Great. We will use the UAH version 5.6 since you do not trust the surface station record. (6.x is currently in beta and changing too often to make any predictions with). The data can be found here: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/pu... - see the "Globe" column. In the event that UAH5.6 is no longer available we will need to defer to the RSS satellite reconstruction. The data for rss can be found here: http://woodfortrees.org/data/r...
What's all this? Either it is or it's not. If it is, I'm sure it'll be all over the news. This isn't that hard. Let's not make it hard. Heard me laugh? Well you'd be right. I think this is the first time someone has used something from Alabama to prove their point. While I don't want to belittle them or anything, they aren't exactly known for being at the forefront. Woodfortrees.org? Now if I used a site like these I'd have a feeling it would be a conspiracy site or something.
I think I have an advantage in that you appear to get your science reporting from conspiracy websites. I could be wrong, but based on previous comments I believe it to be the case.
Ok, apparently I flew right over you like a 747 at altitude. Maybe Jim's article will enlighten you - http://www.giss.nasa.gov/resea... ? Here he admits the 1930s was warmer. While I'm sure if you read it you'll be like - eh? What's the big deal, this really was a big deal. Note that he was also wrong in his prediction about the 2000s.
Conspiracy web sites? That just doesn't even make sense why you would say that. This is to be expected in my case, I've been doing science, numbers and such for over 30 years. I have a feeling you're new to this. Look back, say over the past couple of hundred thousand years. Look back over the past 10,000 years. You'll understand why Man isn't responsible if you do. You'll understand how they're lying to you. Understand this isn't a 5 or 10 minute thing. You'll be looking at this stuff for a while.
I know, I know, pay no attention to them (there is no man behind the curtain), right?
Time will tell:)
Heh, certainly will. However understand that even if there is an increase, a year doesn't prove the point. Right now they're trying to explain away the previous 15 years. Often by questionable means, such as the sea is much warmer - gee, where have we heard that before? Ever deal with liars and confidence men? I've run across men that can make people so confident that they can convince everyone that they're an attractive woman. Men that can lie with such a straight face and no feeling that they can say anything. They'll think nothing about cleaning out your bank account if you you give them a chance.
Never the less, I think I should reiterate that I think things are warming up. It's not due to man and that's clear. Clear to me at least.
If you are not into earning easy money, then how about a gentleman's bet?
My goodness. You're still stuck on this?
So what's the bet? That 2016 will be warmer than 2015, is that your assertion? I'd like to make it clear it's not mine. I'm betting 2016 will not be warmer than 2015.
Besides, there's probably no way I'll ever find this next year, or even remember it. Might surprise you, I actually have a life. I figured when I pointed out that 2015 was a high water mark, you'd realize it would be very close to a fools bet to bet this year will be warmer than 2015. You either have no clue what you're doing (one might say you drank too much of the cool aid) or I have a feeling you think you know something I don't. I know there's a prediction of a two year cycle based on the Pacific water temperatures. That's not likely to get what you'll need to win this one. Just so you know. That's the thing with statistics. Even though something will almost certainly not happen, they happen sometimes.
However I am interested to know why you would think 2016 will be warmer and be so persistent about it. I find your signature line to be a bit ironic for that reason. I'm not that sure of myself. I have history to look at, I know the models are wrong from past experience, they've even admitted it. We also have likelyhood and probability. To me there's almost no question. The safe bet is 2016 will not be warmer than 2015.
If you want a taste of something similar go to Germany. Then try to do research on the number of Jews killed in the holocaust. If your research does not magically come out to 6 million you will quickly find yourself in jail, because it is specifically illegal to challenge the official story of the holocaust.
Wha? That's turned into a strange country. We had some German girls over on exchange, two different years. I was able to show them some real stuff from WWII, from Germany. Apparently none of that stuff is allowed over there. France seems to be up tight about it too. They shouldn't be putting people in jail over that stuff.
Maybe things will change once we hit 2045 as far as that goes.
Do you know who the most gullible person in the world is? That's right, it's yourself. Everyone can convince themselves of just about anything. Especially if it's food it seems.
I have a friend that is way overweight and I couldn't believe her. Came over and she had this bit monstrosity caramel cake from Safeway. Man I was gaining weight just looking at it. She said - go ahead, have a slice. Nobody will know.
I was like REALLY!?!?!?!? WTF is that thing even doing here? You need it like a hole in the head.
That was years ago. Today she still a big old woman, taking a drug store worth of drugs to keep her alive.
I lost about 100 Lbs on the HCG diet. The diet drops. Just follow the protocol, you can do it to. I feel so much better. I wish I could lose about 75 more Lbs. That would take me where they say you should be, which most people think is way to small.
Gotta love it, how to lie with statistics extended a bit. They chose their conspiracy carefully. We know earth is warming up. Has been for about 10,000 years. Just as the Venetians in Italy about it in the 14th century. They were trying to keep the Adriatic out even back then.
How about Man Made Global Warming is a hoax - now that's a hoax and we all know it. Have evidence against it - you're shunned out of the scientific community. Recently they even want to put you in jail if you don't believe - that's a very strong indication it's a hoax right there. When they know their science doesn't stand up, just put them in jail. We have a lot of history internationally to show that. It's like a slap in the face to everyone - wake up, it's a hoax. Yet true believers still believe. Pass the cool aid.
Bottom line is they can't show CO2 is causing it and they know it. We can show it's a symptom, and it is. Not the cause. Increased CO2 always follows global warming as we get more activity (duh). It's mother nature doing her thing, just as she always has.
Let's see how 2016 does. I bet it'll be back down.
How much?
It was rhetorical. I don't like a sure bet. Besides, I'm sure nobody would pay up if they lost anyway. I seem to have a difficult time collecting especially when the bet points out someone's stupidity, or they at least perceive it as stupidity because they drank the cool aid and believed someone else. Like someone betting that 2016 will be as hot or hotter than 2015. That's a stupid bet. Well they didn't really make the bet, Didn't shake, Didn't mean it, They don't remember the bet, or they didn't realize I was serious or some other complete BS.
Realize that statistically it's not that likely. By definition you're betting that it will match the highest water mark or exceed it in over a 100 years worth of records. If you believe the hype and you'd be very foolish to do that - high water mark of all time. Could happen. Not bloody likely. Probably about as likely as myself getting lucky with a Victoria's secret model. Sure, I own an airplane and fly into some of the most exclusive locations in the world and I've met a few of them that way (they look as delicious as they do in the catalog). However I know it won't happen.
Maybe you're talking about Mark's bet? http://wattsupwiththat.com/201... Check update 2. Sure, it's a sucker bet if you bet it'll be above the mean based on what we know. Of course, even he isn't going to bet that 2016 will be as hot or hotter than 2015. Only a fool would do that. However if I knew you, and you are serious, I'd bet you $10. I'd write it down on paper, you'd sign it too, then into my commercial grade safe. I'd come to collect my $10 next year. Understand it's to just prove a point. It's not worth my time to collect $10.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Canadian people. They certainly could do it. However who wants to freeze their balls off in the winter? Then there's the holier than thou attitude of the Canadians. They don't seem to appreciate the US. At least that's how it sure feels whenever I've been up there or worked with IT workers from Canada. One guy had a head so big I'm not sure how his head fit through the door. I'd say he was about an average IT guy.
Lucky they didn't bet that the 1990s would be the warmest decade on record for the 20th century. It was the 1930s. I actually did that bet and initially I lost, until they discovered a NASA scientist cooked his figures.
Funny thing though, they finally got a hot year. Let's see how 2016 does. I bet it'll be back down.
Oracle/Sun spent billions on Java, whereas Google spent almost nothing on the core technologies (Android = Linux + Java) that bring in over $30 billion a year. That is stealing.
For that kind of money Larry should be firing a lot of his incompetent java staff that keep adding band aids instead of fixing the underlying problems. That's why it's hacked over and over again, they don't fix the real problems. That's what's making it a POS.
Maybe I sound a bit bitter... I have to deal with Oracle. Security? Ha... Should call it wonder software. If it works, it's a wonder.
Let's see, last time was almost 20 years ago. We've had a huge increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. Just now we're seeing an increase? Could it have simply been a statistical high? Of course not, they've been waiting 20 years for this "Proof" in spite of predictions over a decade ago.
What do you call that? Whatever it is, it's not science. There is no hypothesis, there is no experiment showing CO2 is the actual cause. If there were, we surely would have seen it by now.
Think I'm wrong - show me. Show me where they PROVE using the scientific method that CO2 is causing GW and this is not a natural occurrence. I can show over thousands of years this is natural. Ice/melt/ice/melt... We WILL be going into an ice age geologically speaking - "Soon".
Nothing to see here. This was a "front door," not a "back door."
It's ok. We put a password on the account. We're not stupid, it's not Password. Ours is far more secure. It's qwerty. Just a bunch of random characters.
Joke is probably on me, watch someone use that as an excuse sometime.
Eisenhower? You probably mistook him for Johnson. Eisenhower was probably the best of the 20th century. Clearly in the top 5 of all time. I was surprised to find out how much he did. How much we still benefit from him today. Johnson of course was a dumbass, so much so even he realized it. So he didn't run for a second term.
Since ESXi is based on the Linux kernel, is it also affected? VMWare is TERRIBLE about patches and security updates, so I have to wonder how many months will pass before this is fixed, if it is an issue.
AC - you should know what you're talking about. Obviously you have no clue. I've been using it for years and they update all the time. It's easy to patch. I also have the free home version. Same story. Easy to patch. Just because you never bothered to look doesn't mean it's true.
TMI was much ado over nothing. There's more radiation released from a typical coal plant at that time in one day than was sent out via the accident at TMI. If the dumbass working the reactor left it alone, it would have never happened in the first place.
That's a pretty big bag of hot air. Just imagine if their version of Hilary made it! She's got at least twice the hot air after doing so much sucking over the years.
> Don't use it [FreeBSD] for a real server. It's simply not up to the task in the way a modern Linux kernel is.
Does Netflix know this?
Heh... funny you should ask. I signed up for netflix yesterday. From their site and offerings I think it's a captain obvious moment to say - Nope! They seem to be a business in trouble.
I didn't see anything that I wanted to watch. Simpsons - nope, goldrush - nope...(repeat ad nauseum)
Do they have any educational content? Elementary Latin, for example?
I'd keep it for a while if they had that, starting spanish, starting french, starting chinese... something like that. Yes. We looked online for what they carried. Didn't get too far. Figured well we'll just subscribe. First month is free after all. Then I sat there on the couch with my phone for a LONG time looking for something, anything that I'd want to watch. Lucky my life didn't depend on it, eh?
Well maybe I expected too much. After all, it's just $10/month.
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Great. We will use the UAH version 5.6 since you do not trust the surface station record. (6.x is currently in beta and changing too often to make any predictions with). The data can be found here: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/pu... - see the "Globe" column. In the event that UAH5.6 is no longer available we will need to defer to the RSS satellite reconstruction. The data for rss can be found here: http://woodfortrees.org/data/r...
What's all this? Either it is or it's not. If it is, I'm sure it'll be all over the news. This isn't that hard. Let's not make it hard. Heard me laugh? Well you'd be right. I think this is the first time someone has used something from Alabama to prove their point. While I don't want to belittle them or anything, they aren't exactly known for being at the forefront. Woodfortrees.org? Now if I used a site like these I'd have a feeling it would be a conspiracy site or something.
I think I have an advantage in that you appear to get your science reporting from conspiracy websites. I could be wrong, but based on previous comments I believe it to be the case.
Ok, apparently I flew right over you like a 747 at altitude. Maybe Jim's article will enlighten you - http://www.giss.nasa.gov/resea... ? Here he admits the 1930s was warmer. While I'm sure if you read it you'll be like - eh? What's the big deal, this really was a big deal. Note that he was also wrong in his prediction about the 2000s.
Conspiracy web sites? That just doesn't even make sense why you would say that. This is to be expected in my case, I've been doing science, numbers and such for over 30 years. I have a feeling you're new to this. Look back, say over the past couple of hundred thousand years. Look back over the past 10,000 years. You'll understand why Man isn't responsible if you do. You'll understand how they're lying to you. Understand this isn't a 5 or 10 minute thing. You'll be looking at this stuff for a while.
Maybe you meant something like this, with those crazy Astronaughts and scientists?
http://dailycaller.com/2016/01...
I know, I know, pay no attention to them (there is no man behind the curtain), right?
Time will tell :)
Heh, certainly will. However understand that even if there is an increase, a year doesn't prove the point. Right now they're trying to explain away the previous 15 years. Often by questionable means, such as the sea is much warmer - gee, where have we heard that before? Ever deal with liars and confidence men? I've run across men that can make people so confident that they can convince everyone that they're an attractive woman. Men that can lie with such a straight face and no feeling that they can say anything. They'll think nothing about cleaning out your bank account if you you give them a chance.
Never the less, I think I should reiterate that I think things are warming up. It's not due to man and that's clear. Clear to me at least.
Wow, could you run for President?
If you are not into earning easy money, then how about a gentleman's bet?
My goodness. You're still stuck on this?
So what's the bet? That 2016 will be warmer than 2015, is that your assertion? I'd like to make it clear it's not mine. I'm betting 2016 will not be warmer than 2015.
Besides, there's probably no way I'll ever find this next year, or even remember it. Might surprise you, I actually have a life. I figured when I pointed out that 2015 was a high water mark, you'd realize it would be very close to a fools bet to bet this year will be warmer than 2015. You either have no clue what you're doing (one might say you drank too much of the cool aid) or I have a feeling you think you know something I don't. I know there's a prediction of a two year cycle based on the Pacific water temperatures. That's not likely to get what you'll need to win this one. Just so you know. That's the thing with statistics. Even though something will almost certainly not happen, they happen sometimes.
However I am interested to know why you would think 2016 will be warmer and be so persistent about it. I find your signature line to be a bit ironic for that reason. I'm not that sure of myself. I have history to look at, I know the models are wrong from past experience, they've even admitted it. We also have likelyhood and probability. To me there's almost no question. The safe bet is 2016 will not be warmer than 2015.
If you want a taste of something similar go to Germany. Then try to do research on the number of Jews killed in the holocaust. If your research does not magically come out to 6 million you will quickly find yourself in jail, because it is specifically illegal to challenge the official story of the holocaust.
Wha? That's turned into a strange country. We had some German girls over on exchange, two different years. I was able to show them some real stuff from WWII, from Germany. Apparently none of that stuff is allowed over there. France seems to be up tight about it too. They shouldn't be putting people in jail over that stuff.
Maybe things will change once we hit 2045 as far as that goes.
Do you know who the most gullible person in the world is? That's right, it's yourself. Everyone can convince themselves of just about anything. Especially if it's food it seems.
I have a friend that is way overweight and I couldn't believe her. Came over and she had this bit monstrosity caramel cake from Safeway. Man I was gaining weight just looking at it. She said - go ahead, have a slice. Nobody will know.
I was like REALLY!?!?!?!? WTF is that thing even doing here? You need it like a hole in the head.
That was years ago. Today she still a big old woman, taking a drug store worth of drugs to keep her alive.
I lost about 100 Lbs on the HCG diet. The diet drops. Just follow the protocol, you can do it to. I feel so much better. I wish I could lose about 75 more Lbs. That would take me where they say you should be, which most people think is way to small.
Gotta love it, how to lie with statistics extended a bit. They chose their conspiracy carefully. We know earth is warming up. Has been for about 10,000 years. Just as the Venetians in Italy about it in the 14th century. They were trying to keep the Adriatic out even back then.
How about Man Made Global Warming is a hoax - now that's a hoax and we all know it. Have evidence against it - you're shunned out of the scientific community. Recently they even want to put you in jail if you don't believe - that's a very strong indication it's a hoax right there. When they know their science doesn't stand up, just put them in jail. We have a lot of history internationally to show that. It's like a slap in the face to everyone - wake up, it's a hoax. Yet true believers still believe. Pass the cool aid.
Bottom line is they can't show CO2 is causing it and they know it. We can show it's a symptom, and it is. Not the cause. Increased CO2 always follows global warming as we get more activity (duh). It's mother nature doing her thing, just as she always has.
Let's see how 2016 does. I bet it'll be back down.
How much?
It was rhetorical. I don't like a sure bet. Besides, I'm sure nobody would pay up if they lost anyway. I seem to have a difficult time collecting especially when the bet points out someone's stupidity, or they at least perceive it as stupidity because they drank the cool aid and believed someone else. Like someone betting that 2016 will be as hot or hotter than 2015. That's a stupid bet. Well they didn't really make the bet, Didn't shake, Didn't mean it, They don't remember the bet, or they didn't realize I was serious or some other complete BS.
Realize that statistically it's not that likely. By definition you're betting that it will match the highest water mark or exceed it in over a 100 years worth of records. If you believe the hype and you'd be very foolish to do that - high water mark of all time. Could happen. Not bloody likely. Probably about as likely as myself getting lucky with a Victoria's secret model. Sure, I own an airplane and fly into some of the most exclusive locations in the world and I've met a few of them that way (they look as delicious as they do in the catalog). However I know it won't happen.
Maybe you're talking about Mark's bet? http://wattsupwiththat.com/201... Check update 2. Sure, it's a sucker bet if you bet it'll be above the mean based on what we know. Of course, even he isn't going to bet that 2016 will be as hot or hotter than 2015. Only a fool would do that. However if I knew you, and you are serious, I'd bet you $10. I'd write it down on paper, you'd sign it too, then into my commercial grade safe. I'd come to collect my $10 next year. Understand it's to just prove a point. It's not worth my time to collect $10.
So how do you get the best deal, don't use solar city or the others?
Well it's Canada. Isn't 'nuff said?
Don't get me wrong, I love the Canadian people. They certainly could do it. However who wants to freeze their balls off in the winter? Then there's the holier than thou attitude of the Canadians. They don't seem to appreciate the US. At least that's how it sure feels whenever I've been up there or worked with IT workers from Canada. One guy had a head so big I'm not sure how his head fit through the door. I'd say he was about an average IT guy.
Lucky they didn't bet that the 1990s would be the warmest decade on record for the 20th century. It was the 1930s. I actually did that bet and initially I lost, until they discovered a NASA scientist cooked his figures.
Funny thing though, they finally got a hot year. Let's see how 2016 does. I bet it'll be back down.
Ha. Sounds like the unsinkable ship, the unbreakable database, etc.
Give me a 10 wheeler commercial type dump truck or a cement mixer truck. They wouldn't stand a chance.
Of course, it wouldn't take that much to defeat it. Too bad this is the last season of Mythbusters. This would be a good one for them to tear apart.
Oracle/Sun spent billions on Java, whereas Google spent almost nothing on the core technologies (Android = Linux + Java) that bring in over $30 billion a year. That is stealing.
For that kind of money Larry should be firing a lot of his incompetent java staff that keep adding band aids instead of fixing the underlying problems. That's why it's hacked over and over again, they don't fix the real problems. That's what's making it a POS.
Maybe I sound a bit bitter... I have to deal with Oracle. Security? Ha... Should call it wonder software. If it works, it's a wonder.
Let's see, last time was almost 20 years ago. We've had a huge increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. Just now we're seeing an increase? Could it have simply been a statistical high? Of course not, they've been waiting 20 years for this "Proof" in spite of predictions over a decade ago.
What do you call that? Whatever it is, it's not science. There is no hypothesis, there is no experiment showing CO2 is the actual cause. If there were, we surely would have seen it by now.
Think I'm wrong - show me. Show me where they PROVE using the scientific method that CO2 is causing GW and this is not a natural occurrence. I can show over thousands of years this is natural. Ice/melt/ice/melt... We WILL be going into an ice age geologically speaking - "Soon".
Nothing to see here. This was a "front door," not a "back door."
It's ok. We put a password on the account. We're not stupid, it's not Password. Ours is far more secure. It's qwerty. Just a bunch of random characters.
Joke is probably on me, watch someone use that as an excuse sometime.
Apple will be assembling productsin the US within 10 yrs, using robotics, but it won't help employment rates because it will all be robotics based.
US Robotics.
Hey, too easy to not use that joke (irobot..heh)
Already had close to that. It was hope and change.
Eisenhower? You probably mistook him for Johnson. Eisenhower was probably the best of the 20th century. Clearly in the top 5 of all time. I was surprised to find out how much he did. How much we still benefit from him today. Johnson of course was a dumbass, so much so even he realized it. So he didn't run for a second term.
Carter of course was the worst we've ever had.
Man, this is almost as old as prostitution. Twins switching with one another. How do we know that didn't happen?
No, there is no active exploit for this right now. It's all in theory.
Since ESXi is based on the Linux kernel, is it also affected? VMWare is TERRIBLE about patches and security updates, so I have to wonder how many months will pass before this is fixed, if it is an issue.
AC - you should know what you're talking about. Obviously you have no clue. I've been using it for years and they update all the time. It's easy to patch. I also have the free home version. Same story. Easy to patch. Just because you never bothered to look doesn't mean it's true.
6. Install FreeBSD 10. Now the problem is completely fixed.
And replaced by a whole new set of problems. Problems solved long ago under Linux.
TMI was much ado over nothing. There's more radiation released from a typical coal plant at that time in one day than was sent out via the accident at TMI. If the dumbass working the reactor left it alone, it would have never happened in the first place.
That's a pretty big bag of hot air. Just imagine if their version of Hilary made it! She's got at least twice the hot air after doing so much sucking over the years.
> Don't use it [FreeBSD] for a real server. It's simply not up to the task in the way a modern Linux kernel is.
Does Netflix know this?
Heh... funny you should ask. I signed up for netflix yesterday. From their site and offerings I think it's a captain obvious moment to say - Nope! They seem to be a business in trouble.
Do they have any educational content? Elementary Latin, for example?
I'd keep it for a while if they had that, starting spanish, starting french, starting chinese... something like that. Yes.
We looked online for what they carried. Didn't get too far. Figured well we'll just subscribe. First month is free after all. Then I sat there on the couch with my phone for a LONG time looking for something, anything that I'd want to watch. Lucky my life didn't depend on it, eh?
Well maybe I expected too much. After all, it's just $10/month.