In the CIA directorate of operations they refer to people like plame as a Case Officers not an agent. Agents, in the parlance of foreign intelligence gathering, are networks of informants who have been exploited to do the dirty work for case officers. The nonmenclature of domestic gathering is a bit different. Just pointing it out, cause a lot of you guys chuck hissy fits over hacker/cracker all the time and refering to a case officer as an agent is pretty demeaning to their trade cause agents are usually traitors.
...wouldn't the money be for these operations have been better spend closing down phishing sites?
I'm just thinking it would be better going after the real criminals.
Corporation owned information on Black market = government and justice backing and serious response.
Citizen owned information on black market = may get justice depending if you are an important person (read: rich)
Scoble should stop eating his scoble snacks and hanging out with those Microjuana smoking hippies Freddie, Daphne, Velma, and Bill "Shaggy" Gates.
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That's what happens when you have an economic system that magnifies mans already flawed greedy nature. Case in point was the guy who said "I mean, my first thought when I heard (about the London bombings) -- just on a personal basis, when I heard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, which were really in the tank, I thought, "Hmmm, time to buy."
It's for "protecting the children" because since mankind began we've built social stories to protect inexperienced people from the ill side effects of doing something that they may regret or by accident/misfortune have something fall awry eg. sexual diseases, or unwanted pregnancy.
Spam is annoying as hell though and I agree that anyone should opt-out.
Holy crap man, can you actually read? You've completely misconstrued what I said.
Why is SMS a fad?
I said adding morse as a learnable skill to an existing technology was a fad. Morse as a mainstream communications technology is dead. Just because some champion morse coder can beat some kid on SMS doesn't make it a faster, better technology. For the common man who doesn't have the training time it's not a viable option to learn morse especially up to that speed. It would take years of training to reach that speed. It's a fad also because technology geek types are obsessed with little niche fascinations that come and go.
Who says you need to know Morse Code, if you don't want to?
No, I said the person sending the morse would have to learn it. Ever learnt morse? It's a time consuming process. Like I stated it's a fad for a niche customer base who have the time and resources to sit down and learn morse up to an apppropriate speed that can compare with their existing speed of sending SMS via typing. We all can't be Morse gods.
Let's say an important businessman, who happens to enjoy HAM as a hobby, and knows Morse Code well, has a real-world use for SMS. Since he is fluent in Morse Code, he chooses to enter his message that way. What is wrong with that?
Did I say there was anything wrong with it? Please inform me when your imaginary important businessman start using morse. Your statement just proves what I'm saying: Only a limited number of people are going to do this.
Thank god for sarcasm pointing out the truth. What people don't realize is that morse reappearing now is a short lived fad. The article sums the problem with morse perfectly:
"Timing is important, so this method of sending messages takes more practice. "
The problem is time and a niche form of communication. Who has time to learn morse code yet alone uses SMS as a primary form of communication that needs the utmost speed? A bunch of nerds who do nothing but sit on the internet all day do. For the average joe, or even more importantly businessman, time is something that is better spent on real world communications training and technology that doesn't demand arcane knowledge. I was trained as in intercept operator in the military where I took and transmitted morse by type and hand up to a speed of 25 words-per-minute and thats nothing compared to some of the morse operators back in the cold war. The initial training time and continuing training is not something that a real world person is going to use. Of course there are different situations where morse could be of practical use eg. disabled.
IMO this is merely a narrow fascination rather than a practical means of modern communication.
Actually i would say you are seeing the death of theaters. There is a geographic and economic change of focus from broadcasting movies for a load of people in public theaters to a niche market. Kind of like the long tail applied to movies.
I like how pirate bay relishes in its criminality. So what happens when pirate bay gets busted by the RIAA-imperial navy? Do they bury their trackers in secret locations, kill all the leechers and hope in 50 years time someone will make an 80's themed movie about cyber pirates, booty-porn traps and a russian internet gang called the fratellis?
I see you have encountered what us elite/.'ers call sarcasm. I hope you and your one eyeball have much fun implementing your end-time protocol while us genius/.'ers live it up in our penthouses with our supermodels, 18-inch guns (and wangs) and use our keyboards like Hendrix used his guitar.
Your friends in the war on terror over here in Australia plainly don't care about security either. In the last few weeks we've found dodgy
baggage handlers in the airports, a
chinese diplomat who is trying to defect and says that Australia is infested with chinese spies and threats against foreign countries
embassies within our own soil.
Governments are hopeless at dealing with security. They are slow, lack innovative thinking and care more for their own careers than for their constituents. What matters most is whether or not you can protect yourself, your assets and your family when (if) the time comes. Then you can rid your mind of all the political and media led one-upmanship that comes along with security and the war on terrorism and get more important things done in life.
Actually no, that's not its only function. The CIA has many functions with HUMINT actually being one of the smallest, though arguably the most important. It is split up into different departments with the Directorate of Intelligence being the largest. The DI specializes in Analysis and reporting. The Directorate of Operations, which specializes in human intelligence is what you are referring too. The CIA also have a paramilitary wing which was extensively used in Afghanistan. The paramil wing has a role similar to the special forces. It also has a Research and Development wing, which specializes in intelligence technology.
Also an offensive tasking seems like it would more likely be a DoD thing, Airforce maybe though who knows.
The proper parlance is the intelligence world is covert action. And with many departments these days trying to keep up with
netwarriors (I don't mean hackers, check the link) they have to assume organisational and offensive formlessness and take up roles which in the past they wouldn't have taken up. This includes the use of covert action by agencies that were considered pre-9/11 as collection agencies.
Just to clarify for some/.'ers who may have a narrow view of intelligence. The intelligence world is split up into collection (HUMINT, SIGINT, IMINT, OSINT etc.), analysis, covert action and counter-intelligence. Pre-9/11 most agencies were traditional set in stone in these areas, however due to 4th Generational warriors and netwarriors the traditional agencies have had to change in the areas of organisation, doctrine and culture. So don't think that traditional agencies still keep their same roles. Their roles are blurred and operate under a complete different set of rules from the soviet era.
So the mods are mothra fanboys eh?
How about something non-partisan like Giant Squid versus Bill "Aquaman" Gates: Who gets the key to Davy Jones Locker.
I like the smooth transition from Industrial espionage to M$ bashing. Next up on/.. Mothra versus 50foot Bill Gates: Who'd win in a Tokyo downtown duel?
"CNet is running a story about how spammers and phishers can learn about our surfing habits to better target their attacks"
I believe you miswrote spammers. The word you are looking for is shark and/or dolphin. People get spammers, sharks and dolphins mixed up all the time. You can tell them apart from the dorsal fin.
"A wise man associating with the vicious becomes an idiot;
a dog travelling with good men becomes a rational being" Arabic Proverb.
Emotions on blogs! who woulda thunk it?! Emotions are also at play on/.. In the book Emotional contagion
the authors talk about how emotions are spread as contagions through mimicry. Similar to memes. Basically states that people mimic each other and that emotions cross over in that mimicry.
He talks about how some people are more potent at infecting others with their emotions than are their peers. THese powerful communicators possess three traits:
1. They feel strong emotions.
2. The express those strong emotions.
3. When others are experiencing emotions incompatible with their own, they must be relatively insensitive to and unresponsive to the feelings of others.
On the other hand, people who are susceptible to emotional contagion, or carriers, are likely to catch emotions if they:
1. rivet their attention on the others.
2. construe themselves in terms of their interrelatedness to the others;
3. are able to read others emotions.
4. tend to mimic emotions.
5. are aware of their emotional responses.
6. are emotionally reactive.
People are also most likely to catch others' emotions in two kinds of relationships - those involving love or power. Interestingly enough, introverts are more likely to be strong carriers of emotional contagion.
So next time an article comes up, remember, it only takes a handful of guys to spread FUD or excitement about the topic. THen the rest of the nerdy introverts will jump in on the emotional bandwagon. I have other thoughts on this related to/. sub-culture but I'll leave it at that lest I get modded down for pointing out the emperor has no clothes.
Then how the hell do these people get through the security screening process?
That's a damn good question. These types of people are a minority so the signal to noise ratio could get them in. Could be a number of reasons though. The security vetters could look past their idiosyncrasies. They could be good people underneath, just a little mischievous.
One of the big things with the vetting process is whether or not you are honest up front in your dealings even if you have problems. Sometimes they'll let little things past if you are honest about it. I think this comes from the whole recruitable weaknesses idea. If you have recruitable weaknesses (a penchant for sex, money problems, fervent ideology) and you tell the vetters about it they may be able to apply damage control, however if you didn't tell them it could be used against you by foreign intelligence collectors. Then again, I don't know that much about the vetting internal process. I'm sure there are good reasons as to why these people get past.
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In the CIA directorate of operations they refer to people like plame as a Case Officers not an agent. Agents, in the parlance of foreign intelligence gathering, are networks of informants who have been exploited to do the dirty work for case officers. The nonmenclature of domestic gathering is a bit different. Just pointing it out, cause a lot of you guys chuck hissy fits over hacker/cracker all the time and refering to a case officer as an agent is pretty demeaning to their trade cause agents are usually traitors.
Corporation owned information on Black market = government and justice backing and serious response.
Citizen owned information on black market = may get justice depending if you are an important person (read: rich)
Scoble should stop eating his scoble snacks and hanging out with those Microjuana smoking hippies Freddie, Daphne, Velma, and Bill "Shaggy" Gates.
That's what happens when you have an economic system that magnifies mans already flawed greedy nature. Case in point was the guy who said "I mean, my first thought when I heard (about the London bombings) -- just on a personal basis, when I heard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, which were really in the tank, I thought, "Hmmm, time to buy."
Yeah, and wait till some idiot corrupt or incompetent company accidently 'loses' that list to some high paying pedo's.
It's for "protecting the children" because since mankind began we've built social stories to protect inexperienced people from the ill side effects of doing something that they may regret or by accident/misfortune have something fall awry eg. sexual diseases, or unwanted pregnancy.
Spam is annoying as hell though and I agree that anyone should opt-out.
Why is SMS a fad?
I said adding morse as a learnable skill to an existing technology was a fad. Morse as a mainstream communications technology is dead. Just because some champion morse coder can beat some kid on SMS doesn't make it a faster, better technology. For the common man who doesn't have the training time it's not a viable option to learn morse especially up to that speed. It would take years of training to reach that speed. It's a fad also because technology geek types are obsessed with little niche fascinations that come and go.
Who says you need to know Morse Code, if you don't want to?
No, I said the person sending the morse would have to learn it. Ever learnt morse? It's a time consuming process. Like I stated it's a fad for a niche customer base who have the time and resources to sit down and learn morse up to an apppropriate speed that can compare with their existing speed of sending SMS via typing. We all can't be Morse gods.
Let's say an important businessman, who happens to enjoy HAM as a hobby, and knows Morse Code well, has a real-world use for SMS. Since he is fluent in Morse Code, he chooses to enter his message that way. What is wrong with that?
Did I say there was anything wrong with it? Please inform me when your imaginary important businessman start using morse. Your statement just proves what I'm saying: Only a limited number of people are going to do this.
The problem is time and a niche form of communication. Who has time to learn morse code yet alone uses SMS as a primary form of communication that needs the utmost speed? A bunch of nerds who do nothing but sit on the internet all day do. For the average joe, or even more importantly businessman, time is something that is better spent on real world communications training and technology that doesn't demand arcane knowledge. I was trained as in intercept operator in the military where I took and transmitted morse by type and hand up to a speed of 25 words-per-minute and thats nothing compared to some of the morse operators back in the cold war. The initial training time and continuing training is not something that a real world person is going to use. Of course there are different situations where morse could be of practical use eg. disabled.
IMO this is merely a narrow fascination rather than a practical means of modern communication.
Sounds like someone has never had sex. The irony is the commentators name is nerdbuster. Someone got busted! /kidding
Actually i would say you are seeing the death of theaters. There is a geographic and economic change of focus from broadcasting movies for a load of people in public theaters to a niche market. Kind of like the long tail applied to movies.
I like how pirate bay relishes in its criminality. So what happens when pirate bay gets busted by the RIAA-imperial navy? Do they bury their trackers in secret locations, kill all the leechers and hope in 50 years time someone will make an 80's themed movie about cyber pirates, booty-porn traps and a russian internet gang called the fratellis?
Seasonal greeting to you generic /.'er.
/.'ers call sarcasm. I hope you and your one eyeball have much fun implementing your end-time protocol while us genius /.'ers live it up in our penthouses with our supermodels, 18-inch guns (and wangs) and use our keyboards like Hendrix used his guitar.
I see you have encountered what us elite
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An interesting link.
Governments are hopeless at dealing with security. They are slow, lack innovative thinking and care more for their own careers than for their constituents. What matters most is whether or not you can protect yourself, your assets and your family when (if) the time comes. Then you can rid your mind of all the political and media led one-upmanship that comes along with security and the war on terrorism and get more important things done in life.
THe computers that he hacked were probably low-level classifications. The high classifications would never allow access to outside networks.
Actually no, that's not its only function. The CIA has many functions with HUMINT actually being one of the smallest, though arguably the most important. It is split up into different departments with the Directorate of Intelligence being the largest. The DI specializes in Analysis and reporting. The Directorate of Operations, which specializes in human intelligence is what you are referring too. The CIA also have a paramilitary wing which was extensively used in Afghanistan. The paramil wing has a role similar to the special forces. It also has a Research and Development wing, which specializes in intelligence technology.
Also an offensive tasking seems like it would more likely be a DoD thing, Airforce maybe though who knows.
The proper parlance is the intelligence world is covert action. And with many departments these days trying to keep up with netwarriors (I don't mean hackers, check the link) they have to assume organisational and offensive formlessness and take up roles which in the past they wouldn't have taken up. This includes the use of covert action by agencies that were considered pre-9/11 as collection agencies.
Just to clarify for some /.'ers who may have a narrow view of intelligence. The intelligence world is split up into collection (HUMINT, SIGINT, IMINT, OSINT etc.), analysis, covert action and counter-intelligence. Pre-9/11 most agencies were traditional set in stone in these areas, however due to 4th Generational warriors and netwarriors the traditional agencies have had to change in the areas of organisation, doctrine and culture. So don't think that traditional agencies still keep their same roles. Their roles are blurred and operate under a complete different set of rules from the soviet era.
Nerd 1: Well, you've come to the right place then. If there's one thing we know, it is science.
Nerd 2: And math.
Nerd 3: And the words to every Monty Python routine.
Nerds: [in unison] We are the Knights Who Say...Ni! Ni! [laughter]
Yup sure sounds sounds like the appropriate people to bash. Who says there is no bias here?
So the mods are mothra fanboys eh? How about something non-partisan like Giant Squid versus Bill "Aquaman" Gates: Who gets the key to Davy Jones Locker.
I like the smooth transition from Industrial espionage to M$ bashing. Next up on /.. Mothra versus 50foot Bill Gates: Who'd win in a Tokyo downtown duel?
I believe you miswrote spammers. The word you are looking for is shark and/or dolphin. People get spammers, sharks and dolphins mixed up all the time. You can tell them apart from the dorsal fin.
An opposing piece by tech attorney Jim Burger.
a dog travelling with good men becomes a rational being" Arabic Proverb.
Emotions on blogs! who woulda thunk it?! Emotions are also at play on /.. In the book Emotional contagion
the authors talk about how emotions are spread as contagions through mimicry. Similar to memes. Basically states that people mimic each other and that emotions cross over in that mimicry.
He talks about how some people are more potent at infecting others with their emotions than are their peers. THese powerful communicators possess three traits:
1. They feel strong emotions.
2. The express those strong emotions.
3. When others are experiencing emotions incompatible with their own, they must be relatively insensitive to and unresponsive to the feelings of others.
On the other hand, people who are susceptible to emotional contagion, or carriers, are likely to catch emotions if they:
1. rivet their attention on the others.
2. construe themselves in terms of their interrelatedness to the others;
3. are able to read others emotions.
4. tend to mimic emotions.
5. are aware of their emotional responses.
6. are emotionally reactive.
People are also most likely to catch others' emotions in two kinds of relationships - those involving love or power. Interestingly enough, introverts are more likely to be strong carriers of emotional contagion.
So next time an article comes up, remember, it only takes a handful of guys to spread FUD or excitement about the topic. THen the rest of the nerdy introverts will jump in on the emotional bandwagon. I have other thoughts on this related to /. sub-culture but I'll leave it at that lest I get modded down for pointing out the emperor has no clothes.
That's a damn good question. These types of people are a minority so the signal to noise ratio could get them in. Could be a number of reasons though. The security vetters could look past their idiosyncrasies. They could be good people underneath, just a little mischievous.
One of the big things with the vetting process is whether or not you are honest up front in your dealings even if you have problems. Sometimes they'll let little things past if you are honest about it. I think this comes from the whole recruitable weaknesses idea. If you have recruitable weaknesses (a penchant for sex, money problems, fervent ideology) and you tell the vetters about it they may be able to apply damage control, however if you didn't tell them it could be used against you by foreign intelligence collectors. Then again, I don't know that much about the vetting internal process. I'm sure there are good reasons as to why these people get past.