcher or Batman vs the social welfare fraudster etc, would get pretty boring after about a week.
Clearly "You, Too, Could Be The Joker In 10 To 12 Years" is required , or maybe just some freaky chemistry.
Then again, an "if you build it, they will come" universal harmony thing might apply...
Everyone in Ireland knows that the Irish Examiner used to be the Cork examiner - and they never miss an opportunity to point out how Dublin is doing a bad job.
This is because Cork thinks that it's the centre of the friggin' universe. The 'Real Capital', my arse! Just a bunch of thunderin' ejits, living in their little Blarney fantasy land. Sure they can't even talk right. What the hell is a 'langer', anyway. They wouldn't even know how to spell NIC.
The fact that they are right is quite beside the point.
(For a North American cultural equivalent, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park:_Bigger%2C_Longer_%26_Uncut)
Anyone who mods me down is from Cork - believe it!
There are a number of cases individuals died in the care of the church (which was close to being an arm of the state) and the authorities turned a blind eye.
There are equally cases of horrific sexual abuse often leading to suicide.
Feel free to judge yourself which is worse. (Though it's a given that religion sucked for Ireland, as it does for Iran).
No, "the parent post" is presenting the facts about Ireland.
It is clear that Ireland will not benefit in any way from a 95 year copyright extension on music rights - in fact less so as there is no revenue to be gained from artists who pay 0% tax.
I'm sure - like a lot of people on /., myself included - you dislike McCreevy for his stance on Software Patents. But to say that he is a shill for Ireland based on one case is stretching it. I will not disagree that the Microsoft investment was influenced by his support for Software Patents, but McCreevy holds those views anyway when Irish interest are not served, as we can see clearly from TFA.
Ireland scores very well on international (non-)corruption tables.
BTW Ireland is not necessarily full of selfless businessman, the individuals in question were living in Manchester at the time.
Alright, Stan. Don't labour the point.
The facts that you've bundled together there are about as completely wrong as you could get.
Ireland had a declining population for years (not owing to the Troubles; it was the South that was declining, not the North) due to the endemic corruption, lack of personal freedom, and poor educational opportunities.
The corruption was a symptom of a high tax economy which was in turn a symptom of bad economic management during hard times. As far as educational opportunities were concerned Ireland had, in spite of itself and taking into account its size, one of the best education systems in the world - which is seen as one of the major contributors to its recent success.
I'll give you the Iran thing. It's probably not completely far from the truth - certainly up to late '80s.
The two schemes that you mention have absolutely nothing to do with Ireland's success. If I may, I would suggest that it was caused by (1) Technically educated workforce at the same time as the Internet got big (2) Low corporate tax rate (3) English speaking (4) Heavily committed to EU and Euro (5) Very business friendly politically (6) Zero tolerance of corruption and (7) the Good weather?.
If you doubt this, look at what happened to investigative journalists like Guerin and Taoiseachs like Bertie Ahearn.
The criminal gangs in Ireland existed like in any other country. And like in other countries Veronica Guerin was shot because she was investigating them - nothing special there.
Bertie on the other hand had no criminal connections. His problems came because he divorced his wife and was basically taken to the cleaners. Individual businessmen gave him a ton of cash to help him out - unfortunately at the same time Bertie pontificated in the Dail (parliment) that it was reprehensible that any politician should be beholden to outside interests. And unfortunately he got caught - it was illegal, but not in the 'Criminal gangs' sense.
The upshot is that shills like McCreevy are trying to keep the artists on board by proposing that they get something which no other professional gets, (if 95 years copyright for a writer, why not 95 years for a patent?) hoping that Ireland will benefit in some way from tax collection. Apple is also strongly represented In Ireland and can presumably afford lobbyists.
Charlie McCreevy is just doing his job - as Commissioner for Internal Markets, and most other countries reckon he's doing OK at it. He's applying his own philosophy to it which is very much pro IP rights - which is why he's a darling of Microsoft and the Record Companies. (I'm not saying I agree with him).
As you say in Ireland there is no tax for artists - but that means no revenue for government, so that point is a contradiction. There also aren't any record companies her - so you're 0 for 2 there.
The economic downturn and the gradual ending of EU structural funding (supposedly for building railways and roads but actually diverted to building country houses for the rich Irish) is putting a strain on the Irish economy. They need the money.
The downturn in Ireland is, like everywhere else, caused by a combination of High Oil Prices, Low Consumer Confidence and a Global Credit Crunch. Nothing to do with structural funding, which did make a lot of people rich, as you would expect - but not in the corrupt way you are suggesting.
Ireland needs to pay for a very high public service bill - but that will need to be achieved by cutting the bill, not by getting a few more quid off an aging Bono.
because
They're worried that he or an associate might be able to destroy hundreds of thousands of sensitive documents, including emails, payroll information, and law enforcement documents.
Yes - that's the reason.
Not because he showed up their complete incompetence and made them look like fools and now they want retribution. Protecting the public's right to privacy - yes, that's the reason.
Which means that somewhere between 3 and 14,756,222 people speak it.
Yoink!
<>Way<<&boldy-woldy>> ahead of you!
Something similiar to: http://www.xkcd.com/440/
...Furvert!
I've seen sites that get fewer than 500 hits a day using all of that crap.
So you're saying that because developers use the wrong tools for the job, by applying freely available open-source frameworks, that's Java's fault. Don't they have bad developers in Perl?
Very few people use plain old servlets running in a plain old J2EE container.
So? Doesn't change the fact that you can use it if you want - and that your Perl/DBI/CGI can be just as easily implemented with Servlets/Jdbc. I'm not arguing for one solution over the other - especially for the 500 hits a day site, but the architecture you described is just a Java strawman and if anyone you know has created such a system, then problem is not with the frameworks.
Sorry but that's just a bit daft - and suggests that you need to go back to school on this.
You suggest that Perl works at a smaller level. Not so.
The equivalent of Perl on Apache in Java is achieved using a J2EE Webserver, such as Tomcat - which is as easy or easier to set up than Apache with mod_perl, and comparable in size - and pages are served using servlets, which are as simple to a Java programmer as Perl is to a Perl programmer.
Now, arguments could be made about the performance or effectiveness of either solution. But in terms of complexity both are pretty much equivalent.
What you are talking about is Web frameworks, but these are extensions of the basic model designed to provide (in general) MVC support. There's nothing stopping you having those in Perl - and there's no requirement to have them in Java.
Made you look. B-D.
I was just taking some time out to prepare for my Turing test.