Re:Not being trollish, but... you do seem to be
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Opera 8 Released
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Having tried Firefox, and having used Opera for a long time, I'd definitely stay with...
Opera!
... almost everyone I know uses Firefox or IE (yuck), or even Mozilla.
You need to get a more diverse group of friends;-)
As for me, I will NOT switch to Opera.
Well, that's fine. Opera isn't for every one. It's certainly not for people who don't use the web at all.;-) The casual web user would also not be greatly advantaged by using Opera. As for me, I will continue to use FireFox, Links, Amaya, Maxthon and (from time to time) MS IE. My browser of choice will remain Opera.
I agree wholeheartedly. The de facto use of IE as "how the web should work" is a major pain, especially when IE does it WRONG. There, I feel better.
I actually agree with this Langa character, albeit out of context: There are no panaceas!.
He is correct, but I'm not sure who it is that is proffering FireFox as a cure to all your web browsing issues. (Now a real panacea would be useful.;-)
Seriously, I think the author falls short of his stated intention of comparing MS IE and FF.
One thing he misses is that when he brings in the "large number" stuff (which he brings up) is that the prevalence of IE means that each of the vulnerabilities in the more popular browser (regardless of which that may be) are available on more machines than for the less "popular" one. As IE is available on (basically) every Windows desktop, a single vuln in IE is multiplied by that large number. (Thanks to MS incorporating an application into the operating system libraries.) [And no, I'm advocating comparing the raw number of vulnerabilities out there as a measure of the comparitive security of one browser over the others.]
Oh yes, I don't see the $#!+ on Yahoo! either, thanks to proxomitron.
Now we can get the production quality of The StarLost. (For those that haven't seen the show, don't bother. For other starlost fans, I'm afraid it'll never fly again, even from the backup bridge.) (more)
Anyway... I'd love to see this happen, particularly if T'Pol were in town during shooting. Would there be any way for 7 of 9 to make a Borg cross-over episode? (Seeing that the show has already jumped the shark, it could happen. Imagine them allowing the engineer to have sex, and in the first season, even.)
For that matter, you can turn off images in most other browsers, even IE. (And FF and Opera and...) And turn off javascript, popups (now),... and other standard web advertisment combat.
I don't read the advertising in the papers, don't watch it on tv unless there's a reason (wife wanting me to do something, nearly naked women in commercial, etc.) and ignore ads elsewhere. Am I really breaking some kind of contract I haven't agreed to? (Isn't that rather counter to the point of a contract - an agreement between two parties - as I recall from my business law class.)
What peaves me is adverts in the movie theatre - they are charging me to go and watch their commercials. (That might be more of a "social contract" issue than adblock or web filtering.)
Well, as a web viewer, I have to ask - "why do you need to use cookies and javascript?"
If I want to browse with Lynx, and miss your fancy graphics and stuff, Why. Do. You. Care?
Why do you need to know that I spend 94.3% of my time on/., particularly when you also (think you) know my employer? (If I have/. open in a tab in the background all day... what does that prove?)
I don't know what sites you've developed, but I think that, in general, web developers are too demanding of their viewers.
Yes, I am disgruntled by not being the first to reference Space: 1999.
However, the space.com site has some unusual phrasing that makes me wonder whether this is a real site or a prank... "Where the Sun shines and where it doesn't"... "the sun's belly"...
Of course on the Moon, the lunar overlords welcome you.
Not really. It might have been at one time, but basically owning the browser scene for so long made it lethargic in comparison to newer browsers. (Or even Links.)
If you're just looking for benchmarks, I'm sure you can find instances where IE is fast(er) than another browser, but it's also likely the other way around.
Unless you really DO mean SoaB terms. Or if you are one of those that believe it is the only web browser.
Or the fact that women can remember where they downloaded the FF binary to on their computer, and us guys can't remember where we put our pants last night. (Hon, have you seen... ?)
Okay, so I'm new here, but can't the whole bloddy article be modded down? Everybody has jumped on it about the misleading (incorrect? absolutely false?) quote on the teaser, the fact that it's a duplicate posting (or at least a referential posting - a/. article about an article about a/. article), and then the postings wander offtopic.
While I have been using the Opera popup blocker for some time, I find that it's {easier / better / more portable / other reason here} to use a filtering proxy (e.g. proxomitron or similar).
They are one stop shopping for blocking the junk that clutters the web.
Interesting... "A right can not be taken away". I believe that the Yanks have something about "life liberty and pursuit of happiness" as rights, but liberty is routinely taken away when a felon is incarcerated. (Which IMHO is a GoodThing [TM].)
The removal of happiness by governments is usually evidenced around Tax Time;-)
Well, unless of course someone else does another one.
Why can't they outlaw April Fool's things on the internet? I rather enjoyed the RFC's in the old days (Pigeons HAH!) and the new Klingon thing, but it's really getting tired.
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F11 work for you?
Opera!
You need to get a more diverse group of friends ;-)
As for me, I will NOT switch to Opera.
Well, that's fine. Opera isn't for every one. It's certainly not for people who don't use the web at all. ;-) The casual web user would also not be greatly advantaged by using Opera. As for me, I will continue to use FireFox, Links, Amaya, Maxthon and (from time to time) MS IE. My browser of choice will remain Opera.
(Hey, do you know if it's inhabited or not?)
I actually agree with this Langa character, albeit out of context: There are no panaceas!.
He is correct, but I'm not sure who it is that is proffering FireFox as a cure to all your web browsing issues. (Now a real panacea would be useful. ;-)
Seriously, I think the author falls short of his stated intention of comparing MS IE and FF.
One thing he misses is that when he brings in the "large number" stuff (which he brings up) is that the prevalence of IE means that each of the vulnerabilities in the more popular browser (regardless of which that may be) are available on more machines than for the less "popular" one. As IE is available on (basically) every Windows desktop, a single vuln in IE is multiplied by that large number. (Thanks to MS incorporating an application into the operating system libraries.) [And no, I'm advocating comparing the raw number of vulnerabilities out there as a measure of the comparitive security of one browser over the others.]
Oh yes, I don't see the $#!+ on Yahoo! either, thanks to proxomitron.
It would be ironic to have it all done off-planet, wouldn't it.
Now we can get the production quality of The StarLost. (For those that haven't seen the show, don't bother. For other starlost fans, I'm afraid it'll never fly again, even from the backup bridge.) (more)
Anyway ... I'd love to see this happen, particularly if T'Pol were in town during shooting. Would there be any way for 7 of 9 to make a Borg cross-over episode? (Seeing that the show has already jumped the shark, it could happen. Imagine them allowing the engineer to have sex, and in the first season, even.)
Come on up, Enterprise. Live long and prosper in the great white north.
I don't read the advertising in the papers, don't watch it on tv unless there's a reason (wife wanting me to do something, nearly naked women in commercial, etc.) and ignore ads elsewhere. Am I really breaking some kind of contract I haven't agreed to? (Isn't that rather counter to the point of a contract - an agreement between two parties - as I recall from my business law class.)
What peaves me is adverts in the movie theatre - they are charging me to go and watch their commercials. (That might be more of a "social contract" issue than adblock or web filtering.)
Unnh. I think you mean three rights make a left. Still stupid and senseless, but at least more accurate. (And that's what we strive for on /.)
You've confused the number "200" with the phrase "not a single one"
If I want to browse with Lynx, and miss your fancy graphics and stuff, Why. Do. You. Care?
Why do you need to know that I spend 94.3% of my time on /., particularly when you also (think you) know my employer? (If I have /. open in a tab in the background all day ... what does that prove?)
I don't know what sites you've developed, but I think that, in general, web developers are too demanding of their viewers.
However, the space.com site has some unusual phrasing that makes me wonder whether this is a real site or a prank ... "Where the Sun shines and where it doesn't" ... "the sun's belly" ...
Of course on the Moon, the lunar overlords welcome you.
Yeah, it's one of the best things they swiped from VMS.
Not really. It might have been at one time, but basically owning the browser scene for so long made it lethargic in comparison to newer browsers. (Or even Links.)
If you're just looking for benchmarks, I'm sure you can find instances where IE is fast(er) than another browser, but it's also likely the other way around.
Unless you really DO mean SoaB terms. Or if you are one of those that believe it is the only web browser.
It's the same guys reloading stuff.
Okay, so I'm new here, but can't the whole bloddy article be modded down? Everybody has jumped on it about the misleading (incorrect? absolutely false?) quote on the teaser, the fact that it's a duplicate posting (or at least a referential posting - a /. article about an article about a /. article), and then the postings wander offtopic.
They are one stop shopping for blocking the junk that clutters the web.
The removal of happiness by governments is usually evidenced around Tax Time ;-)
"Here is a circle, with its diameter:"
Sorry
Why can't they outlaw April Fool's things on the internet? I rather enjoyed the RFC's in the old days (Pigeons HAH!) and the new Klingon thing, but it's really getting tired.
Looking forward to tomorrow ...
Hey! Oh, okay, I guess you're right. If I could see my feet, I'm probably not wearing shoes now.
Like SPAM
Hmmm deep fried spam ...
Users. PEBKAC is the real enemy.
Not any more! Thank you, MicroSoft lawyers. (Oh oh - now I'm going to be kicked off slashd
Prenez-la avec soin. Je suis canadien, mon frere.