That was the first picture they released with the outputs. They did remove one of the gigabit networking ports since it was a feature that few people seemed interested in. However, you claim they "lied" about their specs.
The only fabrication of facts I'm seeing is in your post.
I've owned two HDTVs for a while, and neither where that expensive.
I cherish the nice HD broadcasts of sporting events, Lost, House, etc. (Lost and House are the only two shows I must watch every week).
However, if we're talking about purchasing a HD-DVD player or Blu-Ray, then it is assumed you will be putting HD-DVD or Blu-Ray movies into the thing and you are getting a 720p or 1080p picture from the movie. So, we're not talking about upscaling and then downscaling. We're talking about defeating the entire purpose of paying extra solely for the higher resolution.
I believe the main driving need behind purchasing HDTVs in the near future is going to be video games. Sadly, there are still very few HDTV channels, and new movie formats take a few years to become mainstream. But the 360 kiosk in Wal-mart, Best Buy and the like is a tangible need today to buy a HDTV.
Actually, Sony said that the PS3 would be a complete media center.
Given that they will not only ship with Linux, but support homebrew content, have games, an online service, an iTunes like music shop, games, and hi-def movies, I don't see how they have failed to deliver on that promise.
If neither version of the PS3 had HDMI (like the XBox 360) then you could berate Sony for not supporting their standard. However, given this new announcement, HDMI may not be that necessary. At least Sony gives the option if you want it.
The $500 version suddenly looks considerably more reasonable, and those who are worried about being future-proof have their option.
What I don't understand is why Sony didn't explain this calmly rather than insist that $500-$600 isn't expensive. They pissed a lot of people off with their attitude and how they handled the issue. With the PSP they said "this is what you will pay, and we don't have to sell you. You're going to pay it because we said so."
Sony makes sexy hardware. They just need to borrow some of Apple's advertising-mojo now.
Sony still has time to recover from this big faux-paus with a good advertising campaign before launch. Microsoft was smart to give the units away at launch with a big Pepsi promotion.
Plenty of people were twisting caps and envisioning the possibility of owning a 360. Establishing the concept of ownership is a HUGE part of marketing and sales. I have no doubt Sony will eventually deliver a solid lineup of titles and some impressive hardware.
Can they turn around the market's current perception of them? I'm rather curious to see.
Pearl Jam was the biggest band on the planet when they decided to fight Ticketmaster. Years later, they had to cave because it was the only way for them to tour in places where their fans can see them.
It is sad that we allow a monopoly like this to dictate whatever terms they want. How is this remotely a free market?
It doesn't solve anything remotely. There will be PC Blu-Ray and HD-DVD drives, and people will take the raw data from the discs and pirate hi-def movies that way. They're not going to "capture" and pirate via DVI.
The whole purpose of the tag is to force people to buy new hardware, plain and simple.
The low-end PS3 still puts out 1080p both in movies and games. However, without HDMI there is no guarantee the tag won't come into play. Certain movie companies can force downsampling in the movie.
The XBox 360 won't support 1080p period, and has no HDMI, period. The 360 is all about 720p.
The Wii hasn't promised any HD support at all. However, considering the Gamecube could put out a 480p image, I expect 480p from the Wii, and MAYBE 720p on some games, but I doubt it.
I'm just playing devil's advocate. I like people to have the facts.
But Pearl Jam will tell you that the extra money won't go to the artist. If that ticket sells for $1,000 I bet a big chunk of that extra money (if not all) will go to Ticketmaster.
It's the same thing as the RIAA screaming about stealing money from artists, when the artists are being robbed by their record companies regardless of MP3 downloads.
By blame-shifting, the industry feels like they can convince the world that they're not the crooks.
If you shell out $500-$1,500 today for an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player, then I think you're going to be pretty pissed to only get 540p when a $50 DVD player can put out 480p. The entire reason you shelled out the big bucks was to get the higher resolutions, and down-sampling is pretty screwed up.
Can you imagine buying a $100,000 sports car and having a regulator that won't let you use half the cylinders in the engine? I don't see why you defend this practice.
I think laptops can be desktop replacements for the casual computer user, so I'm certainly glad to see a basic upgrade path. Laptop HDDs, memory, processors, PCI cards, video cards, etc. are all becoming more and more common.
If nothing else, I'm sure in the corporate world this will help out a great deal. We have a shit-ton of P3 laptops in our corporation with 256 megs of memory. Getting them to run XP is a pain, though it can be done. It is just very slow.
The ability to upgrade the memory continued to give this laptops a use.
I can't tell you the number of computers I repair that don't even have a password set on the admin account itself. Most users don't know this account even exists. Even if you use a non-admin account, many hackers use the password-less Admin account itself.
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This is just an example that future-proof technology exists today, and can be had for cheap. I'm saddened to see both the cheap version of the PS3 and the 360 crippled without HDMI, but now the tag won't get used until 2010, and perhaps never. I feel a lot more comfortable about the $500 PS3 now honestly, and in 2010 if I need to buy another PS3, they should be in the $200 range or less by then.
Either I pay the scalper, or I pay Ticketmaster. What is the real difference?
The only thing that would piss me off that I worry about is the person who doesn't buy their tickets the second it is online. They miss the auction, and so they have to pay an inflated value even well above what the ticket went for in the auction.
Effectively, the scalpers would be paying more to get their tickets, and those who snooze really have to pay.
The rumors are that Google has been interested in this for a while, which is why Microsoft has been rolling this out.
Other companies do Remote Desktop Hosting, and this isn't that much of an a stretch from that.
I'm not sure what is different between dropping down a terminal window and typing into that rather than typing into the text editor and then clicking that?
It sounds neat on paper, but would it actually save you time?
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Not only did I have to dig to understand what the story was about, I'm still not entirely sure.
So, a text editor existed for a very small niche operating system. There already were unofficial ports if you really wanted it. After reading the Wiki page, I'm not entirely sure what makes this text editor special.
But now there is a LEGAL port for Linux users. Great.
That's all we need is another text editor to argue over.
Nope. I didn't assume that at all. I asked a question that no one wants to answer. I also stated clearly that I'm pro-evolution. Since I believe that we are missing a key piece to the puzzle, you assume that I believe in creatures magically appearing.
This is amazingly simple and no one seems to get it.
Either you say that humans evolved culture for a reason and then I retort "why did no one else on the planet in all of history do the same?"
Most people however respond that ants didn't evolve culture because there is no reason to. Then I retort, "then why did we?"
Clearly there is an unanswered question no one wants to answer. Because I question what is commonly accepted I've been called an idiot here, but isn't the point of science to hypothesis and question?
What need would arise that would necessitate art and culture?
And ants have had roughly 3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times the population of humans over the course of history. That is 3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 more opportunities than humans to develop such things. Now take a number like that and multiply it times all other species on Earth.
You're telling me that only one species on this entire planet ever developed art and culture?
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You keep referring to the "tard-box" over and over again, but you insist it costs $600. Your bias is showing.
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The so called "tard-box" costs $500. Get your facts straight. And I don't believe Sony ever once promised dual HDMI outputs.
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That was the first picture they released with the outputs. They did remove one of the gigabit networking ports since it was a feature that few people seemed interested in. However, you claim they "lied" about their specs.
The only fabrication of facts I'm seeing is in your post.
I've owned two HDTVs for a while, and neither where that expensive.
I cherish the nice HD broadcasts of sporting events, Lost, House, etc. (Lost and House are the only two shows I must watch every week).
However, if we're talking about purchasing a HD-DVD player or Blu-Ray, then it is assumed you will be putting HD-DVD or Blu-Ray movies into the thing and you are getting a 720p or 1080p picture from the movie. So, we're not talking about upscaling and then downscaling. We're talking about defeating the entire purpose of paying extra solely for the higher resolution.
I believe the main driving need behind purchasing HDTVs in the near future is going to be video games. Sadly, there are still very few HDTV channels, and new movie formats take a few years to become mainstream. But the 360 kiosk in Wal-mart, Best Buy and the like is a tangible need today to buy a HDTV.
Actually, Sony said that the PS3 would be a complete media center. Given that they will not only ship with Linux, but support homebrew content, have games, an online service, an iTunes like music shop, games, and hi-def movies, I don't see how they have failed to deliver on that promise. If neither version of the PS3 had HDMI (like the XBox 360) then you could berate Sony for not supporting their standard. However, given this new announcement, HDMI may not be that necessary. At least Sony gives the option if you want it. The $500 version suddenly looks considerably more reasonable, and those who are worried about being future-proof have their option. What I don't understand is why Sony didn't explain this calmly rather than insist that $500-$600 isn't expensive. They pissed a lot of people off with their attitude and how they handled the issue. With the PSP they said "this is what you will pay, and we don't have to sell you. You're going to pay it because we said so." Sony makes sexy hardware. They just need to borrow some of Apple's advertising-mojo now. Sony still has time to recover from this big faux-paus with a good advertising campaign before launch. Microsoft was smart to give the units away at launch with a big Pepsi promotion. Plenty of people were twisting caps and envisioning the possibility of owning a 360. Establishing the concept of ownership is a HUGE part of marketing and sales. I have no doubt Sony will eventually deliver a solid lineup of titles and some impressive hardware. Can they turn around the market's current perception of them? I'm rather curious to see.
Pearl Jam was the biggest band on the planet when they decided to fight Ticketmaster. Years later, they had to cave because it was the only way for them to tour in places where their fans can see them.
It is sad that we allow a monopoly like this to dictate whatever terms they want. How is this remotely a free market?
It doesn't solve anything remotely. There will be PC Blu-Ray and HD-DVD drives, and people will take the raw data from the discs and pirate hi-def movies that way. They're not going to "capture" and pirate via DVI.
The whole purpose of the tag is to force people to buy new hardware, plain and simple.
The low-end PS3 still puts out 1080p both in movies and games. However, without HDMI there is no guarantee the tag won't come into play. Certain movie companies can force downsampling in the movie.
The XBox 360 won't support 1080p period, and has no HDMI, period. The 360 is all about 720p.
The Wii hasn't promised any HD support at all. However, considering the Gamecube could put out a 480p image, I expect 480p from the Wii, and MAYBE 720p on some games, but I doubt it.
I'm just playing devil's advocate. I like people to have the facts.
But Pearl Jam will tell you that the extra money won't go to the artist. If that ticket sells for $1,000 I bet a big chunk of that extra money (if not all) will go to Ticketmaster.
It's the same thing as the RIAA screaming about stealing money from artists, when the artists are being robbed by their record companies regardless of MP3 downloads.
By blame-shifting, the industry feels like they can convince the world that they're not the crooks.
If you shell out $500-$1,500 today for an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player, then I think you're going to be pretty pissed to only get 540p when a $50 DVD player can put out 480p. The entire reason you shelled out the big bucks was to get the higher resolutions, and down-sampling is pretty screwed up.
Can you imagine buying a $100,000 sports car and having a regulator that won't let you use half the cylinders in the engine? I don't see why you defend this practice.
I think laptops can be desktop replacements for the casual computer user, so I'm certainly glad to see a basic upgrade path. Laptop HDDs, memory, processors, PCI cards, video cards, etc. are all becoming more and more common.
If nothing else, I'm sure in the corporate world this will help out a great deal. We have a shit-ton of P3 laptops in our corporation with 256 megs of memory. Getting them to run XP is a pain, though it can be done. It is just very slow.
The ability to upgrade the memory continued to give this laptops a use.
I can't tell you the number of computers I repair that don't even have a password set on the admin account itself. Most users don't know this account even exists. Even if you use a non-admin account, many hackers use the password-less Admin account itself.
http://www.secondact.biz/product.aspx?productid=HL -R5078W
This is just an example that future-proof technology exists today, and can be had for cheap. I'm saddened to see both the cheap version of the PS3 and the 360 crippled without HDMI, but now the tag won't get used until 2010, and perhaps never. I feel a lot more comfortable about the $500 PS3 now honestly, and in 2010 if I need to buy another PS3, they should be in the $200 range or less by then.
Either I pay the scalper, or I pay Ticketmaster. What is the real difference? The only thing that would piss me off that I worry about is the person who doesn't buy their tickets the second it is online. They miss the auction, and so they have to pay an inflated value even well above what the ticket went for in the auction. Effectively, the scalpers would be paying more to get their tickets, and those who snooze really have to pay.
The rumors are that Google has been interested in this for a while, which is why Microsoft has been rolling this out. Other companies do Remote Desktop Hosting, and this isn't that much of an a stretch from that.
The federal government said that bloggers aren't real journalists. So, I guess they won't get prosecuted!
I'm not sure what is different between dropping down a terminal window and typing into that rather than typing into the text editor and then clicking that?
It sounds neat on paper, but would it actually save you time?
Not only did I have to dig to understand what the story was about, I'm still not entirely sure.
So, a text editor existed for a very small niche operating system. There already were unofficial ports if you really wanted it. After reading the Wiki page, I'm not entirely sure what makes this text editor special.
But now there is a LEGAL port for Linux users. Great.
That's all we need is another text editor to argue over.
Nope. I didn't assume that at all. I asked a question that no one wants to answer. I also stated clearly that I'm pro-evolution. Since I believe that we are missing a key piece to the puzzle, you assume that I believe in creatures magically appearing.
Please fucking read before responding next time.
We're talking simple logic here. I don't want to make 50 redundant posts. Please refer to this response.
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It's just random?
That's a cop-out to a serious question and I'm calling bull-shit.
This is amazingly simple and no one seems to get it.
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Either you say that humans evolved culture for a reason and then I retort "why did no one else on the planet in all of history do the same?"
Most people however respond that ants didn't evolve culture because there is no reason to. Then I retort, "then why did we?"
Clearly there is an unanswered question no one wants to answer. Because I question what is commonly accepted I've been called an idiot here, but isn't the point of science to hypothesis and question?
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=18608
You're arguing my point for me. Along the very same logic there is no reason for humans to develop these traits.
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=186087 &cid=15358250
Regardless of the means of evolution, it is statistically relevant that with all the species in the entirety of history, only one has developed these traits.
But it did help humans survive better?
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How does that work?
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=18608
What need would arise that would necessitate art and culture?
And ants have had roughly 3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times the population of humans over the course of history. That is 3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 more opportunities than humans to develop such things. Now take a number like that and multiply it times all other species on Earth.
You're telling me that only one species on this entire planet ever developed art and culture?
And that isn't statistically relevant? Seriously?