shifting loyalties, dubious ethics that they only use when it suits them, and [snip] the media support and propaganda
Hey Anonymous Coward, how do you look at the current administration in Washington and write those words with a straight face? You couldn't have described Trump, Ryan and McConnell, their toadies and Fox news any better if you'd tried.
I wish i could quit sugar as easily as I quit coke, since that's going to cause plenty of problems itself
I quit carbs mostly cold turkey last Spring - At that time I was 6'2 and 260 pounds. I'm down about 35 pounds since then. Another 35 pounds to go.
My addiction was pretty powerful, and the first month was hell on earth, but after that things are mostly OK. I still crave the odd doughnut or bag of Doritos, but it's manageable.
You can do it, provided you can survive that first month.
You lose the argument when you refer to others as "moron deniers". If you are not intellectually honest enough to allow others to have alternate points of view
Hey Anonymous Coward - People who believe the earth is flat or we didn't go to the moon or evolution isn't real may very well have "alternate points of view" but it doesn't mean they're not morons.
Apple prices may increase because of the massive Tariffs we may be imposing on China - but there is an easy solution where there would be ZERO tax, and indeed a tax incentive. Make your products in the United States instead of China. Start building new plants now. Exciting! #MAGA
Good lordy Trump is such a moron.
Does he truly not realize that consumer prices will rise with either model?
1) Build in China with tariffs: Consumer prices increase.
2) Build in the USA with American wages. Consumer prices increase.
The night life game there, where admittedly vanity is key, is seen as an end of it's own to a lot of locals.
Young locals, certainly - But once you're 35, the 'night life game' starts to become pretty unimportant (and for many 35-year-olds it's likely been unimportant for a half-decade already). You'd rather be at a pub with your friends, sharing stories and nachos.
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about. He looks black.
OK, so one example from over six years ago, where NBC launched an investigation and fired the individual involved.
This would hardly meet the definition of something the media does "regularly."
They regularly edit the videos to a soundbite, removing context, and sometimes even removing words to change what was said./
"Removing words?"
Can you give us some examples of the MSM removing words, Anonymous Coward?
You say "regularly" so there must be thousands of examples of the MSM editing video of Trump in the last couple of years to remove words, but a dozen or so examples would be a good start.
and their crack-pot theory probably goes something along the lines that it's hard to follow a straight line un-aided
Well, their crackpot pie-plate theory already requires that earth's magnetism behaves in some sort of crazy way.
If you take off from a point on the earth and fly due-west at a constant altitude above sea level, you'll fly in a straight line, eventually winding up back where you started.
Their theory (to explain circumnavigation and why you'd wind up back where you started) is that you'd fly in a circle around the circumference of the pie plate. So for that to happen, somehow "west" has to steer you in a perfect circle, not straight, regardless of the radius of the circle you're trying to fly, i.e. "west" at 5 degrees of latitude would be a different arc than "west" at 60 degrees.
So they *must* just be trolling us. No one can possibly be this stupid.
If you took off in a jet at the equator and circumnavigated the earth at 500mph the flight would take you 50 hours.
If you did the same thing at 60 degrees south latitude, the 500mph circumnavigation (at the same altitude) would take you 24 hours - Less than half the time.
(At 70 degrees south you could do it in 17 hours.)
Even with the strongest hurricane-force headwinds / tailwinds ever seen on earth it would still be much faster at 60 degrees south than at the equator.
Again, easily provable by taking off in an airplane, while wearing a wristwatch and using your throttle to keep your groundspeed at 500mph, regardless of headwinds / tailwinds.
Proves flat-earthers really aren't that dumb - They're just taunting us.
Down at ground level: Any sailor knows that a trip around the south pole is a very long and difficult journey.
Of course - many more variables. It's why you need to use an airplane at a set altitude.
See, that comedy FAQ proves flat-earthers don't actually believe this nonsense are trolling us for fun.
Take circumnavigation. If you're really circling a pie plate like they suggest with that picture, it would take longer at the edge and than would at the middle.
Plainly, on earth it doesn't. Assuming the same velocity, it's much quicker to circle the 60th parallel than it is the equator. Easily proven by getting in a plane.
The hours and hours of audio encompasses every single communication between the astronauts, mission control and back-room support staff during the entire mission.
That is the SjW narrative used against critics of the movie.
What's absolutely STUPID about all this "SJW" complaining when it comes to Star Wars is "social justice" is exactly what the first three movies were about.
What were the Rebel Alliance if not "Social Justice Warriors?"
I mean for Christ sakes, it's right there in the first movie, in one of its most famous lines of dialogue:
"For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic."
There's also a large group in-between that you've left out. I'm 51, when I was 10 I went to see Star Wars 13 times in the theatre. I bought every Marvel Star Wars comic from 1977 to the end of the run in 1986. I spent my allowance on Kenner toys in 1979. I've looked forward to, and enjoyed, every post-original-trilogy Star Wars theatrical movie. I own all the DVDs. Even Solo when it comes out. I've enjoyed all the easter-egg nods (subtle and not-so-subtle) to fans like me. Why? Because they have lightsabers and droids and X-wings and action and everything you've named. Most of my friends are the same.
So there's also a huge group of Star Wars fans (like me) who go to the movies, sometimes multiple times, who are not "pedantic and legalistic."
...and yes, we drive the Fanboys nuts when we say things like "It was pretty cool when Holdo sliced that Dreadnought in half" but they need to deal with it and move on. They're just fun movies.
The left encourages emotional responses to problems.
You're actually describing THE RIGHT, Anonymous Coward. The right acts on "their gut" and "things they've heard" and "their feelings" instead of FACTS.
The rest of the world has figured out how to bring gun deaths way down.
Those mechanisms don't align with the right's emotional responses so they respond to those facts with FAKE NEWS or stupid emotional responses like "So next you'll want to ban motor vehicles?"
Apparently when they try writing it for a liberal audience someone fact checks it and the whole thing falls apart instead of getting passed on.
Yep, on average, liberals have more education than conservatives - Part of that education is critical thinking, which is why fake news stories tend to flame out.
It was mid-2016, and Buzzfeed's media editor, Craig Silverman, noticed a funny stream of completely made-up stories that seemed to originate from one small Eastern European town.
"We ended up finding a small cluster of news websites all registered in the same town in Macedonia called Veles," Silverman recalls.
He and a colleague started to investigate, and shortly before the US election they identified at least 140 fake news websites which were pulling in huge numbers on Facebook.
The young people in Veles may or may not have had much interest in American politics, but because of the money to be made via Facebook advertising, they wanted their fiction to travel widely on social media. The US presidential election - and specifically Donald Trump - was (and of course still is) a very hot topic on social media.
And so the Macedonians and other purveyors of fakery wrote stories with headlines such as "Pope Francis Shocks World, Endorses Donald Trump for President" and "FBI Agent Suspected in Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead in Apparent Murder-Suicide".
They were completely false. And thus began the modern - and internet-friendly - life of the phrase "fake news".
Tell that to Equifax. Virtually no fucking penalties of any significance WHATSOEVER.
https://yro.slashdot.org/story...
shifting loyalties, dubious ethics that they only use when it suits them, and [snip] the media support and propaganda
Hey Anonymous Coward, how do you look at the current administration in Washington and write those words with a straight face? You couldn't have described Trump, Ryan and McConnell, their toadies and Fox news any better if you'd tried.
I can take the conservatives' true criticisms.
Get back to me when you actually find some "true criticism" from a conservative.
Odds are good it can be rebutted in three fact-filled sentences, resulting in a stream of hatred and profanity in return.
I wish i could quit sugar as easily as I quit coke, since that's going to cause plenty of problems itself
I quit carbs mostly cold turkey last Spring - At that time I was 6'2 and 260 pounds. I'm down about 35 pounds since then. Another 35 pounds to go.
My addiction was pretty powerful, and the first month was hell on earth, but after that things are mostly OK. I still crave the odd doughnut or bag of Doritos, but it's manageable.
You can do it, provided you can survive that first month.
It is not the same deal. It is a textbook example of straw man.
It is exactly the same deal, Anonymous Coward.
While morons may disagree, the fact remains that all are proven science.
You lose the argument when you refer to others as "moron deniers". If you are not intellectually honest enough to allow others to have alternate points of view
Hey Anonymous Coward - People who believe the earth is flat or we didn't go to the moon or evolution isn't real may very well have "alternate points of view" but it doesn't mean they're not morons.
Same deal here.
Apple prices may increase because of the massive Tariffs we may be imposing on China - but there is an easy solution where there would be ZERO tax, and indeed a tax incentive. Make your products in the United States instead of China. Start building new plants now. Exciting! #MAGA
Good lordy Trump is such a moron.
Does he truly not realize that consumer prices will rise with either model?
1) Build in China with tariffs: Consumer prices increase.
2) Build in the USA with American wages. Consumer prices increase.
I live in Canada, Anonymous Coward. I have healthcare regardless of my job. Even if I don't have a job.
Like the Regal Beagle. (est 1977)
Come and knock on my door.
The night life game there, where admittedly vanity is key, is seen as an end of it's own to a lot of locals.
Young locals, certainly - But once you're 35, the 'night life game' starts to become pretty unimportant (and for many 35-year-olds it's likely been unimportant for a half-decade already). You'd rather be at a pub with your friends, sharing stories and nachos.
I'm sure they have some rational explanation why I can never see the Southern Cross from Minnesota?
The flat-earth morons attempt to explain it, but you can tell their heart's not really in it...
https://www.theflatearthsociet...
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about. He looks black.
OK, so one example from over six years ago, where NBC launched an investigation and fired the individual involved.
This would hardly meet the definition of something the media does "regularly."
They regularly edit the videos to a soundbite, removing context, and sometimes even removing words to change what was said./
"Removing words?"
Can you give us some examples of the MSM removing words, Anonymous Coward?
You say "regularly" so there must be thousands of examples of the MSM editing video of Trump in the last couple of years to remove words, but a dozen or so examples would be a good start.
and their crack-pot theory probably goes something along the lines that it's hard to follow a straight line un-aided
Well, their crackpot pie-plate theory already requires that earth's magnetism behaves in some sort of crazy way.
If you take off from a point on the earth and fly due-west at a constant altitude above sea level, you'll fly in a straight line, eventually winding up back where you started.
Their theory (to explain circumnavigation and why you'd wind up back where you started) is that you'd fly in a circle around the circumference of the pie plate. So for that to happen, somehow "west" has to steer you in a perfect circle, not straight, regardless of the radius of the circle you're trying to fly, i.e. "west" at 5 degrees of latitude would be a different arc than "west" at 60 degrees.
So they *must* just be trolling us. No one can possibly be this stupid.
If you took off in a jet at the equator and circumnavigated the earth at 500mph the flight would take you 50 hours.
If you did the same thing at 60 degrees south latitude, the 500mph circumnavigation (at the same altitude) would take you 24 hours - Less than half the time.
(At 70 degrees south you could do it in 17 hours.)
Even with the strongest hurricane-force headwinds / tailwinds ever seen on earth it would still be much faster at 60 degrees south than at the equator.
Again, easily provable by taking off in an airplane, while wearing a wristwatch and using your throttle to keep your groundspeed at 500mph, regardless of headwinds / tailwinds.
Proves flat-earthers really aren't that dumb - They're just taunting us.
Down at ground level: Any sailor knows that a trip around the south pole is a very long and difficult journey.
Of course - many more variables. It's why you need to use an airplane at a set altitude.
Backroom staff that got on the phone or a headset to talk with the mission control guys in headsets.
See, that comedy FAQ proves flat-earthers don't actually believe this nonsense are trolling us for fun.
Take circumnavigation. If you're really circling a pie plate like they suggest with that picture, it would take longer at the edge and than would at the middle.
Plainly, on earth it doesn't. Assuming the same velocity, it's much quicker to circle the 60th parallel than it is the equator. Easily proven by getting in a plane.
I wonder where the rest of it is coming from.
From -
https://www.sciencealert.com/n...
The hours and hours of audio encompasses every single communication between the astronauts, mission control and back-room support staff during the entire mission.
Gosh, you moon-hoaxers are almost as bad as flat-earthers.
I've always suspected none (or almost none) of the flat-earthers actually believe the earth is a big pie plate.
They're just trolling us for fun, right?
I mean, get in a plane at the equator and fly east or west. Eventually, after some refueling stops, you'll wind up back where you started.
How does that happen with a "flat earth?"
Now that we have pictures of moon buggy tracks and the gear left behind on the moon...
...as well as things like this newly-released thousands-of-hours of audio, do any of the moon hoaxers start to lose their resolve?
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_p...
Or to them, is it still just part of a huge ongoing conspiracy involving thousands of men and women that continues to live on nearly 50 years later?
That is the SjW narrative used against critics of the movie.
What's absolutely STUPID about all this "SJW" complaining when it comes to Star Wars is "social justice" is exactly what the first three movies were about.
What were the Rebel Alliance if not "Social Justice Warriors?"
I mean for Christ sakes, it's right there in the first movie, in one of its most famous lines of dialogue:
"For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic."
There's also a large group in-between that you've left out. I'm 51, when I was 10 I went to see Star Wars 13 times in the theatre. I bought every Marvel Star Wars comic from 1977 to the end of the run in 1986. I spent my allowance on Kenner toys in 1979. I've looked forward to, and enjoyed, every post-original-trilogy Star Wars theatrical movie. I own all the DVDs. Even Solo when it comes out. I've enjoyed all the easter-egg nods (subtle and not-so-subtle) to fans like me. Why? Because they have lightsabers and droids and X-wings and action and everything you've named. Most of my friends are the same.
...and yes, we drive the Fanboys nuts when we say things like "It was pretty cool when Holdo sliced that Dreadnought in half" but they need to deal with it and move on. They're just fun movies.
So there's also a huge group of Star Wars fans (like me) who go to the movies, sometimes multiple times, who are not "pedantic and legalistic."
The left encourages emotional responses to problems.
You're actually describing THE RIGHT, Anonymous Coward. The right acts on "their gut" and "things they've heard" and "their feelings" instead of FACTS.
The rest of the world has figured out how to bring gun deaths way down.
Those mechanisms don't align with the right's emotional responses so they respond to those facts with FAKE NEWS or stupid emotional responses like "So next you'll want to ban motor vehicles?"
Apparently when they try writing it for a liberal audience someone fact checks it and the whole thing falls apart instead of getting passed on.
Yep, on average, liberals have more education than conservatives - Part of that education is critical thinking, which is why fake news stories tend to flame out.
You do realise that it was CNN and the left in general who started the whole 'Fake News' thing to explain why Shillary lost the election?
This is incorrect, Anonymous Coward.
The term was in use long before Hillary lost the election.
From - https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs...
It was mid-2016, and Buzzfeed's media editor, Craig Silverman, noticed a funny stream of completely made-up stories that seemed to originate from one small Eastern European town. "We ended up finding a small cluster of news websites all registered in the same town in Macedonia called Veles," Silverman recalls.
He and a colleague started to investigate, and shortly before the US election they identified at least 140 fake news websites which were pulling in huge numbers on Facebook.
The young people in Veles may or may not have had much interest in American politics, but because of the money to be made via Facebook advertising, they wanted their fiction to travel widely on social media. The US presidential election - and specifically Donald Trump - was (and of course still is) a very hot topic on social media.
And so the Macedonians and other purveyors of fakery wrote stories with headlines such as "Pope Francis Shocks World, Endorses Donald Trump for President" and "FBI Agent Suspected in Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead in Apparent Murder-Suicide". They were completely false. And thus began the modern - and internet-friendly - life of the phrase "fake news".