I am an Xbox and XBox360 owner and while I'm mildly upset that I can't play some of the 15 games that I own, I would be even more upset if I couldn't play 30-40 games.
Sony's inclusion of a ps2 emulator means that there's a ps1 emulator as well. MS only has to worry about one generation. Sony has two, Nintendo has, what, 8?
wait...are we talking BASIC or Visual Basic or Visual Basic.NET?
VB.NET is a fine language for smaller web applications. I would use it over PHP any day. The only problem I have with it is it's inherently tied to IIS:(
VB = 6 sucks in my opinion. I am never working on systems where that is the only solution, but the.NET framework has forced MS to take a look at VB and fix it.
What's even worse is that some magazines are portraying advertising like actual articles and columns. It's getting really difficult to discern between them until you're half way through and find out that you're reading an advertisement for the latest Whizbang!2006 Elite Gizmo of the Week...
Yes, in a way it would. I don't buy a magazine based on it's girth.
$6-$7 is charged due to the fact that they print hundreds of glossy pages of crap that I never read, don't care to read and often choose not to ever purchase the magazine again.
100 pages of content is something I'd be willing to consider paying more for than 200 pages of content and 200 pages of advertising. At least my $3-$4 for the 100 pages of content (averages,averages...assuming 200 pages costs $6-$7)...is better spent in my mind.
I don't pay to have advertising shoved down my throat...
The fact that the average cost of a magazine is $6-$7 off the shelf, I would expect to see less than 50% advertising. It's quite rediculous to think that with the hundred of thousands, if not millions, of subscribers paying $5 per issue (typically discounts given to subscribers) couldn't cover the cost of a magazine.
Maybe it's the fact that all of these are owned by a select few publishers and they are subsidizing the cost of their failures by raising the cost of their more popular mags as well as putting in craploads of advertising.
On a different note, SSC has done this with Linux Journal. It's glossy ad ridden rag has become more and more worthless to me each month...
Unfortunately my attorney general is too busy running to governor of NY State. He can't be bothered with too much that doesn't deal with suing the RIAA and Radio stations or kissing hands and shaking babies.
But there is peer review in closed source software. You can get the source code for Windows and other proprietary software but it requires NDAs and other legal mumbo jumbo. Besides, there is no guarantee that an OSS project is getting meaningful audits and peer review either.
Is it confirmed that Apple closed the kernel? Or is it speculation because they haven't released updated source?
Judging by most projects out there, and I'll take gaim for example, the only thing you'll learn about coding by reading the source is how NOT to write good code.
I never said there weren't benefits to OSS, you misread what I said. He said the model sucks and I gave examples of where it does not suck. Your response basically takes my words and twists them saying the OSS model sucks or has no benefits over proprietary closed source. Which can't be further from what I said.
But does the model suck? There is plenty of software out there that works and is not Open Source. BeOS as rock solid and it was closed source. This was before the real explosion of popularity for linux, so it was up against MacOS, Windows, etc. It failed, but it was very stable. So that model worked for them.
Others: OS2, another solid stable closed source software offering. Now defunct. Opera, closed source, very popular, even amoung geeks and linux users. Almost ALL games.
Yes I am glad. The point was that the people who are causing the GPL turmoil are the elite gpl programmers who are pushing distros to become LESS user friendly and more difficult to accept.
That's fine though, because no one wants linux to be used by new users because then it means dummying it up. They like it to be their own little world of leetness.
If that's how you want it, fine. Don't tell people that it's easy to use then. It might be easy for you as a member of the cerebral elite, but the normal people aren't going to stick to something if it's difficult to use.
oooh a threat. Listen if the elitest jerks are the ones who wrote the OS then I don't want anything to do with it. I could care less how technically "superior" it is, but if I can't find a decent distro that includes everything I want then i say 'screw it'.
This distro gave me everything I needed to enjoy XGL. I didn't have to rebuild X, mesa, and a slew of other shit in order to try it.
Now the stupid invasic license is causing turmoil.
If MS ceded the entire Mac market to Apple's safari browser and safari only has google searching capability by default, then isn't it safe to say that Google has a default monopoly on all searching in the mac market? This gets even more interesting if Apple ever does release an OSX86 (or whatever it would be called).
Isn't firefox getting over 100 million downloads mean that it's a viable alternative that is being adopted on a cross-platform basis? Doesn't the existance of such a viable and well accepted alternative make the argument that Microsoft is a monopoly next to void?
Macintels are a direct competition in the Wintel market and seem to be getting more mindshare in the US market. That and the fact that a VIABLE alternative to Wintel boxes exist and are comparable in pricing.
If MS continues to remain the the leader in Desktop operating systems by more than 80% in the next 5 years and Apple continues it's fight into the desktop market then the market has made its decision and MS shouldn't be considered a monopoly anymore.
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I am an Xbox and XBox360 owner and while I'm mildly upset that I can't play some of the 15 games that I own, I would be even more upset if I couldn't play 30-40 games.
Sony's inclusion of a ps2 emulator means that there's a ps1 emulator as well. MS only has to worry about one generation. Sony has two, Nintendo has, what, 8?
wait...are we talking BASIC or Visual Basic or Visual Basic.NET?
:(
.NET framework has forced MS to take a look at VB and fix it.
VB.NET is a fine language for smaller web applications. I would use it over PHP any day. The only problem I have with it is it's inherently tied to IIS
VB = 6 sucks in my opinion. I am never working on systems where that is the only solution, but the
Google uses java as well as Python...
What's even worse is that some magazines are portraying advertising like actual articles and columns. It's getting really difficult to discern between them until you're half way through and find out that you're reading an advertisement for the latest Whizbang!2006 Elite Gizmo of the Week...
blah.
Yes, in a way it would. I don't buy a magazine based on it's girth.
$6-$7 is charged due to the fact that they print hundreds of glossy pages of crap that I never read, don't care to read and often choose not to ever purchase the magazine again.
100 pages of content is something I'd be willing to consider paying more for than 200 pages of content and 200 pages of advertising. At least my $3-$4 for the 100 pages of content (averages,averages...assuming 200 pages costs $6-$7)...is better spent in my mind.
I don't pay to have advertising shoved down my throat...
And MS is now giving these out free without the magazine, through XB Live and their downloaded demos, trailers, etc.
The fact that the average cost of a magazine is $6-$7 off the shelf, I would expect to see less than 50% advertising. It's quite rediculous to think that with the hundred of thousands, if not millions, of subscribers paying $5 per issue (typically discounts given to subscribers) couldn't cover the cost of a magazine.
Maybe it's the fact that all of these are owned by a select few publishers and they are subsidizing the cost of their failures by raising the cost of their more popular mags as well as putting in craploads of advertising.
On a different note, SSC has done this with Linux Journal. It's glossy ad ridden rag has become more and more worthless to me each month...
I bought my 50" Sony SXRD TV because of HDMI, that and it's a beautiful picture.
Too bad my XBox360 doesn't have HDMI out yet, but the component stuff works just as well for the 720p output it does.
Unfortunately my attorney general is too busy running to governor of NY State. He can't be bothered with too much that doesn't deal with suing the RIAA and Radio stations or kissing hands and shaking babies.
But there is peer review in closed source software. You can get the source code for Windows and other proprietary software but it requires NDAs and other legal mumbo jumbo. Besides, there is no guarantee that an OSS project is getting meaningful audits and peer review either.
:)
I know it's not the same...but it's there.
What is the reason in your opinion?
Seriously, not trolling. But I would like to know why you think it hasn't achieved desktop market
Is it confirmed that Apple closed the kernel? Or is it speculation because they haven't released updated source?
Judging by most projects out there, and I'll take gaim for example, the only thing you'll learn about coding by reading the source is how NOT to write good code.
I never said there weren't benefits to OSS, you misread what I said. He said the model sucks and I gave examples of where it does not suck. Your response basically takes my words and twists them saying the OSS model sucks or has no benefits over proprietary closed source.
Which can't be further from what I said.
But does the model suck? There is plenty of software out there that works and is not Open Source. BeOS as rock solid and it was closed source. This was before the real explosion of popularity for linux, so it was up against MacOS, Windows, etc. It failed, but it was very stable. So that model worked for them.
Others: OS2, another solid stable closed source software offering. Now defunct. Opera, closed source, very popular, even amoung geeks and linux users. Almost ALL games.
The model doesn't suck.
Yes I am glad. The point was that the people who are causing the GPL turmoil are the elite gpl programmers who are pushing distros to become LESS user friendly and more difficult to accept.
That's fine though, because no one wants linux to be used by new users because then it means dummying it up. They like it to be their own little world of leetness.
If that's how you want it, fine. Don't tell people that it's easy to use then. It might be easy for you as a member of the cerebral elite, but the normal people aren't going to stick to something if it's difficult to use.
oooh a threat. Listen if the elitest jerks are the ones who wrote the OS then I don't want anything to do with it. I could care less how technically "superior" it is, but if I can't find a decent distro that includes everything I want then i say 'screw it'.
This distro gave me everything I needed to enjoy XGL. I didn't have to rebuild X, mesa, and a slew of other shit in order to try it.
Now the stupid invasic license is causing turmoil.
Linux will lose out to MOSX because of this shit.
you can place sports bets with your coke dealer? That's awesome! One stop shopping all the way!
I certainly am. I'm not sure why, but the minute any of the editors show the least bit of non anti-microsoft feelings, they immediately get lambasted.
What do people get with the Sony 5 year free Live service?
Can you point me to anywhere that says what they will get compared to XBL Silver and Gold memberships?
5 years free for the equivilent of XBL Silver isn't a good deal in my mind. But if it's equivilent to XBL Gold or better, then it's a great deal.
ohh Clam...
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Looks like the real numbers you speak of are actually imaginary and my rumored numbers are much more realistic.
Imagine that.
Bob's PC world doesn't own his own OS, design his own hardware, etc.
Your example doesn't fit at all.
ok, I'm playing devil's advocate:
If MS ceded the entire Mac market to Apple's safari browser and safari only has google searching capability by default, then isn't it safe to say that Google has a default monopoly on all searching in the mac market? This gets even more interesting if Apple ever does release an OSX86 (or whatever it would be called).
Isn't firefox getting over 100 million downloads mean that it's a viable alternative that is being adopted on a cross-platform basis? Doesn't the existance of such a viable and well accepted alternative make the argument that Microsoft is a monopoly next to void?
Macintels are a direct competition in the Wintel market and seem to be getting more mindshare in the US market. That and the fact that a VIABLE alternative to Wintel boxes exist and are comparable in pricing.
If MS continues to remain the the leader in Desktop operating systems by more than 80% in the next 5 years and Apple continues it's fight into the desktop market then the market has made its decision and MS shouldn't be considered a monopoly anymore.
Unlike the PS3 which has been rumored to debut at $100 more than the Xbox360 Premium.
Oblivion by default is first person, but you can zoom out and have third person. I play this way because i hate FP POV...
:)
I deal with that all day long
You mean like APPLE iTunes?
That's written by the same company that makes the OS which is written by the same company who owns the hardware.
Lame is better than Fraunhofer?
no...not really.
Firefox is better than Opera? Once again, I disagree.
Gaim is better than Trillian? Not on my windows desktop.
You're basing fact on your opinion. Stop it.