So a 1st world programmer has to pay $1200 for theri development kit while it's sold to a 3rd world developers for $70 or even given a way free.
Then the 3rd world developer is allowed to directly compete for work with the 1st world developer as if the both lived in the 1st world country.
Products should be sold for the same price in both locations since labor is forced to compete for living expenses and it's more expensive to live in the higher GDP country.
Unless you just want a lot of unemployeed people in the high gdp country.
This is literally extracting wealth from wealthy countries leaving less to circulate in the economy.
âoeThe most reliable estimate of the cost of decommissioning [a nuclear power plant] is 10-15 percent of the construction cost, contrary to some highly inflated estimates... Modern serious studies of the disposal problem indicate that satisfactory isolation is technologically feasible, even for the long term.â So wrote MIT nuclear engineering professor David Rose in the November 1985 issue of The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
How misguided that view seems now, with the advantage of decades of experience. The Yankee Nuclear Power Station in Rowe, Massachusetts, took 15 years to decommissionâ"or five times longer than was needed to build it. And decommissioning the plantâ"constructed early in the 1960s for $39 millionâ"cost $608 million. The plantâ(TM)s spent fuel rods are still stored in a facility on-site, because there is no permanent disposal repository to put them in.
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Look, it's late and I'm tired but I've had this exact conversation many many times. I'm not just "spewing" out random crap.
That plant was suppose to cost 6 million to decommission. Adjusting for inflation, it would have cost 39million (the same as it cost to build it but with inflated dollars so really just a nice coincidence). That's $560 million more than estimated and paid for in utility bills along the way.
The company wants to try out the idea for the first time on the northwest coast of England, at the notorious nuclear dumping ground at Sellafield, which holds the world's largest stock of civilian plutonium. At close to 120 tons, it stores more plutonium from reactors than the U.S. and Russia combined.
While most of the world's civilian plutonium waste is still trapped inside highly radioactive spent fuel, much of that British plutonium is in the form of plutonium dioxide powder. It has been extracted from spent fuel with the intention of using it to power an earlier generation of fast reactors that were never built. This makes it much more vulnerable to theft and use in nuclear weapons than plutonium still held inside spent fuel, as most of the U.S. stockpile is.
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By 2025, Germany is to have no more than 45 percent renewable power. The U.S. should too. It has a quarter of our population but total US GDP is 16.77 trillion dollars while germany is only 3.77 trillion dollars. We can do this and almost permanently cap the price of coal and oil.
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Really we are quibbling.
I think we both agree a smart mix of alternative energy, nuclear energy, and even coal makes sense for the near future (say 2045) and that increasing the percentage of alternative energy will reduce consumption and prices of fossil fuels.
I showed that breeder reactors produce plutonium dioxide which must be secured against terrorists and backed that up with the actual experience of a breeder reactor in England. I also showed that decommissioning costs for nuclear plants are underestimated by over and order of magnitude.
The problem is that decommissioning nuclear power plants is coming in at 10 times more expensive than estimated 30 years ago. And since private companies can't afford those costs, you end up paying them in higher rates or higher taxes.
We also need at least one breeder reactor which would reduce nuclear waste to 1% the volume AND also simultaneously reduces the lifespan of the radioactive waste significantly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... " removing the transuranics from the waste eliminates much of the long-term radioactivity of spent nuclear fuel.["
Such a reactor would need very high security (perhaps to the extent of being run by the government and on a large military base because plutonium is one output. You can make nuclear weapons from that. BUT, you could also shuttle it off the planet to fuel long range space exploration as fast as we make it to reduce that risk.
And... Solar is closing in on price parity with the likes of coal â" with full-cycle, unsubsidized costs of about 13 cents per kilowatthour, versus 12 cents for advanced coal plants.
But there will be cases where we need Coal (with proper scrubbing which didn't start for many plants until 2015 and which may be backed out now) until we get very good batteries. And lots of them. If every consumer has a "power wall" of some kind with 8 hours of electrical storage, and when power companies have lots of molten salt (or whatever) to store power for night time and cloudy days, then we'll need no coal. But until then, we'll need some coal.
But less.
And the price for coal (and oil) is set by the most expensive coal to mine (or oil to pump). Say you can mine 90% of coal for 36 dollars a ton and the last 10% for 46 dollars a ton. Then the price of coal will be $46 dollars a ton. So if you can just eliminate 10% of demand for coal, then the price of coal (and your electric cost ber kwh) will drop about 22%.
I don't see how you can conclude that it is "beyond stupid" to conclude that the tesla driver died watching harry potter instead of paying attention to the road.
But whatever. Best for me to walk away slowly and avoid further eye contact.
Yea, I was skeptical when it was put that way too.
After the accident the truck driver went over to the car and the movie was still playing. So he (the truck driver) didn't know at the instant of the accident- he (the truck driver) found out after the accident.
--- To which you said: Your point being? Do you really suggest it is even possible that the guy, as his last act in this world, started playing Harry Potter _after_ the accident?
That is beyond stupid.
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Now... from my original statement, how the heck do you get that I said the tesla driver started the movie playing after the he was killed instantly accident. I didn't even come close to your statement so I have no idea how you interpreted that way unless you misread it.
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My point being that the TRUCK driver said, "the tesla driver was watching harry potter" and our first thought is, "How can the truck driver know that!?! That's impossible!" and then we hear "after the accident the TRUCK driver went over to the tesla and the movie was still playing on a dvd player" and we understand that the most likely reason is that the TESLA driver was watching the movie or else the TESLA driver would have braked.
There are other (rare) possibilities... The DVD player flew around the car and somehow hit it's own "play" button at random. The TESLA driver's hand flopped around and hit the "play" button randomly starting the movie. meanwhile prior to the accident... * the tesla driver fell asleep * the tesla driver had dropped something and was distracted picking it up. * the tesla driver had died or became unconscious (but not asleep).
But - and I am only saying this because I care - there are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market today that are just as tasty as the real thing.
I get all your comments that it violated copyright. And I agree that he was selling model kits and taking a salary. It was a bad scene.
The problem is that Axenar was one of the best star trek treatments I've seen since Wrath of Khan. It felt RIGHT. It sent shivers up and down my spine.
In a different world, CBS and Paramount would have have had Peters and the original crew make it as a real film as their employees in a regular setting.
And that would have also probably ruined it. Too big a budget ruins so many films.
And the premise may not have stood up to a full 90 to 110 minute film.
I could even see a partnership between kickstarters willing to invest money so it got made and recieve blue/ray copies on release into theatres and cbs/paramount who wouldn't have to spend nearly as much and just distribute it for profit.
They could have had stretch goals funded by higher box office gross receipts. (like a copy of the ship... a uniform... props. etc.)
As a star fleet battles player, it was really nice to see the battles were implemented with star fleet battles in mind (and perhaps actually played out with SFB in mind).
Actually they don't. Severe shoulder, arm, and back pain is a big deal for truckers. I'm a massage therapist. I've worked on guys who were in "level 10" pain. Real agony.
I've seen issues with the muscles: Teres major, Teres Minor, Latissimus Dorsi, Deltoids, Trapezius, Scalenes, Extensors and Flexors of the forearm, Triceps. (not the bicep very often tho), corocobrachialis. Oh and infra and super spinatus and levitor scapula.
The best position would be in a comfortable char with your arms resting but not crossed watching the road attentively with little "attention" quizzes where you had to tap a button when a light came on. And with the machine observing you were in a capable state-- not falling asleep or looking away from the front for over 10 seconds at a time.
I don't think there was any fire. He was beheaded I think. Pictures of the Tesla make it clear it went under the trailer and the top of the car was ripped off clean at the body of the car.
The car then continued driving and swerved right? to the side of the road and stopped against a tree (not sure if it was braking or if it hit the tree or both).
Rather than "hands on wheel", it should be "eyes looking towards road ahead". My tablet can tell if I'm looking at it. The car should be able to see the driver is in the seat, looking forward, with their eyes open.
Reasonable gaps of a couple seconds should be allowed since humans are supposed to look around but that's just a programming detail.
So say the car realizes the driver hasn't been looking forward for a certain number of seconds, it warns the driver, starts slowing down and attempts to hand control over to the driver.
Really dark sunglasses would be an issue. And sunlight was an issue in the florida crash.
Still, holding your arms up for hours is a recipe for pain.
Yea, I was skeptical when it was put that way too.
After the accident the truck driver went over to the car and the movie was still playing. So he didn't know at the instant of the accident- he found out after the accident.
By that standard, we'd need to kill dozens of people based on Snowden's leaks and they were not even fired.
And given Mr. Trumps extreme antagonism for Russia in 2014 but extreme love for Russia by 2015, I suspect he'd end up in front of a firing squad as well.
I think they've got something unforgivable on him. Like video of the violent rape of a teen girl. Something that even a pardon won't really fix.
One thing I found is if I randomly stumble on Silverado, I'll pull it out and watch it. But I have to find it randomly on TV before I want to watch it.
There is only value to ownership when you are going to reuse the item.
Otherwise, you are just prepping yourself to be on the next season of "Hoarders".
I stopped buying DVD's when I found I was rewatching less than 1% of what I bought.
As I get older, I rewatch less.
There is a glut of entertainment right now. I can spend 20 hours a week on Youtube (Lindybeige, Primitive Technology, official Music Videos, Stunning things like 10,000 japanese singing "Ode to Joy" in german, the Young Turks) and not even scratch the surface.
Someday long before Netflix was even started (Blockbuster was still big), I realized I was spending $60 a week on DVDs which i would watch once and then go onto the shelves.
For a while, I would wait until they dropped to 5 bucks and buy them then.
I stopped buying that day and have bought 3 DVD's since (one of which- Inception- I thought I would watch a lot but actually I watched it twice).
Netflix didn't stop me from buying DVD's.
I really hate the pricing model for DVD's. As I get older, I rewatch and reread less and less content.
I got something at the gym which resisted every OTC anti-fungal.
The doctor finally prescribed me something for it that killed it.
Fungi are creepy because they live on you as a food supply like you are walking dirt.
If you get enough and have a fungal bloom tho, they can kill you quickly.
Likewise, medicating a bad infestation too aggressively results in a toxin overload and can kill you.
I quit the gym when I got a second fungal infection about six months later that was also resistant (I was able to use the prescribed stuff to kill it).
Most of the money leaves the economy to pay for the automation which is not provided locally- and many of the robots are manufactured overseas in part or in whole anyway until robots start building robots due to labor costs.
So a small amount goes to construction locally. The job "savings" for automated is typically on the order of 100:1, so the 700 jobs saved might turn into 7 locally plus another couple dozen as overseas factories are also closed and their manufacturing is brought home.
Meanwhile trucks still carry the same amount of product over the roads. The factory uses the same amount of water, eletricity, etc. Police still have to patrol around the factory and provide police protection. The fire department still has to provide fire protection for the factory. But less money goes into the local economy to pay for these services because (currently) automated factories don't pay income taxes. So the remaining humans with income must subsidize the company by paying higher taxes to maintain the roads. By removing human workers, under our current set of tax laws, the company's billionaire owners (who probably live in another state or country) will have externalized almost all their costs onto the populace while offering almost no local employment (after construction ceases).
On the plus side, I also oppose helping NFL billionaires wanting new stadiums so we share that.
The wave of automation coming is going to more than decimate jobs. It's likely to destroy 90% of trucking jobs over the next 15 years. After 20-40 years of job destruction, we'll reach a new steady state. But the nearest comparable situations are the luddite situation and the horse situation. Most luddites were refused training and as a result died of starvation and exposure after the army killed a bunch of them during their revolt. And the horse population dropped by 95% in under 30 years after automation destroyed their job categories. Many of them were simply put to death tho the bulk was from restricted breeding since there was no profit in breeding as many horses.
And he carrier jobs were saved at a cost of 7,000 dollars a piece (7 million bucks) of OTHER citizen's tax money which will go into the pocket of the company which said it will use that money to automate the saved jobs out of existence before Mr. Trump leaves office.
It's already been reported that shops see increased sales and profits greater than their increased labor costs when the minimum wage is increased.
It's a complicated problem, but in countries without a minimum wage you see violent civil unrest break out. You really don't want half the population to be hopeless.
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Ah. Now I see your point.
A majority of people posting back then (including me) just assumed that the truck driver was lying.
So a 1st world programmer has to pay $1200 for theri development kit while it's sold to a 3rd world developers for $70 or even given a way free.
Then the 3rd world developer is allowed to directly compete for work with the 1st world developer as if the both lived in the 1st world country.
Products should be sold for the same price in both locations since labor is forced to compete for living expenses and it's more expensive to live in the higher GDP country.
Unless you just want a lot of unemployeed people in the high gdp country.
This is literally extracting wealth from wealthy countries leaving less to circulate in the economy.
http://thebulletin.org/rising-...
âoeThe most reliable estimate of the cost of decommissioning [a nuclear power plant] is 10-15 percent of the construction cost, contrary to some highly inflated estimates ... Modern serious studies of the disposal problem indicate that satisfactory isolation is technologically feasible, even for the long term.â So wrote MIT nuclear engineering professor David Rose in the November 1985 issue of The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
How misguided that view seems now, with the advantage of decades of experience. The Yankee Nuclear Power Station in Rowe, Massachusetts, took 15 years to decommissionâ"or five times longer than was needed to build it. And decommissioning the plantâ"constructed early in the 1960s for $39 millionâ"cost $608 million. The plantâ(TM)s spent fuel rods are still stored in a facility on-site, because there is no permanent disposal repository to put them in.
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Look, it's late and I'm tired but I've had this exact conversation many many times. I'm not just "spewing" out random crap.
That plant was suppose to cost 6 million to decommission. Adjusting for inflation, it would have cost 39million (the same as it cost to build it but with inflated dollars so really just a nice coincidence). That's $560 million more than estimated and paid for in utility bills along the way.
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https://www.theguardian.com/en...
The company wants to try out the idea for the first time on the northwest coast of England, at the notorious nuclear dumping ground at Sellafield, which holds the world's largest stock of civilian plutonium. At close to 120 tons, it stores more plutonium from reactors than the U.S. and Russia combined.
While most of the world's civilian plutonium waste is still trapped inside highly radioactive spent fuel, much of that British plutonium is in the form of plutonium dioxide powder. It has been extracted from spent fuel with the intention of using it to power an earlier generation of fast reactors that were never built. This makes it much more vulnerable to theft and use in nuclear weapons than plutonium still held inside spent fuel, as most of the U.S. stockpile is.
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By 2025, Germany is to have no more than 45 percent renewable power. The U.S. should too.
It has a quarter of our population but total US GDP is 16.77 trillion dollars while germany is only 3.77 trillion dollars.
We can do this and almost permanently cap the price of coal and oil.
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Really we are quibbling.
I think we both agree a smart mix of alternative energy, nuclear energy, and even coal makes sense for the near future (say 2045) and that increasing the percentage of alternative energy will reduce consumption and prices of fossil fuels.
I showed that breeder reactors produce plutonium dioxide which must be secured against terrorists and backed that up with the actual experience of a breeder reactor in England.
I also showed that decommissioning costs for nuclear plants are underestimated by over and order of magnitude.
The problem is that decommissioning nuclear power plants is coming in at 10 times more expensive than estimated 30 years ago. And since private companies can't afford those costs, you end up paying them in higher rates or higher taxes.
We also need at least one breeder reactor which would reduce nuclear waste to 1% the volume AND also simultaneously reduces the lifespan of the radioactive waste significantly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
" removing the transuranics from the waste eliminates much of the long-term radioactivity of spent nuclear fuel.["
Such a reactor would need very high security (perhaps to the extent of being run by the government and on a large military base because plutonium is one output. You can make nuclear weapons from that. BUT, you could also shuttle it off the planet to fuel long range space exploration as fast as we make it to reduce that risk.
On your other point...
Solar is now cheaper than wind.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news...
And...
Solar is closing in on price parity with the likes of coal â" with full-cycle, unsubsidized costs of about 13 cents per kilowatthour, versus 12 cents for advanced coal plants.
But there will be cases where we need Coal (with proper scrubbing which didn't start for many plants until 2015 and which may be backed out now) until we get very good batteries. And lots of them. If every consumer has a "power wall" of some kind with 8 hours of electrical storage, and when power companies have lots of molten salt (or whatever) to store power for night time and cloudy days, then we'll need no coal. But until then, we'll need some coal.
But less.
And the price for coal (and oil) is set by the most expensive coal to mine (or oil to pump).
Say you can mine 90% of coal for 36 dollars a ton and the last 10% for 46 dollars a ton. Then the price of coal will be $46 dollars a ton. So if you can just eliminate 10% of demand for coal, then the price of coal (and your electric cost ber kwh) will drop about 22%.
I don't see how you can conclude that it is "beyond stupid" to conclude that the tesla driver died watching harry potter instead of paying attention to the road.
But whatever. Best for me to walk away slowly and avoid further eye contact.
He can save 175 of those jobs by paying Microsoft $7000 per job!
This is what you are replying to...
Yea, I was skeptical when it was put that way too.
After the accident the truck driver went over to the car and the movie was still playing. So he (the truck driver) didn't know at the instant of the accident- he (the truck driver) found out after the accident.
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To which you said:
Your point being? Do you really suggest it is even possible that the guy, as his last act in this world, started playing Harry Potter _after_ the accident?
That is beyond stupid.
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Now... from my original statement, how the heck do you get that I said the tesla driver started the movie playing after the he was killed instantly accident. I didn't even come close to your statement so I have no idea how you interpreted that way unless you misread it.
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My point being that the TRUCK driver said, "the tesla driver was watching harry potter" and our first thought is, "How can the truck driver know that!?! That's impossible!" and then we hear "after the accident the TRUCK driver went over to the tesla and the movie was still playing on a dvd player" and we understand that the most likely reason is that the TESLA driver was watching the movie or else the TESLA driver would have braked.
There are other (rare) possibilities... ...
The DVD player flew around the car and somehow hit it's own "play" button at random.
The TESLA driver's hand flopped around and hit the "play" button randomly starting the movie. meanwhile prior to the accident
* the tesla driver fell asleep
* the tesla driver had dropped something and was distracted picking it up.
* the tesla driver had died or became unconscious (but not asleep).
But - and I am only saying this because I care - there are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market today that are just as tasty as the real thing.
I get all your comments that it violated copyright. And I agree that he was selling model kits and taking a salary.
It was a bad scene.
The problem is that Axenar was one of the best star trek treatments I've seen since Wrath of Khan.
It felt RIGHT.
It sent shivers up and down my spine.
In a different world, CBS and Paramount would have have had Peters and the original crew make it as a real film as their employees in a regular setting.
And that would have also probably ruined it. Too big a budget ruins so many films.
And the premise may not have stood up to a full 90 to 110 minute film.
I could even see a partnership between kickstarters willing to invest money so it got made and recieve blue/ray copies on release into theatres and cbs/paramount who wouldn't have to spend nearly as much and just distribute it for profit.
They could have had stretch goals funded by higher box office gross receipts. (like a copy of the ship... a uniform... props. etc.)
As a star fleet battles player, it was really nice to see the battles were implemented with star fleet battles in mind (and perhaps actually played out with SFB in mind).
You may want to read that again.
I think you misread something.
Absolutely. And unless he was blinded by the sun, he should have seen the truck turning across his path.
here are details
https://electrek.co/2016/07/01...
I'm not sure the truck should have turned across the path of oncoming traffic with no light.
I was told by a friend tonight that the truck driver was ticketed for the turn.
Actually they don't. Severe shoulder, arm, and back pain is a big deal for truckers. I'm a massage therapist. I've worked on guys who were in "level 10" pain. Real agony.
I've seen issues with the muscles: Teres major, Teres Minor, Latissimus Dorsi, Deltoids, Trapezius, Scalenes, Extensors and Flexors of the forearm, Triceps. (not the bicep very often tho), corocobrachialis. Oh and infra and super spinatus and levitor scapula.
http://dotphysicalutah.com/faq...
Plus the muscles: gluteus max and min (but not med), multifidus, erector spinae/spinalis, quadratus lumborum and psoas major.
http://www.crengland.com/truck...
http://realtruckdriver.com/3-c...
The best position would be in a comfortable char with your arms resting but not crossed watching the road attentively with little "attention" quizzes where you had to tap a button when a light came on. And with the machine observing you were in a capable state-- not falling asleep or looking away from the front for over 10 seconds at a time.
I don't think there was any fire. He was beheaded I think. Pictures of the Tesla make it clear it went under the trailer and the top of the car was ripped off clean at the body of the car.
The car then continued driving and swerved right? to the side of the road and stopped against a tree (not sure if it was braking or if it hit the tree or both).
Rather than "hands on wheel", it should be "eyes looking towards road ahead". My tablet can tell if I'm looking at it. The car should be able to see the driver is in the seat, looking forward, with their eyes open.
Reasonable gaps of a couple seconds should be allowed since humans are supposed to look around but that's just a programming detail.
So say the car realizes the driver hasn't been looking forward for a certain number of seconds, it warns the driver, starts slowing down and attempts to hand control over to the driver.
Really dark sunglasses would be an issue. And sunlight was an issue in the florida crash.
Still, holding your arms up for hours is a recipe for pain.
Yea, I was skeptical when it was put that way too.
After the accident the truck driver went over to the car and the movie was still playing. So he didn't know at the instant of the accident- he found out after the accident.
By that standard, we'd need to kill dozens of people based on Snowden's leaks and they were not even fired.
And given Mr. Trumps extreme antagonism for Russia in 2014 but extreme love for Russia by 2015, I suspect he'd end up in front of a firing squad as well.
I think they've got something unforgivable on him. Like video of the violent rape of a teen girl. Something that even a pardon won't really fix.
We need whistleblowers to protect us.
One thing I found is if I randomly stumble on Silverado, I'll pull it out and watch it. But I have to find it randomly on TV before I want to watch it.
There is only value to ownership when you are going to reuse the item.
Otherwise, you are just prepping yourself to be on the next season of "Hoarders".
I stopped buying DVD's when I found I was rewatching less than 1% of what I bought.
As I get older, I rewatch less.
There is a glut of entertainment right now. I can spend 20 hours a week on Youtube (Lindybeige, Primitive Technology, official Music Videos, Stunning things like 10,000 japanese singing "Ode to Joy" in german, the Young Turks) and not even scratch the surface.
Someday long before Netflix was even started (Blockbuster was still big), I realized I was spending $60 a week on DVDs which i would watch once and then go onto the shelves.
For a while, I would wait until they dropped to 5 bucks and buy them then.
I stopped buying that day and have bought 3 DVD's since (one of which- Inception- I thought I would watch a lot but actually I watched it twice).
Netflix didn't stop me from buying DVD's.
I really hate the pricing model for DVD's. As I get older, I rewatch and reread less and less content.
But Clinton! Drink!
I got something at the gym which resisted every OTC anti-fungal.
The doctor finally prescribed me something for it that killed it.
Fungi are creepy because they live on you as a food supply like you are walking dirt.
If you get enough and have a fungal bloom tho, they can kill you quickly.
Likewise, medicating a bad infestation too aggressively results in a toxin overload and can kill you.
I quit the gym when I got a second fungal infection about six months later that was also resistant (I was able to use the prescribed stuff to kill it).
Similar apps are alleged to have allowed russians to target artillery in Ukraine.
Most of the money leaves the economy to pay for the automation which is not provided locally- and many of the robots are manufactured overseas in part or in whole anyway until robots start building robots due to labor costs.
So a small amount goes to construction locally. The job "savings" for automated is typically on the order of 100:1, so the 700 jobs saved might turn into 7 locally plus another couple dozen as overseas factories are also closed and their manufacturing is brought home.
Meanwhile trucks still carry the same amount of product over the roads. The factory uses the same amount of water, eletricity, etc. Police still have to patrol around the factory and provide police protection. The fire department still has to provide fire protection for the factory. But less money goes into the local economy to pay for these services because (currently) automated factories don't pay income taxes. So the remaining humans with income must subsidize the company by paying higher taxes to maintain the roads. By removing human workers, under our current set of tax laws, the company's billionaire owners (who probably live in another state or country) will have externalized almost all their costs onto the populace while offering almost no local employment (after construction ceases).
On the plus side, I also oppose helping NFL billionaires wanting new stadiums so we share that.
The wave of automation coming is going to more than decimate jobs. It's likely to destroy 90% of trucking jobs over the next 15 years. After 20-40 years of job destruction, we'll reach a new steady state. But the nearest comparable situations are the luddite situation and the horse situation. Most luddites were refused training and as a result died of starvation and exposure after the army killed a bunch of them during their revolt. And the horse population dropped by 95% in under 30 years after automation destroyed their job categories. Many of them were simply put to death tho the bulk was from restricted breeding since there was no profit in breeding as many horses.
And he carrier jobs were saved at a cost of 7,000 dollars a piece (7 million bucks) of OTHER citizen's tax money which will go into the pocket of the company which said it will use that money to automate the saved jobs out of existence before Mr. Trump leaves office.
It's already been reported that shops see increased sales and profits greater than their increased labor costs when the minimum wage is increased.
It's a complicated problem, but in countries without a minimum wage you see violent civil unrest break out. You really don't want half the population to be hopeless.