How do you support your claim that audio/video is standardized on firewire? The DV cam is the only bit that is very prevalent. These things can change with 1 generation of purchasing.
You haven't supported your claim about the protocol speed either. Show me the numbers.
Here's an article to back up my claims that the speeds are similar. This is not a conclusive comparison, but it will show that USB 2.0 is comparible in speed to Firewire IN PRACTICE.
The USB PCI controler cards can directly access memory, like many other PCI cards The PCI interface in practice (not theory) is a bottle neck here. USB2/Firewire on the motherboard chipset is always going to be faster than on the PCI bus.
Where did the USB is processor bound rumor come from?
If I'm wrong, will somebody please supply a source so I can correct myself?
A good place for this would be hard drives for audio/ video equipment. Start going after the places that firewire has been, only on a cheaper consumer level.
The sequence analysis of mitochondrial DNA is *not* a valid way to define a species. Rather, it is a way to define lineage. I doubt that you would consider several different lineages of Europeans to be separate species!
Agreed. I figured I'd just show one way you can show that populations have been separated.
When I read the article I wondered how they were going to find (from DNA) which elephants could mate with each other. They offered no method in the article.
If you want to take a year of to travel (or some other good idea in mind), do it.
If there is a goal, I think it'll be easier for you to go back to college when it is done.
I thought that I'd like a break to travel somewhere in my college career. It never happened.
In the summers I worked to pay for school. The problem was that when I had the opportunity (between my BS and my MS) I had built up a student loan debt, and I had no cash to travel with.
When I graduated from college, I had to take a job to start paying off the debt.
If you have a goal in mind, take the time off. If you just want time off, go to school. The first year is gen-ed junk anyway.
I haven't looked at the article, but if they are looking to see how distant 2 sets of elephants are genetically, they are probably using mitochondrial DNA.
Since mitochondrial DNA is passed from mother to offspring, it should (in theory) stay the same, never changing. However, mutations occur, so you can tell the genetic distance by the differences in mitochondrial DNA by counting differences in the mitochondria (assuming some of them have common females).
The limit, of course, depends on the odds you count for mutation in this dna. None of this is purely exact. It's all statistically determinable.
There's talk of how most of those of European decent are related to 1 of 7 women in their past. It's documented in a book called "The Seven Daughters of Eve".
Really interesting stuff.
IANA Biologist, but my girlfriend just got her MS in Bioinformatics!:)
On the other hand, there are 1 chip usb-client solutions. Point me at a 1 chip firewire solution and I'll believe that firewire could do it cheaper and better.
While I can see your point. I think that there are many that read that article that do not think about it as clearly as you do.
Since the way words are presented to us color how we react, I think that this is a type of spin, talking about business where it dosen't apply.
I call I as I see it. By spinning the word "bankrupt" they can associate linux with a "bad" term. On top of that, he associates it as being there since the beginning.
Media dosen't control what we think, but it does control what we think about.
I do not think pointing this out is an immature act. If it is, I hope I never develope maturity as it sound like death.
"Society - A group of humans broadly distinguished from other groups by mutual interests, participation in characteristic relationships, shared institutions, and a common culture."
Linux users would be a society, having their muterial interests be Linux.
They have to turn everything in life into a business.
"In a way they started out bankrupt"
You have to have debt in order to go bankrupt. A social movement is not a busness. There is no way it could have been bankrupt. Stop trying to spin business terms where they don't apply.
Microsoft probably started more bankrupt than Linux. They were a business, and they probably had alot of debt. This is how most businesses start out. You get a little funding to start (if you can't pay it back.. you're bankrupt).
They didn't say you should call it the GNU/Liunx kernel. They asked you to call the operating sytem "GNU/Linux" specifically asking that you recognize the Linux Kernel's name.
They ask people to do something, you say "no, I won't". That is fine.
Why then do people feel the need to say "Hey.. don't call it that" very loudly? Why not just refuse to participate and be done with it?
You're being as loud and annoying as the FSF, from this perspective. It's like responding to spam on a mailing list. If you don't like it, just let it die.
No one ever said they were going to take their toys and go home. Actually they said just the opposite, that they would not act to prevent people from just calling it "linux". They are just promoting the name "GNU/Linux".
The question is, why does this get people so riled up?
Do you use gnu echo? ls? Are you going to stop in protest of calling it "GNU/Linux"?
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I'm pretty sure you are wrong.
I'm pretty sure interrupts are part of USB.
Try doing a grep for "interrupt" in the "drivers/usb" directory of the linux source.
Can you cite your claim?
You are full of FUD.
How do you support your claim that audio/video is standardized on firewire? The DV cam is the only bit that is very prevalent. These things can change with 1 generation of purchasing.
You haven't supported your claim about the protocol speed either. Show me the numbers.
It already meets it, and because there aren't incumbering patents, it is cheaper to implement.
Here's an article to back up my claims that the speeds are similar. This is not a conclusive comparison, but it will show that USB 2.0 is comparible in speed to Firewire IN PRACTICE.
Where did this rumor come from?
The USB PCI controler cards can directly access memory, like many other PCI cards
The PCI interface in practice (not theory) is a bottle neck here. USB2/Firewire on the motherboard chipset is always going to be faster than on the PCI bus.
Where did the USB is processor bound rumor come from?
If I'm wrong, will somebody please supply a source so I can correct myself?
A good place for this would be hard drives for audio/
video equipment. Start going after the places that firewire has been, only on a cheaper consumer level.
The sequence analysis of mitochondrial DNA is *not* a valid way to define a species. Rather, it is a way to define lineage. I doubt that you would consider several different lineages of Europeans to be separate species!
Agreed. I figured I'd just show one way you can show that populations have been separated.
When I read the article I wondered how they were going to find (from DNA) which elephants could mate with each other. They offered no method in the article.
You know the answer?
If you want to take a year of to travel (or some other good idea in mind), do it.
If there is a goal, I think it'll be easier for you to go back to college when it is done.
I thought that I'd like a break to travel somewhere in my college career. It never happened.
In the summers I worked to pay for school.
The problem was that when I had the opportunity (between my BS and my MS) I had built up a student loan debt, and I had no cash to travel with.
When I graduated from college, I had to take a job to start paying off the debt.
If you have a goal in mind, take the time off. If you just want time off, go to school. The first year is gen-ed junk anyway.
Good luck figuring it all out.
I haven't looked at the article, but if they are looking to see how distant 2 sets of elephants are genetically, they are probably using mitochondrial DNA.
:)
Since mitochondrial DNA is passed from mother to offspring, it should (in theory) stay the same, never changing. However, mutations occur, so you can tell the genetic distance by the differences in mitochondrial DNA by counting differences in the mitochondria (assuming some of them have common females).
The limit, of course, depends on the odds you count for mutation in this dna. None of this is purely exact. It's all statistically determinable.
There's talk of how most of those of European decent are related to 1 of 7 women in their past.
It's documented in a book called "The Seven Daughters of Eve".
Really interesting stuff.
IANA Biologist, but my girlfriend just got her MS in Bioinformatics!
On the other hand, there are 1 chip usb-client solutions. Point me at a 1 chip firewire solution and I'll believe that firewire could do it cheaper and better.
The engineering would be cheaper for usb2.
It's not been my experience
Throw in filezilla
These are all theoretical numbers, try it out and measure it.
Are you sure that you aren't just hitting a bottleneck in a USB2 device running connected to a PCI slot? (PCI is the bottleneck)
USB 2.0 could also be used.
I think it would be cheaper.
While I can see your point. I think that there are many that read that article that do not think about it as clearly as you do.
Since the way words are presented to us color how we react, I think that this is a type of spin, talking about business where it dosen't apply.
I call I as I see it. By spinning the word "bankrupt" they can associate linux with a "bad" term. On top of that, he associates it as being there since the beginning.
Media dosen't control what we think, but it does control what we think about.
I do not think pointing this out is an immature act. If it is, I hope I never develope maturity as it sound like death.
I'm arguing that even then it is a stretch.
Otherwise we could say:
In a way, we all started out bankrupt.
In a way, the universe started out bankrupt.
I'm saying that since there was no debt, there was no "being bankrupt", not even in a way.
From dictionary.com:
"Society - A group of humans broadly distinguished from other groups by mutual interests, participation in characteristic relationships, shared institutions, and a common culture."
Linux users would be a society, having their muterial interests be Linux.
He requires it if you want HIM to cooperate with you.
That's fine. It's his choice for his actions.
If you feel that his pushing this is wrong, why act in the same "wrong" manner?
If you don't think it is wrong, what are you complaining about?
These people crack me up.
They have to turn everything in life into a business.
"In a way they started out bankrupt"
You have to have debt in order to go bankrupt.
A social movement is not a busness. There is no way it could have been bankrupt. Stop trying to spin business terms where they don't apply.
Microsoft probably started more bankrupt than Linux. They were a business, and they probably had alot of debt. This is how most businesses start out. You get a little funding to start (if you can't pay it back.. you're bankrupt).
They didn't say you should call it the GNU/Liunx kernel. They asked you to call the operating sytem "GNU/Linux" specifically asking that you recognize the Linux Kernel's name.
They ask people to do something, you say "no, I won't". That is fine.
Why then do people feel the need to say "Hey.. don't call it that" very loudly? Why not just refuse to participate and be done with it?
You're being as loud and annoying as the FSF, from this perspective. It's like responding to spam on a mailing list. If you don't like it, just let it die.
No one ever said they were going to take their toys and go home. Actually they said just the opposite, that they would not act to prevent people from just calling it "linux". They are just promoting the name "GNU/Linux".
The question is, why does this get people so riled up?
Do you use gnu echo? ls?
Are you going to stop in protest of calling it "GNU/Linux"?
Ah found one.. here's a URL/link:
http://www.reelradio.com/wc/index.html#chicken