That is the problem, you never used a Mac at high level, like installing a driver or software update. The Mac "Admin" still asked for password while trying to do critical things, Windows admin doesn't. There are thousands of Mac users who run regular user and still enjoy all capacity of system, games etc. Windows users CAN'T.
I used windows (all versions) and OS X, I know the difference. I tried to run windows like normal user, at end I found myself copying my "regular user" directory to Administrator directory and installing paranoid stuff all over my machine. It simply didn't work.
Normally I would say "Oh another hacker, not hacker fight" but your post makes perfect sense since just 2 stories below, posted by Zonk again, says:
"IT: How Hackers Identify Their Targets Posted by Zonk on 0:07 16th September, 2006 from the drawing-a-bead dept.
narramissic writes "In a recent article, security guru Brent Huston writes about research he did to get inside the minds of spammers and expose some of the processes they use to identify potential targets. "
The "hacker" term used there is in spammer/zombie master/phisher context. Just 1 story below!
Well site works, if the Quad 950 does make their publishing needs good no need to upgrade and it is also completely wrong to give.k12 school machine links on Slashdot saying "just check", it may render server useless since they are not planned to take hits from Slashdot.
Theoretically you can code a full feature site via text editor.;)
It launches INSIDE the plugin, plugin renders the web browser and it looks very functional, that "first" link, it loads google.co.uk fine.
More interestingly, as many of Mac users got sick of Adobe or Apple PDF plugins, I use Schubert IT browser plugin (free for non commercial use) inside Omniweb 5.5
Now, this is Mac and OS X... No known "go to page and get spyware if your system not updated" stuff around.
As you are a slashdot user, I don't have to explain what happens if your local ISP deals with devil and decides to snoop yes?
Careful I would say. Spamhaus only cares about MAJOR spam operations. If it is major operation and your ISP deals with them, it should really,really alert you as an online entity.
If you see my other messages I am actually victim of some moron zombie windows machine which spammed whole planet and got into SORBS, I really remember contacting my ISP about delisting and also used their easy web form hoping someone (The Postmaster!) will delist IP with one click.
Guess what? I am still there, my IP is in "open proxy" database. Do I blame SORBS? Hell no!
It is my moron ISP who let their customer spam whole planet with open proxy, not disconnecting him and explaining what that guy must do when he calls "My modem lights are off". As they don't click a freaking URL in a plain/simple english message, I am expecting too much of course.:)
Is there/Will there be a law allowing spammers do business in Chicago or Illinois?
Is there a database of those IPs assigned to that area? If something like that happens I am sure spammers who aren't stupid will move the operations to that area and Illinois IP will end up documented on some text file free for everyone to add their MANUAL bounce lists. Nobody can stop anyone from doing it.
Just like Korea,China and (unfortunately, due to Orange owned tpnet) Poland.
When people start blocking IP space they generally don't remove them back. Illinois (legit) businesses and netizens should be careful.
I mean lets say, Korean govt. bought billion dollar amount of antivirus and firewall software and forced everyone to install cleaning up entire country from organised Spammers like those awarded millions... It is of course:Impossible. Even it was possible, it will take YEARS for filters etc. catch on.
Those guys awarded money are no less than any other kind of mafia. They are just modern mafia.
It is not "poor lady got tricked by pyramid scheme and sending everyone spam manually" anymore. 99% of spam comes from worms/zombies which were sponsored by those mobs.
Their site says 'Please contact us with questions about this case or to INQUIRE ABOUT OUR MARKETING SERVICES." (yea, right!). As a person reporting spam for years instead of ignoring, I see we are dealing with some dark, botnet connected, worm author hiring, open proxy bidding company here.
Such people are very advanced , they aren't stupid to spam via their own domain/IPs or distribute spyware/spamware (yes exists) via their own space.
So, if you check their IP space, they are clean.
It makes me wonder if large spam reporting organisations such as Spamcop or large device vendors like Ironport (Spamcops parent) and famous http://www.cyveillance.com/ can't provide evidence to court or spamhaus?
They have terabytes or petabytes of spam in their hand.
I don't think anyone including those crooks can mess with Cyvelliance;)
Spam is a million dollar dirty business which even moved to "automatic" , "worm coder hired", "p2p shared" and "paid" thing.
If I was technical media,I would investigate the judge. If a mafia boss wrongfully released and reporter who investigates his wrongful actions go to jail,what would traditional media would do? IT media should start being real reporters, not some "New iPod images leaked" type of things.
I remember old times you could actually fight/argue with the spammer since it was a real person.
Those big time spammers are hiring worm coders to carry their business now and I heard even some "bidding" involved. There is no more "let me get a free AOL account and spam everyone" HUMAN around. It is all advanced AI code even including advanced OCR schemes.
Right now I can't logon to IRCnet since some moron using my IP was infected by a worm and became zombie for ages. I have to speak to a friend who only frequents there, I am a "victim" of SORBS... Not!
It is MY ISP who didn't care about numerous spam reports (must be no less than thousands) coming from Spamcop or numerous other ways of reporting. It is THEM who didn't care, it is THEM who still didn't care to contact SORBS (for sure!) for de-listing (even automatic) of IP which belongs to a OS X computer now. It is IP admins job to contact for de-listing or those worms can sure automatically fill a form there to delist themselves!
I am saying, people blaming SORBS or Spamhaus for their communication problems should be pointing their finger to their IP provider instead.
I am sure Spammers lawyers trusted to that general misunderstanding and wrongly blaming of the "messenger".
"For example when you tell them that they blacklisted your IP address and you can vouche that you don't spam, but they won't do anything because you belong to a/16 where somewhere sombody is spamming."
It also means you share the same ISP who doesn't give a f to security, spam reports from naive people who thinks it will mean something and spare their precious time.
The only thing to make that ISP/IP provider take care is: Move to another ISP which cares about security and quality of customers.
That is not some static thing, it is almost realtime. I am still sure about what you will see there. It never changed past 5 years except addition of zero administrated Poland IP monopoly which is owned by Orange to that list.
So, CNData guys (current mega spammer) are blocked likely by Spamhaus and Spamcop, good riddance. Let them close their God damn open proxy ports and freaking port 135!
CNData IP owners are damaged? Lets say, you hang out with some mafia types as a good citizen and whatever happens, police picks you along with them too. Can you blame the police? Or you should take care about your relations?
Am I harsh? Apologies, I am still reporting spam, even sparing my money and time, I see NOTHING being done, NOTHING AT ALL. Those people are sharing the money with those mobs, I am not american and I don't have to be politically correct all times. Those people doesn't manage their system ON PURPOSE. If you are customer and effected? Find a better managed ISP next time.
I hope Spamhaus also starts a legal fund just like Spamcop. Next time those crooks sue them, they shouldn't just ignore the order, they should sue back with some über evil lawyers and take to their pants including the moron judge losing his/her job!
Let me give bad news, Safari not supported. It was been talked for a while, some even got idea of starting a petition.
Funny and sad fact is, Netscape mail "upgraded" to AOL mail and it is very similar to this Flash/Ajax thing yet works perfectly and supported perfectly on Safari.
I got Omniweb 5.5 stable here, it is running Leopard like Webkit, as it has spoofing capabilities I set it to show it like Firefox latest (Windows) and it didn't work. Doesn't go past login screen, a guy jumps up and down on a baloon. (here,web 2.0 bug report for you!):)
I mean, they got a point for not letting Safari in than. Problem is: They are Yahoo, they could contact Apple about changes/bugfixes they need. Webkit is also open source, they could "fix" themselves too!
Low sales of Apple PPC or entire Power family doesn't mean they are "bad" processors, it means people, ordinary home users can't afford them.
Most of PPC high end processors are used in consoles and those things does 1080p HDTV 3d realtime graphics along with 6 channel minimum positional audio.
I am sure MS Xbox 360 sales and Nintendo already quadrupled total Apple G5 sales. PS 3 coming too and as I said in another story, there are people (including me,if price doesn't change) who will buy PS 3 just for some occasional games but mostly for blu-ray capability and communication capabilities. I mean PS3 sales will surprise everyone.
About the PPC 970, here is something recently shipped:
Note that it is a weird thing not suitable anything outside science, it is for HPC computing and Biological HPC computing particularly.
Thing is, there is IBM giant there along with their super optimised XL compiler range. Apple could never ship stuff like that, even passing -altivec or -fast flag to gcc is a freaking taboo among OS X developers.
IBM never came up and said "here OS X developers, I give my XL compiler for free" or "Here Apple, use this as an option instead of Gcc" or contacted Gnu PowerPC team about possible massive speed ups.
What Apple users don't get is: IBM is really happy to get rid of end users. They sold the business they invented to Chinese, they want to be a service/mainframe/information company. Freescale is that style too, they are happy with PS3/Xbox etc. sales. Nobody is "crying" out there to lose Apple. It is Apple who gave up a 64Bit RISC platform with 128bit Vector unit since they could never actually use it in its full capacity or never gave developers a pro level compiler to automatically use those features.
IBM calls it SIMD/Vector, Apple uses "Altivec", that is confusing people, it always did.
Server admins aren't impressed by "Altivec" like end user impressive terms, they want real spec. That is what IBM does.
Apple even used "Velocity Engine" term. Altivec is an option for the chips, if you decide your server will do lots of vector processing etc, you opt in for it.
Altivec is no where near dead, real coders make use of it. It is Apple's fault (hopefully not intentional) not to come up with something which will make automatic use of that state of art unit.
If it had no use, Terra Soft which is concentrated on making high end HPC clusters wouldn't be around today.
I admit when I first saw it on my brand new G5 (2003) I thought jokingly "Man, enough, they even made kernel panic stylish" and after a while using OS X/Mac I figured it is exactly same reason why they hide boot messages on stylish Apple logo with stylish progress.
They don't want nerdy messages confusing users and still keep them in log file for those interested/would get use of them.
For example,what is the use of this thing for ordinary user who just uses iMovie HD: "Sep 14 14:21:45 localhost kernel[0]: Got boot device = IOService:/MacRISC4PE/ht@0,f2000000/AppleMacRiscHT /pci@9/IOPCI2PCIBridge/k2-sata-root@C/AppleK2SATAR oot/k2-sata@0/AppleK2SATA/ATADeviceNub@0/IOATABloc kStorageDriver/IOATABlockStorageDevice/IOBlockStor ageDriver/Maxtor 6L250M0 Media/IOApplePartitionScheme/Apple_HFS_Untitled_1@ 3"
I remember Linus spoke about non neccessary geek messages while booting Linux kernel making people "afraid" of Linux.
So, if you are ordinary guy who just cares about boot messages if something is broken,it will fall back to "real" thing and show them. If your system is perfectly working, you won't see them. If you CHOOSE to see them, you pass a command to nvram making it "verbose boot". I use verbose boot for 2 weeks since I suspect a usb hub malfunctioning, I "busted" it twice and bought a new one.
Everyone is happy at the end. That is why OS X is called a revolution for Unix desktop.
Ordinary user can't fix/debug a Mach kernel, he/she just need to know "system stopped working" and he/she will just boot again. Why show them RISC or Pentium registers?
BTW, (for others) as all systems (including BSOD windows), if you get those you better check your RAM with a "real" tool, e.g. Apple Hardware test which is given with all Macs. You will be likely surprised.
Let me give a funny number. PS3 is $600 and can play Blu Ray movies.
Blu Ray "deck" is $999:)
I have one friend who bought PS2 just because it has excellent DVD playing capabilities (picture quality etc.). It looks like same guy will buy PS3 for Blu Ray. I think the PS2 uses its CPU capabilities to enhance/correct movie.
If they offer WiFi, IMAP etc, why not? I am sure Linux would run too.
$400 less, you get a state of the art CPU, blu ray, real games (bluray has java too) and multimedia. You can "fold@home" too!
There will be Linux since IBM's partner Terra Soft making PowerPC Exclusive linux for years now. (Yellow Dog Linux).
I bet the genius suit put $999 price tag to BluRay deck must be thinking why sales are slow;)
Compared to my 2500 Quad G5, I agree Quad Xeon workstation works 30% faster even with multiple tests. It is not what I talk about, if a company claims their new model is 5x faster, or gives the impression it is not a company to be taken serious.
I know a HD capable movie studio (Hollywood specs) admin who told me "This is exactly why we ignored Apple based solutions" while Steve Jobs explaining how "horrible" powerPC was.
Did you ever see Tyan, IBM, Sun attack their previous models while shipping a new one?
About Single Core G5s used on servers? Well, why didn't they offer dual core G5 for servers? Why they didn't implement ECC? What was stopping them? Lets say they move to AMD next year,what will stop them claiming Intel was 5x slower or how horrible and drop the second hand value of server grade machines to floor?
If we are speaking about Blade, there are well established companies who cares more about these stuff than iTunes anyway. As they switched to Intel, I can and will compare to real players like Sun, IBM and Tyan. They run Intel/Power/AMD since they aren't bound to some exclusive deal with Intel, they are FREE to choose what to offer.
First of all, all this happened because IBM or Freescale didn't give a shit to Apple's constant whining for Mhz while everyone including Intel which introduced this stupid thing isn't using the term anymore. It NEVER MEANT anything anyway.
Secondly, here is your "citation": "And this award-winning UNIX-based server just got a 5x (1) performance boost over the Xserve G5, thanks to quad-core 64-bit Intel Xeon processing. "
They can decide to become iPod manufacturing, fashion toy selling, 640x480 DRM Stereo movie distributing company but if they claim a piece of overloaded CISC is 5x faster, it is where to say "Oh come on".
That is what I am doing. They really need more people doing it so they won't go out of business or become a portable music player company. They told us to "switch" to PPC,RISC platform, we switched back in 2003, they (and their fanboys) should get used to some criticism. I didn't join some CULT, I bought a freaking computer. Just like telling how stupid decision Intel made by not supporting RDRAM prices a bit and wasting Pentium 4, I will say it is really stupid for Apple to move to Intel but there was no choice, nobody gives a shit to a company having 4% of market and keeps bad mouthing their products just because THEY COULDN'T AFFORD higher specs or price didn't fit.
Whoever bought a XServe from Apple just months ago and watch their $30k server gets bad words just to add some additional RDF for cult/fanboys cheering should be posting this, not me btw.
As ex Amiga person, reading the first line, "32bit from the start" on 68k still makes me mad to Wintel monopoly and Apple jumping... Anyway. What is done is done.:)
If you want to run a OS more Apple like and supported Apple-like, you can buy Terrasoft Yellow Dog Linux but they are a bit High Performance Computing (HPC) oriented.
I can nearly guarantee it will be offered as option on these products.
After Apple claimed their new XServe Intel runs 5x faster than their G5 based Xserve, I would suggest not to select them as a serious server vendor.
As a Quad G5 owner I am actually afraid to install Yellow Dog Linux here while my machine is supported. What would happen if I see 2x faster running machine? Serious..
When IBM says "Power" or "Cell" processor, they speak about an architecture standard which is relatively open, check info about it on their new http://www.power.org/
For example while not planning a game console, NEC is also in Power board as well as Toshiba. I can think NEC cares about their supercomputing division and Toshiba cares about their future media plans.
Those Cell processors they use will not be the same thing Ps3 runs. For example while my Quad G5 (PPC970) 2500 Mhz is fine for pro HD work if necessary upgrades (SCSI,HDI etc) done, a "real" Power5 AIX workstation used in petrol industry, military etc. would show it as a toy. It has near mainframe features packed to a workstation.
That was why the electronics/optics industry warning them publicly, to end this HD-DVD and BluRay fight in rational way since those lasers are state of the art and not that easy to produce.
3% of total PowerPC, yes that is FreeScale official number, if we add the IBM 970 (G5), it will be likely 5%. For people can't believe what they read: Yes, Apple only bought 5% of Power architecture CPUs, in their entire life. If you have a good quality car, you likely have 8-10 Power architecture CPUs.
You can't blame anyone for thinking Power architecture, a living legend or empire is dead after Apple moved away, Apple is run by Steve Jobs who is a publicity genius.
I am sure IBM or Freescale will think twice before doing any business with Apple in the future since Apple attacked PowerPC more than Intel etc. ever dared.
They now claim Xeon based Servers are 5x faster than G5 (yes,PPC970) and their fanboys cheering. Fanboys don't make million dollar server purchases though.
I just wonder what happened to second hand value of those $40.000+ Xserve G5 setups after Mr. Jobs and Apple called them 5x slower. Well, that is what you get for choosing a portable audio oriented company for your server setup instead of IBM or Sun.;)
I think it is IBM and FreeScale dumped Apple not vice versa.
PS: I own Quad G5 and purchased months after Intel announcement.;)
If people blindly buy products without checking their specs or thinking at all, they won't have to "fill" HDTV market.
Check Mac sites, all praising Apple for such "invention", nobody argues about buying lower-than-dvd resolution and plain stereo content for same price as DVD.
Perhaps Apple trusts to this?
It is 2006, I demand 720p (at least) and 5.1 sound. Everyone should.
I don't think any company would care ripping for strict personal use. Legally they care but in real life?
I still buy original Audio CDs , listen to them once, unless they are classical or jazz, I rip them to AAC, others I use "lossless".
What would bother companies is , if I start up a file sharing application and distribute them to everyone on internet.
Speaking about Mac community, majority of people who use "ripping" are people who OWN the original DVD and just want to archive it or watch on their device (not just iPod). That is why those developers (most of them freeware) aren't investigated by MPAA etc. Remember, whole Hollywood uses macs and they know/use versiontracker site and its top 10 listing.;)
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That is the problem, you never used a Mac at high level, like installing a driver or software update. The Mac "Admin" still asked for password while trying to do critical things, Windows admin doesn't. There are thousands of Mac users who run regular user and still enjoy all capacity of system, games etc. Windows users CAN'T.
I used windows (all versions) and OS X, I know the difference. I tried to run windows like normal user, at end I found myself copying my "regular user" directory to Administrator directory and installing paranoid stuff all over my machine. It simply didn't work.
Normally I would say "Oh another hacker, not hacker fight" but your post makes perfect sense since just 2 stories below, posted by Zonk again, says:
"IT: How Hackers Identify Their Targets
Posted by Zonk on 0:07 16th September, 2006
from the drawing-a-bead dept.
narramissic writes "In a recent article, security guru Brent Huston writes about research he did to get inside the minds of spammers and expose some of the processes they use to identify potential targets. "
The "hacker" term used there is in spammer/zombie master/phisher context. Just 1 story below!
Well site works, if the Quad 950 does make their publishing needs good no need to upgrade and it is also completely wrong to give .k12 school machine links on Slashdot saying "just check", it may render server useless since they are not planned to take hits from Slashdot.
;)
Theoretically you can code a full feature site via text editor.
Oops, Schubert IT plugin (http://schubert-it.com/) is NOT effected by first link, it loads web page , doesn't open another link.
Apologies, I misunderstood the problem.
Again, launching a URL on Windows could be disaster.
It launches INSIDE the plugin, plugin renders the web browser and it looks very functional, that "first" link, it loads google.co.uk fine.
More interestingly, as many of Mac users got sick of Adobe or Apple PDF plugins, I use Schubert IT browser plugin (free for non commercial use) inside Omniweb 5.5
Now, this is Mac and OS X... No known "go to page and get spyware if your system not updated" stuff around.
This is big deal for Windows.
As you are a slashdot user, I don't have to explain what happens if your local ISP deals with devil and decides to snoop yes?
:)
Careful I would say. Spamhaus only cares about MAJOR spam operations. If it is major operation and your ISP deals with them, it should really,really alert you as an online entity.
If you see my other messages I am actually victim of some moron zombie windows machine which spammed whole planet and got into SORBS, I really remember contacting my ISP about delisting and also used their easy web form hoping someone (The Postmaster!) will delist IP with one click.
Guess what? I am still there, my IP is in "open proxy" database. Do I blame SORBS? Hell no!
It is my moron ISP who let their customer spam whole planet with open proxy, not disconnecting him and explaining what that guy must do when he calls "My modem lights are off". As they don't click a freaking URL in a plain/simple english message, I am expecting too much of course.
Is there/Will there be a law allowing spammers do business in Chicago or Illinois?
Is there a database of those IPs assigned to that area? If something like that happens I am sure spammers who aren't stupid will move the operations to that area and Illinois IP will end up documented on some text file free for everyone to add their MANUAL bounce lists. Nobody can stop anyone from doing it.
Just like Korea,China and (unfortunately, due to Orange owned tpnet) Poland.
When people start blocking IP space they generally don't remove them back. Illinois (legit) businesses and netizens should be careful.
I mean lets say, Korean govt. bought billion dollar amount of antivirus and firewall software and forced everyone to install cleaning up entire country from organised Spammers like those awarded millions... It is of course:Impossible. Even it was possible, it will take YEARS for filters etc. catch on.
Those guys awarded money are no less than any other kind of mafia. They are just modern mafia.
It is not "poor lady got tricked by pyramid scheme and sending everyone spam manually" anymore. 99% of spam comes from worms/zombies which were sponsored by those mobs.
Their site says 'Please contact us with questions about this case or to INQUIRE ABOUT OUR MARKETING SERVICES." (yea, right!). As a person reporting spam for years instead of ignoring, I see we are dealing with some dark, botnet connected, worm author hiring, open proxy bidding company here.
;)
Such people are very advanced , they aren't stupid to spam via their own domain/IPs or distribute spyware/spamware (yes exists) via their own space.
So, if you check their IP space, they are clean.
It makes me wonder if large spam reporting organisations such as Spamcop or large device vendors like Ironport (Spamcops parent) and famous http://www.cyveillance.com/ can't provide evidence to court or spamhaus?
They have terabytes or petabytes of spam in their hand.
I don't think anyone including those crooks can mess with Cyvelliance
Spam is a million dollar dirty business which even moved to "automatic" , "worm coder hired", "p2p shared" and "paid" thing.
If I was technical media,I would investigate the judge. If a mafia boss wrongfully released and reporter who investigates his wrongful actions go to jail,what would traditional media would do? IT media should start being real reporters, not some "New iPod images leaked" type of things.
I remember old times you could actually fight/argue with the spammer since it was a real person.
Those big time spammers are hiring worm coders to carry their business now and I heard even some "bidding" involved. There is no more "let me get a free AOL account and spam everyone" HUMAN around. It is all advanced AI code even including advanced OCR schemes.
Right now I can't logon to IRCnet since some moron using my IP was infected by a worm and became zombie for ages. I have to speak to a friend who only frequents there, I am a "victim" of SORBS... Not!
It is MY ISP who didn't care about numerous spam reports (must be no less than thousands) coming from Spamcop or numerous other ways of reporting. It is THEM who didn't care, it is THEM who still didn't care to contact SORBS (for sure!) for de-listing (even automatic) of IP which belongs to a OS X computer now. It is IP admins job to contact for de-listing or those worms can sure automatically fill a form there to delist themselves!
I am saying, people blaming SORBS or Spamhaus for their communication problems should be pointing their finger to their IP provider instead.
I am sure Spammers lawyers trusted to that general misunderstanding and wrongly blaming of the "messenger".
"For example when you tell them that they blacklisted your IP address and you can vouche that you don't spam, but they won't do anything because you belong to a /16 where somewhere sombody is spamming."
; mask=16777215;sort=spamcnt /16 blocks based on total spam count"
It also means you share the same ISP who doesn't give a f to security, spam reports from naive people who thinks it will mean something and spare their precious time.
The only thing to make that ISP/IP provider take care is: Move to another ISP which cares about security and quality of customers.
You will figure what I mean by checking this:
http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=map;net=bmaxcnt
"Worst
That is not some static thing, it is almost realtime. I am still sure about what you will see there. It never changed past 5 years except addition of zero administrated Poland IP monopoly which is owned by Orange to that list.
So, CNData guys (current mega spammer) are blocked likely by Spamhaus and Spamcop, good riddance. Let them close their God damn open proxy ports and freaking port 135!
CNData IP owners are damaged? Lets say, you hang out with some mafia types as a good citizen and whatever happens, police picks you along with them too. Can you blame the police? Or you should take care about your relations?
Am I harsh? Apologies, I am still reporting spam, even sparing my money and time, I see NOTHING being done, NOTHING AT ALL. Those people are sharing the money with those mobs, I am not american and I don't have to be politically correct all times. Those people doesn't manage their system ON PURPOSE. If you are customer and effected? Find a better managed ISP next time.
I hope Spamhaus also starts a legal fund just like Spamcop. Next time those crooks sue them, they shouldn't just ignore the order, they should sue back with some über evil lawyers and take to their pants including the moron judge losing his/her job!
Let me give bad news, Safari not supported. It was been talked for a while, some even got idea of starting a petition.
:)
Funny and sad fact is, Netscape mail "upgraded" to AOL mail and it is very similar to this Flash/Ajax thing yet works perfectly and supported perfectly on Safari.
I got Omniweb 5.5 stable here, it is running Leopard like Webkit, as it has spoofing capabilities I set it to show it like Firefox latest (Windows) and it didn't work. Doesn't go past login screen, a guy jumps up and down on a baloon. (here,web 2.0 bug report for you!)
I mean, they got a point for not letting Safari in than. Problem is: They are Yahoo, they could contact Apple about changes/bugfixes they need. Webkit is also open source, they could "fix" themselves too!
Low sales of Apple PPC or entire Power family doesn't mean they are "bad" processors, it means people, ordinary home users can't afford them.
l owdog-announce/2006-September/000123.html
Most of PPC high end processors are used in consoles and those things does 1080p HDTV 3d realtime graphics along with 6 channel minimum positional audio.
I am sure MS Xbox 360 sales and Nintendo already quadrupled total Apple G5 sales. PS 3 coming too and as I said in another story, there are people (including me,if price doesn't change) who will buy PS 3 just for some occasional games but mostly for blu-ray capability and communication capabilities. I mean PS3 sales will surprise everyone.
About the PPC 970, here is something recently shipped:
http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yel
The default configuration of the Y-Bio JS21 Cluster includes:
- Dual-core, dual-CPU 2.5GHz IBM 970s.
- 4GB RAM per blade (1GB per core).
- 73GB SATA drive per blade.
- Y-HPC Cluster Construction Suite.
- Y-Bio bioinformatics suite.
- Yellow Dog Linux.
Note that it is a weird thing not suitable anything outside science, it is for HPC computing and Biological HPC computing particularly.
Thing is, there is IBM giant there along with their super optimised XL compiler range. Apple could never ship stuff like that, even passing -altivec or -fast flag to gcc is a freaking taboo among OS X developers.
IBM never came up and said "here OS X developers, I give my XL compiler for free" or "Here Apple, use this as an option instead of Gcc" or contacted Gnu PowerPC team about possible massive speed ups.
What Apple users don't get is: IBM is really happy to get rid of end users. They sold the business they invented to Chinese, they want to be a service/mainframe/information company. Freescale is that style too, they are happy with PS3/Xbox etc. sales. Nobody is "crying" out there to lose Apple. It is Apple who gave up a 64Bit RISC platform with 128bit Vector unit since they could never actually use it in its full capacity or never gave developers a pro level compiler to automatically use those features.
IBM calls it SIMD/Vector, Apple uses "Altivec", that is confusing people, it always did.
l owdog-announce/2006-September/000123.html
;)
Server admins aren't impressed by "Altivec" like end user impressive terms, they want real spec. That is what IBM does.
Apple even used "Velocity Engine" term. Altivec is an option for the chips, if you decide your server will do lots of vector processing etc, you opt in for it.
Altivec is no where near dead, real coders make use of it. It is Apple's fault (hopefully not intentional) not to come up with something which will make automatic use of that state of art unit.
If it had no use, Terra Soft which is concentrated on making high end HPC clusters wouldn't be around today.
For example this new HPC beast runs PPC 970:
http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yel
Thanks to constant bullshit coming from my vendor and his fanboys, I became kind of PPC and Linux news watcher.
At least we won't be left out in the cold as rumoured
I admit when I first saw it on my brand new G5 (2003) I thought jokingly "Man, enough, they even made kernel panic stylish" and after a while using OS X/Mac I figured it is exactly same reason why they hide boot messages on stylish Apple logo with stylish progress.
T /pci@9/IOPCI2PCIBridge/k2-sata-root@C/AppleK2SATAR oot/k2-sata@0/AppleK2SATA/ATADeviceNub@0/IOATABloc kStorageDriver/IOATABlockStorageDevice/IOBlockStor ageDriver/Maxtor 6L250M0 Media/IOApplePartitionScheme/Apple_HFS_Untitled_1@ 3"
They don't want nerdy messages confusing users and still keep them in log file for those interested/would get use of them.
For example,what is the use of this thing for ordinary user who just uses iMovie HD:
"Sep 14 14:21:45 localhost kernel[0]: Got boot device = IOService:/MacRISC4PE/ht@0,f2000000/AppleMacRiscH
I remember Linus spoke about non neccessary geek messages while booting Linux kernel making people "afraid" of Linux.
So, if you are ordinary guy who just cares about boot messages if something is broken,it will fall back to "real" thing and show them. If your system is perfectly working, you won't see them. If you CHOOSE to see them, you pass a command to nvram making it "verbose boot". I use verbose boot for 2 weeks since I suspect a usb hub malfunctioning, I "busted" it twice and bought a new one.
Everyone is happy at the end. That is why OS X is called a revolution for Unix desktop.
Ordinary user can't fix/debug a Mach kernel, he/she just need to know "system stopped working" and he/she will just boot again. Why show them RISC or Pentium registers?
BTW, (for others) as all systems (including BSOD windows), if you get those you better check your RAM with a "real" tool, e.g. Apple Hardware test which is given with all Macs. You will be likely surprised.
Let me give a funny number. PS3 is $600 and can play Blu Ray movies.
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Blu Ray "deck" is $999
I have one friend who bought PS2 just because it has excellent DVD playing capabilities (picture quality etc.). It looks like same guy will buy PS3 for Blu Ray. I think the PS2 uses its CPU capabilities to enhance/correct movie.
If they offer WiFi, IMAP etc, why not? I am sure Linux would run too.
$400 less, you get a state of the art CPU, blu ray, real games (bluray has java too) and multimedia. You can "fold@home" too!
There will be Linux since IBM's partner Terra Soft making PowerPC Exclusive linux for years now. (Yellow Dog Linux).
I bet the genius suit put $999 price tag to BluRay deck must be thinking why sales are slow
Compared to my 2500 Quad G5, I agree Quad Xeon workstation works 30% faster even with multiple tests. It is not what I talk about, if a company claims their new model is 5x faster, or gives the impression it is not a company to be taken serious.
I know a HD capable movie studio (Hollywood specs) admin who told me "This is exactly why we ignored Apple based solutions" while Steve Jobs explaining how "horrible" powerPC was.
Did you ever see Tyan, IBM, Sun attack their previous models while shipping a new one?
About Single Core G5s used on servers? Well, why didn't they offer dual core G5 for servers? Why they didn't implement ECC? What was stopping them? Lets say they move to AMD next year,what will stop them claiming Intel was 5x slower or how horrible and drop the second hand value of server grade machines to floor?
If we are speaking about Blade, there are well established companies who cares more about these stuff than iTunes anyway. As they switched to Intel, I can and will compare to real players like Sun, IBM and Tyan. They run Intel/Power/AMD since they aren't bound to some exclusive deal with Intel, they are FREE to choose what to offer.
First of all, all this happened because IBM or Freescale didn't give a shit to Apple's constant whining for Mhz while everyone including Intel which introduced this stupid thing isn't using the term anymore. It NEVER MEANT anything anyway.
Secondly, here is your "citation":
"And this award-winning UNIX-based server just got a 5x (1) performance boost over the Xserve G5, thanks to quad-core 64-bit Intel Xeon processing. "
http://www.apple.com/xserve/
They can decide to become iPod manufacturing, fashion toy selling, 640x480 DRM Stereo movie distributing company but if they claim a piece of overloaded CISC is 5x faster, it is where to say "Oh come on".
That is what I am doing. They really need more people doing it so they won't go out of business or become a portable music player company. They told us to "switch" to PPC,RISC platform, we switched back in 2003, they (and their fanboys) should get used to some criticism. I didn't join some CULT, I bought a freaking computer. Just like telling how stupid decision Intel made by not supporting RDRAM prices a bit and wasting Pentium 4, I will say it is really stupid for Apple to move to Intel but there was no choice, nobody gives a shit to a company having 4% of market and keeps bad mouthing their products just because THEY COULDN'T AFFORD higher specs or price didn't fit.
Whoever bought a XServe from Apple just months ago and watch their $30k server gets bad words just to add some additional RDF for cult/fanboys cheering should be posting this, not me btw.
As Ex Amiga owner I can say 68k has nothing to do with Power architecture. One is CISC (68k) and other is RISC from beginning.
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Motorola joined IBM producing RISC CPU instead of upgrading their 68k line.
I can understand your confusion since Apple and Amiga (via extension board) moved to PPC 603 from Motorola 68k.
I am not a programmer but RISC chips are famous for their reduced registers and commands, to run instructions in less cycles.
Better give you pointer written by real programmers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/68k -->68000 family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerpc --> PowerPC
As ex Amiga person, reading the first line, "32bit from the start" on 68k still makes me mad to Wintel monopoly and Apple jumping... Anyway. What is done is done.
If you want to run a OS more Apple like and supported Apple-like, you can buy Terrasoft Yellow Dog Linux but they are a bit High Performance Computing (HPC) oriented.
I can nearly guarantee it will be offered as option on these products.
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/
They are in Power board now too.
After Apple claimed their new XServe Intel runs 5x faster than their G5 based Xserve, I would suggest not to select them as a serious server vendor.
As a Quad G5 owner I am actually afraid to install Yellow Dog Linux here while my machine is supported. What would happen if I see 2x faster running machine? Serious..
When IBM says "Power" or "Cell" processor, they speak about an architecture standard which is relatively open, check info about it on their new http://www.power.org/
For example while not planning a game console, NEC is also in Power board as well as Toshiba. I can think NEC cares about their supercomputing division and Toshiba cares about their future media plans.
Those Cell processors they use will not be the same thing Ps3 runs. For example while my Quad G5 (PPC970) 2500 Mhz is fine for pro HD work if necessary upgrades (SCSI,HDI etc) done, a "real" Power5 AIX workstation used in petrol industry, military etc. would show it as a toy. It has near mainframe features packed to a workstation.
In case you aren't joking/sarcasm, PS3 was pushed for Europe because of the BluRay lasers couldn't be produced in timely manner.
_ Delay_in_Europe/1157552739
http://www.betanews.com/article/Bluray_Causes_PS3
That was why the electronics/optics industry warning them publicly, to end this HD-DVD and BluRay fight in rational way since those lasers are state of the art and not that easy to produce.
3% of total PowerPC, yes that is FreeScale official number, if we add the IBM 970 (G5), it will be likely 5%. For people can't believe what they read: Yes, Apple only bought 5% of Power architecture CPUs, in their entire life. If you have a good quality car, you likely have 8-10 Power architecture CPUs.
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You can't blame anyone for thinking Power architecture, a living legend or empire is dead after Apple moved away, Apple is run by Steve Jobs who is a publicity genius.
I am sure IBM or Freescale will think twice before doing any business with Apple in the future since Apple attacked PowerPC more than Intel etc. ever dared.
They now claim Xeon based Servers are 5x faster than G5 (yes,PPC970) and their fanboys cheering. Fanboys don't make million dollar server purchases though.
I just wonder what happened to second hand value of those $40.000+ Xserve G5 setups after Mr. Jobs and Apple called them 5x slower. Well, that is what you get for choosing a portable audio oriented company for your server setup instead of IBM or Sun.
I think it is IBM and FreeScale dumped Apple not vice versa.
PS: I own Quad G5 and purchased months after Intel announcement.
If people blindly buy products without checking their specs or thinking at all, they won't have to "fill" HDTV market.
Check Mac sites, all praising Apple for such "invention", nobody argues about buying lower-than-dvd resolution and plain stereo content for same price as DVD.
Perhaps Apple trusts to this?
It is 2006, I demand 720p (at least) and 5.1 sound. Everyone should.
I don't think any company would care ripping for strict personal use. Legally they care but in real life?
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I still buy original Audio CDs , listen to them once, unless they are classical or jazz, I rip them to AAC, others I use "lossless".
What would bother companies is , if I start up a file sharing application and distribute them to everyone on internet.
Speaking about Mac community, majority of people who use "ripping" are people who OWN the original DVD and just want to archive it or watch on their device (not just iPod). That is why those developers (most of them freeware) aren't investigated by MPAA etc. Remember, whole Hollywood uses macs and they know/use versiontracker site and its top 10 listing.