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Blogs Latest Source of PC Infection

smooth wombat writes "The BBC has a story which indicates that filtering firm Websense believes at least 200 fake blogs are in existence which have malicious code that could infect your pc. Websense said it had seen examples of some computer criminals creating a legitimate looking weblog, loading it with keylogging software or viral code, and then sending out the address of it through instant messenger or spam e-mail. Websense warned that viruses hosted on weblogs might be a danger because they get round the filtering systems many firms have created to ensure malicious programs do not reach employees." From the article: "In separate cases some blogs were being used as storage lockers holding chunks of malicious code that the controller of a network of zombie machines wants those remotely-controlled computers to use."

170 comments

  1. Websense == Bad by maotx · · Score: 5, Funny
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    I'm a virgo and on Slashdot. Coincidence? Yes.
    1. Re:Websense == Bad by Stick_Fig · · Score: 4, Funny

      Who wants to take a bet that Websense is making this up just to ban blogs?

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      ShortFormBlog: Writing a little. Saying a lot.
    2. Re:Websense == Bad by bcmm · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, yes.

      At my Sixth Form, Websense will sometimes give the catagory of banned page as "Alternative Journals", a bit more questionable than the "Bad taste" catagory.

      --
      # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama
      Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
    3. Re:Websense == Bad by justforaday · · Score: 2, Funny

      Too bad I can't see the site...

      Your organization's Internet use policy restricts access to this web page at this time.

      Reason:

      The Websense category "Tasteless" is filtered.

      --
      I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
    4. Re:Websense == Bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got the same thing. Websenseless is a POS. We have one administrator for Websense (no backup) and he has a Napoleon complex. It sucks.

    5. Re:Websense == Bad by Skrekkur · · Score: 1

      true

    6. Re:Websense == Bad by bcmm · · Score: 1

      No! Not "Funny", mods! This is actually true. There is also a catagory called "Gay and Lesbian interest" which blocks not porn (that's a seperate catagory), but support groups, helplines, etc. Could be grounds to accuse a school of discrimination (this is in the UK where we don't have a large lobby of people who want them all locked up BTW).

      --
      # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama
      Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
  2. Beyond my understanding by PinkX · · Score: 2, Informative

    How could a blog site - or whatever kind of site for that matter - host and run keylogging software?

    1. Re:Beyond my understanding by bersl2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Storage space + bandwidth + gullable users: that's all anyone needs to do this.

    2. Re:Beyond my understanding by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      Bingo!

      Would you not want to click on something like "Do not click here."?

    3. Re:Beyond my understanding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Wow is that site chock full of viruses. I think I can see a couple of trojans in there too.

    4. Re:Beyond my understanding by Freexe · · Score: 5, Insightful
      If you like to make a post please enter:

      username:_________

      password:_________


      Thank you, I'm sure you use the same username/password for all your accounts and now i have access! HAHAHA

      --
      "In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
    5. Re:Beyond my understanding by bcmm · · Score: 1

      If you use IE, visiting websites does tend to involve installation of various peices of software.

      --
      # cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i llama
      Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
    6. Re:Beyond my understanding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had 512 llamas in my RAM---no kidding.

    7. Re:Beyond my understanding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This site has been restricted

      Because it may conflict with the Acceptable Use Policy of the Toronto Catholic District Schoolboard. Please
      consult the complete text of the policy.

      Wow, so we see websense is good for something after all! It protects us all from pictures of goatse! Until early this year they never blocked sites accessed through googles cache or archive.org; they've caught on. Freecache is also blocked. furl.net seems to work okay for things you need to read, though. Just ad the url and then view your copy from within the archive.

      Posted AC for obvious reasons.

    8. Re:Beyond my understanding by The+Ultimate+Fartkno · · Score: 2, Funny

      What do you expect when there's a back door like *that* on your site?

    9. Re:Beyond my understanding by cgreuter · · Score: 1

      How could a blog site - or whatever kind of site for that matter - host and run keylogging software?

      It has nothing to do with blogs themselves. Websense is just trying to cash in on the sudden popularity of blogs. The problem is with any free web hosting service.

      When crackers subvert systems using browser exploits, they have to host those exploits on a web page. Since web hosting is inherently traceable--the hosting company has to have your payment details--this is tricky to do without getting caught. However, free hosting sites like Geocities et. al. make it easy to host web pages anonymously.

      Your typical cracker signs up with one of those hosting companies using a bogus name and address, then puts up a page full of exploits and tries to trick people into visiting that page. If the hosting company notices and takes it down, the cracker just does it again.

      Presumably, the various free blogging sites out there can be abused in a similar way and it sounds a whole lot better for Websense to talk about a new thing than a problem that's existed for a decade or so. Of course, the public blogging sites ought to be that much easier to lock down just because they're structured web services. A generic web hosting site needs to let its users install their own ActiveX controls and Javascript but a blog doesn't.

      In conclusion, it is my opinion that Websense are being grandstanding media whores.

    10. Re:Beyond my understanding by PinkX · · Score: 1

      You made an absolutely good point there. But the article made it sound like, if you could visit some malign blog site and it would automagically start keylogging all of your activity. It certainly is paraphrased that way in a marketing attempt to exploit the popularity of blogs between not so tech-savvy users.

      Regards,

    11. Re:Beyond my understanding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ie based exploits.

      you could get the same type of stuff from porn sites etc etc etc

  3. Other than Corporations.. by Digital+Warfare · · Score: 1, Insightful

    .. I couldn't give a crap about the General Public's blogs, so I don't view them.
    I guess its bored Housewives that get caught by the virii

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    "Sweet llamas of the Bahamas !"
    1. Re:Other than Corporations.. by lottameez · · Score: 4, Funny

      According to the emails *I* get, bored housewives are not looking at blogs at all. They'd much rather meet with me when their husbands are out of town. (this internet thing is *really* something)

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      Yeah? Well I think you're overrated too.
    2. Re:Other than Corporations.. by Slashcrap · · Score: 4, Funny

      According to the emails *I* get, bored housewives are not looking at blogs at all. They'd much rather meet with me when their husbands are out of town.

      What? You get those too?

      I though it was just my hot cock they were after.

      I'm feeling rather depressed all of a sudden.

    3. Re:Other than Corporations.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I guess its bored Housewives that get caught by the virii"

      It's viruses, not virii. http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/ plural-of-virus.html

    4. Re:Other than Corporations.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, unfortunately they want you to fix the roof, take out the trash and all the other stuff that their husbands don't do...

  4. So... by Skye16 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So basically they're saying there are now webpages that exist to infect your computer with malicious code through various browser security holes? Huh. Imagine that. I never would have thought that to be possible.

    Dot dot dot.

    1. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Java Applets. Norton have caught a few viruses for me while surfing (even with FireFox). It migth be a security hole that Java have fixed by now.

    2. Re:So... by Pac · · Score: 2, Funny

      I, for one, think this security guys are too paranoid. Next they will say the innocent attachments strangers keep sending me in my email messages will harm my computer. What about having some faith in people's good intentions?

    3. Re:So... by Jakeypants · · Score: 1

      I think these new blogs are a welcome change to every other blog about how amazing Linkin Park is, your sweet new nautical star tattoos, lip piercings, and your favorite new songs from Falling Stars Forever Skies Burning Dying Daylight, etc.

    4. Re:So... by Cut'n+Paste · · Score: 1

      I wonder what Jonathan Schwartz is blogging about today.

      ... Solaris 10 now downloading

  5. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... as if the fact they're largely written by self-important bores wasn't reason enough to avoid blogs and bloggers.

    1. Re:Wow by orangesquid · · Score: 2, Funny

      People? I thought they were written by computer programs!

      Seriously, I thought were already some form of worm. User surfs web, is infected by code. Code signs up for an account under the user's name and starts posting lots of "omg lol w00t" garbage intermixed with copies of itself. I mean, nobody really WRITES like that, right? It HAS to be some sort of glitch...

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      --TheOrangeSquid Is it any wonder things seem so awry? We swim in a sea of confusion and don't have to think to survive
  6. Suppression by tankenator · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is this really the case, are is it yet another attempt by corporations to subtly supress their employee's reading habits???

    1. re: suppression by ed.han · · Score: 1

      well, notice the conflicting numbers of sites: websense claims to have found "hundreds", while later in the article, specify that it's now over 200. WTF? i mean, i know that literally, 201 constitutes "hundreds", but c'mon, that isn't normal usage of "hundreds".

      that said: it's basically browser vulnerabilities. if you aren't patching & updating virus definitions, you're SOL anyway.

      ed

    2. Re:Suppression by alnjmshntr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I would say it's another attempt by Websense to sell more product. Haven't we seen this all before from Symantec/Mcafee et al, scaring the masses into buying their product?

      --
      If I had created the world I wouldn't have messed about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers
    3. Re:Suppression by OhPlz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seems more like a case of the BBC trying to publish an article with a buzzword in it.

      A responsible journal would have gone on to say that any web site, not just a blog, could potentially attempt the same sort of behavior. This isn't anything new and has nothing much at all to do with blogging.

      Actually.. why am I blaming the BBC? It made the front page here..

    4. Re:Suppression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it's websense doing it, who cares. I'm behind a websense filter right now. It sucks. They block the entire internet archive (except for websense.com), but they actually parse and filter google cache pages. They block privoxy, forcing me to see ads when I'm forced to use internet explorer. Then there's things that they should block but don't, and a ton of pages on 3d programming that they shouldn't block but do because these things count as "Games".
      At least they are very responsive when you suggest a change even if they say no. I probably shouldn't have called them fuckheads when I asked them to stop blocking the Internet Archive en toto.

    5. Re:Suppression by justforaday · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Is this really the case, are is it yet another attempt by corporations to subtly supress their employee's reading habits???

      Well, being an employee of a company that uses WebSense's filtering product, there is absolutely nothing subtle about it. Hell, at one point linux.slashdot.org was blocked due to being a freeware/shareware distribution point (along with getfirefox.com - still blocked)! Of course this all comes down to how the company has set it up. And nevermind that our braindead IT department blocks webmail as a major security vector, but then has all of us running as admin, with improperly secured share points on many of the machines (earlier today I noticed that anyone can mount the C drive of the main gov't affairs machine here)...Alright, enough of my ranting for now. IE vulnerabilities grumble grumble grumble...

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      I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
    6. Re:Suppression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I think that it's a subversive plot masterminded by the illuminati, drawing support and power from secret governments all over the world, designed to take over the world.

    7. Re:Suppression by wfberg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Websense is blocking too much and yet too little. Now, that's bad in all sorts of ways. If you're being blocked and think you shouldn't (blocking gay rights pages as porn etc.) you're being slandered basically. If you bought the product, it's giving you a false sense of security. That's all websense's doing.

      But in your case, unless you installed websense yourself, you're probably being forced by your employer into using it. That makes them the "fuckheads", not websense. If all companies would stop using websense, they'd go bankrupt, and the world would be a better place. So don't complain to websense, or other censorware vendors, complain to your fuckhead boss.

      --
      SCO employee? Check out the bounty
    8. Re:Suppression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems more like a case of the BBC trying to publish an article with a buzzword in it.

      No, it's a case of Websense spinning their findings to incorporate a buzzword, in order to get more attention from the media, and the BBC not having a clueful enough reporter/editor to de-spin it.

    9. Re:Suppression by jobugeek · · Score: 2, Informative
      Websense is like any other piece of enterprise software. It's only as good as the people configuring it. I've deployed it and it has its uses. I sat down with management and discussed what they was off-limits and what was deemed ok and what was grey area.

      Websense allows for a lot of configuration, but I imagine many companies just deploy it and leave it stock.

      --
      I'm not drunk, I just have a speech impediment. And a stomach virus. And an inner ear infection.
    10. Re:Suppression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't get me wrong, I think websense is a great product. It lets the bosses on the other side of the country feel happy. It keeps the goombas from playing online poker all day. But it doesn't stop me and I don't even really push my luck.
      All I'm saying is that it fails to deliver when it comes to stopping me from surfing sites I shouldn't at work.

    11. Re:Suppression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think your employer may just not update their db often; getfirefox.com worked for me.

    12. Re:Suppression by justforaday · · Score: 1

      Actually (sadly), I think it was added to the local list by someone here. There seems to be a very strong NBMS mentality here. Not to mention the MCSEs who don't have the slightest clue what they're doing...

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      I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
    13. Re:Suppression by bwindle2 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Actually, we block webmail because it *IS* a security vector; files that our lusers download from hotmail or yahoo's web mail system isn't checked for viruses/trojans before it enters the network (yes, we run AV software on each workstation, but blocking all exe's/etc at the MTA level is much safer). Our lusers could also use a webmail system for data theft.

      Besides, they are at work to work, not to email their friends from their personal email accounts.

    14. Re:Suppression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gotta love the self-righteous assholes wasting away their days on slashdot saying that their "lusers" are there to work, and not waste time, dammit!

    15. Re:Suppression by Reducer2001 · · Score: 1
      Besides, they are at work to work, not to email their friends from their personal email accounts.

      Or posting at Slashdot during working hours, right?

      --
      When you get to hell -- tell 'em Itchy sent ya!
    16. Re:Suppression by magefile · · Score: 1

      From where I am, getfirefox.com isn't blocked, and we're under WebSense. Granted, I know nothing about its configuration options (anyone have a link?), but I'm pretty sure we're using a dfeault setup.

    17. Re:Suppression by atriusofbricia · · Score: 1

      I just can't come up with what that means. What is NBMS?

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      I was raised on the command line, bitch

      "Nemo me impune lacesset"

    18. Re:Suppression by justforaday · · Score: 1

      NBMS = nothing but microsoft

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      I'll turn into a supernova and burn up everything. Well I'll turn into a black little hole and you'll turn into string.
    19. Re:Suppression by atriusofbricia · · Score: 1

      Duh, and you're right. hehehe

      --
      I was raised on the command line, bitch

      "Nemo me impune lacesset"

  7. Only 200? by Alibloke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This doesn't seem to be a great deal of sites, after RTFA I now know there are around 8 million blogs and only 200 are infected.

    Personally I'll take my chances........

    1. Re:Only 200? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You've confused the word "infected" with the phrase "worth reading"

    2. Re:Only 200? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose it depends on how highly they are indexed.

    3. Re:Only 200? by blogeasy · · Score: 1

      True. I think the author was more concerned with associating a highly popular buzzword like "blog" with the word "virus". When you put these two together in an article it draws lots of attention and it looks like he got the intended effect.

      --

      Browse the Information Directory
    4. Re:Only 200? by whitehatlurker · · Score: 1

      You've confused the number "200" with the phrase "not a single one"

      --
      .. paranoid crackpot leftover from the days of Amiga.
  8. Much Like Phishing by XFilesFMDS1013 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Only they use a fake webpage to install shit, rather then using a fake webpage to take your info. The ideas the same though, most people on the web (or at least those just on it for the blogs) don't really know the difference between what looks like a professional page, and what IS a professional page. More wide spread education about the dangers of what can be found on the internet really needs to happen.

    1. Re:Much Like Phishing by Slashcrap · · Score: 1

      The ideas the same though, most people on the web (or at least those just on it for the blogs) don't really know the difference between what looks like a professional page, and what IS a professional page.

      You mean there are people who got on the Internet just to read blogs?

      And yet, if you were to kill them, it would be you that got in trouble! The World's insane I tell you.

  9. So if the blog says.... by GPLDAN · · Score: 5, Funny

    If the blog you are reading says...
    "Today, I went with Billy and Johnny, and we went to the farm and saw a cow. It was a big cow! Download this program and it will show you how big the cow was!" ... you probably shouldn't download the code.

    If the blog purports to be from some p0rnster, and the blog says "download this cool active X control, it will let you see all these hot pix I took at the club last night"... you probably shouldn't install the control.


    Ok, I think I got it.

    1. Re:So if the blog says.... by XFilesFMDS1013 · · Score: 4, Funny

      But how are we supposed to view the hot pix that he took last night?

    2. Re:So if the blog says.... by croddy · · Score: 1
      If the blog you are reading says...

      okay. stop right there. why the fuck would i *read* a web log?

    3. Re:So if the blog says.... by Baldor · · Score: 1

      Hot pix of a cow? WOOT I need some of that action!

    4. Re:So if the blog says.... by DJCF · · Score: 1

      Erm, I don't know. Why would you? I find this one quite interesting though, oh, and this one too.

    5. Re:So if the blog says.... by croddy · · Score: 1

      i'm not sure you'll be able to grasp it (since you are a web-logger), but it's kind of like the difference between a congress and a dictator.

    6. Re:So if the blog says.... by DJCF · · Score: 1

      No, I don't get the analogy at all. Probably because I'm a stupid blogger, eh! What you may not be able to grasp is that I know my blog is not interesting to people who don't know me. It's not for them, or for you. It's for my real-world friends and family, some who live in other countries, to see how I am. Most of them keep blogs, and it's simply the easiest way to keep in touch. Nevertheeless, the word blog does encompass these and other, community-driven web-logs such as netcraft's news site, and, yes, even slashdot. Like it or not, blogs of all kinds have a very real and useful impact in our lives. (Your life too, or you wouldn't be reading /.!)

  10. .0025%? by mwkaufman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So there are 200 fake blogs among 8,000,000 that were drawn up with malicious code and this is a story? I'm sure there are far more websites out there that aren't blogs with malicious code. All it comes down is protecting your computer the way you prevent anything bad from happening, by not being stupid about it. 200 is a drop in the bucket when it comes to the blogging community.

    1. Re:.0025%? by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So there are 200 fake blogs among 8,000,000 that were drawn up with malicious code and this is a story?

      The story is that blogs are dangerous. Blogs are the tool of the devil, and they will install keyloggers, spy through your webcam, and solicit your children. Blogs are the tools of criminals and miscreants.

      Good people should stay away from blogs and instead obtain all of their entertainment and information from the large corporate media outlets.

    2. Re:.0025%? by StarCharter · · Score: 1

      Wait...is this one of those fake reports put out by the Feds, paid for by taxpayer dollars, that purport to be in our best interest? Sure sounds like it...

    3. Re:.0025%? by youknowmewell · · Score: 1
      Good people should stay away from blogs and instead obtain all of their entertainment and information from the large corporate media outlets.


      What about chat rooms? I hear you can talk to many well-informed and honest people in chatrooms. There is even intelligent debates going on right now in chat rooms across the globe!
  11. Social engineering seems to be the key by erick99 · · Score: 3, Informative
    "The success of these attacks relies upon a certain level of social engineering to persuade the individual to click on the link."

    The brighter criminals seem to understand that this well and more and more scams are less about clicking on something than it is about convincing someone to provide their SS#, banking info, etc.

    --
    http://www.busyweather.com/
    1. Re:Social engineering seems to be the key by erick99 · · Score: 1
      Let me try this again....

      "The success of these attacks relies upon a certain level of social engineering to persuade the individual to click on the link."

      The brighter criminals seem to understand this well and more and more scams are less about clicking on something than it is about convincing someone to provide their SS#, banking info, etc.

      --
      http://www.busyweather.com/
    2. Re:Social engineering seems to be the key by Flamsmark · · Score: 1

      in other words: there are now another 200 websites that want to trick you intto installing malicious software, or use loopholes in your browser to do the same. and this is news why? oh yes, it contains the word 'blog'. that makes it interesting. and new.

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  12. new methods, same protections by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from the article:

    "Users were urged to keep anti-virus and patches up to date, regularly scan machines with anti-spyware products and exercise caution when reading unsolicited messages sent via e-mail or instant messenger."

    in other words, "do all the things you should be doing anyway to prevent viruses/spyware/other bad things from being a problem". I wonder how many people out there don't actually do these things and why they don't. At this point, most users should be accustomed to this message.

    1. Re:new methods, same protections by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      At this point, most users should be accustomed to this message.

      And by now, anyone who hasn't followed this advice is jaded and probably doesn't even see this message anymore.

    2. Re:new methods, same protections by tuningd · · Score: 1

      Probably because most people think they have to pay for virus and spy ware protection. They don't know about AVG, spybot, etc. that are FREE

  13. What's the problem? by LegendOfLink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe the problem isn't that the fake blogs are carrying malicious code; rather that the browsers (coughIEcough) being used to surf the fake sites aren't secure enough.

    Malicious websites will always be around; however, if we try and educate the public about security, they'll be rendered useless.

    1. Re:What's the problem? by HomerJayS · · Score: 1
      if we try and educate the public about security,...

      Ah to be young an naive. <sigh>

      No amount of education will ever convince enough of the general Internet users to:

      stop executing malware of unknwown origins

      buying stuff from spammers

      The only way to keep people from doing stupid things is summary execution of said offenders to remove them from the gene pool. But, unfortunately, there are laws against that type of thing.

    2. Re:What's the problem? by LegendOfLink · · Score: 1

      The only way to keep people from doing stupid things is summary execution of said offenders to remove them from the gene pool. But, unfortunately, there are laws against that type of thing.

      Please tell me you're running for President, because you'd definitely get my vote.

  14. 'warning... by hostylocal · · Score: 1, Interesting

    there are sites on the internet that are _bad_!' well done. must have had some spare budget sitting around doing nothing. no, seriously - next you'll be telling us that google is watching us or those kind blokes in nigeria are lying to us too! sheesh. bloggers are getting it in the neck at the minute - americans want to censor blogs, even tho they haven't read one, people who blog about work get sacked and now they're remotely installing keglogging software onto pcs. where will it end?

    1. Re:'warning... by hostylocal · · Score: 0

      thought that there were a few to many g's in that last post. do like the sound of a 'keglogger' tho!

  15. Competition anyone? by BKuhl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let see... The mainstream news is reporting "Don't go read the blogs or your PC will crash and burn." Does anyone else find it curious that blogs are one of the more potent competitors the the mainstream news in recent time?
    They couldn't be trying to discredit the competition?

    1. Re:Competition anyone? by Threni · · Score: 1

      Bloggers aren't competing with `mainstream news` sources. They have nothing in common.

    2. Re:Competition anyone? by sellin'papes · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Interesting point. News media has been failing to report fair and balanced news in recent years. This has led to the masses of documentaries being released, because documentaries are free to probe and investigate the issues to their full extent (without media restrictions).

      It seems that blogs are another offshoot of the failure of mainstream media. The blog Baghdad Burning: http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/ provides insight into the Iraq war that inbedded journalists have missed.

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      This is my last post.
      [6th Estate]
    3. Re:Competition anyone? by cuzality · · Score: 1


      So why is it the MSM hates/is so afraid of the blogs? Anybody still remember the "guys in pajamas" remark by Jonathan Klein, then of CBS? Indicative of the way the industry fears Powerline, Instapundit, Kos, etc.

    4. Re:Competition anyone? by Threni · · Score: 1

      They probably hate them for the same reason I dislike them - most blogs are a waste of time. They're more fiction than news - and bad fiction at that. Blogs aren't a source of news - they're a natural extension of the `my first homepages` sites which once littered the web. You remember those. Photos of fat little nerds and their dumpy girlfriends, a photo of their cat and an cheesy animated `under construction` .gif that vanished along with their site when they were asked to pay their next months internet access. Sure, some of them are good, I guess, but the sort of people with something to say would have - indeed did - do so before the current trend for blogging took off.

      How would blogs replace news? I check out 6 or so news related websites every day (for the record, they are http://news.bbc.co.uk/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/ http://news.independent.co.uk/ url:http://news.google.com/news> http://www.reuters.com/newsChannel.jhtml?type=worl dNews http://slashdot.org/) in addition to following links mentioned in those stories, links from emails etc. I also check out the papers from time to time.

      How do I get close to that range and quality of information from looking at blog sites? Which bloggers have anything approaching the same reputation?

  16. Blogs or websites? by delymyth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I do have a blog, or at least people call it a blog.
    What I'm asking myself right now, reading this article is...
    "What's the difference between a blog and a website?"
    I mean, how could a proxy know it's a blog?
    It can't, unless you talk about blogs hosted on big blogger networks.
    But I'm not the only one having a blog on another hosting service, with my own domain and so on.
    The same could happen with "personal home pages", the problem is, as usual, people click on anything that seems interesting, without checking the website where they'll end.

    It's always a matter of Social Engineering, users have to be educated I think...

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    1. Re:Blogs or websites? by daveschroeder · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Because apparently everything is a blog now, when it's convenient.

      For example, we used to call Think Secret and AppleInsider "news web sites" or "mac rumor sites". Apparently they're now "blogs".

      And yes, I realize that a "blog" IS a "web site", but my point is, aren't we going a little overboard on calling things "blogs"? Think Secret only started being a blog when people wanted to trumpet the cause of "blogger's rights" and thought it was some huge case about free speech and whether bloggers can be considered "journalists".

      Unfortunately, it backfired, because the judge acknowledged that bloggers CAN INDEED be journalists, and they also have the same free speech and press rights as anyone else. But they also can't obtain information in violation of existing statutes.

    2. Re:Blogs or websites? by cerberusss · · Score: 1
      people click on anything that seems interesting, without checking the website where they'll end [....] users have to be educated

      Are you seriously saying that people should check where the hyperlink leads to?

      And you seriously think people will do this when you tell them?

      HahahahaAHAAH no really HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      I'm sorry but this is modded insightful? I have modpoints to put it on overrated, but this is just so funny. Well, not really.

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    3. Re:Blogs or websites? by arodland · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's just a bunch of gobbledygook. "Storage lockers"? Um, yeah. Blogs having some special property that renders virus scanners inoperative? Not last time I checked. Really, I don't see any sense in the whole thing besides "hey guys, there's some adware and stuff on blogs now." "hey, thanks for the heads-up, I guess that had to happen eventually."

    4. Re:Blogs or websites? by delymyth · · Score: 1

      The fact that people click without thinking isn't a good reason for saying that something is "dangerous".
      I mean, if someone sends a linux user (at home, with root logged in, of course) a shell script with a simple "rm -rf /" and the user executes it, is the "rm" command dangerous? or are shell scripts dangerous?

      I'll never defend people blind-clicking on every single "interesting" attachment or link they receive, sorry.
      Internet Culture is too low nowadays, and this is in my opinion the first cause for viruses spreading so fast.

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    5. Re:Blogs or websites? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AFAICT, ThinkSecret themselves never called themselves a blog - they said they were an industry news periodical. The "bloggers' rights" stuff was all Dan Gilmore and other self-important poopheads from the blogsphere.

    6. Re:Blogs or websites? by delymyth · · Score: 1

      I know plenty of smart people who have had spyware installed by websites.

      And I know plenty of people who click on "yes" on every single dialog they see.

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    7. Re:Blogs or websites? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gillmor and friends will call anything a blog that suits their purposes. They will also ignore anything that really is a blog that isn't ideologically aligned, eg Indymedia.

    8. Re:Blogs or websites? by Flamsmark · · Score: 1

      a blog is pretty much any site with dated entries. and a journalist is pretty much anyone who attempts to report or comment on things that happen. that's pretty much all there is to it.

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  17. huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    how do these blogs get outside the browser sandbox?

    publishing this sort of rubbish should be punished.

  18. Linux still not ready for the desktop by deacon · · Score: 3, Funny
    This is another example of the lack of compatability that is preventing Linux from being successful on the Desktop.

    Lacking the broad compatibility of Windows to run any executable at any time without pestering the user, Linux will slowly fall out of favor as the more "user friendly" Windows proves yet again that everthing "just works".

    Developers must get their act together to make Firefox compatible with these soon -to-be mainstream methods of allowing users to update their PCs without worrying their little heads over such arcane details as "what does this application do?"

    Until Linux can match Windows in this kind of ease of use, I'll have to stop using FC3 and Firefox and upgrade to XP and IE.

    Note to mods: This post contains sarcasm. Do not eat.

    1. Re:Linux still not ready for the desktop by fox8118 · · Score: 1

      Linux isn't too far behind thanks to projects like Wine.

    2. Re:Linux still not ready for the desktop by matt+me · · Score: 2, Funny

      ha ha, i'm too in firefox on fedora core 3, and yes, it's tough.

      me, i tried everything to get infected. i tried an ActiveX plugin for Firefox, i tried running IE through Wine - still nothing very nasty.

      in the end i wrote a perl script to open random double click ads in lynx.

  19. Who really bothers reading that crap anyways? by zwilliams07 · · Score: 1

    "Today my frapachino wasn't frappy enough. Click this suspicious link to an .exe for more!"

    1. Re:Who really bothers reading that crap anyways? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I had the same exact problem this morning! (you forgot to include the link by the way).

    2. Re:Who really bothers reading that crap anyways? by zwilliams07 · · Score: 1
  20. Glass houses by guet · · Score: 5, Funny

    yeah, I know, I read this site because it's written by humble yet well-informed and interesting people, who are careful not to make generalisations.

    1. Re:Glass houses by wootest · · Score: 4, Funny

      I personally NEVER make generalisations, and I'm convinced everyone else here doesn't either.

    2. Re:Glass houses by youknowmewell · · Score: 1

      I'm a thousand times as humble as the people here.

  21. Ban them!!!1 by pwroberts · · Score: 2, Funny

    QUICK!! Ban blogs!!

    Oh wait, the majority of the US public already want to :-).

  22. Increased threat? by baadger · · Score: 1

    Is this story trying to suggest blogs are somehow easier to drive traffic towards and if so these 200 blogs pose an increased threat?

    If not, why the hell is this news worthy.

    1. Re:Increased threat? by baadger · · Score: 1

      ...and I might add, before someone says RTFA that getting round the filters isn't really an excuse
      Why are blogs any different to normal pages in the filtering respect?

  23. What is the import of this? by wwvuillemot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am a bit baffled why this is news. How is this any different than any other attack via a web page? And how is a weblog any different than a vanilla web page? (That was meant an ironic, rhetorical question for those itching to answer that.) The techniques used to phish and to infiltrate a target machine via web pages are identical for weblogs ... since weblogs == web pages. (And yes, I do appreciate there are persons in the world who do not understand the two are the same.)

    How on earth can one conclude that blocking people from all weblogs will protect them? Unless you also block them from all web pages to boot, ie the entire world wide web.

    Websense warned that viruses hosted on weblogs might be a danger because they get round the filtering systems many firms have created to ensure malicious programs do not reach employees.

    Can someone confirm this? Are you telling me companies actively track if a site is a weblog ... and if so lower the security precautions for it?

    I am a bit disappointed that BBC reported this article. Talk about FUD.

  24. Loading it with viral code? by Ulrich+Hobelmann · · Score: 1

    Give me a break. I direct my browser to an HTML page and that page is loaded with keylogging software or viral code???

    How is that supposed to work? Is the viral code a Javascript application?

    Maybe they just should have written that some .exe file wants to install on Windows, just like in the 0900 dialer days...

    1. Re:Loading it with viral code? by The_Bagman · · Score: 1

      The article is poorly written, but I believe it is referring to drive-by-download code. This is typically malicious JavaScript and/or ActiveX code that exploits a flaw in IE's security model to install and run executable code on your computer as a side-effect of your visiting the Web page, and often without your knowledge or consent.

      The blog angle is a bit of a red herring. Drive-by download attacks can happen on any web page, not just blog web pages. There are two phenomena going on with respect to blogs these days: attackers are uploading attack code to legitimate blogs as comments, and attackers are setting up bogus blogs of their own to deliver attack code.

  25. Blogs aren't really the problem... by IdJit · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The article says it all...

    "Users were urged to keep anti-virus and patches up to date, regularly scan machines with anti-spyware products and exercise caution when reading unsolicited messages sent via e-mail or instant messenger."

    C'mon, people...This stuff should be habit by now.

  26. Fixing the Summary by RailGunner · · Score: 1
    "The BBC has a story which indicates that filtering firm Websense believes at least 200 fake blogs are in existence which have malicious code that could infect your PC, provided you run Microsoft Windows and Internet Explorer. Windows users utilizing Mozilla, Firefox, Opera, or other browsers are not affected nor are the users of Linux, BSD, BeOS (both of them), and any version of MacOS."

    Why is anyone still using Internet Explorer? Even if the only browser your bank's site supports is IE, don't use it. Just drive down to the bank. Besides, some of the tellers are attractive women.

    1. Re:Fixing the Summary by hughk · · Score: 1

      I work at a bank. Guess which is the only browser allowed on the production network!

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    2. Re:Fixing the Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What Bank? More importantly, do you have attractive women as tellers there?

    3. Re:Fixing the Summary by fat+man+with+a+monke · · Score: 1

      Besides, some of the tellers are attractive women.

      good luck talking to them.

    4. Re:Fixing the Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      good luck talking to them.
      Eh? They're actually pretty easy to talk to. The attractive ones, anyway. All the ugly ones get promoted and yell at me when I'm overdrawn.
  27. link me by matt+me · · Score: 1

    lmao this is great. only blogs can hold malicous code. they are dangerous and must be banned. IE is safe and not to blame.

    can we plz get a link?

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  29. Shouldn't this be by Lobo_Louie · · Score: 0

    Shouldn't this be:
    "The BBC has a story which indicates that filtering firm Websense believes at least 200 fake blogs are in existence which have malicious code that could infect Windoze pc.

  30. CowPix by Safety+Cap · · Score: 1

    Only if they have some shots of the sweet, sweet udder !!!!oneone

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  31. ashamed of firefox? by matt+me · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    am i the only one now ashamed to be a firefox user? when i first got firebird (0.7) it was a respectable piece of open-source software to use.

    now, (i posted on spreadfirefox about wikipedia), most firefox users don't even know what a wiki is.

    i'm in gnome in fc3, and want konqueror back. you know you're in a truely geeky browser when the find function and handle regex.

  32. Re: appologies to Jeff Foxworthy by HomerJayS · · Score: 2, Funny
    If the blog purports to be from some p0rnster, and the blog says "download this cool active X control, it will let you see all these hot pix I took at the club last night"... and you install the control...

    You might be a dumbarse!

  33. Re:Bush supports freedom, Slashdot silent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to like George Bush, but seeing you in action has made me a Democrat. It's like the man who turns all his girlfriends lesbian. Well, except I am a man and without the cunniligus.

  34. Forget the PCs by 4of12 · · Score: 1

    It's the people that are getting mentally infected by blogs.

    Blogs are enabling rare fringe people to come together in communities unlike ever before.

    Society is becoming different because of these of communities that reinforce and develop their special culture using blogs.

    Expect many failures of these communities, but also expect a few to produce flourishing growth of ideas that might spread into the non-blogging world.

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    1. Re:Forget the PCs by bayvult · · Score: 1
      .... Expect many failures of these communities, but also expect a few to produce flourishing growth of ideas that might spread into the non-blogging world.

      How? Will we walk around with pictures of our cats stapled to our foreheads? Or three foot long paper representations of blogrolls trailing behind us?

      You may be right about reinforcement though, but probably not in the way you intended...

      Blogs permit people to engage free speech without the usual consequences, to say anything they want without getting the punch on the nose they would get in the Real World.

      If this behaviour spreads beyond the pyjamahadeen, we'll see two things. More people walking about with bandaged noses, or many, many disappointed people walking the streets, wondering why they have no friends.

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      "Society changes technology, not the other way round" - Linus Torvalds

  35. Anything to Make the Public Think Blogs Are Bad by Horrortaxi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Websebse making a big deal about blog bugs should be taken about as seriously as Symantec making a big deal about cell phone or Macintosh viruses. At best it's self-serving.

    But there's something bigger that really bugs me: Websense is part of that big conglomeration known as "them" or "they". Sometimes it's hard to tell where the government stops and "they" start. The American media is another big member of "them" and blogs are a threat. So "they" have to do whatever they can to steer people away from them--make it unclear what exactly a blog is, tell people their computers will get viruses if they read blogs, censor their content--we'll hear more in the next few months I'm sure.

    Those in control are just trying to draw devil horns on blogs so that they can stay in control.

  36. Thats why content filtering is such a problem by inherent+monkey+love · · Score: 0

    Companies like websense and s4f (a direct competitor to websense) keep big databases of websites which fit into different categories (porn, crude/tasteless, gambling, sports, personal websites) and their products are supposed to filter based on which categories the user (or sysadmin) wants to disallow. It's a big game of whack-a-mole, however, because new sites spring up all the time, AND as you pointed out, blogs are just as prevelant on privately owned personal domains as they are on big blog-servers.

  37. And this is news. . . . how? by inherent+monkey+love · · Score: 0

    Malware is spread via websites. We've heard this for years. Why is it now suddenly news that some rogue blogs are being used for this purpose? Sounds like a cheap play for media attention from a company who does nominally effective content filtering.

  38. Scare tactics by JohnnyLocust · · Score: 1

    This whole article wreaks of bullsh*t and scare tactics. The entire internet is capable of playing host to nefarious code. A few hundred blogs out of millions? This s just weak reporting.

  39. Stop using credit cards to shop online by ravee · · Score: 1

    The best way to deal with this kind of theft is by refusing to shop online using ones credit cards, how much ever tempted you may be. Infact after the globalization of market, you can get every thing in your city itself which might be just a short drive by car or walking distance.
    2) Do not store any sensitive data like your personal information and bank account details on the computer if possible. And if you do store it, make sure it is stored in encrypted form. There are numerous encryption softwares available like "gnupg" and "PGP".
    3) Use a stable modern operating system like linux or freebsd which is secure even the first time you log on. And as an added precaution make sure that your personal details are in a user account other than the one you use for internet browsing.
    4) Do not click on a link or a button before reading and understanding what it states.
    5) Do not visit p0rn sites as a rule using your computer. If you are in the mood, borrow a cd from the video library in your neighbourhood ;).
    6) Make it a habit to change your passwords to important accounts on the web on a constant basis - maybe once a week.

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  40. Websense Filters by jascat · · Score: 1
    I know it's a common cry around here, but this is FUD to get people to buy into Websense. Since the USAF has moved over to using Secure Computing's SmartFilter embedded into the Bluecoat proxy, Websense is losing business.

    Oh know, 200 sites! Buy our software and we'll keep you safe!

    1. Re:Websense Filters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The BBC loves FUD. They are not technically competent or able to sift FUD from stories of worth. Apparently neither are slashdot editors.

      It's old news as well.

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  42. I'm immune! by Reignking · · Score: 0

    Since I don't read blogs, I guess that I am innoculated against this "threat"...

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  43. Complete and utter hype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blogs are the latest Internet hype-fad, therefore a blog with drive-by spyware is news while every other site with it isn't.

  44. I see dumb people by Virtual+Karma · · Score: 1

    With services like blogger and live journal an average joe can set up a blog in under 3 minutes. Most blogs these days (not all but most) are set up by people with no sense of publishing online content. This is bearable. That are what blogs are for. Putting your thoughts out there without having to be a professional. Now a even bigger section of people are new to blogging and super dumb. They are all pumped up. They jump from blog to blog thinking that all blogs are setup by stupid people. Now some smart ass people disguise harmful code as innnocent blogs. Imagine you go to a blog and see "Hi, I'm the innocent abercrombie chick. If you want to see my photos from last night's party, click here. And yes, i dont know why but you might see some message like 'ActiveX' blocked. Please click on 'allow activex on this site'" Isn't it scary? And an increasing number of websites are putting out web forms like "please enter your yahoo id and password. We will make sure that an invitation is sent out to all your friends." Forget the average Joe, I know real software engineers who have entered their yahoo id and password.

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  46. Re:Stop using credit cards to shop online by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    3) Use a stable modern operating system like linux or freebsd which is secure even the first time you log on

    Thats not always true. The Linux distro you install may contain old versions of software, enabled by default, that are vulnerable to buffer overflow exploits.

  47. Almost by CBob · · Score: 1

    Fell for it, then I read the one keyword "Websense".

    We've got the typical windoze shop issues here & they love websense. It "protects" them while they run w/local admin rights & hand out root passwords to the Aix boxes to vendors.

    Websense has a history of scare tactics in the past & doubtlessly will continue. It also generates big numbers to beat the peons down with. Every banner & link on a page seems to count as a "webpage" to some websense/"security" admins.

    1. Re:Almost by ElyseMyers · · Score: 1

      My experience was exactly the same as yours -- i fell for it, then i read websense. will someone please do society a favor and shut that meaningless website down. seriously.

    2. Re:Almost by Flamsmark · · Score: 1

      i see two 'websense' [connotation: knight in shining armour] 'blog' [connotation: tool of evil]

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  48. What about blog COMMENTS? by britneys+9th+husband · · Score: 1

    In the past, I have noticed people such as the GNAA posting comments into blogs. These comments will contain Javascript that will do something nasty, normally redirecting the page to goat.cx or Last Measure. This makes it easy to disguise goat.cx links in Slashdot comments or, occasionally, redirect a blog linked to in a +5 comment or even the story itself to goat.cx.

    So my question is, could this sort of Javascript exploit be used to spread trojans/malware via other people's blogs using the comments section?

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  49. Suuure, spam in blogs by merc · · Score: 1

    Let me see if I've got this right: there's supposed to be this huge spam problem in weblogs? That's the most ridiculous thing I ever..^C

    MAKE YOUR WIFE HAPPY TONIGHT, GO TO www.makemydingdongbigger.com

    tiger pickle scruffy bubble hiccup snort gronk

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    1. Re:Suuure, spam in blogs by jbbrwcky · · Score: 1

      lol

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  50. Sorry, it's been Websensed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd love to check out the page, but it's been Websensed as:

    "Your organization's Internet use policy restricts access to this web page at this time.
    Reason:
    The Websense category "Tasteless" is filtered."

  51. The real solution... by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 1
    The answer to all the virus, spyware, spam, scamware, popups, and other malicious code, is not to try and block this protocol and then realize it can come in through that protocol; then block that protocol and realize that doing so is extremely complicated and creates other networks, while the stuff gets in through floppy disks, and then block those and realize it gets in through certain websites, and then, and then, and then...

    The solution is to use all those wonderful features that modern operating systems have, such as permissions (old school) and ACLs (shiny and new) to prevent the ability of malicious code to function in the first place.

  52. I think I have seen this in action. by raidient · · Score: 1, Funny

    Groklaw seems to cause some of its posters to launch virulent attacks against other web sites.

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  53. Re:what is this "blog" thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay, just this once...

    If you've never read a blog, how do you know that 99% of them are lame? You must be psychic. I'll let Miss Cleo know you're available for work.

    On the net since 1990? What does that prove? That you're not only close-minded and ignorant, but you've been so for a long time?

    So Yahoo! and blogs have not caught on with you? Hopefully spelling and grammar will soon, at least.

  54. That's silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    How is it even possible for a website infect your computer? From a client's point of view, a website is just data. Every first grader knows that you don't write a program to depend on sane input.

    It sounds like somebody is confused between web browsers and program loaders.

    Oh, MSIE... gee, how could I have ever guessed?

  55. Tired of Spyware auto-installs? by lilrowdy18 · · Score: 0

    In IE, you can turn off Install on Demand

    Go to Tools-Internet Options-Advance tab

    Make sure both Install on Demand boxes are not checked.

    Now IE will prompt you instead of doing an auto-install. If you see soemthing suspicious than dont install it.

  56. Internet Explorer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's simple. Internet Explorer is chock-full of exploits for two reasons. One is the technical reason. It attempts to be "all things for all people," incorporating extra technologies that ought to be installed separately at users' discretion. That concept is Microsoft's claim to fame -- and it's made them a wealthy corporation.

    The more important reason is, however, that Internet Explorer is the most widely-used browser on the planet -- and it is used by an overwhelming segment of those new to the Internet AND on an overwhelming segment of public and/or workplace terminals. Even if its security on a technical level was precisely equal to Firefox, Opera, or [insert your pet browser here], more exploits would exist for it due to the greater amount of pressure being exerted upon it by those interested in doing damage. If Firefox were the primary browser on public terminals, you can bet someone would start specializing malware to harvest account data from it -- but Firefox is not the primary browser in use on public workstations.

    Microsoft has done this calculus, or something much like it. Right now, their browser boasts "compatibility" with all websites. That holds appeal to people who don't build their own computers. On the other hand, Opera and Firefox will load...most websites. Mostly. And, you can load most of the missing content at will if you know what you're doing. Most, and if. That is not attractive to people who can't tell C++ from machine code. If Microsoft secured IE, their product would have to compete somewhat directly with others, as they would have to cut back on "features;" however, as it is, they have a prima facie advantage to the neophyte in that their browser will require less intervention to function fully.

    Solution? Use what suits you best. Use a second-tier browser, and enjoy the free ride you recieve at the expense of the crowd using the more common technology -- just remember to not check your bank balance on public terminals. Or, if you don't check your bank account or fill taxes online (neither one is a good idea regardless of which browser you use -- yours is not the only computer between you and the bank), use IE and get your kids/neighbor/dog to reformat your drive every few months to clean out the garbage. There are worse ideas...

  57. Ooooh. Be scared of Blogs, everybody. . ! by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    Just another attempt by mainstream news to stop people from looking beyond the defined parameters of the corporate reality. There will probably be a time when if you ask a kid about blogs, s/he'll automatically respond with, "They're bad! What's a blog?"

    Fear=control.

    Same bullshit, different day.


    -FL

  58. Whats the point? by darw!n · · Score: 1

    If I wanted to read pointless stories posted on fark (sever days ago mind you) I would just go there. Why is this news?

  59. It is by Projectlinux · · Score: 1

    As long as the ads are not annoying I will not block them. When they distract me or take away from the site there gone!

  60. Re:Stop using credit cards to shop online by ravee · · Score: 1

    When I say, linux is secure the first time you log on, I mean it w.r.t a person using it as a desktop OS and not as a server. While windows OS, once you install the OS , it installs with default security of "everyone having access " to all the folders. It is the users prerogative and duty to implement the security. Which is not the case with linux/unix. That is what I meant.

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  61. Re:Firey death to the intruders! by Thomas+Shaddack · · Score: 1

    Two words: ActiveX exploit.
    I also met attempts to install an .xpi file for Mozilla, but Mozilla asks by default.