This is the exact point being refuted. Those beliefs are not mainstream mormon beliefs any more than 'santiera" is christian.
My point is that the mainstream mormon beliefs are incompatible with christianity. The only way they give the impression they are christian is by hiding / not sharing some very incompatible beliefs.
"6" below is a biggy in particular.
Some major points from here (http://www.irr.org/mit/is-mormonism-christian.html) Again, I'm not christian or mormon.
1. mormons teach that there are many Gods and that we can become gods and goddesses in the celestial kingdom and that those who achieve godhood will have spirit children who will worship and pray to them, just as we worship and pray to God the Father.
2. god was a man (flesh and blood- not jesus- god) with a father and grandfather like us who progressed to become a god.
3. jesus is our elder brother who progressed to godhood, having first been procreated as a spirit child by Heavenly Father and a heavenly mother; He was later conceived physically through intercourse between Heavenly Father and the virgin Mary and Jesus and Lucifer are brothers.
4. the Mormon Church teaches that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate Gods and that jesus and the Holy Ghost are the literal offspring of Heavenly Father and a celestial wife (vs the trinity (three who are one) in bible)
5. Adam's sin was "a necessary step in the plan of life and a great blessing to all of us".
6. eternal life in the presence of God (which it terms "exaltation in the celestial kingdom") must be earned through obedience to all the commands of the Mormon Church, including exclusive Mormon temple rituals. (Sorry but that isn't going to save you... IF you are a christian).
And the page goes on....
I always say, "I'm okay, you're frakkin crazy".. oh.. wait.. no "I'm okay, you're okay" as long as you leave me alone. However, it annoys me that mormons lie about and hide basic facts of their religion so they can pretend to be christians. They are no more christians than bhuddists are. Mormons *are* a mainstream religion and not a cult these days- they have a lot of followers.
--- And back to the point- those wackjobs in Texas were not mormons.
While I think the mormons are not christians (I'm not a christian either...) and they have their own uniquely goofy beliefs, I do not think the guys in texas were any more mormons than david koresh or jim jones were christians.
You really can't keep real wackos from setting up a cult and claiming to be of your faith. Just as the "real" (tm) mormons can't stop the texan guys, the "real" (tm) christians can't stop the mormons from claiming to be christians. Hopefully as they grow confident in their own religion, they will stop trying to imply they are christians.
The thing out in texas was just a wierd little cult using the mormon name tho. It was not following current mormon beliefs and it was not part of the business/financial structure of the current mormon church. If it had been a part of the "real" (tm) mormon church, it's members would have probably been excommunicated.
If China achieves the power of the U.S. without losing the face/superiority/national pride issues, tibet is the very least of the world's problems. And the outcome won't be any good for china either. China is at war with the U.S., India, Russia and the west in general. They are doing quite well right now. And our businesses are helping them because we let them keep their nationalistic/racial superiority attitude (communism is the *least* of the problems in comparison) while letting them increase their wealth and power.
The *chinese* people, as a group view themselves as natural, deserving rulers of the world. They have a monstrous superiority/inferiority complex. We need to sloooooow them down, interbreed with them and give them time to normalize to the rest of the world so they develop liberal factions that view themselves as just humans who happen to be chinese. Sure they have some now-- but not nearly enough.
When the world has 2 billion, it's a paradise. When the world has 11 billion, it will be approaching hell.
Almost certainly a lot of the most wonderful areas will be roped off for a tenth of a percent of the population since if everyone when there, they would destroy those places.
And when water gets short, you are talking billions of death. Eventually we will become callous to death as they were in the middle ages.
Robbing the shareholders is different than not maximizing profits. I might be able to get maximal profits by killing you.
Google is helping to censor and erase the existence of chinese citizens. Yahoo is helping to imprison people for their speech.
Both are giving aid and comfort to an enemy government-- allowing it the benefits of a free society without having to pay the costs of being a free society. Personally, I hope at some point they get nationalized by China or somehow otherwise abused as most totalitarian governments who do not respect the rule of law do to their citizens and business people.
There are almost certainly other judges who would have taken the same law and applied it differently. There is always wiggle room. As others point out here, if the law is so solid then GOOG stock should be plummeting because they are on the hook for more than they are worth because they LINK to sites that LINK to copyrighted data as well as LINKING to copyrighted data directly.
Saying a link is the same as actually offering you the copyrighted data means that almost *every* sight is liable for copyright infringement. Because *everything* on the internet links to *everything* eventually.
This judge chose to interpret the law in the harshest way forward and/or no opposing lawyers and technical experts explained to him the implications of his ruling. This ruling will be overturned when it is used against a well funded defendent.
The current ruling is as stupid as saying "an I.P. uniquely identifies a human user" which after 3 or 4 years is finally starting to fail. Since the judge is in california and I believe takes california interests to heart and was almost certainly hand-picked by the RIAA lawyers as a "friendly" judge based on past rulings I do not agree with your naive image of him as some impartial jurist enforcing the law without prejudice.
It's also the societal norm tho-- they didn't used to post signs limiting you at buffets because folks were reasonable.
In theory, one person can consume the entire bandwidth of an ISP. And people (including some posters here) are not behaving "reasonably" so we get the "tragedy of the commons" and they are forced to put in limits.
OTH, I think our current costs reflect the many monopolies they have. If there were competition, the bandwidth would be rising as these new bandwidth uses developed. Internet as Cable is going to be a gross amount of bandwidth.
I think this is going to be an issue as folks use the internet as cable. I don't think 250gb will affect normal P2P much. It took me about 15 months to download one terrabyte of data so that is about 80 gig a month.
The problem is... 250 now... then 200... then 150...
The other problem is... 200mb shows now... 700mb shows three years from now (as we all go HD).
People wouldn't pirate if prices were reasonable. If anime were $22 instead of $80, I would buy it. Sometimes, it's easier to wait for prices to come down than to download (X-Files, La Femme Nikita, Get Smart).
I currently have a 1,000 hour backlog of things to watch on purchased DVD's. That's enough that some things, i will probably never ever see.
Corp spends a few million a year on M$ so we all get the top 8-10 M$ products for physical production costs for use at home. Actually, i think we get it below physical production costs.
So an Article III judge social life has nothing to do with their outlook on the law? I don't think so. I think this california resident likely has strong pro-hollywood/copyright personal views.
However, I did read here later that the defendent blew the judge off and didn't appear in court... and i know that jduges everywhere are pretty evil when that happens. So maybe that was the reason for this unrealistic judgement.
Probably could have happened anywhere else too.. california industries and contributions and political connections had nothing to do with the judgement. I'm sure it was very fair and impartial.
OOo will frequently lack features in word... it's in a stern chase after all.
However, OOo is FREE and will only get better.
Most new Microsoft Word features are pretty obscure on the other hand and some of the recent changes make it harder to use.
M$ Word is a GREAT product.. that * Costs a lot of money for most (tho I can get it legally for $20) * Has planned obsolescence * Can't read older word documents that OOo can. * Crashes reading corrupted word documents which OOo *easily* reads and fixes.
---
Now... The kicker is this... I recently finally made the change over to OOo as of 2.4. Already, there are some things which are so much cleaner and so much more logical that I miss those features when I bring up word. Word just does some things nonsensically due to its history.
And already, there are some features in OOo which I miss in M$ Word (the cropping is SOOOOOO much easier and clearer in OOo than word-- working feels cleaner too).
---
So Ooo is like 9/9/9/10/9/10 while word is 10/10/9/9/10/10. Both are very good-- Both are better in some areas. When you consider price, drm, and obsolescence tho OOo 10, M$ 1.
You left off paying "property tax" on your "property" at its fair value (each year about 3% of gross sales income for the prior year). Failure to pay property tax results in the product going to the public domain.
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This is the exact point being refuted. Those beliefs are not mainstream mormon beliefs any more than 'santiera" is christian.
My point is that the mainstream mormon beliefs are incompatible with christianity. The only way they give the impression they are christian is by hiding / not sharing some very incompatible beliefs.
"6" below is a biggy in particular.
Some major points from here (http://www.irr.org/mit/is-mormonism-christian.html) Again, I'm not christian or mormon.
1. mormons teach that there are many Gods and that we can become gods and goddesses in the celestial kingdom and that those who achieve godhood will have spirit children who will worship and pray to them, just as we worship and pray to God the Father.
2. god was a man (flesh and blood- not jesus- god) with a father and grandfather like us who progressed to become a god.
3. jesus is our elder brother who progressed to godhood, having first been procreated as a spirit child by Heavenly Father and a heavenly mother; He was later conceived physically through intercourse between Heavenly Father and the virgin Mary and Jesus and Lucifer are brothers.
4. the Mormon Church teaches that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate Gods and that jesus and the Holy Ghost are the literal offspring of Heavenly Father and a celestial wife (vs the trinity (three who are one) in bible)
5. Adam's sin was "a necessary step in the plan of life and a great blessing to all of us".
6. eternal life in the presence of God (which it terms "exaltation in the celestial kingdom") must be earned through obedience to all the commands of the Mormon Church, including exclusive Mormon temple rituals. (Sorry but that isn't going to save you... IF you are a christian).
And the page goes on....
I always say, "I'm okay, you're frakkin crazy".. oh.. wait.. no "I'm okay, you're okay" as long as you leave me alone. However, it annoys me that mormons lie about and hide basic facts of their religion so they can pretend to be christians. They are no more christians than bhuddists are. Mormons *are* a mainstream religion and not a cult these days- they have a lot of followers.
---
And back to the point- those wackjobs in Texas were not mormons.
Something like... "The chinese national news reports tonight that 85% of chinese citizens like censorship".
While I think the mormons are not christians (I'm not a christian either...) and they have their own uniquely goofy beliefs, I do not think the guys in texas were any more mormons than david koresh or jim jones were christians.
You really can't keep real wackos from setting up a cult and claiming to be of your faith. Just as the "real" (tm) mormons can't stop the texan guys, the "real" (tm) christians can't stop the mormons from claiming to be christians. Hopefully as they grow confident in their own religion, they will stop trying to imply they are christians.
The thing out in texas was just a wierd little cult using the mormon name tho. It was not following current mormon beliefs and it was not part of the business/financial structure of the current mormon church. If it had been a part of the "real" (tm) mormon church, it's members would have probably been excommunicated.
It may be that your prior learning for 20 years is blocking you from seeing how easy Blender is.
... Blender may just stuck as bad as GIMP. :)
Some fantastic procedural programmers just never get the object oriented model for example.
There was another post in this thread where the poster said that after several months, it was faster in Blender.
I know I struggled with Openoffice for a couple years before suddenly "getting it" and now it seems easier than Word.
Or
$369 for a great 800x600 projector from Fry's.
Options range from bushes, to fake rocks, to a small 3'x3' wooden enclosure.
And the only way to fix a post where you made a mistake is to repost it.
And the olny weigh to fix a p
But my driving skill is still better there than 70% of the drivers on the road who are not distracted?
Ah well... nanny state continues unabated.
For about the last 58 years.
If China achieves the power of the U.S. without losing the face/superiority/national pride issues, tibet is the very least of the world's problems. And the outcome won't be any good for china either. China is at war with the U.S., India, Russia and the west in general. They are doing quite well right now. And our businesses are helping them because we let them keep their nationalistic/racial superiority attitude (communism is the *least* of the problems in comparison) while letting them increase their wealth and power.
People are too focused on the Chinese government.
The *chinese* people, as a group view themselves as natural, deserving rulers of the world. They have a monstrous superiority/inferiority complex. We need to sloooooow them down, interbreed with them and give them time to normalize to the rest of the world so they develop liberal factions that view themselves as just humans who happen to be chinese. Sure they have some now-- but not nearly enough.
When the world has 2 billion, it's a paradise.
When the world has 11 billion, it will be approaching hell.
Almost certainly a lot of the most wonderful areas will be roped off for a tenth of a percent of the population since if everyone when there, they would destroy those places.
And when water gets short, you are talking billions of death. Eventually we will become callous to death as they were in the middle ages.
I think the chinese government and chinese citizens still have way too much nationalism and sense of manifest destiny to be trusted much yet.
Robbing the shareholders is different than not maximizing profits.
I might be able to get maximal profits by killing you.
Google is helping to censor and erase the existence of chinese citizens. Yahoo is helping to imprison people for their speech.
Both are giving aid and comfort to an enemy government-- allowing it the benefits of a free society without having to pay the costs of being a free society. Personally, I hope at some point they get nationalized by China or somehow otherwise abused as most totalitarian governments who do not respect the rule of law do to their citizens and business people.
You are a lot less cynical than I am.
There are almost certainly other judges who would have taken the same law and applied it differently. There is always wiggle room. As others point out here, if the law is so solid then GOOG stock should be plummeting because they are on the hook for more than they are worth because they LINK to sites that LINK to copyrighted data as well as LINKING to copyrighted data directly.
Saying a link is the same as actually offering you the copyrighted data means that almost *every* sight is liable for copyright infringement. Because *everything* on the internet links to *everything* eventually.
This judge chose to interpret the law in the harshest way forward and/or no opposing lawyers and technical experts explained to him the implications of his ruling. This ruling will be overturned when it is used against a well funded defendent.
The current ruling is as stupid as saying "an I.P. uniquely identifies a human user" which after 3 or 4 years is finally starting to fail. Since the judge is in california and I believe takes california interests to heart and was almost certainly hand-picked by the RIAA lawyers as a "friendly" judge based on past rulings I do not agree with your naive image of him as some impartial jurist enforcing the law without prejudice.
And the message was...
Don't host U.S. material on servers in the U.S.
Don't do this if you are a U.S. citizen.
It's also the societal norm tho-- they didn't used to post signs limiting you at buffets because folks were reasonable.
In theory, one person can consume the entire bandwidth of an ISP. And people (including some posters here) are not behaving "reasonably" so we get the "tragedy of the commons" and they are forced to put in limits.
OTH, I think our current costs reflect the many monopolies they have. If there were competition, the bandwidth would be rising as these new bandwidth uses developed. Internet as Cable is going to be a gross amount of bandwidth.
And carry over unused bandwidth to next month.
So I could use 20,20,500,20,20.
I think this is going to be an issue as folks use the internet as cable. I don't think 250gb will affect normal P2P much. It took me about 15 months to download one terrabyte of data so that is about 80 gig a month.
The problem is... 250 now... then 200... then 150...
The other problem is...
200mb shows now... 700mb shows three years from now (as we all go HD).
People wouldn't pirate if prices were reasonable. If anime were $22 instead of $80, I would buy it. Sometimes, it's easier to wait for prices to come down than to download (X-Files, La Femme Nikita, Get Smart).
I currently have a 1,000 hour backlog of things to watch on purchased DVD's. That's enough that some things, i will probably never ever see.
Major corporation.
Corp spends a few million a year on M$ so we all get the top 8-10 M$ products for physical production costs for use at home. Actually, i think we get it below physical production costs.
So an Article III judge social life has nothing to do with their outlook on the law?
I don't think so. I think this california resident likely has strong pro-hollywood/copyright personal views.
However, I did read here later that the defendent blew the judge off and didn't appear in court... and i know that jduges everywhere are pretty evil when that happens. So maybe that was the reason for this unrealistic judgement.
Would rule on such an extreme judgement.
Probably could have happened anywhere else too.. california industries and contributions and political connections had nothing to do with the judgement. I'm sure it was very fair and impartial.
OOo will frequently lack features in word... it's in a stern chase after all.
However, OOo is FREE and will only get better.
Most new Microsoft Word features are pretty obscure on the other hand and some of the recent changes make it harder to use.
M$ Word is a GREAT product.. that
* Costs a lot of money for most (tho I can get it legally for $20)
* Has planned obsolescence
* Can't read older word documents that OOo can.
* Crashes reading corrupted word documents which OOo *easily* reads and fixes.
---
Now...
The kicker is this...
I recently finally made the change over to OOo as of 2.4. Already, there are some things which are so much cleaner and so much more logical that I miss those features when I bring up word. Word just does some things nonsensically due to its history.
And already, there are some features in OOo which I miss in M$ Word (the cropping is SOOOOOO much easier and clearer in OOo than word-- working feels cleaner too).
---
So Ooo is like 9/9/9/10/9/10 while word is 10/10/9/9/10/10. Both are very good-- Both are better in some areas.
When you consider price, drm, and obsolescence tho OOo 10, M$ 1.
Yes, but if they are going to claim it as property, then they should pay property taxes. Currently they want it both ways.
Rental costs are a fraction of ownership costs.
So it is reasonable that you do not keep it after watching it.
You left off paying "property tax" on your "property" at its fair value (each year about 3% of gross sales income for the prior year). Failure to pay property tax results in the product going to the public domain.