That's all they're teaching the kids in college these days. Seriously. At the school I go to (i'm not a CS major) you have to take C/C++ as an elective. The core CS curriculum is all Java. I don't think they even teach assembly there. Good schools are probably different of course, but who can afford good school anymore?
I met someone the other day who had an an associates in Computer Science from a community college and had never used anything but an AS/400 and a Mac. (Not even Windows! Seriously!) I think people saw the dollar signs from 4-8 years ago and went to school for something they really are only marginally interested in just because they thought they could make a few more bucks. It's a damn shame too, because these shitty little tech schools (or community colleges hawking their tech "degrees") are doing a disservice to these people by making them that 1) they'll get a good education, 2) they'll have a job waiting for them when they graduate, and 3) they'll be respected by their peers in the IT biz as professionals.
And then there's my niece who got a nursing degree in 18 months, had 4 interviews her first week out, and now makes more than your average 4-year college graduate. Go figure.
But anyway, yeah, I agree with you. Don't/. while high, it makes one ramble.
It's funny you mention the table-top RPG thing. A friend of mine and I were throwing around an idea a few years ago for a custom-built RPG setup. It was basically a glass-topped octagonal table with an LCD screen under the glass at each side and retractable keyboards underneath that. (alternatively we thought about a touch-screen interface with a palm-graffiti style input)
It had a central server (linux of course) that each terminal was Xhosted to. Each player would log in and their character data would be stored in their login profile. Maps could be sent, private messages for the sneaky types (I'm pickpocketing the cleric *cough*) the whole nine yards.
It was really fun setting up a design for this thing. We even started writing some code for it, but it turned out the LCDs were prohibitively expensive. Also, for all our technical knowledge, neither of us had any clue how to, er, build a table. Not something that would look decent and still stand upright anyway. It was a nice dream though.
Getting back on subject, this is pretty possible now with IM-capable phones/PDAs. Once they can interact with a user-controlled central server, it could all be done via PDA. Hell, a bunch of laptops with wireless connections sitting around the table would suffice, too.
Matt Damon's annoying by association, but at least he can act. Affleck is a retard. The only role he EVER pulled off believably was as the clothing store manager in Mallrats. And that's only because the character was a misogynistic abusive mouthbreather...not exactly a stretch for him.
I don't understand why they would cast Affleck for this role. This movie is obviously targetted at the youthful male action movie audience and the geek audience. Women are the only ones who like seeing this moron and they're not in great numbers in either of these target audiences. Whoever cast this needs to be beaten, then fired, then beaten again.
I think you're missing my point. The point being, quite a few people just plain don't like webmail. I can think of several people I know that won't use webmail accounts, and a few of them even use OE. They'd most likely move to Mozilla's standalone mail client. (can't remember the name, I use the unified Mozilla package's mail client)
Not that this is going to be an issue for the next 5 or 6 years anyway. They stopped developing OE, that doesn't mean all the copies out there are just going to stop working. Who knows what the state of email will be in 5 years...maybe we'll be checking it on our TV/telephones like in Bladerunner. =P
I think what he's saying is quite a good number of people won't WANT to use hotmail but will still want a decent mail client and can't afford Office. (and aren't interested in pirating it)
Even if this number is "low" enough to be in the hundreds of thousands, that's a market.
It's because poor people can't (or won't) regulate or control their fucking reproduction (no pun) in any way. Catholics aside, most middle to upper class people I know have only one or two kids. Most poorer people I know have at least 3 kids already and they're only in their early 20s. I work with homeless single moms, I see this shit every day.
That being said, over-population will become an even bigger problem because now folks are going to get less diseases and live even longer. And of course, left-wingers would fucking freak out if the gubbamint told citizens they can't have more than 1 or 2 kids. (and yet they also freak out with companies withhold medicines...which way do you want it, huh? I think they just like to feel morally outraged)
As far as your example of heart disease goes, I fail to see the relevance. Poor people get heart disease as much as the rich, if not more. They have less healthy eating habits, and are more likely to smoke or use drugs. (This is in America mind you, where malaria doesn't happen all to often anyway) Number one killer: Heart disease. Number two: cancer. Number three: diabetes. (i think) Note that all three can be controlled or prevented to some degree with lifestyle changes, as opposed to medication.
P.S. the people that modded you as a troll are retards. You may be over-stating your case a bit, but hardly trolling.
This is utter bullshit. A determined enough cracker is GOING to get into just about any system that's not run by a network security professional or a really sharp system administrator. You can't expect Joe Average to possess the same skills that get you paid 50-80k for.
What if a largely used exploit comes along for Linux that allow your system to get compromised? (Remember the BIND vulnerability a few years ago?) Would you want to get fined or do jail time because your system was uses to relay porn spam or participated in a DDoS before you were notified and patched it?
This is just another example of outright geek arrogance. I'd like to take this moment to remind you that excellent computing or gaming skills do not make you a superior human being. Thank you for listening.
If you want to hold someone responsible for Windows insecurities, start holding Microsoft responsible. They're the most profitable company on the fucking planet, you'd think that they could afford to hire a couple of engineers with security background. Leave the consumer out of this.
er, yeah MOnday-Thursday...my bad...readin/. while high.
I noticed it wasn't on all last week, I'm assuming they're just taking a week or two off to switch things around a little. (Or they're waiting on the next season of episodes...everything before was all 1st season AFAIK) Hopefully not too much longer, I like Home Movies and all, but it ain't Futurama.
Your case is partially true for electronics. Sure it's all printed on the same material, I'll give you that. But you have to take into account quality control, features, warranty, and how much you paid for it. You're only looking at 1 dimenson, namely the material it's made from. There's more to a product than that. For small simple devices (8 port hubs, NICs, etc) there may not be much variation at all. For something more complex (a motherboard, a DVD player) there are significant differences.
Outside of electronics, (which you never differentiated, you blanketly said all products are identical) you are completely and utterly wrong. Two food products made from the same materials might taste drastically different depending on the process used to make them, qualities of starting materials, and packaging. A Mercedes and a Daihatsu might both have the same materials in them in similar amounts....can you say they're the same thing?
I just don't see how you can apply your statement to everything based on some simple consumer electronics.
Just so I can be clear here...did you just say that all products are completely the same, regardless of manufacturer? Are you completely detached from reality? Ok, so all of the stuff we buy is "just commodity?" Ok, so all of that air you're breathing is "just molecules." Oxygen, radon, carbon tetrachloride...they're all molecules, it doesn't matter, right?
You had me nodding until rule #3. I'm glad that seeing 3 switches that were of similar design prompted you to make such a blanket statement, but I assure you that there are significant difference between make and model of almost any consumer product. Sure, brand name isn't always important, but you're just being silly.
Who says that SMB is the defacto standard for file sharing?
It is when you're interacting with Windows machines. Don't forget who still has the market cornered.
The original poster has a point...to do anything reasonably complex in Linux involves a good deal of research and trial-and-error to get it right. A compoarable process in Windows would take less time and researching due to the "hand-holding" nature of it. You sacrifice flexibility for ease of use. Linux is great for the technically inclined with time to kill. It's not so hot for someone who just wants to get things done.
Until we as a race learn to regulate and control our reproduction, this will never be made available to the general public, nor should it be.
Disease and aging are the only controls on our population, and the population is already skyrocketing out of control in many countries. We haven't advanced enough sociologically to find an ethical and reasonable way to keep people from spewing out babies, therefore extending life and reducing disease are not to our race's advantage right now.
Maybe if they offered "immortaility treatment" in return for sterilization, on the additional condition that you already have no more than one child. But somehow, I see this going the way of "Gattaca."
It's a bunch of BS. I had the same problem, so I tested my phone out on my roof. Still no reception, leading me to believe it was either a) a dead spot or b) the power lines.
Either way, AT&T told me to play "hide and go fuck myself" when I called to bitch. I moved, but I still get shitty reception all around town (Denver) any given trip of approximately 2 miles having at least 2 points where my service cuts out.
I'm getting rid of the phone when my contract is up. I'm not working a job where I need it anymore (school full time now) so screw em, I'm going low-tech. If anyone needs to reach me on campus, they can either drop me an email or develop telepathy.
At what point in the human reproductive process does the soul come into being? Is it formed at the moment of fertilization? If so, where was it before? What did it come from, what are it's origins? Does God stick a new soul in every new person or is it an automated process?
Or do you think there are little "half souls" in every sperm cell and egg. If so, is it murder every time you spill seed or menstruate and do not form a child? What about cloning or out-of-body fertilization? Do those people have souls, too?
Where is the soul "stored" in the body? The heart? The brain? The spleen? We can grow most organs from stem cells now...if we grow one of every organ from the same set of stem cells, is that a person? Is there a fraction of a soul in there?
Follow the logical spiritual conclusions from there.
There is no such thing as a "logical spiritual conclusion." That phrase should should go down in the record books with military intelligence and jumbo shrimp.
As for science proving or disproving the existance of "God", of course it's not possible. The concept of deities are that they are based on faith. You can't prove faith. It's like me trying to prove that my neice's imaginary friend does or does not exist. He might not exist for ME, but she sure thinks he does.
I'm glad you Christians have your faith and all. I'll never be the guy to say you can't believe what you want to, but you need to get over this superiority complex that so many of you have. Your belief that you are sitting in judgement before a great being in the sky does not make you any better than the guy who thinks we came from apes. (My beliefs are somewhere between the two)
Doubtful, considering there are other means of distribution. (WinMX, FastTrack, Gnutella, etc)
Napster wasn't forced to close. Napster shut down because they were forced to filter copyrighted material and thus most of their users went elsewhere. Apparently the ones looking for legitimately shared files are few and far between, and that would be pointed out by the RIAA. The people using Napster didn't HAVE to leave, they could have kept using it for indie stuff.
I'm not really trying to play devil's advocate here, I'm just trying to clarify why I don't think you have a case. Morally, it's fucking righteous, I'd love to see you win something like that. Legally, you got nothin.
My mistake. I was thinking these were the subpoenas being submitted to the defendents. And learn to spell before throwing the word "dumbass" around...dumbass.
heh...thanks man...we need all the luck we can get. Our government's way out of control right now and this terrorist shit that's going on (well, went on 2 fucking years ago) makes it so that dissenters are branded Unamerican. It's McCarthyism all over again. (If you're not up on your US history, McCarthy was the head of the FBI in the 50s and ran around labelling people as communists and it spread out into a wave of infectious paranoia and finger pointing)
Which is a good majority of users. Remember, everything you download gets shared back out. Downloaded 5 gigs of songs last month? Unless you moved em to another directory, they're being shared back out to the world. Your average user is going to install kazaa with default options on, which means it's going to start up when the computer does, and share all files in their shared folder. Big downloader==Big uploader.
I don't think so man. I'd say the fact that thousands of people using that name would instill reasonable doubt of the fact that it was even you. Especially if your ISP uses DHCP. The ones with really common or obvious names are probably going to come out of it ok, too. (I mean, come on, there's gotta be at LEAST 500 "Ashley@Grokster"s)
Honestly, I can't believe they even used kazaa screen names on the subpoenas. They obviously had to trace back IP addresses and get real names from ISPs, why not just use the real names on the subpoenas? Makes no sense at all to me. I think their lack of understanding of technology is going to bite them in the ass on this one.
Yeah, ok, games that use the Quake 3 engine. Got any others? Didn't think so. (BTW, all of those you mentioned are over a year old...try again)
OpenGL is dead, dude. I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'm not saying I like it. I'm just saying that's the harsh reality and you should get over yourself.
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That's all they're teaching the kids in college these days. Seriously. At the school I go to (i'm not a CS major) you have to take C/C++ as an elective. The core CS curriculum is all Java. I don't think they even teach assembly there. Good schools are probably different of course, but who can afford good school anymore?
/. while high, it makes one ramble.
I met someone the other day who had an an associates in Computer Science from a community college and had never used anything but an AS/400 and a Mac. (Not even Windows! Seriously!) I think people saw the dollar signs from 4-8 years ago and went to school for something they really are only marginally interested in just because they thought they could make a few more bucks. It's a damn shame too, because these shitty little tech schools (or community colleges hawking their tech "degrees") are doing a disservice to these people by making them that 1) they'll get a good education, 2) they'll have a job waiting for them when they graduate, and 3) they'll be respected by their peers in the IT biz as professionals.
And then there's my niece who got a nursing degree in 18 months, had 4 interviews her first week out, and now makes more than your average 4-year college graduate. Go figure.
But anyway, yeah, I agree with you. Don't
It's funny you mention the table-top RPG thing. A friend of mine and I were throwing around an idea a few years ago for a custom-built RPG setup. It was basically a glass-topped octagonal table with an LCD screen under the glass at each side and retractable keyboards underneath that. (alternatively we thought about a touch-screen interface with a palm-graffiti style input)
It had a central server (linux of course) that each terminal was Xhosted to. Each player would log in and their character data would be stored in their login profile. Maps could be sent, private messages for the sneaky types (I'm pickpocketing the cleric *cough*) the whole nine yards.
It was really fun setting up a design for this thing. We even started writing some code for it, but it turned out the LCDs were prohibitively expensive. Also, for all our technical knowledge, neither of us had any clue how to, er, build a table. Not something that would look decent and still stand upright anyway. It was a nice dream though.
Getting back on subject, this is pretty possible now with IM-capable phones/PDAs. Once they can interact with a user-controlled central server, it could all be done via PDA. Hell, a bunch of laptops with wireless connections sitting around the table would suffice, too.
Matt Damon's annoying by association, but at least he can act. Affleck is a retard. The only role he EVER pulled off believably was as the clothing store manager in Mallrats. And that's only because the character was a misogynistic abusive mouthbreather...not exactly a stretch for him.
I don't understand why they would cast Affleck for this role. This movie is obviously targetted at the youthful male action movie audience and the geek audience. Women are the only ones who like seeing this moron and they're not in great numbers in either of these target audiences. Whoever cast this needs to be beaten, then fired, then beaten again.
I think you're missing my point. The point being, quite a few people just plain don't like webmail. I can think of several people I know that won't use webmail accounts, and a few of them even use OE. They'd most likely move to Mozilla's standalone mail client. (can't remember the name, I use the unified Mozilla package's mail client)
Not that this is going to be an issue for the next 5 or 6 years anyway. They stopped developing OE, that doesn't mean all the copies out there are just going to stop working. Who knows what the state of email will be in 5 years...maybe we'll be checking it on our TV/telephones like in Bladerunner. =P
I think what he's saying is quite a good number of people won't WANT to use hotmail but will still want a decent mail client and can't afford Office. (and aren't interested in pirating it)
Even if this number is "low" enough to be in the hundreds of thousands, that's a market.
naw, it's because I railed on lefties. They're awfully sensitive.
It's because poor people can't (or won't) regulate or control their fucking reproduction (no pun) in any way. Catholics aside, most middle to upper class people I know have only one or two kids. Most poorer people I know have at least 3 kids already and they're only in their early 20s. I work with homeless single moms, I see this shit every day.
That being said, over-population will become an even bigger problem because now folks are going to get less diseases and live even longer. And of course, left-wingers would fucking freak out if the gubbamint told citizens they can't have more than 1 or 2 kids. (and yet they also freak out with companies withhold medicines...which way do you want it, huh? I think they just like to feel morally outraged)
As far as your example of heart disease goes, I fail to see the relevance. Poor people get heart disease as much as the rich, if not more. They have less healthy eating habits, and are more likely to smoke or use drugs. (This is in America mind you, where malaria doesn't happen all to often anyway) Number one killer: Heart disease. Number two: cancer. Number three: diabetes. (i think) Note that all three can be controlled or prevented to some degree with lifestyle changes, as opposed to medication.
P.S. the people that modded you as a troll are retards. You may be over-stating your case a bit, but hardly trolling.
This is utter bullshit. A determined enough cracker is GOING to get into just about any system that's not run by a network security professional or a really sharp system administrator. You can't expect Joe Average to possess the same skills that get you paid 50-80k for.
What if a largely used exploit comes along for Linux that allow your system to get compromised? (Remember the BIND vulnerability a few years ago?) Would you want to get fined or do jail time because your system was uses to relay porn spam or participated in a DDoS before you were notified and patched it?
This is just another example of outright geek arrogance. I'd like to take this moment to remind you that excellent computing or gaming skills do not make you a superior human being. Thank you for listening.
If you want to hold someone responsible for Windows insecurities, start holding Microsoft responsible. They're the most profitable company on the fucking planet, you'd think that they could afford to hire a couple of engineers with security background. Leave the consumer out of this.
And she's probably a lot smarter.
er, yeah MOnday-Thursday...my bad...readin /. while high.
I noticed it wasn't on all last week, I'm assuming they're just taking a week or two off to switch things around a little. (Or they're waiting on the next season of episodes...everything before was all 1st season AFAIK) Hopefully not too much longer, I like Home Movies and all, but it ain't Futurama.
In case you don't know, it plays on the Cartoon Network at 11pm, Sunday-Thursday. 5 nights of Bender a week! (And it's followed by Family Guy!)
Your case is partially true for electronics. Sure it's all printed on the same material, I'll give you that. But you have to take into account quality control, features, warranty, and how much you paid for it. You're only looking at 1 dimenson, namely the material it's made from. There's more to a product than that. For small simple devices (8 port hubs, NICs, etc) there may not be much variation at all. For something more complex (a motherboard, a DVD player) there are significant differences.
Outside of electronics, (which you never differentiated, you blanketly said all products are identical) you are completely and utterly wrong. Two food products made from the same materials might taste drastically different depending on the process used to make them, qualities of starting materials, and packaging. A Mercedes and a Daihatsu might both have the same materials in them in similar amounts....can you say they're the same thing?
I just don't see how you can apply your statement to everything based on some simple consumer electronics.
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0004078
Google is your friend. They aren't making this shit up, I promise.
Just so I can be clear here...did you just say that all products are completely the same, regardless of manufacturer? Are you completely detached from reality? Ok, so all of the stuff we buy is "just commodity?" Ok, so all of that air you're breathing is "just molecules." Oxygen, radon, carbon tetrachloride...they're all molecules, it doesn't matter, right?
You had me nodding until rule #3. I'm glad that seeing 3 switches that were of similar design prompted you to make such a blanket statement, but I assure you that there are significant difference between make and model of almost any consumer product. Sure, brand name isn't always important, but you're just being silly.
Who says that SMB is the defacto standard for file sharing?
It is when you're interacting with Windows machines. Don't forget who still has the market cornered.
The original poster has a point...to do anything reasonably complex in Linux involves a good deal of research and trial-and-error to get it right. A compoarable process in Windows would take less time and researching due to the "hand-holding" nature of it. You sacrifice flexibility for ease of use. Linux is great for the technically inclined with time to kill. It's not so hot for someone who just wants to get things done.
Until we as a race learn to regulate and control our reproduction, this will never be made available to the general public, nor should it be.
Disease and aging are the only controls on our population, and the population is already skyrocketing out of control in many countries. We haven't advanced enough sociologically to find an ethical and reasonable way to keep people from spewing out babies, therefore extending life and reducing disease are not to our race's advantage right now.
Maybe if they offered "immortaility treatment" in return for sterilization, on the additional condition that you already have no more than one child. But somehow, I see this going the way of "Gattaca."
It's a bunch of BS. I had the same problem, so I tested my phone out on my roof. Still no reception, leading me to believe it was either a) a dead spot or b) the power lines.
Either way, AT&T told me to play "hide and go fuck myself" when I called to bitch. I moved, but I still get shitty reception all around town (Denver) any given trip of approximately 2 miles having at least 2 points where my service cuts out.
I'm getting rid of the phone when my contract is up. I'm not working a job where I need it anymore (school full time now) so screw em, I'm going low-tech. If anyone needs to reach me on campus, they can either drop me an email or develop telepathy.
I believe a soul exists
So tell me...
At what point in the human reproductive process does the soul come into being? Is it formed at the moment of fertilization? If so, where was it before? What did it come from, what are it's origins? Does God stick a new soul in every new person or is it an automated process?
Or do you think there are little "half souls" in every sperm cell and egg. If so, is it murder every time you spill seed or menstruate and do not form a child? What about cloning or out-of-body fertilization? Do those people have souls, too?
Where is the soul "stored" in the body? The heart? The brain? The spleen? We can grow most organs from stem cells now...if we grow one of every organ from the same set of stem cells, is that a person? Is there a fraction of a soul in there?
Follow the logical spiritual conclusions from there.
There is no such thing as a "logical spiritual conclusion." That phrase should should go down in the record books with military intelligence and jumbo shrimp.
As for science proving or disproving the existance of "God", of course it's not possible. The concept of deities are that they are based on faith. You can't prove faith. It's like me trying to prove that my neice's imaginary friend does or does not exist. He might not exist for ME, but she sure thinks he does.
I'm glad you Christians have your faith and all. I'll never be the guy to say you can't believe what you want to, but you need to get over this superiority complex that so many of you have. Your belief that you are sitting in judgement before a great being in the sky does not make you any better than the guy who thinks we came from apes. (My beliefs are somewhere between the two)
Doubtful, considering there are other means of distribution. (WinMX, FastTrack, Gnutella, etc)
Napster wasn't forced to close. Napster shut down because they were forced to filter copyrighted material and thus most of their users went elsewhere. Apparently the ones looking for legitimately shared files are few and far between, and that would be pointed out by the RIAA. The people using Napster didn't HAVE to leave, they could have kept using it for indie stuff.
I'm not really trying to play devil's advocate here, I'm just trying to clarify why I don't think you have a case. Morally, it's fucking righteous, I'd love to see you win something like that. Legally, you got nothin.
My mistake. I was thinking these were the subpoenas being submitted to the defendents. And learn to spell before throwing the word "dumbass" around...dumbass.
heh...thanks man...we need all the luck we can get. Our government's way out of control right now and this terrorist shit that's going on (well, went on 2 fucking years ago) makes it so that dissenters are branded Unamerican. It's McCarthyism all over again. (If you're not up on your US history, McCarthy was the head of the FBI in the 50s and ran around labelling people as communists and it spread out into a wave of infectious paranoia and finger pointing)
Which is a good majority of users. Remember, everything you download gets shared back out. Downloaded 5 gigs of songs last month? Unless you moved em to another directory, they're being shared back out to the world. Your average user is going to install kazaa with default options on, which means it's going to start up when the computer does, and share all files in their shared folder. Big downloader==Big uploader.
I don't think so man. I'd say the fact that thousands of people using that name would instill reasonable doubt of the fact that it was even you. Especially if your ISP uses DHCP. The ones with really common or obvious names are probably going to come out of it ok, too. (I mean, come on, there's gotta be at LEAST 500 "Ashley@Grokster"s)
Honestly, I can't believe they even used kazaa screen names on the subpoenas. They obviously had to trace back IP addresses and get real names from ISPs, why not just use the real names on the subpoenas? Makes no sense at all to me. I think their lack of understanding of technology is going to bite them in the ass on this one.
Ah, I see. Because they're females they're automatically ignorant of technology and the legal system. You're not very good in relationships, are you?
Either you're joking, a complete misogynist, or I got suckered into a clever troll.
Yeah, ok, games that use the Quake 3 engine. Got any others? Didn't think so. (BTW, all of those you mentioned are over a year old...try again)
OpenGL is dead, dude. I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'm not saying I like it. I'm just saying that's the harsh reality and you should get over yourself.