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One Last New Episode of Futurama

Ant writes "Futurama's last new episode airs tonight at 7:00 PM on Fox." If you're missing your fix, there's a Futurama website with entirely too much Futurama info.

401 comments

  1. Site slashdotted - full article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't Get Enough Futurama
    -be right back-

  2. X-Bender by joe_bruin · · Score: 5, Funny

    fox can bite my shiny metal ass

    1. Re:X-Bender by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 1, Funny

      I second that emotion.

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    2. Re:X-Bender by tealover · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I never really liked the show. It was never *that* funny. Maybe would get a few chuckles but that's about it.

      Now Family Guy....that was funny!

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      -- You see, there would be these conclusions that you could jump to
    3. Re:X-Bender by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      for all of those who missed it, "i second that emotion was the name of a futurama episode" judging by the modding, this was as usual, missed by most

    4. Re:X-Bender by oolon · · Score: 4, Informative

      I like the Message at the beginning of Ep 5x16 "See you on some other channel"

      James

    5. Re:X-Bender by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Moderators, take note: the parent post is referring to the title of a Futurama episode and is therefore topical. If you don't see the humor, please have your hilarity unit tested asap.

    6. Re:X-Bender by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 2, Funny

      We are reasonably satisfied with the events we have seen. Overall I would rate it a C+; okay, not great.

    7. Re:X-Bender by NanoGator · · Score: 0, Redundant

      "fox can bite my shiny metal ass "

      To everybody who saw this episode, this particular comment is especially funny.

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      "Derp de derp."
    8. Re:X-Bender by xaaronx · · Score: 1

      We demand to see the spunky female lawyer!!!

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      It's amazing how much "mature wisdom" resembles being too tired. - Robert Anson Heinlein
    9. Re:X-Bender by jo42 · · Score: 1


      Watch Striperella on TNN instead...

    10. Re:X-Bender by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 1

      well... I posted that. And I didn't even know that was form futurama.

      Remember, sometimes a cigar is simply a cigar ;)

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      "Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
  3. RIP Futurama by Judg3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I love that show. It was on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim for like a month, but now it's on TNN (I think TNN) at 1:30 am and 1:30 pm (Central time).

    At least we can always have them on DVD.

    As I grew older, I definatly got more into Futurama then the Simpsons, even though I've been watching the Simpsons since 1990.

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    1. Re:RIP Futurama by rsmith-mac · · Score: 4, Informative

      It hasn't exactly moved, it's only being shown on more channels. It'll be back on CTN tomorrow, at a new time-slot of 11:30pm, with Family Guy moving to 11.

    2. Re:RIP Futurama by Judg3 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info rsmith. Even though that'll compete with a Simpsons rerun on Fox at the same time, I was really starting to get into the Family Guy - Futurama double header, anyway.

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    3. Re:RIP Futurama by bobobobo · · Score: 1

      Actually they're over on the TBS Superstation. All owned by the Time Warner cable umbrella. Yeah I hope it's back on Adult Swim soon. Home Movies is great and all, but I can't keep going into work late to catch Futurama the next day.

    4. Re:RIP Futurama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm 26 years old and have watched less than half a dozen episodes.

      It's an okay show, but it's not nearly as good as the Simpsons were when they were in their prime. Of course, I don't watch Simpsons anymore, either.

      I might watch Futurama if it were on DVD and I didn't have to pay for it, but buying the seasons at $40 a pop is a bit crazy.

    5. Re:RIP Futurama by mrpuffypants · · Score: 1

      Finally! Now I can watch The Daily Show at 10pm (CST) instead of waiting till midnite! Thanks Adult Swim!

    6. Re:RIP Futurama by Saint+Stephen · · Score: 1

      I've been recording it off TBS at 11:00 am PST M-F. Check your Tivo or ReplayTV!

      I think SciFi carries it too don't they?

    7. Re:RIP Futurama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least futurama, unlike its older brother the simpsons, will end having never aired a bad episode.

    8. Re:RIP Futurama by Doobian+Coedifier · · Score: 1

      Why not just call it the "Fox Dropped the Ball on Hilarious Cartoons Channel"

    9. Re:RIP Futurama by Hott+of+the+World · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Heh, as much as I hate to be a "me too" person, that is something I need to rally around.

      PS. Me too.

      Bye Bye Karma!

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    10. Re:RIP Futurama by CausticWindow · · Score: 0

      "Cartoon Network" is airing a show called "Adult Swim"?

      You Americans are sick.

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      How small a thought it takes to fill a whole life
    11. Re:RIP Futurama by frovingslosh · · Score: 2

      Amen. But here is one thing I've been completely unable to understand; I'm hoping that some lashdot reader will either be able to explain it or at least come up with a viable theory. This year's episodes are said to be episodes that were already in the can from last year. So why did they not show them during the regular viewing season, showing lame reruns of the Simpsons or other shows instead, and then show these new episodes in the summer when there are traditionally less viewers? I understand not showing a new Futurama when it's time slot is likely to be per-empted by a long sparts event (which just shows how hated Futurama was by Fox to have been put there in the first place), but it seems there were other weeks when these episodes could have been shown. They even used later time slots for some truely awful programming in the regular season; why were these episodes held nack until now?

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      I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
    12. Re:RIP Futurama by mrjive · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not a show, it's a block of programming targeted at adults, hence the title. If you've ever been a kid at a public swimming pool, you'll understand the title (forcing all the kids out of the pool so the adults can swim uninterrupted for a bit).

      What exactly is so sick about it?

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      If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. -George Carlin
    13. Re:RIP Futurama by Exatron · · Score: 2, Informative

      Fox wanted to make sure that Futurama couldn't have any real impact on ratings, good or bad, so several episodes from the fourth production season and one from the third were held back and aired sparingly over an additional season.

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      "Decepticons FOREVER!!!" - Ravage
    14. Re:RIP Futurama by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Simple answer: FOX sucks!

      They did everything they could to screw this series. I guess Groening pissed them off. Too bad... without Futurama Fox cuts their average audience IQ by a third.

      They are working their way to become the network for mouth-breathers. All they need to do is lose the Simpsons and Malcolm in the Middle.

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      You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
    15. Re:RIP Futurama by Synic · · Score: 1

      No, it's on TBS not TNN, and it's still on Adult Swim.

    16. Re:RIP Futurama by dracocat · · Score: 1

      Don't get too excited. The Adult Swim lineup changes like every week.

      I am still holding my breath and waiting for Inu-Yasha and Cowboy Bebop to come back. Right now there is nothing on that I like except Trigun and of course Home Movies.

    17. Re:RIP Futurama by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > All they need to do is lose the Simpsons and Malcolm in the Middle

      Malcolm is the single-most overrated show Fox has aired in years. The Mom is the only slightly funny character and the rest make me shrink back & feel embarrassed for the actors who actually have to speak the lines the horrible writers make for them.
      Why this lasted longer than the Chevy Chase show, I have no idea.

    18. Re:RIP Futurama by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it hits home better if you have kids. I find it to be probably the most genuine (if quite exaggerated) family sitcoms ever.

      They hit on so many aspects of the family dynamic that it amazes me. And I also have to disagree about the characters: I think they are all funny, perhaps because I identify with each of them in some way.

      Maybe the show only appeals to people with mental problems.

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      You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
    19. Re:RIP Futurama by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > Maybe the show only appeals to people with mental problems.

      No, I've got plenty of mental problems. It's just that mania isn't one of them, which seems to be the prevailing emotion in what (little) I have seen in the show.

      True, however, that I don't have kids, and probably never will.

    20. Re:RIP Futurama by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Well, Lois is a control freak who becomes incoherent with rage at the utter stupidity of her children. I can identify with the latter part on a daily basis.

      Hal is a big kid at heart, very insecure, and is hopelessly infatuated with his wife. He also tends to parent by "looking the other way" until problems blow up in his face. I can identify with that.

      Francis is basically a really good guy who is not above going to extreme measures to retaliate against people who treat him badly, and rebels strongly against abused authority. I can idintify with that, especially the latter... strongly.

      Reese is someone who is happy to completely let life pass him by, remaining blissfully ignorant of everything important, regardless of the consequences, which he doesn't let bother him. I can identify with that.

      Malcolm is the kid genius, who despite his prodigious IQ still has the same defective judgement of any teenager. He also fails to fit in precisely because he tries too hard to fit in. I can definitely relate to the former, although I never fit because I never fit in... and didn't try.

      Dewey is completely lost in his own world and therefore is the happiest and most normal of the lot. I can identify with that too.

      I think each character takes common traits (or personality foibles, what-have-you) and exaggerates them to comic proportion. That plus numerous examples of elaborate revenge against people who really have it coming to them. And to top it all off, like the Simpsons, despite being a seriously, dysfunctional family they really do love each other. And I can relate to that too.

      Hey, if you don't like it, you don't like it, but the show is definitely deeper than your average dumb sitcom.

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      You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
    21. Re:RIP Futurama by Peale · · Score: 1

      Yep, we were both modded down as 'offtopic.' Bologna!

  4. Nice link by LumberLumber · · Score: 0

    How about testing those links before posting the story.. Yea, you can bit my shiney metal ass too. --dan

  5. sad but by freedommatters · · Score: 5, Interesting

    i can't say it ever gripped me. i enjoy it. watch it now and again when tivo records it for me and generally find it very funny but for some reason it never had that "must see the next episode now" magic.

    1. Re: sad but by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1


      > i can't say it ever gripped me. i enjoy it. watch it now and again when tivo records it for me and generally find it very funny but for some reason it never had that "must see the next episode now" magic.

      Me neither, but notice that that description puts it far ahead of most of the crap you can find on television these days. Especially without a $90/mo cable habit.

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      Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
    2. Re:sad but by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's always been living in the shadow of the Simpsons which is quite unfortunate because it is actually a very funny show IMHO. I have both seasons on DVD and they're great, and sure while it might not be a laugh a minute like the Simpsons, there is some very clever, dry humour in there.

      I dunno what it is but I prefer the characters of Futurama, maybe because they are newer but they still each have their own zing about them - Fry, Leela, Bender, Amy, Prof F., Hermes and Zoidberg (the funniest cartoon character ever). Is it me or is Homer's stupidity getting a little tiresome?

      Add to that some great sci-fi - cool gadgets, more zany storylines, AND EXCELLENT COMPUTER JOKES! Some of the ones I can remember

      Sign in a Robot Church:
      "10 Sin
      20 Goto Hell"

      Wall plaque:
      "10 Home
      20 Sweet
      30 Goto 10"

      Bender: "I had a crazy dream, all ones and zeros, and I think I saw a 2 in there too!"

      And of course the episode in the haunted house with the flying Windows logo and eery startup sound.

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    3. Re:sad but by whereiswaldo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Is it me or is Homer's stupidity getting a little tiresome?

      It's not just you. I haven't watched the Simpson's in about 2 years. It just sucks since they've made it darker and just stoop too low for the sake of "laughs". I'll laugh when it's gone.

      Funny how shows start off great and then go to hell. Like "Friends". Whenever I hear something funny on that show, I turn my head and see that it's an older episode.

    4. Re:sad but by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      " but for some reason it never had that "must see the next episode now" magic. "

      For me it was because Fox kept pre-empting it for football. That and the 7pm time-slot was actually kind of hard to catch. Simpsons had me programmed to be ready at 8. Man I was addicted to that show when it was on right after the Simpsons.

      What really bugged me was that they showed Star Wars one Sunday at 5pm. Futurama would normally have been on at 7pm, following Star Wars. Seems like a pretty damn good lineup, dontcha think? Nope. We got two eps of King of the Hill that day.

      I can understand that Futurama didn't do it for ya, but I feel rather strongly that Fox really blew it when it came to giving Futurama a chance to develop a strong audience.

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      "Derp de derp."
    5. Re:sad but by lightsaber1 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I agree...FOX has to be THE worst network for scheduling consistency. The only thing you know for sure is when Simpsons is, well, except when they move it to 7:00 so they can show a movie at 8...between that and the endless commercials, it's ridiculous.

      FOX has some really good shows, and some really lousy shows, unfortunately they seem to focus more on pumping out a lot of lousy shows rather than focusing on the really good ones. Simpsons has taken a significant downturn in the last few years (since reality tv came out...coincidence? maybe). They seem to have gotten better this last season, but seasons 12 and 13 were really quite pathetic. They've also had several really good shows (imho) that they just didn't care about and dropped because nobody was watching or whatever -- except it was impossible to tell when the shows would be on...no wonder. Futurama and Family Guy both fit into this category.

      Let's just hope they don't blow it with their next good idea...and enough with the reality crap people! If I wanted reality, I'd go out...TV is supposed to be a break from reality.

    6. Re:sad but by a.deity · · Score: 1

      You want to talk about scheduling consistency? Try Nickelodeon. After growing up with the network and watching its decline, I'd all but given up when they brought out an excellent, funny, and intelligent cartoon, Invader Zim. Unfortunately, it was cancelled halfway into its second season, and four episodes remain unaired. Meanwhile, Viacom refuses to market a DVD, and Nickelodeon has stopped airing it, despite posts on their site. I'll check their TV schedule and possibly find an instance of that or another show, and they just won't show it, instead opting for another rerun of "Rocket Power" or something. Ech.

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    7. Re:sad but by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 1

      It sure was nice when the show focused on Bart and his mischief.
      "Vandal ecapitates town statue" (in Bart's scrapbook; episode 2 cars in every garage and 3 eyes on every fish)

    8. Re:sad but by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 1

      I meant decapitates, sorry about that.

    9. Re:sad but by finallyHasANickname · · Score: 1
      FOX has to be THE worst network for scheduling consistency.

      A few years back, I was an instant addict of Junkyard Wars. The Learning Channel jerked me around, which is kinda how I realized that I was hooked. Anybody think The Learning Channel is most fickle?

    10. Re:sad but by jmauro · · Score: 1

      Errr... Junkyard wars has been on Wednesday's at 8 central for quite a while. TLC isn't as crazy as FOX. Their weekend schedule changes (Sundays are always different), but the weekday schedule is fairly constant.

    11. Re:sad but by Alaska+Jack · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I know the whole "Jump the Shark" thing is overdone, but with the Simpsons, I can point to exactly the moment when the show jumped for me.

      It was when the doctors found Homer was stupid because he had a crayon jammed in his brain. Removing it made him smart, but there was a difficult period of adjustment, so at the end of the episode, he put the crayon back.

      That's not funny. That's f*&cking tragic and depressing.

    12. Re:sad but by isorox · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I've got the first 6 seasons of friends on dvd, but I dont even watch the latest ones.

    13. Re:sad but by aled · · Score: 2, Interesting

      By some amazing coincidence The Simpsons started downhill at the same time Mat Groening leave to Futurama...

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      "I think this line is mostly filler"
    14. Re:sad but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah...and a little touching, though....

      Had a Flowers for Algernon feel about it....

    15. Re:sad but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Wall plaque:
      "10 Home
      20 Sweet
      30 Goto 10


      Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet Home Sweet ...
    16. Re:sad but by Luigi30 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You forgot the prayer. "101100011011001010...2"

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    17. Re:sad but by xRizen · · Score: 1

      Incidently, that episode was named "Homr"... kinda like "Charly" or whatever from a certain book. *cough*

    18. Re:sad but by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

      The humor in Futurama is too intellectual (aside from the Bender beer drinking jokes, and the insipid stupidity of Fry) for your average viewing public, hence its decline into the dustbin of the airwaves (TVLand).

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      The more you explain it, the more I don't understand it. - Mark Twain
    19. Re:sad but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fry: There's no such thing as two.

    20. Re:sad but by F1re · · Score: 1

      What is it with this football that americans talk about? When I watch Rugby League or Rugby Union in Australia the match always goes for it's scheduled two hours. How long do American Football games go for?

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    21. Re:sad but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But surely with all OUR brains, we could subdue them asses to watch whatever we want to see on TV. I will start planning my revenge...now.

    22. Re:sad but by duplo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Add to that the episode in the haunted house where Bender freaks out when he reads 1010011010 written in blood on the wall !

    23. Re:sad but by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I finally realized that Fox was actively trying to kill Futurama when they pre-empted the show for post game football. I just hope the newer episodes make their way onto Comedy Central.

    24. Re:sad but by aweraw · · Score: 1

      It's due to the timeouts (sporting sense, not in the network sense) that they have in American football... it can sometimes take an hour to play the last minute of the game...

      where as Rugby League/Union don't have this inconvinience, once the game begins, it doesn't stop (save for penalties) until the time runs out...

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    25. Re:sad but by kamakot · · Score: 1

      Maybe the writers are telling you this when they make the characters rip on Fox.

    26. Re:sad but by rumpledstiltskin · · Score: 2, Informative

      also the episode when they were looking for the slurm prize and x-rayed bender's head. the x-ray of his head revealed a chip labeled 6502 (a logic chip).

    27. Re:sad but by xaaronx · · Score: 1

      Ahhh. Sweet, non-judgemental Fox Network.

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      It's amazing how much "mature wisdom" resembles being too tired. - Robert Anson Heinlein
    28. Re:sad but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ?SYNTAX ERROR IN LINE 10

    29. Re:sad but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kind of like the local channel here..
      Monday football games..
      will pre-empt the NEWS!!

    30. Re:sad but by glesga_kiss · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I wouldn't say "too intellectual", it's more "knowledgable". A lot of the jokes in Futurama are "in-jokes" where you must know what it's refering to to get the joke. For example, the "All your base are belong to us" when the aliens take over earth.

      The Simpsons had these gags, but they were a lot less prominent while other more obvious gags kept a wider audience amused.

    31. Re:sad but by doinky · · Score: 1
      Man, did you ever miss the point - that episode was SUPPOSED to be sad and touching; probably an answer to those (like myself) who bemoaned the slight slip towards the Married With Children problem (if you try too hard to be funny and forget to make the characters in the family care about each other, the humor goes all to hell).

      I thought it was one of the better episodes overall.

    32. Re:sad but by Fembot · · Score: 1

      The worst bit of simpsons is all those damm cameos in the newer episodes. That and the BBC only ever show about 20 episodes on repeat

    33. Re:sad but by Alaska+Jack · · Score: 1

      Not to debate this to death, but I did not miss the point. A *touching* episode was the one that goes over Maggie's birth, where at the end he's taped over the sign in his office so it says "Do it for her." *That's* touching. I repeat -- the "Homr" episode wasn't touching; it was tragic and depressing.

    34. Re:sad but by doinky · · Score: 1

      The "touching" part was Lisa's interaction with smart Homer, and Homer's difficulty deciding whether interacting with Lisa or the others was more important. It ranked right up there, for me, with Do It For Her.

    35. Re:sad but by jafac · · Score: 1

      I keep watching it because every episode, I hope for a quick shot of Amy naked.

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      These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
    36. Re:sad but by mhearne · · Score: 1

      Sounds pretty BASIC to me - The one that always comes to my mind, is Bender drinking a 40 ounce bottle of "Old Fortran" (A play on "Old English 800" malt liquor, of course - pretty hard stuff!).

  6. Fox (Sky in the UK) by Ella+the+Cat · · Score: 0

    I recently cancelled Sky Sports and Sky Movies, but I still watch Sky One (the basic entry package in the UK)? For Buffy - whoops - oh I know - Futurama - oh dear.

  7. Mirror by larry2k · · Score: 0

    Here's a mirror of the site:

    Can't Get Enough Futurama
    -be right back-

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    1. Re:Mirror by TC+(WC) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's being a bit of a jerk to bypass a measure they've obviously put in place to avoid horrible rape by the slashot hordes. :(

  8. Bit Torrent seeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could somebody start up some bit torrents? High quality, please, and one season per torrent.

    1. Re:Bit Torrent seeds by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

      All the eps are on p2p in decent quality. I have every ep on vcd, and am gonna get the dvds.

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      "Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
    2. Re:Bit Torrent seeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be illegal. Fox own the copyright to the show, which means you can't copy/distribute it without their permission.

    3. Re:Bit Torrent seeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Fox can bite my shiny metal ass.

    4. Re:Bit Torrent seeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd do this on my neighbor's wifi for you while smoking a blunt, but my laptop's in the shop.

    5. Re:Bit Torrent seeds by Izago909 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I am Lord Duh, master of the obvious. I shall now regale you with other tales. Things fall down, the sky is blue, water is wet, and you need to pay SCO if you want to run Linux. I hope this clears a few things up.

      http://home3.inet.tele.dk/erma/gary/pic19.htm

    6. Re:Bit Torrent seeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've somewhat (read: entirely) missed the point. Slashbots get all up in arms the moment their precious GPL is violated, but suggest freely distributing games/movies/music and other intellectual property and suddenly it's all good. Fucking hypocrites.

    7. Re:Bit Torrent seeds by Fembot · · Score: 1

      That proves exactly why "bender should not be allowed on TV"

      kids imitate what they see on tv. its a fact.

  9. Michael, a question? by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How is this "sweet juicy justice?" I think it's as unjust as hell to cancel such an intelligent and funny series that many, if not most Slashdotters love.

    1. Re:Michael, a question? by eggarsuit · · Score: 1

      Prof.: Not necessarily. This is a chance for Fry to test out my experimental anti-pressure pill. [He produces a huge pill] Fry: I can't swallow that! Prof.: Well then, good news! It's a suppository.

    2. Re:Michael, a question? by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      A TV show is intelligent? Now I have heard everything.

    3. Re:Michael, a question? by Drakonian · · Score: 1

      Hehe, did you think he was mocking you all? I never watched the show but I could tell it was an allusion. See?

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      Random is the New Order.
    4. Re:Michael, a question? by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      No, Futurama is my favorite show. I don't give a damn about karma and I'm not new here, having read this site for about 3 years.

      Michael has this way of slipping snide comments on top of stories that really pisses me off sometimes.

      If you spent that much time researching your little rebuttal to my post, you might have enough time to try watching Futurama and glory in quotes like this

    5. Re:Michael, a question? by Drakonian · · Score: 1
      I agree that Michael tends to do that, but I don't think he was deliberating trying to provoke anyone. That's just going too far.

      As for "that much time", it was probably faster to research it than to make a Slashdot post. The first link from a Google search

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      Random is the New Order.
    6. Re:Michael, a question? by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 1

      OK, let me explain myself. I thought it was silly to spend that much time on a rebuttal to my post.

    7. Re:Michael, a question? by finallyHasANickname · · Score: 1
      A TV show is intelligent? Now I have heard everything.

      About a week ago, Sen Brownback (R, KS) was running the show at what seemed to be an oversight committee for NASA. Something like this dialog took place:


      Senator to nervous-nice-old-nerdy-scientist: Mathematically, what is your opinion about the probability of there being life in the universe?

      Scientist: (pause) (deferential I-am-talking-to-egomaniacal-morons pause) (meek smile) Well, yes. It is my opinion that there is life out there.

      Same Senator: Me too. (as if that closed the case) So what is the future of humanity?

      All of a sudden, I had a pinch-me-this-can't-be-happening moment. America is like the most Type A personality infested place on earth, and our political system weeds out all but the strong willed in pursuit of elected office. On and on and on. Washington D.C. is like the most hostile place on earth to the stereotypical lazy philosopher king type and/or chin-in-hand-and-elbow-on-knee types. There is very little reason to suspect that C-SPAN would carry a question from a go-getter winner type fella, "So what is the future of humanity?" To a scientist? Shit almighty. That smells like humanism--like it's our choice. Can you imagine how many thousands of dollars would need to be added to the reelection budget to undo the damage of the label, "humanist"? It boggles the mind.

      Now you have heard everything!

    8. Re:Michael, a question? by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1
      And from that same episode:

      BENDER: (flicks fishing rod at fry's arse) FRY: Oh, my small intestine!

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    9. Re:Michael, a question? by btellier · · Score: 1

      America is like the most Type A personality infested place on earth, and our political system weeds out all but the strong willed in pursuit of elected office. On and on and on. Washington D.C. is like the most hostile place on earth to the stereotypical lazy philosopher king type and/or chin-in-hand-and-elbow-on-knee types.

      I love having this argument with people, particularly in bars. How precisely is the United States' democracy and capitalist society any different than any other first world country? Cite specific examples.

    10. Re:Michael, a question? by xaaronx · · Score: 1

      Well, it's the least (or at least one of the least) socialized country/ies in said group. We let pretty much anyone own firearms, and in some states carry them most places in a concealed manner. We execute people. We have more military might than any other human civilization ever. Most things that define "first world countries" are present here in an extreme not found elsewhere.

      I'm not commenting at the moment on whether these, together or separately, are good or bad. I'm just saying that the United States is, quantitatively and sometimes qualitatively, clearly a standout from those who followed us into the capialist republic experiment.

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    11. Re:Michael, a question? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber."
      "That's because we make lots of things better than other people."

      - {Freakazoid!}

    12. Re:Michael, a question? by finallyHasANickname · · Score: 1

      I love having this argument with people, particularly in bars. How precisely is the United States' democracy and capitalist society any different than any other first world country? Cite specific examples.

      Look. For three centuries, there has been a semi-permeable membrane around the U.S.A. If you are discontent where you are, and if that place (where you are) is outside the U.S.A. then you "invite yourself" in. We have a disproportionately high population of go-getters, of ambitious people. Our ethos is so opportunity-oriented that our left wing does not bother to gripe (even to itself!) about the "propertied classes". No. It's about proportions of borne responsibility in funding the government, equal protection for wage negotiations and the like. More often yet, the gripe from the left is, "There are not enough opportunities for..." Opportunities.

      Now what about the right wing in this country? For the sake of argument, I will grant the right wing every courtesy. Let's say American "conservatism" is legitimate and sincere. What is it? It is a nose-thumbing at Burke and the whole crowd. "Let the marketplace decide," decries the right wing. Bottom line in intellectual history, that's liberal. It seeks to preserve no particular social order but seeks to do what? To increase opportunity as a built-in feature of the ideology.

      Ok. Still staying on the right, and still being nice about it, let's move on to foreign policy, and we'll allow for a fork. First let us consider what we might (too) commonly call the neoconservative point of view along the lines of Perle, Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Company. So we worry about the spawning vats and Daddy War Bucks of insanely hateful practitioners of a warped variation on Muslim religious tradition. How do we do that, "neocon" style? We take out our huge American wallets. Then we kick out a vicious right wing racist dictator. (Translating "N.A.Z.I." into English and then translating "Ba-ath" into English, adapting for local prejudices, yields up pretty much the same formulas.) Then we point guns at millions of people, forcing them eventually to form a representative government that compels the tolerance of various ethic groups and religious traditions. It's liberal politics with guns and attitude. To some it's offensive, but its aim is not. Its aim is to offer someone else a society where ordinary people have what? Have what! Opportunity! That's where all the American prayer rugs point.

      Ok. Just as promised, let's consider a different kind of conservative in the U.S.A., the kind fashionably labelled "paleoconservative". They want hard-hat-wearing blue collar workers to have a shot at living like Ward and June Cleaver (at least in the off hours). They want kids to pray in school so that they will have a sort of emotional mindset that infuses self-discipline, which (through individual and opportunistic means in a labor market) offers them an earned petit bourgeois life that only a "paleoconservative" could consider fulfilling.

      What about the center? Look at Clinton/Gore/Lieberman/Bayh/Gephart/etc (the right wing of the Democratic Party) are aiming at: systemic moderation of health care costs to the average person, education funding assistance (for whom? for those ambitious enough to learn and to aim higher in their career), more cops to make ghettos safer (for business, um, opportunity) more loans to minority owned businesses and tax breaks for businesses in inner cities, etc. etc. etc., all of which aims at the enhancement of opportunity or the increase in the population exposed to the same.

      What about the left wing of the Republican Party? Yeah. What about it? Elizabeth Dole (cough-BS-cough) had "fundraising difficulties" in the 2000 primary campaign. Uh huh. Moving right along...

      How could the U.S.A. possibly cohere? From whence comes the "unum" after the "e pluribus"? Rule out ethnicity. Rule out religion. Rule out geographical ba

    13. Re:Michael, a question? by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 1

      probably because some of us weren't sure if Fox was going to release the last few episodes or not. for awhile there, it seemed like they were just going to drop the series, instead of showing all of the episodes.

    14. Re:Michael, a question? by Sloppy · · Score: 1
      A TV show is intelligent? Now I have heard everything.

      Yes, it passed the Turing Test. I started asking the TV show some questions to find out if it was really smart or not. It was so indignant and insulted by my questioning its intelligence, that it replied "Bite my shiny metal ass!"

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  10. Subscriber bastards! by stevens · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One comment's up and already the gotfuturama.com site's down.

    I'm sorry to see Futurama go. It started getting really funny, and I will use "Bite my shiny metal ass" in response to silly feature requests for many years.

    I bought the first episode DVDs already. *Sigh* and I will buy the rest when they come out...

    1. Re:Subscriber bastards! by mrpuffypants · · Score: 4, Informative

      FYI: Season two comes out this Tuesday.

    2. Re:Subscriber bastards! by macmouse · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      What on earth are you talking about?? Futurama is currently on season *five*.

    3. Re:Subscriber bastards! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DVD you ass raping idiot

    4. Re:Subscriber bastards! by mrpuffypants · · Score: 1

      That would be the DVD set of season two. Please read the parent.

    5. Re:Subscriber bastards! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      FYI: Season two comes out this Tuesday.
      I don't know about R1, but in R2 season 2 has been available for ages and season 4 is to be released in about 3 weeks.
    6. Re:Subscriber bastards! by Monkeybaister · · Score: 1
      Yeah, isn't Fox great?

      I was looking into getting all the seasons I could, and saw on the comments how Fox is horrible about getting them out in a timely manner, then just today I go on gotfuturama.com and then see that not only has season 1 been out over a year in the UK, but season 3 has been released, too!

      It's not like making DVDs is rocket science. It's a pretty clear cut process, especially when there is another DVD already made!

      Region codes are the biggest load of crap and nothing should be able to convince anyone otherwise.

    7. Re:Subscriber bastards! by isorox · · Score: 1

      FYI I have had season 1, 2 and 3 for ages, god bless region 2.

    8. Re:Subscriber bastards! by isorox · · Score: 1

      Broadcast season 5, but the DVD's (well, region 2 ones anyway), are in production seasons - theres 4 of them.

    9. Re:Subscriber bastards! by LittleGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

      One comment's up and already the gotfuturama.com site's down.

      It was preempted for a NFL Fantasy Football site.

      Oh, and if Bender says 'ass', Katherine Harris appears.

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    10. Re:Subscriber bastards! by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1

      Season 2 and 3 are already out here in the UK :-)

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    11. Re:Subscriber bastards! by xaaronx · · Score: 1

      I kinda like to use "Why don't you interface with my ass . . . by biting it!" whenever I can.

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  11. What is there to say? by orkysoft · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Futurama was without a doubt the greatest and funniest tv series I have ever seen. I'm also not surprised about the amount of Futurama quotes I see in sigs here on Slashdot. Check my friends list, most of them have them :-)

    Bite my shiny metal... OH NOOO!

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    1. Re:What is there to say? by capt.Hij · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree with you if restricted to the first season, when it was wonderful, but after that it got stale. I still like the Simpsons better. Even Homer has (d)evolved and is still funny. The characters on Futurama haven't changed since the first season, and they haven't found their niche.

      I do not go out of my way to see it. When I do see it, I chuckle and enjoy it, but I'm not going to go out of my way (i.e. go upstairs away from the terminal) to see it. It isn't worth wrestling the remote out of the death grip of anybody else in the family, and I probaly won't shell out the bucks for the DVD.

    2. Re:What is there to say? by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I suppose it depends on how you percieve it. For me, the Simpsons had its day years ago.. I don't even bother watching the new episodes any more because they've completely run out of ideas (there's only so far you can push the 'homer is stupid, lisa is neglected, and bart should be in care' line). It was all very two dimensional, since it had to reflect the boring life of a power plant worker each week (one who never actually to work, except in a couple of episodes.. no wonder he was trying to drink himself to death).

      OTOH Futurama had a lot further to go, because they could introduce new ideas each episode... no preconcieved ideas of what was possible and plenty of B-movies to do parodies of.

    3. Re:What is there to say? by radish · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah? What kind of saddo would use a futurama quote as his sig?

      Oh, err, wait....

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    4. Re:What is there to say? by orkysoft · · Score: 1

      Would you care for some "champagun"?

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    5. Re:What is there to say? by mattdm · · Score: 1

      Bite my shiny metal... OH NOOO!

      Heh. Looks like someone's seen the episode already.

    6. Re:What is there to say? by orkysoft · · Score: 1

      The Dutch Fox affiliate (V8) has approximately this business plan:

      while($income_from_commercials > $cost_of_reality_show + $overhead) {
      show_reality_show;
      show_commercials;
      $money += $income_from_commercials - $cost_of_reality_shows - $overhead;
      }

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      I suffer from attention surplus disorder.
    7. Re:What is there to say? by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      <taunt style="nelson">
      HAH-HAA!
      </taunt>

    8. Re:What is there to say? by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      The best part of Futurama was that it retained the ability to have real emotional depth. It managed to be a goofy comedy but also actually maintain believable characters in an unbelievable world. The payoff was episodes like the one about Fry's dog, which actually pulled off a genuinely heartbreaking ending without flinching or spoiling it with a cheap gag. Futurama very obviously had someone's passion poured into it, and as goofy and geeky as it was, and maybe it didn't always work, but there was clearly someone behind the show with something more to express than just "everything is stupid and retarded!" That's probably another reason Fox hated it: it actually broke out of the format of non-stop gags and dabbled in sincerity.

    9. Re:What is there to say? by xaaronx · · Score: 1

      You hit the nail on the head. This is also the reason I, after years of not wanting to even give it a chance, eventually became a King of the Hill fan. I had expected it to be like Beavis and Butthead, which I got kind of tired of after about a year. But one episode made me a fan: the one in which the Buddhist monks are looking for the reincarnation of a certain Lama and think Bobby could be him. That episode showed me that King of the Hill had a lot more heart than I'd given it credit for.

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    10. Re:What is there to say? by Glyndwr · · Score: 1

      Dammit, I think you beat me to that quote, which I only put in my sig a few weeks back...

      But then, I added them after buying the season 3 DVDs, which came out here in .uk about six weeks ago. I nearly fell off my chair when I realised that the US hasn't even got Season 2 yet, which we've had for over six months. What's up with that?

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    11. Re:What is there to say? by radish · · Score: 1

      And us brits are always complaining about getting stuff late. I need to go and stock up before I move to the USA next month...

      BTW - my second fave quote is from the same episode, and also from Zapp - "She's built like a steak house but she handles like a bistro". :)

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      ---- Den ene knappen er powerknapp, den andre er Bender voice knapp "Bite My Shiny Metal Ass"

    12. Re:What is there to say? by jafuser · · Score: 1

      It was all very two dimensional,

      I guess you didn't see Treehouse of Horror VI... =)

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  12. ...links?... by splint3r · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Is it just me or do the posts proclaiming "mirror" actually have no such link to a mirror?

    1. Re:...links?... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody's going to set up a website just to mirror:

      Can't Get Enough Futurama
      -be right back-

    2. Re:...links?... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you didn't get the joke - the site is /.'d and is just returning a blank page - probably because their sysadmin was on the ball enough to set a blank page to stop the server biting my shiny..oops..crashing

  13. Zap Branagan and Kif rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While I thought Matt played it a little too cute with the Fry-Leela connection and almost all the subplots involving Bender, any episodes with Zap Branagan and Kif were works of pure genius that rivaled even The Simpsons.

    1. Re:Zap Branagan and Kif rule by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 3, Funny
      While I thought Matt played it a little too cute with the Fry-Leela connection and almost all the subplots involving Bender, any episodes with Zap Branagan and Kif were works of pure genius that rivaled even The Simpsons.

      And that's why you'll never make Captain, Kif.

    2. Re:Zap Branagan and Kif rule by 0racle · · Score: 1

      What are you people idiots, did you see that eye on Leela, who wouldnt want to be frozen for 1000 years to meet her

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    3. Re:Zap Branagan and Kif rule by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 1

      Leela is the marrying type, but I'd give up Slurm for a few nights with Amy Wong.

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    4. Re:Zap Branagan and Kif rule by Otter · · Score: 4, Funny

      Agreed, and agreed but my heart still belongs to the aliens from Omicron Perseid 8: "This is ancient Earth's most foolish program. Why does Ross, the largest Friend, not simply eat the other 5?" "Perhaps they are saving that for sweeps."

    5. Re:Zap Branagan and Kif rule by stalinvlad · · Score: 0

      There you go then, ask FOX to give Zap his own series
      Just as with Hommer there is the suggestion of some inner gay conflict
      So here is a brain dead question: Who whould be a Marge?

    6. Re:Zap Branagan and Kif rule by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 2, Funny
      So many timeless quotes..

      Brannigan: Have the boy lay out my formal shorts.
      Kif: The boy, sir?
      Brannigan: You. You lay out my formal shorts.
      ...
      Brannigan: Kif! Inform the troops: I have mated with a woman.

    7. Re:Zap Branagan and Kif rule by bicho · · Score: 1

      Well, I lovved the "Tales of Interest!".
      Specially the one of Planet N64.

      that one was great!

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    8. Re:Zap Branagan and Kif rule by xaaronx · · Score: 1

      Of the Mars Wongs?

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    9. Re:Zap Branagan and Kif rule by Glyndwr · · Score: 1

      "Oh, I'm sorry. You're crying, like a girl."

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    10. Re:Zap Branagan and Kif rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "We're not really that rich.".

      "What sorority did you belong to?"

      "Kappa Kappa Wong".

  14. Sad.. by OmniVector · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Futurama (made by Matt Groening) was a lot better than Simpsons ever was. Though i'm sure that will start a holy war.

    The simspsons was geared a lot towards children usually, where I always felt Futurama was more for adults (Any one remember the death by snu-snu joke in the amazon woman episode?)

    Oh well, just another shining example of how Fox knows how to cancel the best shows: Now i've lost my family guy AND futurama fix :(

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    1. Re:Sad.. by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh geez....

      There are a bunch of things wrong with your post, but I'll stick to one that you should understand. Here's what you wrote:

      "Oh well, just another shining example of how Fox knows how to cancel the best shows: Now i've lost my family guy AND futurama fix :("

      The thing about this is that Fox actually approved/funded/aired these shows in the first place. Fox is far from perfect, I'm no fanboy, but the other big networks don't tolerate stuff like Family Guy and Futurama. Fox stuck with the show through four years of poor ratings, and with Family Guy through three years or so of dismal ratings.

      Fox is a business. They need to maximize profits. That aside, the fact that they take risks on shows like these is good for us, because occasionally, the quirky show turns out to be a money maker.

    2. Re:Sad.. by Judg3 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Simpsons started out more for children, then went to more of an adult/child mix and now, well they are running out of ideas and losing steam. The newer episodes of "The Simpsons" don't have quite the dry wit and snappy comebacks anymore like they used to. More or less reusing old ideas from a decade ago. Don't get me wrong, I still watch it, but not as religously as I did in the mid to late 90's (when I feel they hit their sweet spot).

      Futurama is definatly more adult oriented, but still has the site gags and what not that children love, so it still makes for a good family show.

      Then again it's not really fair to compare the two shows really. Simpsons have been around 14 years, Futurama 5. Though I do think the 5th season of Futurama is superior to a 5th season Simpsons, but Groening has grown as an artist since that time, so that can be expected.
      Let's just hope Futurama gets the syndication that the Simpsons has, and I'll still be happy!

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    3. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fox's best show is COPS and is still going strong. In 30 minutes you get to see at least 3 real live pathetic negroes or rednecks. BEST SHOW EVAR!

    4. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dont think simpsons was for children.. my mom didnt allow me to watch it. I didnt star watching it until i was like 14 or 15 and i would sneak it as if it was drugs or something

    5. Re:Sad.. by dema · · Score: 1

      Geared towards children? are you insane? The Simpsons is a purely satirical look at American life. It is everything but specifically geared towards children. The great things about The Simpsons is that the older you get, the more you understand about the show and the funnier it is.

    6. Re:Sad.. by rbullo · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Actually, according to www.familyguyfiles.com,
      Despite the huge fan base, the show's edgy content and brash humor (remember when The Simpsons used to be that way?) doesn't sit well with the advertisers. Of course, it doesn't help when a network moves a show every week to a new time slot. How was anyone expected to watch it?
      So, apparently the "dismal ratings" were Fox's own damn fault.
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    7. Re:Sad.. by barzok · · Score: 5, Informative
      Fox is far from perfect, I'm no fanboy, but the other big networks don't tolerate stuff like Family Guy and Futurama. Fox stuck with the show through four years of poor ratings, and with Family Guy through three years or so of dismal ratings.
      Both of which Fox sabotaged. Futurama moreso than Family Guy. Futurama was put in a timeslot where at least 10 weeks a year (7 PM Sunday - NFL games run to 7:30 regularly), it would be pre-empted, and Fox knew that when they put it in that timeslot.

      Family Guy - when it was on Fox, I never knew when it was airing. Sunday? Monday? Tuesday? Friday? They kept moving it, so they were never able to snare a viewer base.
    8. Re:Sad.. by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The thing about this is that Fox actually approved/funded/aired these shows in the first place. Fox is far from perfect, I'm no fanboy, but the other big networks don't tolerate stuff like Family Guy and Futurama.

      Fox certainly is willing to take risks other networks don't... That is how it works if you want people to watch your fourth banana network. Imagine how hard it is to get good shows if you're a fifth or sixth banana, like UPN/WB are? However, part of taking risks is knowing that you sometimes have to STICK WITH IT for a while, and not just by not cancelling it.
      Fox stuck with the show through four years of poor ratings, and with Family Guy through three years or so of dismal ratings.

      Fox did more to sabotage that show than they did to help it. (Many television networks are guilty of this, not just Fox. See also "Ed" on NBC.) First, they changed timeslots over and over and over again so that even people who already KNEW the show was good never knew when to tune in. Frequent timeslot changes had more to do with Family Guy not finding a big audience in first run. The show should be on where "Malcolm in the Middle" is now, and Malcolm should be slinging shakes at Mc Donald's.

      Contrast this with Cartoon Network, where Family Guy beat Jay Leno AND David Letterman COMBINED in the 18-34 demographic several evenings in July. How did this happen? They picked a good time, put it on, left it there, and promoted it. Amazingly enough people watch.

      This is both extraordinary and revolutionary... [/sarcasm]
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    9. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Futurama (made by Matt Groening)....

      Was there a Futurama that was made by someone other than he?

    10. Re:Sad.. by classic66coupe · · Score: 0

      you are a moron. How can you say the simpsons started out for kids. Bart, who called his dad by his first name and said "hell" on more than one occasion. The show rags on every religion and nationality. The show air on the Tracy Morgan show, how many kids watched that ! ? Yea, that is a kids show. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the show, but you are an idiot.

    11. Re:Sad.. by leviramsey · · Score: 1
      However, part of taking risks is knowing that you sometimes have to STICK WITH IT for a while, and not just by not cancelling it.

      They did stick with it... 5 years of Futurama and 3 years or so of Family Guy. If ABC even had the cojones to put Futurama on, they would have seen the ratings and cancelled it before 8 episodes (which I realize is 1 season on the BBC...).

    12. Re:Sad.. by leviramsey · · Score: 0

      But by the same token, when it doesn't get pre-empted, that's a huge ratings benefit. NFL games are the best lead-ins yet devised; one need only look at the ratings of 60 Minutes to see that. Especially if the NFL games run to 7:10 or 7:15, in which case you're basically stuck on Fox or CBS for the evening (assuming that they simply move the rest of the night back by 15 minutes).

    13. Re:Sad.. by phaetonic · · Score: 1

      The state of the Simpsons has created an influx of support from the academic arena. I've seen classes in college that solely discuss the psychological aspects of the Simpsons. Sounds silly? http://www.psychologytoday.com/current.asp

    14. Re:Sad.. by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Futurama was shown for four years, of which for three it was put in a time slot where it'd be pre-empted by continually overrunning sports programmes for most of the year - Fox saw it as quality filler, not as a program to built an audience for.

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    15. Re:Sad.. by Dj · · Score: 1

      Case in point, Clerks The Animated Series. What was that, two/three episodes aired tops?

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    16. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't "Anonymous Coward" a redundant statement?

    17. Re:Sad.. by EpsCylonB · · Score: 1

      (Many television networks are guilty of this, not just Fox. See also "Ed" on NBC.)

      That show deserves to be cancelled.

    18. Re:Sad.. by EnVisiCrypt · · Score: 1

      You are not nice. And an idiot, apparently, as you've called this gentleman. The show aired on the Tracey Ullman show, not Tracy Morgan.

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    19. Re:Sad.. by Peyna · · Score: 1

      There's parts of it that are meant for children; it's kind of like the opposite of kid shows. The main focus is adults, but there's enough in there too keep the kids entertained. In kid shows the main focus is children, but there's always a few jokes or subplots above the kids heads that will entertain the parents.

      Anyone who thinks that The Simpsons is a kids cartoon hasn't gone through puberty yet.

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    20. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      even if the game ended early they would always air a post game show or go to another game till 7:30 I never once remember futurama actually playing after a game

    21. Re:Sad.. by RickHunter · · Score: 4, Informative

      I refer you to one of the latest episodes of Futurama, the one with the execubots. Family Guy fell victim to Execubot Beta (the dice-roller), while Futurama got nailed Execubots Gamma (programmed to underestimate middle America) and Alpha. (programmed to like things it has seen before)

      Seriously, justifying things through ratings is a cop-out. Both shows are great, but the ratings system is set up to punish anything that's not ruthlessly mass-market. (Or rather, what the networks WANT to be mass-market this season) Simpsons came out of nowhere and hit them between the eyes in the early '90s, and they don't want to risk that happening again... But they also don't want to be seen as not sponsoring anything new. So you get kamikaze shows, like Family Guy or Futurama.

    22. Re:Sad.. by ctr2sprt · · Score: 5, Insightful
      My impression of the Futurama situation is that the show wasn't canceled because of lack of money or viewers, but instead because of politics. Apparently Groening got a much better contract this time around, which allowed him not just to keep greater control of the show, but also take home more of the profits from it. Groening, at least, believes that Fox are resentful of that and so have tried to keep the show moderately, but not highly, successful. So they keep stuffing it into timeslots where they know it will be preempted, not advertising it at all, and so on. Keep in mind that despite this screwing the show's ratings were pretty much in line with King of the Hill, a more mainstream show in a better timeslot. I have no idea if this is still the case, but it was back when Fox made the decision not to get any more Futurama episodes.

      I don't have a problem with Fox canceling shows that nobody watches. (I don't like it, but hey, it happens.) My problem is that they didn't seem to give Futurama a chance after the first season. It's honestly like they were trying to kill it, and many people close to the situation say that's exactly what was happening.

    23. Re:Sad.. by Mostly+Harmless · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "The simspsons was geared a lot towards children usually, where I always felt Futurama was more for adults (Any one remember the death by snu-snu joke in the amazon woman episode?)"

      I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. One of the things that I like most about the Simpsons is that the show seems to have evolved (read: grown) with its audience. When I watch the first few seasons, those that were aired in my pre-teen/teen years, I can see how easily I related to them then -- they were geared more towards children. But the show became more sophisticated, IMHO, as the seasons progressed. Well, maybe not "sophisticated" per se, but definitely more adult insofar as the humor is concerned. Futurama, as much as I love the show, seems to have peaked too early, as if there was never much room to grow. With that said, I will miss Fry and Bender dearly, but until the Simpsons are through, I really don't care.

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    24. Re:Sad.. by Threni · · Score: 1

      > remember when The Simpsons used to be that way

      No, because I don't think its got any worse.

    25. Re:Sad.. by zoeblade · · Score: 1

      The simspsons was geared a lot towards children usually, where I always felt Futurama was more for adults (Any one remember the death by snu-snu joke in the amazon woman episode?)



      By adults, do you mean Kevin-Smith-fan-type adults?

    26. Re:Sad.. by DaveSchool · · Score: 1

      That's because while a great show, it was mis-marketed and not very well thought out.

      I really would like to oknow the TV exec who turned Clerks into a CHILDREN'S CARTOON. They had to change Jay and Silent Bob's characters at the last minute, because they TV execs didn't know they were drug dealers. WTF?

    27. Re:Sad.. by linto5 · · Score: 1

      Futurama was on at like 5:30 in Texas. They used to run it BEFORE the reruns of The Simpsons and KOTH on Sunday evening.

    28. Re:Sad.. by aliens · · Score: 1

      The problem with Futurama's timing is that while it stayed in one spot 7:00pm EST. Most of the year it was skipped over due to Football. So you might sit yourself down at 7 and never see an episode.

      This made it extremely hard to get a solid fanbase IMHO. Who knew when it would air next, would it be new? would they run last weeks that was skipped?

      I'd like to see any show hangon at 7pm for 4years :(

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    29. Re:Sad.. by Pionar · · Score: 1

      >>Simpsons came out of nowhere and hit them between the eyes in the early '90s, and they don't want to risk that happening again

      Now that's just a dumb, ignorant statement. Why would FOX want to sabotage its own shows? Ratings = higher ad retes (especially during sweeps month) = more $$ for Rupert Murdoch.

    30. Re:Sad.. by barzok · · Score: 1

      7-7:30 on the east coast. But regardless of your timezone (except for the west coast maybe), Futurama probably got shafted by football games regardless.

    31. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't even know that futurama was still airing new episodes on fox. I have not seen a single ad for it in years (on that channel), and yet I would stay up and watch it on cartoon network because I knew when and where it was on. Imagine that.

    32. Re:Sad.. by damien_kane · · Score: 1

      Simpsons started out more for children

      That could not be further from the truth.
      Simpsons started out more as a children for adults.
      It wasn't on until after prime time (which 13 years ago most children were forced to bed after prime time).
      Homer was always the star of the show, until recently.
      The cartoon, however, has grown somewhat pale in its political, economical, and religious satire. That, combines with an increase in the amount of would-be 'offensive' material children nowadays are exposed to*, makes the Simpsons now a childrens show.
      It was the same with South park (which still somewhat is for adults, but getting more and more for children every season).

      * offensive is reference to what would have been considered 13 years ago on television.
      Reference also movie and game ESRB ratings.

    33. Re:Sad.. by linto5 · · Score: 1
      7-7:30 on the east coast. But regardless of your timezone (except for the west coast maybe), Futurama probably got shafted by football games regardless.

      Yup. I guess mt poorly stated point was that the show was on almost two hours before the Simpsons, when people weren't ready to veg in front of the TV yet.

    34. Re:Sad.. by xRizen · · Score: 1

      That was an incidental, rather than restrictive, clause. Please, sir, learn English before bothering to post in it.

    35. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Soeaking of kamikaze shows, I just finished watching the last episode and what should come on but Banzai...

    36. Re:Sad.. by CatKnight · · Score: 1

      anyone think that BONZAI!!! will do any better than futureama? I sure hope not, because that would send a terrible message that playing brainless "WHEN ___ ATTACKS" shows pays off better then original humor.

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    37. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, that episode, called "Amazon Women in the Mood" won an Emmy.

    38. Re:Sad.. by Cplus · · Score: 1

      Hey, we're adults too, nothing wrong with the occasional dick-and-fart joke. Most of the movies out there are much, much worse. At least the Kevin Smith flicks are intelligently written and contain great dialogue, which is more than I can say about the latest installment of "The Terminator" or "Bad Boys II". Most movies are pap...though Kevin Smith is definitely lacking in the cinematography department at times.

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    39. Re:Sad.. by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1

      For those who aren't in region two...that episode contains a cut scene where one amazonian says to another "Me have love that dear not speak it's name". A nice homage to Oscar Wilde.

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    40. Re:Sad.. by Kinetix303 · · Score: 1

      The Bonzai that you have on in the states is wayyyyy tamer than it is up here in Canada. It's been showing up here for a few years now, and they get pretty racy at times. Full frontal nudity of 16 year olds(It's okay if you've got parental consent!), language that would make a sailor blush... and they actually say things like 'gambling' (oh no!) and take a drink and pour another.

      It doesn't sounds like a big deal, but trust me, the fox version is heavily patheticized... and everything that they cut out gets replaced with more commercials.

    41. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget "The Tick"!

    42. Re:Sad.. by Bob9113 · · Score: 1

      Oh well, just another shining example of how Fox knows how to cancel the best shows:

      In order to cancel a great show, a network must first run a great show. I'd rather see Futurama cancelled after a few seasons than endure yet another not-yet-discovered-plastic-actors-pretending-they' re-doing-a-reality-show show on NBABCBS. We should be giving Fox credit for having the balls to put on risky shows in the first place, not chastising them for pulling them when they're running below the red line.

    43. Re:Sad.. by Blondie-Wan · · Score: 1

      They didn't stick with it; there were only 4 seasons of Futurama produced, and the only reason it's run for 5 years is because Fox preempted the show so often that even without rerunning episodes, they still had spill over into a fifth season. In other words, it was on less than half the time a given show would normally be on over the course of five years.

    44. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kevin Smith sucks. Just because a single comicbook fanboy loser got rich and ended up banging a hottie doesn't in any way make it an acceptable lifestyle.

    45. Re:Sad.. by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

      The thing about this is that Fox actually approved/funded/aired these shows in the first place.

      I disagree. Its cruel to present really creative product and then just label the originators as failures. I'd prefer to think of TV as incapable of producing quality entertainment, and ignore it, than to enjoy a good start of a series and then wonder if Fox is going to kill it. In fact, I suspect that like Pavlovian indoctrination, it will cause many "quality" programs to be aborted throughout major TV networks, because they will seem to have "something in common" with those failed Fox shows. Also, its preferable for a good idea to be rejected before production, only to be produced later in better conditions. You don't see any movie box office failures given another shot. The same goes for TV shows.

      And as many people have pointed out, its Fox's incompetence and/or malice that might have been the real culprit of these shows' failure to capture an audience.

      Fox is a business. They need to maximize profits.

      But good television is like a good play or movie. Its art; it manifests ideals and presents unique points of view which engage and enrich the viewers. Its what makes Science Fiction such a great genre of literature. Can you imagine Fox Management of today debuting Star Trek or The Twilight Zone? We're seeing good potential shows being aborted before our very eyes.

      I'm certainly not suggesting Fox should somehow be regulated from killing shows. But I'll be damned if I'll praise their dedication to short term profit in their decisions to kill obvious quality, but long-term, projects. I want them to suffer the fate of any incompetently run company. Fiscal collapse when their bread & butter products become obsolete, and enough bad quarters so the shareholders sack the managements' loser asses.

      Sure, corporations need to maximize profits. Don't you love they way they abandon hybrid powered cars so they can invest in producing gas-guzzling SUVs, all in the name of profit? Move jobs out to Mexico and India, and reduce the quality of product, all in the name of profit? Can you finally realize why some people are disgusted by these corporations?

      Thank God for the Age of the CD-R & MPEG. At least now I can enjoy and demonstrate the Fox Channel's incompetence in programming selection. Unlike the forgotten Cupid (ABC), "Homeboys from Outer Space" (UPN), and Ralph Bakshi's Mighty Mouse (CBS).

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    46. Re:Sad.. by classic66coupe · · Score: 0

      close enough loser.

    47. Re:Sad.. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Please bear in mind Fox ended up with a lot less control of futurama, and ended up with the short end of the contract.

      It would be nice if it was just business, the Futurama ratings where pretty good, considering how much it was yanked around.
      Unfortunatly, FOX didn't have the control they thought they should have, that is why it got a losy time slot.

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    48. Re:Sad.. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      IN a few years, your going to have kids, and Malcomn in the middle will become the funnies damn show on tv.

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    49. Re:Sad.. by RickHunter · · Score: 1

      Higher ad rates? Yeah, right. Despite the ratings, Futurama and Family Guy were too "edgy", so they scared away advertisers despite their popularity. But the same popularity ment Fox couldn't just dump them without the public raising a stink. So it played the normal schedule game a network does when it has a show that's popular with viewers but not the "real customers" (advertisers) until the ratings finally dipped low enough that they could be dumped.

    50. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The simspsons was geared a lot towards children usually, where I always felt Futurama was more for adults (Any one remember the death by snu-snu joke in the amazon woman episode?)

      The Simpsons was geared towards children? Maybe the last couple of seasons but maybe you're just not enough of an adult to get all the adult humor that was packed into all the episodes. For example while visiting a zoo, a sign in the background pointed to "Habitat for Huge Manitees"; that's a hell of a lot more adult and sophisticated than a death by sex joke that children would find lame.

    51. Re:Sad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you serious? It's embarassing now and has been for a long time.

  15. another good show gone by classic66coupe · · Score: 1

    much like Family Guy, another good cartoon gone. All that is going to be left is crappy reality shows on TV :-(

    1. Re:another good show gone by phillymjs · · Score: 1

      But look at it this way... eventually you will be able to own the entire production run of both of these shows on DVD, and watch those when the dreck that passes for "fresh, new shows" are airing.

      ~Philly

  16. Had too much information by Rosyna · · Score: 3, Funny

    GotFuturama had too much information. Now it's /.'d and has effectively no information.

    1. Re:Had too much information by FurryFeet · · Score: 1

      Are you saying it got whacked because it knew too much?
      When did the Futurama thread turned to the Godfather?

  17. Sigh... by rbullo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is it that the good shows never last? For example, Family Guy was hilarious, but Fox cancelled it because advertisers were reluctant to run ads on such an edgy show. Now they are taking down Futurama, which is consistently funnier than this newest season of The Simpsons. And shows like King of the Hill, of which only the first season was funny to me, is still going strong. And don't get me started on that prime-time soap opera known as Friends.

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    1. Re:Sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why is it that the good shows never last?

      Because nothing does.

    2. Re:Sigh... by Ecko_viLAn · · Score: 1, Insightful

      becuase the general public doesn't like having to think to get a laugh, the simpsons stoped being funny about two years ago for me, and king of the hill just hasn't been great at all. Futurama and Family guy are still goign strong in the humor and substance area for me, will just have to go out and buy the dvds of them.

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    3. Re:Sigh... by utd-blaze · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can respect that you dont think king of the hill is funny. Different people have different tastes in comedy, but understand that king of the hill is a quality show. I have never seen a tv show capture the look, feel, and soul of a community the way that king of the hill portrays alren (arlen is a psuedonym for garland, a dallas suburb). Anyone from the area will tell you that king of the hill is not a comedy, its a documentary.

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    4. Re:Sigh... by heli0 · · Score: 1

      For television networks "good = ratings". That's all there is to it.

      A show can be critically acclaimed and have rabid fanboys, but none of that matters, just ratings.

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    5. Re:Sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I personally don't like King of the Hill, but I have several friends who live in the south and swear that it's hilarious if you have the right social context.

    6. Re:Sigh... by rbullo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So don't complain to me, e-mail the writer of the New Constitution.

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    7. Re:Sigh... by kannibal_klown · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Agreed, but they didn't give Futurama a change. After the first season, it kept being pre-empted by NFL games. After a while, even I stopped trying to watch it because instead there would be a post-game interview or something. When a station does something like that, there's no way a show can get good ratings. Because it's either not on when it's supposed to be, or people give up trying to watch it.

    8. Re:Sigh... by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Friends is ending but hey Joey is the spin-off!

    9. Re:Sigh... by CaptnMArk · · Score: 1

      Do you want Star trek voyager or Enterprise to happen to Futurama?

      I think not.

    10. Re:Sigh... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Friends?

      In the words of the manager of Ultimate Robot Fighting: "It's pure lowest common denominator". Friends sells. I've seen the DVDs with Friends episodes piled high, and people were snapping them up. This in a country where you'll be hard-pressed to find episodes of any other series on DVD.

      Futurama's a brilliant show but I can see that it has limited appeal... just like most quality stuff.

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    11. Re:Sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      umm just what the hell is "insightful" about the parent? this person just echoes what many others have been saying, expressing an opinion...no insight
      in sight.

    12. Re:Sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yeah, just like you can't find Babylon 5, Futurama, Family Guy, The Simpsons for sale at the local Best Buy.

      Oh. Wait. You can. Strawberry's has them around here too.

      I guess you're just full of shit.

    13. Re:Sigh... by Thing+1 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      king of the hill is a quality show.

      I second that, and am constantly amazed that Mike Judge (creator of Beavis and Butthead) managed to make such a good family-oriented show, which several times has brought a tear to my eye. Very well-written, although obviously catering to a different audience. Not always funny (but Dale is hilarious), but very touching.

      Heh, heh. He said "touching."

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    14. Re:Sigh... by zakharin · · Score: 1

      Actually, I would because both have many quality episodes, most of which would never have been written had the shows been canceled in the first season.

    15. Re:Sigh... by Kenshin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not always "out in the open" funny. Part of the comedy of the show is knowing the charcaters' attitudes and reactions to things.

      One of the funniest moments of the show was when Buckley broke up with Luanne. Hank was tired of listening to her, and gave her the advice that "sometimes it's just better to bottle up your emotions instead of letting them out".

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    16. Re:Sigh... by radish · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just the kind of argument you expect from someone who is obviously completely controlled by the secret, all-knowing, worldwide computer networks known as "The Beast"...

      sssh - don't tell anyone....

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    17. Re:Sigh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      king of the hill is not a comedy

      You got that right.

    18. Re:Sigh... by tlindner · · Score: 1

      > Anyone from the area will tell you that king
      > of the hill is not a comedy, its a documentary.

      But can't it be both?

      Doh, not another Family Guy reference!

    19. Re:Sigh... by Sri+Lumpa · · Score: 1


      I've got mixed feeling about KotH, the character's voices tend to annoy me to hell as do the redneckinessin general but most of the few episodes I saw were good ones despite all the things that annoyed me about it.

      So I don't like it because of the form but I must say I respect it because it seems to have some good writing (from what I saw).

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    20. Re:Sigh... by innosent · · Score: 1

      Yeah, of course, to me, the best part of King of the Hill is the constant Mega-Lo- (Wal-)Mart running joke, or Dale's paranoia. Of course, it probably wouldn't be funny on it's own, but for right now, it's damn funny, until you realize that most of it's actually true, then it's just sad.

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  18. Seasons DVDs ? by camilita · · Score: 1

    I tried searching for the full seasons on DVD, but I could only find volumes of episodes, Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 (not yet released).

    1. Re:Seasons DVDs ? by user32.ExitWindowsEx · · Score: 1

      My "Vol. 1" set says it's supposedly the first 13 episodes on 3 DVDs....maybe the "Volume" moniker is just a naming thing.

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    2. Re:Seasons DVDs ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      season 2 out Tues., others in the future. Google for tv shows on dvd (I can't remember the exact site name) and you'll come across a site that keeps track of tv eps coming to dvd. They might have rel. dates for the other two(?) seasons.

    3. Re:Seasons DVDs ? by thdexter · · Score: 2, Informative

      They're called "volumes" instead of "seasons" because Volume 1 has all of Season 1 and the first four episodes of Season Two. Volume 2, I believe, has all the rest of Season Two. Season 1 was only twelve episodes, is why they did that.

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    4. Re:Seasons DVDs ? by Psykechan · · Score: 1

      The DVD sets are put out in production seasons rather than airing seasons. There are only 4 production seasons versus the 5 airing seasons due to many episodes being missed because of sports overrun making enough to create another whole season.

      They are also being shown out of order... but what show isn't these days.

  19. Indeed a sad, sad day. by rvcrazy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately, this was my first thought when I awoke this morning. I suppose we can all only be thankful that Fox now has more room in their schedule for "reality" shows, When Car Chasing High-Speed Animals are Attacked by Couples Married by America, and some other nonsense about objects removed from people in emergency rooms.

    I truly am disgusted with television, and really only look forward to The Simpsons and B5 reruns. I can't see anything coming up that remotely appeals to me.

    1. Re:Indeed a sad, sad day. by mprinkey · · Score: 1

      There is still good TV around, but it costs...HBO & Showtime. Dead Like Me on Showtime is my new personal favorite.

    2. Re:Indeed a sad, sad day. by leviramsey · · Score: 1

      There's BBC America also. Coupling and Manchild are both exceptionally excellent.

    3. Re:Indeed a sad, sad day. by thinkninja · · Score: 1

      "So there, we have figured out, go back to bed America, your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed America, you government is in control again. Here, here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up! Go back to bed America, here's American Gladiators. Here's 56 channels of it. Watch these pituitary retards bang their fuckin skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go America, you are free, to do as we tell you, you are free, to do as we tell you."

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    4. Re:Indeed a sad, sad day. by minusthink · · Score: 1

      i don't like either of those, but I really haven't given Coupling a fair shot. I've only watch it once, while sick and not paying too much attention.

      But I do agree with you, BBC america is fantastic... sometimes.

      I love The Office and Father Ted. But 9 times out of 10 when I tune in, they are showing What Not To Wear or those home design shows.

      When I first got the channel, 2 years ago, BBCA had a night for Monty Python Flying Circus and Fawlty Towers reruns and I was in my glory. But no more.

      NO SALE.

      R.I.P. Futurama

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    5. Re:Indeed a sad, sad day. by isoteareth · · Score: 1

      Then cancel you cable. You'll be better off.

    6. Re:Indeed a sad, sad day. by xaaronx · · Score: 1

      Manchild bores me.

      But Coupling . . .

      Coupling fucking rocks!!! NBC's gonna fsck up the US version, though. The one commercial I've seen, with Patrick's take on relationships, totally put me off. It was a straight ripoff of a scene from, I believe, the UK pilot delivered by actors who didn't seem to really fit the roles and whose delivery took all the humor out of one of those laugh-out-loud scenes Coupling produces more regularly than any other show I've seen.

      The casting is what I'm really worried about. Steve could be played by almost any decent actor, so no worries there. Patrick just needs a sufficiently macho guy, though the guy in the commercial might not cut it. I'm not sure anyone else can pull off Jeff, though. The character is made by the performance more than the lines. On the female side, Sally should be fairly easy. Jane moderately so. Susan will be tough though. The chick who plays her just has so much force of personality and the character grew to need all of it.

      If nothing else, it will probably be a better translation that British Men Behaving Badly.

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  20. Fox network is a joke by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At least now they'll have thirty more minutes available for more lowbrow, idiot level programming... Good thing. People might start to think that the networks were actually trying to provide good entertainment in exchange for all of that publicly owned broadcast spectrum they've been granted exclusive use of for the last 75 or so years. Maybe it is time to take that spectrum back?

    After all, those licenses were granted to provide a broadcast service "in the public interest", but when was the last time you saw something on TV that wasn't crap? You could even argue that the majority of commercial broadcasting actually makes people more stupid. That can't POSSIBLY be in the public's interest.

    PBS has some good stuff, maybe History Channel, but what else? Along the same lines, when was the last time you heard a radio program (besides NPR) that wasn't the same recycled viagra jokes/top 40 playlist as every other station on the dial? Granted, Clear Channel is making plenty of money, but what about the public, the people the broadcaster's were entrusted to serve?

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    1. Re:Fox network is a joke by bnenning · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Granted, Clear Channel is making plenty of money, but what about the public, the people the broadcaster's were entrusted to serve?


      Clear Channel, Fox, et al are making money precisely because the public voluntarily chooses their programming.

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    2. Re:Fox network is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " At least now they'll have thirty more minutes available for more lowbrow, idiot level programming"

      er.... isn't exactly what Futurama is? A cartoon? It's hardly the everning news. Anyway, each Futurama episode is only twenty five minutes.

    3. Re:Fox network is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Terrorist.

    4. Re:Fox network is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Clear Channel, Fox, et al are making money precisely because the public voluntarily chooses their programming.

      Oh I'm sorry perhaps you could suggest some alternative programming to voluntarily watch/listen to. What's that? All you can suggest is AM radio and PBS, give me a break. Television / radio are the mosta powerful mediums on earth and I just don't think a massive boycott is anyway to improve quality.

    5. Re:Fox network is a joke by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 1
      Clear Channel, Fox, et al are making money precisely because the public voluntarily chooses their programming.

      Sorry, but that is irrelevant. The FCC has ruled time and again that "People are watching/listening" is not a valid excuse for broadcasting things that aren't in the public's interest. Traditionally, the FCC has interpreted this as meaning "the public's BEST interest", while most broadcasters these days define it as "What catches the public's eye/interest."

      A good example of this conflict of semantics was the On-TV debacle in Chicago during the 80's. On-TV was a pay-television service that illegally scrambled the signal of a commercial UHF tv station to provide a commercial free movie channel. The company's argument was that their 50,000 subscribers proved there was public interest in pay-tv. The FCC said, "Uh, no, it has to actually be in the public's interest, not just your own financial interest" and yanked their license. This is the last time the FCC used license forfeiture that I know about... If you know of other, more recent examples please share with the class.
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    6. Re:Fox network is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Twenty one minutes.

    7. Re:Fox network is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're an idiot. The parent raises a wonerful point, and you offer completely irrelevant "evidence" to support your completely invalid point. A network that produces and broadcasts a distillation of sewage is not the same as a subcriber service infringing upon the signal of a licensed broadcaster. How you think the two cases are even remotely similar is beyond me. I suspect you're a troll, by the glazed expression in your eyes, the bead of drool on your chin, and your altogether mongoloid appearance. Were you on a show called Life Goes On, Corky?

    8. Re:Fox network is a joke by istewart · · Score: 1

      What other programming do they have to choose when the broadcasters are afraid to take risks and would rather stay with sappy soap operas, sports, and "reality TV" that have all proven to be popular? Networks don't like risk-taking because it doesn't have an ensured, built-in profit margin. When something good comes along, they'll milk it for all it's worth. Once again, see the endless deluge of reality crap, "Friends" ripoffs, and for more tragic examples, the recent declines of Star Trek and the Simpsons.

      On the other hand, I know nothing about producing television, and seemingly even less about herding sheep.

    9. Re:Fox network is a joke by BDyess · · Score: 1

      Clear Channel, Fox, et al are making money precisely because the public voluntarily chooses their programming.

      They're making money because their expenses are lower than their income. Reality shows cost almost nothing to make, yet generate positive revenues. Futurama generates good revenues, but is expensive, especially with Groening's excellent contract.

      Given a choice between two shows, both generating near equal net revenue, a network will always choose the cheaper of the two. Why? Because the risk is less, should the show bomb.

      It's not the best shows, or even the most watched, that stay on television. It's those with the greatest profit and least risk.

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    10. Re:Fox network is a joke by kylner · · Score: 1

      Surprisingly enough, here in the Orlando, FL market ClearChannel runs a very successful talk radio station called RealRadio 104.1. It's not the same top 40 wacky morning DJ crap that you hear day in and day out. The hosts are mostly liberal to moderate and the topics are nearly always interesting. From what I understand the line-up is also available now via XM Radio on channel 15x something. Not sure exactly which station since I don't have an XM receiver.

    11. Re:Fox network is a joke by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1
      Clear Channel, Fox, et al are making money precisely because the public voluntarily chooses their programming.

      Yes, and every year they scratch their heads trying to find an explanation for their rapidly reduced viewer audience. And they point their finger at video games and the Internet (rather than their innocuous drivel they call TV programming). Watch the media conglomerates work to make the Internet a valueless wasteland, much like current TV programming. Perhaps then, you'll start caring about the abuses of a media monopoly. But more likely you'll depend on Fox News to tell you the Internet is bad, watch more TV.

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    12. Re:Fox network is a joke by Ominous+Coward · · Score: 1

      An animated show does not have to be low-brow at all.

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  21. Re:LOOK, DUMBFUCK by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 4, Funny

    That still doesn't make it justice.

    How about something like "from the Morbo demands more episodes dept?"

    That quote should even be obvious to you w/ your learning disability, Fry.

  22. What a Shame by alset_tech · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think Futurama ever got a fair chance from viewers, who expected "the Simpsons in the future." It's too bad that the series wasn't able to fun for fourteen years, like it's counterpart. I would have watched them all. BTW - was anyone else repeatedly dismayed to see the show preempted by football ever season?

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    1. Re:What a Shame by Eric+Smith · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm one of those people that expected "the Simpsons in the future", and IMNSO that's exactly what it's been, and I've been happy with it.

    2. Re:What a Shame by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Well which provides more ad revenue for Fox, some cartoon or football?

    3. Re:What a Shame by alset_tech · · Score: 1

      How do you think it feels to spend hours upon hours laboring over a show that never airs? I have seen too many decent shows bumped for sports. There ought to be sports channels. I'm tired of watching the last four minutes of a game drawn out for an hour as creative television is given a second-class ticket.

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    4. Re:What a Shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think its more accurate to say, Futurama never got a fair chance from FOX, who expected "the Simpsons in the future."

    5. Re:What a Shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      There are sports channels. Get cable. (Or don't, if you don't want to watch sports.)

      Or have you ever thought that just maybe sports does better than the crap people "spent hours upon hours laboring over"? Good shows do well (Simpsons, Who Wants to be a Millionaire?, Friends, Sienfeld), until their ratings fall, when they are replaced with other new good shows. Poor shows are given a chance (Futurama was given five years, which is way above and beyond what a poor show should be given), and then if they fail are dropped.

      Maybe you should just watch another channel, or stop complaining when not enough other people are willing to watch something you individually like. Or would you like to pay a "TV tax" to allow people to put out shows that no one wants to watch othen than the "intellectual elite" (otherwise known as "people with no friends")? Doesn't sound fair to me. If you produce crap, then don't be expected when no one buys it. I hear this argument all the time about MP3s - it applies to TV too...

    6. Re:What a Shame by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      I used to work for a multi-national software development company, don't talk to me about laboring for hours on work no one sees.

  23. One thing I must know... by phillymjs · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...will the DVDs of later season Futurama episodes have the last 20 minutes of a football game, followed by the last 10 minutes of the episode?

  24. Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The site is not really down. THey just slipped in a blank index.html file.

    You can view the full site here...
    http://www.gotfuturama.com/index.shtml

  25. Like it matters. by Luckie1 · · Score: 1

    Knowing FOX, they'll replace it with a reality TV show where they strand about 40 70 yr old women on island or something.

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    1. Re:Like it matters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually Fox will replace Futurama with Banzai, a stupid pseudo-chinese sports-game-show. It's really a mess :-/

    2. Re:Like it matters. by UserGoogol · · Score: 1

      Psuedo-Japanese, you idiot.

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  26. Obligatory text of episode blurb by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 3, Informative
    Fry, in an effort to win Leela's love, makes a deal with the Robot Devil to become a gifted musician. He has tried to take Holophoner lessons, but his teacher claimed he had "stupid fingers." Bender realizes that the Robot Devil is the only one to help. Fry makes a deal only to regret it immediately as it comes with a hefty price.

    Taken from the site itself..

    By the way, this last and final episode ties in neatly w/ this episode

  27. alt.binaries.multimedia.futurama by trentfoley · · Score: 1, Informative

    get it now.

    1. Re:alt.binaries.multimedia.futurama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can someone explain how the parent post is Offtopic?

    2. Re:alt.binaries.multimedia.futurama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moderators with too much sand in their vagina. It makes them awefully cranky

  28. Dead! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Filthy Critic is dead!

    1. Re:Dead! by V.P. · · Score: 1
      Shit... You're right. The message on his site says:
      The Filthy Critic was killed in a bicycle collision late Thursday night. He died the way he lived--wobbling aimlessly in the slow lane.

      I don't know what to say. I really liked that guy. The funniest, most accurate, no-bullshit movie reviews and general commentary.... I'll miss them a lot. My condolences to Mrs. Filthy.

  29. Well.... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    Thanks to Kazaa-lite and BT, I'll still be able to get my BT fix. I wish Fox provided a reasonably priced, high-quality, quickly-downloadable version of shows they take off the air, like Futurama. Oh well, back to the P2P hunt.

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    1. Re:Well.... by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

      "I wish Fox provided a reasonably priced, high-quality, quickly-downloadable version of shows they take off the air, like Futurama."

      So, in addition to not making money, they can lose money? Sounds like a business plan! Not that I would actually mind it.

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    2. Re:Well.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm, I think he was implying that he would be willing to pay a bit to get that.. Of course OMG, IF WE LET HIM DL IT HE MIGHT GIVE IT TO HIS FRIENDS!!

    3. Re:Well.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, shit. Having reread the parent, he wasn't even implying it.

    4. Re:Well.... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      I do wish they provided that solution as I would purchase the files if they were available for download. I know they have DVDs coming out, but I don't really like to keep a large collection of discs, and I know I could rip to my computer, and compress to DivX myself but its a pain in the ass.

      Read more carefully next time.

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  30. see the message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Pay attention to the message at the very beginning of the show. It reads "See You On Another Channel".

    1. Re:see the message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're talking about syndication. The production group and cast that made Futurama have long since moved on to other things.

      Its dead, Jim.

  31. no restrictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    i loved that futurama had no restrictions. each show could be about anything, and could be as absurd as they wanted it to be. also, there was one major difference to the simpsons for instance: the show is back to normal not at the end of the episode, but at the beginning of the next. they don't have to bend the story to fit that restriction.

  32. Futurama - The Game by Sim9 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is a futurama game in the works titled Futurama- The Game. Release date is Aug 15, and so far impressions have been quite favorable.

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle- ur l/index=videogames&field-keywords=futurama%20the%2 0game&search-type=ss&bq=1/102-3968539-6524 956

    1. Re:Futurama - The Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They cancelled the Gamecube version.

  33. DVDs + ANNOUNCEMENT FIREFLY DVDs IN DEC!!! by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    I too downloaded every episode of simpsons, futurama, family guy and other shows. But now that they're all coming out on dvd in better quality than most downloaded eps, i'm buying thoses. I think all of futurama should be out by next year and the rest of family guy will be out next month i think. Also to anyone whos interested, the complete run of Firefly will be out on DVD Dec 9th, loads of extras and the 3 episodes that never aired in the US. There are also talks of a movie.

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  34. I've Got My DVD's by Zoltarpanaflex · · Score: 1

    another taste of sweet sweet candy I've got Volume One - Volume Two is released on 8/15 - already pre-ordered. Why try and decipher which channel is going to carry Futurama this month. It was Fox-13, then Cartoon Network Adult Swim - now it's TBS? Diced to ribbons and idiotic.

    1. Re:I've Got My DVD's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adult Swim on cartoon network still carries it, but they periodicly shuffle up which shows are on. Right now they are showing the very funny and also senselessly cancled show "Home Movies" in it's place, but in a couple months it will be back in circulation.

  35. AM RADIO by DarkSarin · · Score: 1

    I am about to reveal my political affiliations, but personally I think that some of the best RADIO programming is talk radio on the AM side. FM side, I usually listen to NPR.

    Now, on topic: FUTURAMA ROCKS! I hope someone else picks it up.

    We should all write FOX and tell them to keep it. If I were an exec and between 600,000 and 1,000,000 (or heck, 100,000) people all called/wrote/emailed that they wanted a show, I'd keep it! (based on the premise that each call/mail represents the opinion of at least 100 other people).

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    1. Re:AM RADIO by fafaforza · · Score: 1

      Futurama was canceled well over a year ago. They've been showing episodes that were finished before the show was actually canned. Futurama is old news at FOX. I doubt they'd care about a petition.

  36. See you on some other channel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Watch it tonight and then you will understand, assuming your local station doesn't throw up a logo in the wrong place.

    As for me? "Cancel this season pass"...

  37. 'Tagline' from episode intro by RonnyJ · · Score: 1

    'See you on some other channel'

    1. Re:'Tagline' from episode intro by UrGeek · · Score: 1

      Methinks these feisty crew be in talks with other outlets in order to continue continuing with the continuity!

      RIGHT ON!!

  38. Or the kegelcizer? by normal_guy · · Score: 1

    I particularly loved the kegelcizer machine in 'Why must I be a crustacean in love'. Shot of a grunting woman's face and some weights shooting up in the background for a few reps. That entire episode, really. The scuttling Zoidberg is always a hoot.

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  39. Who here misses... by FosterKanig · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..the Tracy Morgan show. Even at the age of, I'm guessing 8, he has been providing entertainment with his comedy show. Good for you, Tracy Morgan, good for you!!

  40. Futurama HTTP headers by RonnyJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot's server admins seem to like Futurama quite a lot, the server sends out an extra HTTP header with each query. e.g. X-Bender: Well I don't have anything else planned for today, let's get drunk! X-Fry: They're great! They're like sex except I'm having them.

    1. Re:Futurama HTTP headers by binarytoaster · · Score: 1

      I actually bothered to pop open Proxomitron's log window to check this... he's right! Images.slashdot doesn't do it, but the page server does:
      X-Bender: Nothing like a warm fire and a super-soaker of fine cognac.
      X-Bender: Lick my frozen, metal ass!

  41. New? by rockmanac · · Score: 1

    I read the description.. This one isn't a new episode, I saw it during the last season. Could it have been that your Fox station didn't show it because of football?

    AC

    1. Re:New? by mrbrown1602 · · Score: 1

      Are you sure you aren't thinking of 'Hell Is Other Robots' ?

    2. Re:New? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is a new episode, infact it is the last episode of the 4th production run, 4ACV18.

      however Fry has tried to win Leela's heart in many episodes. In time keeps on slipping fry arranges stars in a pattern to express is love for leela, but because of time skips Leela thinks she was tricked into marrying Fry.

      Also in Parasites Lost Fry plays the Holophoner and does win over Leela, but in that case it was because he ate an egg salad sandwhich which contained worms which were able to increase Fry's intelligence.

      So it was probably one of those two episodes you were thinking of which both happened in season 3.

    3. Re:New? by rockmanac · · Score: 1

      maybe, but the description sounded familiar.

      I didn't get to see it last night, though, as I was at a concert.

      AC

  42. Cut'n'Paste from the site by AchmedHabib · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's an interesting part from the site:
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    Looks like Futurama executive producer David Cohen has been busy giving interviews the last few days. In this IGN front page linked article, he talks about what he did in the meantime, what he wants to do in the future (including a movie project with Ken Keeler - the writer of tomorrow's final episode), the long-shot hope for continuing Futurama with Cartoon Network, the slightly better Futurama movie possibility, the upcoming Season 2 DVDs, the Futurama Video Game and ... this very site A short excerpt:

    IGN DVD: Has there been grassroots fan efforts to save the show like there was with other series?

    Cohen: There have been huge efforts but the network hasn't been too interested. There is an online petition that as far as I know is the largest petition in TV history to save a show, and there's a Web site run by fans called GotFuturama.com. That site ended up being the central location for fans to go to, and I admit that I go there to see an air date or something I've forgotten. They have a link to it (the petition). I think at one point they delivered a hardcopy to Fox executives which must have been the size of five Manhattan phone books. (laughs) And before questions flare up, I think he got the thing about the Game Cube Futurama video game wrong. All signs still point towards no go there.

  43. I never got this by X-Nc · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I guess it's just me but I never found Futurama or the Simpsons or any of the like to be even slightly entertaining. Same with South Park. It's not just the cartoons, just about everything on TV lately sucks. I know that TV got the nickname "Boob Tube" not for it's intellecual content. But why must the intellegance level go down year after year?

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    1. Re:I never got this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So then, depsite your apathy you felt the need to post upon this board in an obvious attempt to troll?

      C'mon surely you can find something else to do on a sunday afternoon, why not read a book or go outside or whatever it is you superior people do with your free time?

  44. A Testament to Groening by KU_Fletch · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's going to be sad that I won't have Futurama on my Sunday nights any more (at least I won't have to suffer through King of the Hill afterwards). But thank god for Matt Groening and his DVD producion staff at Fox. The Simpsons and Futurama DVDs are some of he best released and reflective of how much Groening likes his fans.

    If you look at other TV show DVD sets, Groening's collections can beat just about anyone out there. They are reasonabley priced (around 30-40 bucks at most stores) compared to some TV shows selling their sets at $80-100. The production quality is great, so you don't have to suffer through bad transfers (although there was an initial pressing problem with Simpsons S1 that was fixed). And probably the reason I love them the most is the fact that Groening and his boys sit down and do commentaries on all their episodes. They know that you can watch all the episodes and get a laugh out of them, but the thing that keeps you coming baack is hearing them shred their episodes to pieces. We've all seen Simpsons and Futurama on synidcation long enough to know a lot of the old episodes by heart, but the commentaries are pure genious. So it might be sad that the TV shows are leaving us, but props to Matt for a dedication to kick ass DVDs

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    1. Re:A Testament to Groening by evilviper · · Score: 2, Informative
      They are reasonabley priced (around 30-40 bucks at most stores) compared to some TV shows selling their sets at $80-100.

      In addition, they don't try to squeeze every last dollar out of you they can...

      If you look at the Farscape DVDs, they only have 2 episodes per DVD, which is really *^&%$#@!-up in my opinion. There's absolutely no reason for that, other than trying to squeeze even more money out of people.
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    2. Re:A Testament to Groening by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      well, some Japanese Anime DVD Region2(Japan that is. Not England) discs are 2 eps per disc, but they feature insanely high quality video and audio tracks.

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    3. Re:A Testament to Groening by evilviper · · Score: 1

      I can't imagine why... Animation needs far lower bitrates than actual video, so what is the point of having huge bitrates?

      Audio, it's normally over 200KB AC3 already, so I can't see much improvement being needed.

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    4. Re:A Testament to Groening by Beek · · Score: 1

      And they've taken away a large portion of your money.

    5. Re:A Testament to Groening by Yosho · · Score: 1

      On the contrary -- since animation typically features sharper contrasts between objects and sharp changes in colors, you have to encode it at a higher bitrate in order for the artifacts to be less noticable than in live action video. With live action stuff, you typically have many, many different similar shades near each other, complete with natural shadows and blurring from imperfect focus, so artifacts blend in better.

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    6. Re:A Testament to Groening by evilviper · · Score: 1
      Not true really. The contrast doesn't really have a negative effect at all. Animation is easier to compress because of the lack of subtle changes...

      It's best if an image slides around the picture, because the codec can just map where it is moving to. With live action, it also has to do things like throw in aditional information about subtle changes in color, possibly due to shadows, and even more significant, due to changes in focus.

      Add to that the fact that real objects have thousands of different colors every inch, but animation will typically have something like 16 different colors on screen at any one time, and maybe a max of 100 different colors total.

      Believe me, I speak from a great deal of personal experience... Even high-motion animation can typically be compressed with a bitrate around half what is required for live action.

      Similarly, it's usually true of sound as well. In live action, you have to deal with echos, the sounds of gravel, wind, etc. With animation, there are no quiet sounds at all, what is there is very clear, and there is less information because there is typically only a couple sounds at a time, rather than a couple voices, plus background noise, plus wind effects, plus background conversations, plus abinent noise, etc.

      and blurring from imperfect focus

      That isn't a benefit actually... The change in focus makes it much harder to compress the video down. If it was constantly blurry (rather than moving in and out of focus), and there was absolutely no change in the colors (the slightest change in lighting, shadows, or camera movement completely changes colors) even then it would be harder to compress because it is made up of a much greater array of colors than animation.
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    7. Re:A Testament to Groening by Ondo · · Score: 1

      They are reasonabley priced (around 30-40 bucks at most stores) compared to some TV shows selling their sets at $80-100.

      They're cheaper because the episodes are half the length of most shows, and there are fewer of them in a season. (13 in season 1, 19 in season 2, compared to 22 in most shows.)

    8. Re:A Testament to Groening by KU_Fletch · · Score: 1

      They're cheaper because the episodes are half the length of most shows, and there are fewer of them in a season

      Well compare the Groening DVDs to most of the ones from HBO. Most hourlong HBO seasons last far below the 20-24 episode average of most shows. Yet these sets that contian somtimes only 13 or 14 episodes get priced at 80 dollars or more. Or better yet, compare this to shows like Lexx, Farscape, Cowboy Beebop, Trigun (hell, most Anime), Monty Python, etc. that have been using the 2-3 episode per DVD model. To buy entire seasons of some of these shows costs upwards of 150-200 bucks. Even then, most of these DVDs lack commentary and extras.

      Groening puts everything together. Tosses in tons of commentaries and extras (early 90s simpsons kiche is great to laugh at in retrospect). I'm sure they could count the production costs up and sell them at 60 or 70 a pop, but they choose to keep them low to make sure that everyone who wants them can get their hands on them without feeling ripped off.

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    9. Re:A Testament to Groening by KlausBreuer · · Score: 1

      Well, the DVDs in PAL format stink. Seems that they were simply not capable of getting rid of the combing effect, and thus all movement looks terrible.

      Meaning, after buying the DVDs (and, yes, I did), you have to turn them into DivX, running them through a bunch of filters. Looks much better afterwards! If I can do this on my little PC, what's wrong with the producers?

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    10. Re:A Testament to Groening by Ondo · · Score: 1

      Well compare the Groening DVDs to most of the ones from HBO. Most hourlong HBO seasons last far below the 20-24 episode average of most shows. Yet these sets that contian somtimes only 13 or 14 episodes get priced at 80 dollars or more.

      Yes, and HBO is more expansive than Fox as well. Also, note that since HBO doesn't have commercials, the shows are actually an hour long, not 42 minutes.

      Anime is more expensive because the cost of dubbing and subbing is generally only recouped through DVD sales. Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, and Monty Python all have box sets, they're not using the 2-3 episode per DVD model.

      A fair comparison is Futurama with other shows recently shown on broadcast television. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Friends, Dark Angel, Alias, 24, Smallville, the Family Guy, King of the Hill, all are reasonably priced.

      The Futurama DVDs price is nice, but hardly unusual.

  45. Interview with X by mrpuffypants · · Score: 1

    There's an interview with Futurama Exec. Producer David X. Cohen on IGN

    Here's the story

  46. Preair rips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Rips of pre-air feeds of this episode in mpg and xvid format have been out for more than a day. The episode was funny as hell, such a pity that this show has to end while Simpsons (which for the most part is desperately unfunny now) was renewed for another two seasons...

  47. Last episode, or last episode of the season ? by keith_nt4 · · Score: 1
    I'm a little confused:
    ...price in the "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings" episode and Season Finale of FUTURAMA Sunday, August 10 (7:00-7:30 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (FUT-418) (TV-PG)

    Does that not say season finale? What am I missing? From http://www.fox.com/schedule/showinfo/futurama/fut_ 418.htm

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    1. Re:Last episode, or last episode of the season ? by aonifer · · Score: 1

      Technically, a series finale would also be a season finale.

  48. Futurama Drinking Game by AGSHender · · Score: 2, Funny

    If anyone would like to use the opportunity tonight on the last episode to drink and salute the years Futurama has been on, I have a Futurama drinking game on my website that's handy for when you want to drink until you reboot.

    /shameless plug

  49. A victim of Fox by SoVi3t · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unfortunately, like Family Guy, Futurama fell victim of Fox's scheduling stupidity. Family Guy was put up against Fraiser, and Futurama got bumped around, cancelled by football, and so much worse. Both of them ultimately lost many viewers due to these blunders. If Fox was intelligent, they would have put it on right after The Simpsons, and moved Malcolm in the Middle to some other day. That way fans of the Simpsons could watch Futurama afterwards, in a sort of Groening Hour of Power.

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    1. Re:A victim of Fox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      someone mod this to 5!!

      scheduling is EVERYTHING.

      this is how Scifi killed Farscape when it fell out of favor with the bigwigs there...

    2. Re:A victim of Fox by SoVi3t · · Score: 1

      It does deserve a mod rating of 5 :)

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  50. get it: by Sarin · · Score: 1

    I got it from usenet yesterday from alt.binaries.multimedia.futurama

  51. My favourite quote has to be... by JonathanF · · Score: 1

    "Kittens give Morbo gas!"

    That line is delivered so well (I would say casually, but Morbo isn't exactly casual) that every time I hear it I can't help but laugh. It shows that all the writing that made the Simpsons (at least in the early years) carried over to Futurama.

    Here's hoping that the Simpsons can retire gracefully when their contract is up, and that Futurama shall rise again!

  52. Bittorent? by Libor+Vanek · · Score: 1

    OK - who'll post Bittorent link first? :)

    1. Re:Bittorent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop being lazy, and find it...

      Name: futurama.s05e16.the.devils.hands.are.idle.playthin gs-ftv.[BT].mpg
      Size: 224.73 MB
      Seeders: 1
      Leechers: 179
      Completed: 1976
      Transferred: 433.66 GB
      Average Progress: 35%

    2. Re:Bittorent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Of course its not too hard to find, but you need a good tracker...

      http://www.digitaldistractions.org/torrents/Futura ma%20-%20S05E16%20-%20The%20Devils%20Hands%20Are%2 0Idle%20Playthings.torrent Watch out for the spaces

    3. Re:Bittorent? by Bob-o-Matic! · · Score: 1

      Thanks! suprnova.org is down, and I don't have a good list of torrent sources (BT n00b here)

  53. Sky One do this in the UK by rklrkl · · Score: 2, Interesting
    In the UK, Simpsons and Futurama episodes are aired first on Sky One at 6.30pm and 7.00pm respectively on Sunday nights - we already have a "Groening Hour of Power" :-) Plus the DVD box sets of The Simpsons and Futurama are released up to 6 months before the US (although twice the price of the US versions, so I order the US ones instead). Oh, plus the Futurama game came out several months before the US.

    Now if only Sky One didn't put "Sky One Brand New" in the top left *and* a red blob in the top right (don't ask - you're supposed to press the red button on your remote, but it doesn't go to a Simpsons/Futurama section of their interactive digital TV stuff, but just to the main menu !). Luckily, the blob can be removed by a rapid press of the Red button followed by Backup, but you can't get rid of the 2 line logo in the top left :-(

    I also hate that they shove in 3 repeats of The Simpsons on consecutive Sundays and then a brand new episode, then 2 repeats, then a new episode, then a repeat, then 3 new episodes and so on - a total guess as to whether the episode will be new or not (so I just record them all and check them out later).

    1. Re:Sky One do this in the UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw a recent (as in late June) list of the viewing figures for Sky One. One episode of Futurama was the only non-Simpsons programme to break into the top ten.

  54. Alternate Market by Seek_1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ok, a couple of people have stated that the reason Family Guy got cancelled was because no advertisers wanted it. And obviously from reading this thread and from the petition site, there are hundreds of thousands of Futurama fans out there.

    Do you think it would be realistic for them to continue making the series directly to DVD?

    Think about it. I know that I along with most of my friends either own, or are planning to own all of the Family Guy/Futurama DVDs in addition to having downloaded copies of the shows beforehand (and they say piracy is killing the industry.. pfft!).

    I'd be more than happy to keep buying (yes, that's right.. spending actual $$$) seasons of Futurama and Family Guy if they went straight to DVD.

    Actually, I've probably only managed to catch Family Guy being aired maybe half a dozen times, and Futurama not much more than that. I think that for shows (like these) where there is great demand, but not really a spot in the lineup, marketting straight to DVD should (if they were smart) be a valid alternative.

    1. Re:Alternate Market by delajt · · Score: 0

      I've been downloading Futurama since the article in Wired magazine years ago (did it have Bender on the cover?), the first 3 seasons in crappy RM format. I've only seen one episode on (dutch) TV, by pure chance. No idea when it ever aired. Needless to say, I would buy all boxen when they are available over here!

    2. Re:Alternate Market by doormat · · Score: 1

      Surprisingly, I've noticed that Family Guy Vol 1 its a top DVD seller, or at least thats what Yahoo Shopping says. When I went to buy it the day it came out, the best buy was nearly out, the guy who was stocking the shelf said he'd never seen a TV series sell so well.

      For direct-to-DVD to work, they'd probably raise the prices to $50 (say if they sold 250K copies, thats 12.5M USD), but still its ever so slightly fesiable.

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    3. Re:Alternate Market by Repugnant_Shit · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't see why not. Apparently it's a money maker in Japan.

    4. Re:Alternate Market by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Needless to say, I would buy all boxen(sic! or in other words: fuck you, fucking cunt! The word is boxes.) when they are available over here!

      Then I would suggest, that you put your money where your mouth is. The first three seasons are out in Europe, and season four is coming in September. Head over to amazon or play.com and buy them.

  55. Re:YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOOSE BUT KARMA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and you're a gay nig.

  56. Futurama is BETTER than Simpsons by w1z7ard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Reasons why:

    (1) The Why of Fry - Fry is the most important person in the universe. He was actually sent to the future on purpose to stop the evil brains from destroying the universe after they know everything about it. How sweet is that?

    (2) The episode where the professor creates a mutant superhuman basketball team to compete with the space traveling globe trotters. Because he created the superhuman team by accelerating time with some chronotron, time slips started occuring during the viewing of the cartoon.

    (3) Captain Brannagon, Bender, Zoidberg?

    (4) The giant squid everyone ignores at the dinner table...oh wait, thats Family Guy.

    Anyway, Futurama is an excellent blend of cartoon scifi / boozing / geek jokes. It has a much bigger world than The Simpsons (any time period, really, and the whole space that is the universe), and Matt Groening definitely wants to write for it, and has fresh ideas for episodes. Also, what about the star trek Futurama episode? I hate star trek, and it was still hilarious.

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  57. Pop culture ignorama please sign up. by finallyHasANickname · · Score: 1
    Ok. So I heard this news of the coming demise of Futurama. It seemed like just yesterday when I learned that Futurama was going to get started. Heck. The same goes for the show with the dim middle class stains-on-shirt guys in the backyard show. I read about these things in news magazines. I procrastinated watching them. Heck. I procrastinated watching the "X Files".

    I realized that I was a fan of, ahem, the guy when he drew up "Life in Hell" in the underground music magazines about 2/7 of a lifetime ago, give or take. Matt Groening! Yeah. Wow. At least I don't yet have Alzeimer's, but I wonder. Then he went mainstream with "The Simpsons", which I watched religiously (along with "...Next Generation" and "L.A. Law"). Then I just fell off the couch as in potato. I also got sick of the commercials (AM talk pinheads, FM hit music formulae, etc.), turned off the radio, and (almost) never got around to turning it back on.

    I learned a while back never to flatter myself by thinking I am unique and never to disparage myself by thinking I am weird. What I need to do is to find my pop-clueless peers. Who has not seen more than a minute per viewing of Friends? Who has missed all episodes of Futurama? Who had to use the Web to learn the meaning of J-Lo? Who learned what an Anna Nicole Smith was only weeks ago? I am not the only one. Can't be.

    Horror stories of this parent comment most welcome. How far under a rock have you lived, folks?

    1. Re:Pop culture ignorama please sign up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm constantly wondering who some people are talking about sometime -- the reason for which is that i do not own a television. Money went to making a solar powered catamaran instead.

  58. Morbo plug by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 1

    "All in all, this is one day Mittens the kitten won't soon forget."

    "Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed."

    "Blame rests with known human Professor Hubert Farnsworth and his tiny, inferior brain."

  59. as Bender would say... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    "FOX can bite my shiny metal ass!" *takes puff off cigar*

  60. Re:FUTURAMA SUCKS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh get a grip.

  61. Don't you mean Joey? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

  62. Death by Snu-Snu by boy_afraid · · Score: 1

    Oh whyyyyyyyyyy?!?!?!?! Fox is killing Futurama with Death by Snu-Snu!

    (Yeah, ohwwwww, Yeahhhhh, ohwwwwww)

  63. any #futurama chan's? by ONU+CS+Geek · · Score: 1

    Anyone know of some good irc rooms for Futurama Discussion? I remember sitting in an irc room during the superbowl with a group of other 'educated' folks discussing what was happening with the game.

    It'd be nice if there was something like that for Futurama as well...anyone know of one?

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  64. It's probably for the best by Professor+Chaos · · Score: 1

    Simpsons has been going on forever and we're starting to take it for granted (because the last few seasons before this one were totally horrible) at least this way itl stay on top forever. Maybe they'll do a movie or something. who knows.

    whenever they bring back a cancelled show it always ends up worse anyways. gargoyles was brought back as the goliath chronicles and the animation was hideous. star trek was brought back.. and who remembers those episodes!

    It also makes DVD collection easier when theres only 5 sets to collect.. and thatl mean Groening and the rest can get to work on pumping out the simpsons DVD's (ive pledged to purchase up to season 8)

    I shall leave you all with some great futurama quotes.

    Hermes: Baby needs a new pair of shoes
    Zoidberg: To hell with your spoiled baby! I need those shoes!

    Fry: Thats IT! You can only take my money for so long before you take it all and I say enough!

    Fry: Leela, Bender, we're going grave-robbing.
    Bender: I'll get my kit!

    Fry: I betcha Leela's holding out for a nice guy with one eye
    Bender: That'll take forever. What she oughta do is find a nice guy with two eyes and poke one out.
    Fry: Yeah, that'd be a timesaver

    Bender: Another classic science fiction series cancelled before its time (referring to star trek)

  65. Newspaper article with David X. Cohen interview: by orkysoft · · Score: 2, Informative

    (posting as a reply to my post to avoid it being drowned in the masses of replies to the main article)

    http://www.canoe.ca/ Television/aug8_future-sun.html

    "I actually forgot this week was our last episode. I scheduled something else -- a meeting of my math club," Cohen says on the phone from Los Angeles. "This group of TV writers, we're interested in math and we get together to talk about it. But I'm sure I'll be able to race home to watch it."
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  66. Re:Newspaper article with David X. Cohen interview by orkysoft · · Score: 1

    (I posted the parent post too soon, sorry.)

    I used this quote to indicate why Futurama has so many inside jokes that appeal to the Slashdot audience :-)

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  67. Demographics by Detritus · · Score: 1

    It's worse than that. It isn't just ratings, demographics are very important. A show can get cancelled even if it has good ratings. As far as advertisers and network executives are concerned, many viewers are irrelevant because they are too young, too old, too poor, or other factors that make the viewer undesirable.

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  68. What now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After Simpsons (the present) and Futurama (the future, duh!), will we get Pastorama from Matt?

    And then, if he mistakingly creates a story incompatible with The Simpsons and Futurama, will there be time shockwaves?

    Could we get alternative timeline Simpsons where Homer is Flanders and Flanders turns to be like Mr. Burns?

    Will Fox linuxize all its internal servers?

    Will my money last till the end of the month? -- *sigh*, I guess this must be one of those common constants among all parallel universes...

  69. Re:YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOOSE BUT KARMA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The editors have unlimited mod points, we have no chance.

  70. Who's the real monster? by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

    Good night, sweet prince.

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  71. If anyone's interested, by NeuroManson · · Score: 1

    The final episode of Futurama is posted to alt.binaries.multimedia.cartoons in SVCD quality MPEG-2.

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  72. Fox is a bunch of Assholes by StormRider01 · · Score: 1

    I want Futurama and Firefly back

  73. Re:FUTURAMA SUCKS by gfody · · Score: 1

    obvious flamebait but.. having the setting in the future isn't the only thing that makes it different. futurama is geek humor. its good shit, but not the popular strategy. the world is getting smaller and if your taste doesn't fit the wide part of the curve your assed out

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  74. Futurama's dead? by Cloud+K · · Score: 1

    Hell of a shame.

    Heh... it was interesting, when Final Fantasy X's Wakka opened his mouth and made Bender noises. I didn't know at first that they're both played by the same voice actor. After that I had a hard time differentiating the two!

    But I digress. It's a sad reflection on today's entertainment that Futurama's gone. They're too busy reviving old ideas (T3 and Blake's 7 as recent examples) for anyone to enjoy new material. Music is similar - it's been a long time since I heard something original (in the UK at least) rather than a rewrite of some older song.

    It wouldn't be so bad, but remakes are generally not good. Enterprise is a terrible prequel to Star Trek TOS, Randall and Hopkirk was OK but nowhere near as good as the original, more recent Dr Who = bad, Terminator 3 destroys the "warm feeling" very final ending of T2 and sucks at it, and no doubt Blake's 7: A Rebellion Reborn will have little going for it. (How the hell can you have B7 without Vila or Orac?)

    Rant has gone off course again! But I feel rather strongly that remakes of existing material is what's destroying entertainment that's relatively new.

    1. Re:Futurama's dead? by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      I went throught the film guide, almost every single film out is either a remake, sequel, adaptation or copy. The ammount of crap that gets put out, you would think that a little show like futurama would survive. It might not be the best, or original (tell me if im wrong) but its still more entertaining that sitting though a sequel to an adaptation of a cartoon adaptation of a comic (X-Men 2) or a sequel and a prequel (star wars) or a sequel to a parody (scary movie 2), then theres the sequel thats actually a remake (T3) the adaptation thats just too long for one film (lord of the rings) and the remake of a remake * 15 thats based on a true story (titanic) which better not have a sequel or prequel. this post is way off topic but no i just dont care.

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  75. Re:FUTURAMA SUCKS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >obvious flamebait but.. having the setting in the future isn't the only thing that makes it different. futurama is geek humor. its good shit, but not the popular strategy. the world is getting smaller and if your taste doesn't fit the wide part of the curve your assed out

    Perhaps, but I'd still like to see more from Matt Groening...something like I said before, AKBAR & JEFF and other classic stuff from the BIG BOOK OF HELL and other Groening pre-Simpsons sketches.

    Look it up if you don't know what I'm talking about. That it Groening at his best, not Futurama, which probably will sign a deal to get it shown on TECH TV, hopefully with new episodes.

    After all, Futurama would look great right after TECH TV's daily dose of the "Thunderbirds." :-)

  76. Coping with Grief by DarkRecluse · · Score: 1

    Given that I thought the show had been cancelled at least 2 years ago, I've had enough time to grieve and have gotten over it.

    Now you tell me that the show is just being cancelled after tonight?

    That's like watching your dog jump out in front of a car, thinking he's dead, and your parents keeping him locked in the basement for 2 years.

    First the dog, now this?!?!

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    1. Re:Coping with Grief by UserGoogol · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's a difference between Cancelled and having the final episode. "Cancelled" means that no more episodes will be made. However cartoons are not made live. (It's a terrible strain on the animators' wrists.) And networks typically have motivation to air finished episodes which they've already paid for.

      Case in point, there are still episodes of Invader Zim which have yet to be aired. Clerks was basically cancelled before the show even got on the air, as far as I know.

      Anyway, I don't think Futurama was never formally "cancelled". I think how it happened was that Fox merely let their contract with Futurama run out naturally.

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  77. Re:On-TV was in So. Cal also by justMichael · · Score: 1

    Ah the good old days. My first introduction to scrambled porn.

    "Was, that... Yeah, I think it was... a nipple!"

  78. witty saying at the bottom of each episode by hklingon · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Did anyone else notice the witty saying at the bottom right before the credits?

    See you on another channel

    hahahaha! That is really great. Hopefully this isn't the last we'll see of Futurama...

    1. Re:witty saying at the bottom of each episode by forkboy · · Score: 1

      In case you don't know, it plays on the Cartoon Network at 11pm, Sunday-Thursday. 5 nights of Bender a week! (And it's followed by Family Guy!)

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    2. Re:witty saying at the bottom of each episode by numark · · Score: 1

      It hasn't been playing in that time slot for a week or two now. It's been Home Movies followed by Family Guy. I understand they might be bringing it back sometime in the near future in a different time slot, but that remains to be seen. (And it only played Monday-Thursday as far as I know; Sunday has a different lineup)

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    3. Re:witty saying at the bottom of each episode by forkboy · · Score: 1

      er, yeah MOnday-Thursday...my bad...readin /. while high.

      I noticed it wasn't on all last week, I'm assuming they're just taking a week or two off to switch things around a little. (Or they're waiting on the next season of episodes...everything before was all 1st season AFAIK) Hopefully not too much longer, I like Home Movies and all, but it ain't Futurama.

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  79. FOX doesn't know good Programming by bashurst · · Score: 1

    Apparently FOX likes dismissing all their good shows; Futurama, Firefly, Titus (I liked it, Stacy Keech Kicked ass) I would say that we should all boycott FOX, but I know that won't happen, Too many people like the Low brow entertainment of Joe Millionare and Temptation Island. I'll personally won't be investing anymore time in shows that go on FOX until Gail Berman is removed from the network. RIP Futurama, We'll see you on DVD.

  80. The best part... by what+happen! · · Score: 0

    was when the devil made that dramatic return to hell with Nixon's head. I lost it when I saw him running by in the next scene.

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  81. Bonzai!! by threedays · · Score: 1

    I dont know what you people are complaining about, this just means that now we can have even more quality fox programming, like BONZAI!

    ok really, why is that garbage even on the air.

  82. It's sad, but of course..... by ziggy_zero · · Score: 1

    ...this doesn't compare the the far worse cancellation of the Clerks animated series. That show was hi-fucking-larious, but ABC (bad network in the first place) put it in a horrible time slot (I think it was at like 9:30 or 10:00). They aired two episodes, then cancelled it.

    To be fair, it wouldn't have been funny at all to people who haven't seen Clerks, so it didnt' really appeal to many people. But it could have lasted a lot longer if they had put it on Fox or even HBO or something and given it a decent timeslot. They made 6 episodes, and they're available on DVD for like 15 bucks, complete with intros for each episode by Jay and Silent Bob and commentaries by Kevin Smith. High quality.

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  83. Re:LOOK, DUMBFUCK by BadmanX · · Score: 1

    Or it could be the the-system-fails-again department.

  84. And that is why I have a Tivo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never miss an episode, on any channel...

  85. Untapped Market? by fwc · · Score: 1
    After Fox cancelled Firefly (and subsequently John Doe) I started looking around at the ratings figures.

    I was shocked. Apparently getting getting Approximately 4.48 million (Firefly), or 5.17 million (Futurama) or even 5.96 million people (John Doe) to watch a show on average is grounds to take it off the air because it's a failure.

    I don't know about you, but I sure am impressed by anything which can get even a couple of million people interested in it.

    You'd think *someone* could come up with a business model to continue to produce these shows.

    1. Re:Untapped Market? by smcavoy · · Score: 1

      Sure there is market for it. Problem is the big networks aren't interested in higher quality lower audience productions. Their just like McDonalds, producing the lowest quality product to the widest audience possible. TV is not art, it's advertising.

    2. Re:Untapped Market? by rpillala · · Score: 1

      I agree with the other poster. For TV networks, you're the product, not the customer.

      Ravi

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  86. DVD Quality - Get rid of interlacing, composite by My+Third+Account · · Score: 1

    I don't think the Simpsons S1 problems were completely fixed with S2. What bothers me is that the Simpsons DVDs are interlaced, and obviously captured from a composite source (you can see artifacts around color edges, especially text -- "dot crawl"). I think they just took the 1/2" video masters and digitized them.

    Now this stuff is animation ... it's like film, it's an inherently progressive source. I don't really know the details of how animation works but it would be nice if they could go back and redo the cartoons in progressive video.

    I think you'd see a big difference if they went back and really remastered it.

  87. Bummer, my submission was beat... by NanoGator · · Score: 0, Funny

    I submitted this story earlier. Mine had a catchier headline: "Bender is dead!"

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    1. Re:Bummer, my submission was beat... by NanoGator · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Topic of article: Futurama
      Topic of post: Futuarama
      Moderation of Post: OffTopic
      Moderator Clue Rating: 0

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    2. Re:Bummer, my submission was beat... by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

      That was a pretty lame moderation. In his defense, your joke could have been told a little funnier.

    3. Re:Bummer, my submission was beat... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks to whoever fixed this mod, it's appreciated. Thanks for listening. :)

      *posting anon*

  88. Farscape (and others) in Australia by OzPixel · · Score: 1

    Oddly enough, in Australia it is possible to get whole-season box sets of Farscape for around $AUS 125 (about $US 80) - there are only 4 or 6 discs in the set (can't remember now, and it's at home). Of course, they're Region 4, you'd need to have a multi-region player to see them. Places like Atlantic DVD and EZY DVD ship internationally.

    (as if it wasn't obvious, when DVD region-encoding got created, all the major countries were assigned, then Region 4 was created as the "Arse End of the World" zone. There are far fewer releases in R4 than for the other zones. Australians (and probably New Zealanders) pretty much have to have multi-region players.)

    David.

  89. Fan Scripts = Fan Episodes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why can't we make our own Futurama, Family Guy, etc. episodes? I'm willing to create the site, host it, etc. if anyone else is interested.

    http://www.bedoper.com if you need to contact me about it.

  90. Bleck! I HATED Family Guy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really don't know why, I think it was the way that noone was sympathetic on the show. I couldn't really like any of the charaters and alot of them just flat out annoyed me.
    On the other hand, I was really getting into Futurama and had no idea it was being canceled until I read this. I think Fox is making a bad move here as the ONLY time I actually interrupt my PC time to pay attention to TV anymore is their Sunday night line-up. Other than that, TV watching is for times when I need to be passive like when holding my infant son or getting ready for work. Those times are usually filled with History Channel or CNN.

  91. BEST-SHOW-EVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not over yet people.. There's a total of about an episode worth of cutscenes in the PS2 Futurama game. There's a (slim) chance for a movie and also the faint possibility for Cartoon Network to resuscitate the show.

  92. Re:FUTURAMA SUCKS by btellier · · Score: 1

    Why on earth is this moderated as a troll? The guy isn't saying "FUTUR0M0R SUX" but instead says that it sucks and then presents extremely reasonable arguments as to why he doesn't like the show. I feel somewhat the same. They try for the same sort of irreverant humor as The Simpsons and with the same animation and some of the writers. Groening himself has often said that the point of Futurama was to be able to do wacky story lines and interesting sets but keep the style of The Simpsons. The fact is that The Simpsons got lucky with the actors. Picture The Godfather with B movie actors. It just wouldn't have the same impact. Clearly some of the characters and actors on that show aren't up to par with The Simpsons. Bender and Fry clearly carry the show, while Katey Segal's character and the voices of Zoidberg and the Professor are weak at best, and irritating more often than not. I think that the jokes are weak, but they could certianly be helped a great deal by a good voice behind them.

    Think about it this way: how many times has a friend of yours ruined a really funny Chris Rock bit because he says the same words with a poor delivery?

  93. Zoidberg for president by gsfprez · · Score: 2

    i have never before, nor shall i dare say, ever again by myself with no one around spontaneously shoot milk out nose and laugh out loud at the funniest cartoon character of all time.

    Huzzah!!! Someone is noticing me! (/Zoidberg)

    i am truly bent that my TiVo shall no longer grab for me the funniest and best written 22 minutes of my TV viewing week. Fox can bite my shiny metal ass for cancelling Futurama

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  94. Futurama Back on CN at 11:30 Monday by mistermund · · Score: 1

    Just watching Cartoon Network's Adult Swim - the text intros said: - They Goofed - And viewers ran - Like gazelles chased by cheetas - so Futurama returns tomorrow (Monday) at 11:30pm Neato.

  95. Don't forget that we also learned, by ArcCoyote · · Score: 1

    In one episode, that Bender is powered by a 6502.

  96. Fox wanted children! by JANYAtty. · · Score: 1

    Its obvious that Fox wanted to make Sunday the wacky family time. Simpsons, Family Guy, Malcolm in the Middle, all those lame Malcolm knock off's (which I never saw so Im not so sure). Anyway, they wanted to 'fix' Futurama- they made Groening add a kid so he added the Prof's clone kid Cubert- and if you notice that the kid is particulary insipid- thats cuz Groening didnt like it. Of course it didnt help that they got an entire season behind and fired the writing staff. Geez Fox, couldntcha keep your mits off.

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  97. Re:FUTURAMA SUCKS by very · · Score: 1

    Is there a better description for FUTURAMA?

    Just because it's a "Geek Humor" as you dubbed it, doesn't mean it's not funny at all.

    Futurama is funny even if you're not a "geek".

    "its good shit, but not the popular strategy."

    Just because it's not another "reality based" television program or any other "stereotypical" television programs, it doesn't make Futurama any less popular.

    The known fact is that there are a small group of people who in essence don't give a damn about Futurama. They are FOX NETWORK EXECUTIVES.
    Why even bother putting a program into your programming wthout any intention to promote it.

    It's a surprise that Futurama last 5 TV seasons (4 production seasons). With lousy time slot, and being the redheaded stepchild of FOX Programming Schedule (pun intended - FRY), Futurama is doomed by the third season (quote of sarcasm: "This show has gone downhill since the third season" - BENDER SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ON TV)

    FUTURAMA, it does NOT suck!
    It's merely mistreated by FOX (CRAP as described in The Simpsons - when Homer bought Animatronix-imightmisspelledit- stocks and he said: "What is this CRAP?" - "FOX .......")

  98. Atilla the "Fox Channel" Hun by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 2

    Oh well, just another shining example of how Fox knows how to cancel the best shows: Now i've lost my family guy AND futurama fix

    Geez, lets not forget Dark Angel and Firefly. And I'm betting "Keen Eddie" will soon get the axe. I'm sure they're even more causualties. They're probably repressed memories waiting to explode on my consciousness.

    And doesn't an Almighty Deity make them suffer like ABC? (for killing Cupid...)

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  99. Simpsons VS. Futurama... how is Futurama smarter? by 0137 · · Score: 1

    Futurama has exhibited the same inconsistancy as the simpsons, more so even... even in one single episode, they might seem to be on a constant hilarious track then drag it down with sappy melodrama. Some episodes (like the Leela-Parents one) are almost totally awful melodrama. Sometimes one episode is quality gag after quality gag... sometimes entire ones are flat except for one or two lines... Just like the Simpsons of nowadays.

    My question is: many of you seem to consider it to be a SMARTER show; why?

    If you want to make an argument based on the depth of the repsective refrences (or, debatably, namedrops), consider the following: (admittedly rushed and brief)

    I will agree that Futurama OCCASIONALLY (much less now then at the beginning) had a lot of fantastic GEEK REFERENCES, which I quite enjoyed... I won't mention the overly obvious; one I liked, mostly used in the first few eps, was the overabundance of owls in NNYC... a blatant nod (I believe) to Philip K. Dick / 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?'.

    BUT geek references != SMART, at least in my book... Simpsons, as well as the constant pop culture refrences, has many literary and political gags which are probably nearly as obscure, considering... witness the episode where John Updike was ghostwriting for Krusty.

    Judging by google score (which I will admit are biased towards scifi geekdom as opposed to literati):

    "John Updike" 59,800
    "Philip K. Dick" 132,000
    (as of 0328.11.08.2003 MDT)

  100. Re:FUTURAMA SUCKS by linto5 · · Score: 1
    while Katey Segal's character and the voices of Zoidberg and the Professor are weak at best, and irritating more often than not

    I love Zoidberg. He's my second favorite character( after Bender, of course). I don't even think it's going out on a limb to say his voice is pretty good, too.

    Woop Woop Woop.

  101. Dark Angel by dave1g · · Score: 1

    Fox is good at sabotaging shows.

    Dark Angel's first season had some pretty good ratings. It appears that the ball was starting to roll for a show called firefly. One of the execs liked that more than Dark Angel and Fox couldn't afford to run both at the same time. So a choice was made to kill Dark Angel by moving it to a friday 8pm (central) timeslot. Coincadentally the shows largest viewer demographic was out on dates at that time. The ratings plumeted.

    Me, being the dateless wonder that I am still watched the show and it was just as good if not better than the 1st season.

    But they managed to kill it off and replace it with firefly. Cameron (Terminator, Titanic) was pretty pissed, and was thinking of going to another network to pitch a mini series so he could atleast finish the story instead of being truncated like it was... nothing ever came of that.

    I really liked that show and surprisingly it had nothing to do with Jessica Alba being majorly hot.. in the first season she didnt look all that great anyways.

  102. Re:FUTURAMA SUCKS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "a really funny Chris Rock bit"

    When you get to the end of this post, all is suddenly explained.

  103. Live Live Bender by arclightfire · · Score: 1
    Though not as full-on in gags as the Simpsons, I really go into is subtle subversive qualities. I kind of agree with the premise of a CNN article; "For now, however, we ancients of the 21st century who love it will continue to celebrate "Futurama" as unbeatable satire -- even as its prime-time cycle nears an end."

    Snif.

    [ Wipes tear away ]

  104. Good news everyone by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 1

    http://209.51.131.210/futurama.s05e16.the.devils.h ands.are.idle.playthings-ftv.[bt].torrent http://209.51.131.210/futurama.s05e15.bender.shoul d.not.be.allowed.on.tv-ftv.[bt].torrent

  105. correction... by gosand · · Score: 1
    Clear Channel, Fox, et al are making money precisely because the public voluntarily chooses their programming.

    Minor correction - the public voluntarily chooses their programming based on what is available and what is pounded into their brains with advertising.

    If it was simply left up to people to decide, then timeslots wouldn't be an issue. Networks can clearly push whatever shows they want, and bury the ones they don't like.

    Don't give "people" too much credit.
    "A person is smart. People are dumb, dangerous, panicky, stupid animals and you know it." --Agent K, MIB

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  106. 105 iq by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually taking out the crayon made homer of average intelligence, you find this out when he bemoans the world for treating a man with a 105 iq badly.

  107. Only partially true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Put poor food in front of a hungry person and they'll eat some of it, that doesn't mean they like it or that they prefer it. TV only provides a limited number of choices due to their "Me Too!"-ism. My cable provider forces me to by all sorts of crap. Here is a partial list of what they provide:

    1. Mainstream TV channels (NBC, ABC, etc): Friends clones and other canned laughter sitcoms

    2. Fox: "Cops" and other assorted human misery passed off as entertainment for the Bread & Circuses public. I think the Seinfeld and Simpsons reruns are keeping them in business.

    3. The History Channel: The Hitler and "War Toys for Boys" Channel (I give them credit for the Ancient Warriors series)

    4. The Discovery/Learning channel: The Egypt and Tyrannosaurus Rex Channels

    5. Home Shop For Crap Channel: TV for bored housewives with credit cards and jewelry fetishes

    6. Telemundo: If I was Spanish I'd appreciate it probably. Seems to be mainly Novellas anyway.

    7. E!: Drunk half-naked tourists in clubs screaming "This place is WILD!" into the camera plus the obligatory drag queen shot. Should rename itself "T&A!"

    8. MSNBC: "The liberals control the media but we are impartial journalists! Now, a sreaming match on why we shouldn't criticize the president condensed to a few sound bites..."

    I could go on...

    On the positive side:

    1. Bravo and A&E: Some good movies and original shows.

    2. PBS: Good when they aren't on a pledge drive (Celine Dion anyone?) and are taking a break from dry British dramas.

    3. CNN: Generally do a good job with the news but I wished they'd get rid of all the crap that clutters the screen.

    4. Comedy Central: Avoid their movies (Up In Smoke again!?) but they have The Daily Show, Insomniac and some good comedians.

    Basically my cable company doesn't provide me with any way of voting for what I want so I'm at their mercy as to what they put in their packages. I have to buy a lot of junk to get a few gems.

  108. Pedantic by maxume · · Score: 1

    I have a recording form sometime before March 2001 where he says the following:

    "If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college" - Lewis Black

    Do you have it wrong, or does he drift? hmmm.

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  109. Futurama by Redbw6 · · Score: 1

    So I guess I'm a day behind and missed the final episode of Futurama. How was it? I wasn't a dedicated fan but I would watch it if it happened to be on. It was pretty funny. Too bad it's now "pasturama." (Dorky I know)

  110. Re:Let's make a Hitler Channel by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    the people who moderated my post [above] obviously didnt actually consider what it said and/or they dont watch those channels.
    Shows about Hitler, shows about Bridges, they are interesting, you fuckers. They are also in no way related to shows about gay interior decorators. I actually want a Hitler and Bridges channel, you are a fuckhead, and reply to my post instead of moderating it, you fucking idiot.

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