Scenario - clean room, no Faraday cages, as far away from all interference as possible. Testing grounds, University of Redlands Quad.
Test, three users each of iPhone4 and 3G and 3GS stand out in the quad, and try to get signal, both cellular and wifi, while holding the phone in different manners and orientations.
We shut down the school radio facilities for as clean a test as we could manage out in the quad with as little OTA interference as possible.
The iPhone 4 failed all tests except one (held upside-down with the antenna 'topside') while the previous generations could connect and surf or make calls relatively effortlessly. The iPhone4 dropped two calls. All it took was putting the iPhone4 close to any source of water and signal practically DIES, whether that source be a glass full of water or the water in your body.
"It's best if your immediate personal safety and convenience are a priority."
No, it is not. See the people who get shot in the back after they've been subdued and on the ground. (BART Incident)
Your only safe recourse is to fight with your fucking life. If you refuse to make the statement that you will not tolerate this bullshit, they will continue to pull this bullshit.
Lying down makes you non-patriotic and a fucking coward to boot.
"Fact: even when held, and the iPhone 4 signal drops by approximately 19dB, it still has a stronger signal than the Nexus One or iPhone 3GS"
Fact: no iPhone 4 user can get reception in my apartment, PERIOD, out of the eight that have tried. Nexus One, HTC, and older phones do. Even the iPhone 3GS from my next-door dope dealer gets signal, and can pick up the wi-fi blasting from the AP set out in the University sports stadium across the street from me. The iPhone 4 can not, it can't even see the other wireless APs around except for the one in my apartment.
"I do think Apple deserve credit for finding a place in the phone to include an antenna that I presume to be much bigger than your standard patch antenna."
I don't. Nobody with any antenna experience would make it so that it could so easily be bridged and artificially lengthened, unless the device were meant for tuning to multiple frequencies.
And EXPOSING the antenna? I'm sorry, that's just the dumbest fucking move I've ever seen. I could understand it back in the 40s-80s when we were using lead-based paint and such and you might need to wrap some foil around the antenna to make it get better signal, but this is the new fucking millennium and even an amateur HAM wouldn't make such a stupid mistake.
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Nature took care of it JUST FINE.
Darwin smiled upon those with the proper tools.
You think these Keynesian fools can predict the outcome of a mere game when they can't even predict the economy with their false voodoo?
Give me a break.
Because the best programmers in the world don't mean shit when the hardware fucking sucks and is overpriced.
What's the difference between a Google Fanboi, Microsoft Fanboi, and Apple Fanboi?
Apple Fanbois sing once the chains are on.
"You're either being pedantic or wrong."
More like technical beyond your means.
In fact, *EVERYTHING* is based from analog waveforms. Including your very cells.
We fight back, sadly it's all individual instead of a concentrated united effort.
"I've got a full proof plan to get rich."
Yep, full proof, alright. 200 proof, for sure.
Scenario - clean room, no Faraday cages, as far away from all interference as possible. Testing grounds, University of Redlands Quad.
Test, three users each of iPhone4 and 3G and 3GS stand out in the quad, and try to get signal, both cellular and wifi, while holding the phone in different manners and orientations.
We shut down the school radio facilities for as clean a test as we could manage out in the quad with as little OTA interference as possible.
The iPhone 4 failed all tests except one (held upside-down with the antenna 'topside') while the previous generations could connect and surf or make calls relatively effortlessly. The iPhone4 dropped two calls. All it took was putting the iPhone4 close to any source of water and signal practically DIES, whether that source be a glass full of water or the water in your body.
I crimp my own cables, thank you very much. I also build my own antenna arrays, LED arrays, computers, centrifuges, and a LOT more.
I'm also one of the leading researchers in the field of targeted-wavelength horticulture, which requires PLENTY of optical physics and biochemistry.
What are *YOUR* credentials?
"It may be an analog signal, but that analog signal is carrying digital data"
Wrong. Analog can't carry data, only be pulsed to represent a 1 or 0.
It wouldn't, capacitance and attenuation from the fluids in your body would still cause issues.
Splitting the antenna to two sides was a big fuckup, as well.
Ten thousand times *THIS*
Seriously, just recycle the shit since we have the facilities to do so.
"That's because we're talking about digital signals, which are the realm of EE and CS. "
Bullshit, son. It's all a fucking *ANALOG* pulse down a goddamned conduit of one sort or another. That's PURE FUCKING PHYSICS.
Did you fail those classes?
Who is the Commander for their special forces?
I'll deal with him personally. Give me all relevant details.
"It's best if your immediate personal safety and convenience are a priority."
No, it is not. See the people who get shot in the back after they've been subdued and on the ground. (BART Incident)
Your only safe recourse is to fight with your fucking life. If you refuse to make the statement that you will not tolerate this bullshit, they will continue to pull this bullshit.
Lying down makes you non-patriotic and a fucking coward to boot.
"The drop IS more pronounced, but the signal is STILL better. I call that irrelevant."
Run a bandwidth test under that degraded signal.
Watch the 3GS win versus the 4. I've been testing it all week.
I don't call it irrelevant. I call it BULLSHIT ENGINEERING.
"Show me a single software company that hasn't released a piece of software with known bugs, and then charged for 'version N+1'."
Epic Games, Solar Winds. Epic Games, Kilo Blaster. iD games, Commander Keen.
Oh, what, you thought I couldn't do it?
I'm sorry, Anandtech doesn't have the EE resources that the University right behind me has.
And we've been doing extensive testing the entire week.
Anandtech is talking halfway out of their ass.
Another part of the problem is the actual antenna bridges to the casing after even the lightest sweat exposure from your hand.
"AT&T covers 97% of us with a voice/data concurrent network"
Wrong. This figure is more like 60%.
And that was after two hours of looking over the population density maps and laying it over with AT&T service maps.
Too lazy to do the real math so you could speak fact?
"Fact: even when held, and the iPhone 4 signal drops by approximately 19dB, it still has a stronger signal than the Nexus One or iPhone 3GS"
Fact: no iPhone 4 user can get reception in my apartment, PERIOD, out of the eight that have tried. Nexus One, HTC, and older phones do. Even the iPhone 3GS from my next-door dope dealer gets signal, and can pick up the wi-fi blasting from the AP set out in the University sports stadium across the street from me. The iPhone 4 can not, it can't even see the other wireless APs around except for the one in my apartment.
"This is a user perception issue, not a technical failing."
Says someone obviously lacking in technical experience with regards to antenna construction and layout.
"I do think Apple deserve credit for finding a place in the phone to include an antenna that I presume to be much bigger than your standard patch antenna."
I don't. Nobody with any antenna experience would make it so that it could so easily be bridged and artificially lengthened, unless the device were meant for tuning to multiple frequencies.
And EXPOSING the antenna? I'm sorry, that's just the dumbest fucking move I've ever seen. I could understand it back in the 40s-80s when we were using lead-based paint and such and you might need to wrap some foil around the antenna to make it get better signal, but this is the new fucking millennium and even an amateur HAM wouldn't make such a stupid mistake.
"Exactly. If you're the only person in the filing, you might get something. If there are thousands or millions, enjoy your 35cents."
Wanna know how I know you don't know about class action lawsuits?
I'm getting way more than that and I'm one of those that took EA to court over Spore.
"In the U.S. you *automatically* join a class action lawsuit whether you want to or not"
WRONG. A judge must first decide if the cases presented are similar enough in scope to warrant inclusion into a class-action.
Even then, if you never filed suit or joined the class, you're free to take it into a small-claims court.
"But please, don't let the facts get in the way you YOUR ignorant rant."
Speaking as a CLASS REPRESENTATIVE of a class-action lawsuit, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG and you need to shut up.